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Who is we? if We control the oil then why are we paying $2.61/gallon for gas? We is a group of corporations and kingdoms none of whom are beholden to the American people.

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"....why are we paying $2.61/gallon for gas...."

POSTED BY HATTER5183 AT 03:07 PM | 0 COMMENTS |: Because it is a product sold on the global market.

#1 | Posted by MSgt at 2019-10-18 03:48 PM | Reply

We wish we were paying that price in Taxifornia.

#2 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-10-18 03:49 PM | Reply

I paid that today.
Should have gone to the Rez and beat NY out of the tax but I got busy.

#3 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2019-10-18 03:50 PM | Reply

I don't pay someone else to get things I control. If I have to pay someone else then I do not control it. They do.

#4 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2019-10-18 04:14 PM | Reply

"Who is we? if We control the oil then why are we paying $2.61/gallon for gas? "

Taxes.

I'm not paying anything near that high. At my favorite and almost closest watering hole, it was selling at $2.17 today. It can be had for as low as $2.06 elsewhere here in San Antonio.

www.kens5.com

#5 | Posted by goatman at 2019-10-18 04:20 PM | Reply

"Who is we? if We control the oil then why are we paying $2.61/gallon for gas? "
Taxes.

Classic bait and switch.
We control the taxes, that's why we pay the taxes.
We don't control the oil, that's why we buy it from private-sector companies... after they extract it, refine it, and turn it into gasoline.

"We is a group of corporations and kingdoms none of whom are beholden to the American people."

Thanks, Capitalism!

#6 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-10-18 04:39 PM | Reply

"Thanks, Capitalism!

POSTED BY SNOOFY AT 2019-10-18 04:39 PM "

If it was a capitalistic thing, there wouldn't be a $2 difference in gas between Texas and California. That difference is due to a government thing. If you left it to unfettered capitalism, prices would be comparable.

#7 | Posted by goatman at 2019-10-18 04:45 PM | Reply

"If it was a capitalistic thing, there wouldn't be a $2 difference in gas between Texas and California."

Taxes are not a capitalistic thing.

#8 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-10-18 05:15 PM | Reply

"We is a group of corporations and kingdoms none of whom are beholden to the American people."

Thanks, Capitalism!

#9 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-10-18 05:15 PM | Reply

""If it was a capitalistic thing, there wouldn't be a $2 difference in gas between Texas and California.
POSTED BY GOATMAN

Taxes are not a capitalistic thing.
#8 | POSTED BY SNOOFY"

I know. That's what I said.

#10 | Posted by goatman at 2019-10-18 05:18 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

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California Gas Prices Hit 5-Year High, Are Nearly $1.50 Above the National Average

Thanks, Moonbeamers!

#11 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-10-18 05:20 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#11 you can always leave

#12 | Posted by jpw at 2019-10-18 05:30 PM | Reply

We wish we were paying that price in Taxifornia.
#2 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN

Raise the tax and spend it on the Train.

Criticism hounds Gov. Gavin Newsom over his plans for California gas tax dollars
www.latimes.com

#13 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-10-18 06:17 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

You should move, Nulli

#14 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2019-10-18 06:21 PM | Reply

#11 you can always leave
#12 | POSTED BY JPW

This is the best you have? This is rookie league stuff.

You leave until you can think of a better retort!

#15 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-10-18 06:21 PM | Reply

You should move, Nulli
#14 | POSTED BY CHIEFTUTMOSES

NEWSWORTHY: ChiefTutMoses is a JPW Bot.

#16 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-10-18 06:23 PM | Reply

--You should move, Nulli

Progressive celebrities who promise to move to Canada every 4 years if the Republican candidate is elected should move first. Then I'll think about it.

#17 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-10-18 06:28 PM | Reply

Do you realize how much more gas costs in Canada, Nullifidian?

You'll love it!

#18 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-10-18 06:32 PM | Reply

"Do you realize how much more gas costs in Canada, Nullifidian?
You'll love it!

#18 | POSTED BY SNOOFY "

Do you know how much less it costs in Texas? Even more lovable!

#19 | Posted by goatman at 2019-10-18 06:41 PM | Reply

No, he'd hate that. Nothing to complain about.

#20 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-10-18 07:01 PM | Reply

Snoofy leave work early.
Snoofy log into Drudge on bus ride home.
Snoofy make attempt at funny comment.
Snoofy go back to sleep now.

JPW be more like Snoofy ....

#21 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-10-18 07:08 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

"#21 | POSTED BY ANDREAMACKRIS"

That was already over the top funny before the last line. But the last line made me literally LOL

#22 | Posted by goatman at 2019-10-18 07:22 PM | Reply

"If you left it to unfettered capitalism, prices would be comparable."

True, and my son would have asthma, and be sheltering indoors a lot of the summer.

It's the type of fuel mix in CA, burns cleaner by mandate. The LA basin would look like Shanghai or Beijing otherwise, a great example of runaway crony capitalism.

#23 | Posted by dibblda at 2019-10-18 08:01 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

That's not even Getting into how many lives would be cut short.

#24 | Posted by dibblda at 2019-10-18 08:02 PM | Reply

Anyways Trump's dementia is showing as usual.

#25 | Posted by dibblda at 2019-10-18 08:04 PM | Reply

Not a single post about what our President said?

""We've taken control of the oil in the Middle East."

Y'all do realize that was totally irrational? He's left reality. He is delusional. It is sort of a problem when the leader of the free world is out of his mind saying thing which are totally ridiculout. This is a break with reality. I feel it's sort of wierd that no one else is talking about that.

#26 | Posted by danni at 2019-10-18 08:05 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Dulli wants to move to Tijuana so he can be with all his brown brothers and protest the Wall, but gas prices are almost 4 dollars a gallon there.

No problemo, though, Trump now owns all the Mid-East oil. Ax' him.

#27 | Posted by Corky at 2019-10-18 08:05 PM | Reply

Many dictators say things that are totally untrue all the time, Trump is testing the waters. If he can convince the American people that he controls all the oil in the ME he is going to be our dictator. He's just testing the water to see what the push back will be, he should be impeached tonight because he's f*****g crazy.

#28 | Posted by danni at 2019-10-18 08:09 PM | Reply

"This is a break with reality. I feel it's sort of wierd that no one else is talking about that."

Trump has normalized insanity.

#29 | Posted by dibblda at 2019-10-18 08:16 PM | Reply

Is this one of those "you take him literally instead of seriously" moments?

Yeah. Even that doesn't work.

#30 | Posted by YAV at 2019-10-18 08:24 PM | Reply

GOP Rep. Rooney Won't Rule Out Impeachment: It's Certainly Clear' There Was Quid Pro Quo
www.thedailybeast.com

#31 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2019-10-18 08:35 PM | Reply

People on this board still haven't figured out this is Trump's M.O. He says crazy stuff to distract people and dissipate their attention from any one thing he's previously said or done. And people are still falling for it, every damn time, after three years of the same predictable pattern.

#32 | Posted by sentinel at 2019-10-18 08:45 PM | Reply

He says crazy stuff to distract people and dissipate their attention from any one thing he's previously said or done.

How Presidential.

#33 | Posted by REDIAL at 2019-10-18 11:22 PM | Reply

Your dislike for Obama got us looking like incompetent suckas.

#34 | Posted by fresno500 at 2019-10-18 11:39 PM | Reply

And people are still falling for it, every damn time, after three years of the same predictable pattern.

#32 | POSTED BY SENTINEL AT 2019-10-18 08:45 PM | REPLY |

When are the republicans going to hold him accountable?

If someone robs a different bank every day do we just stop talking about the bank he robbed yesterday? Do we pretend each day that he as never robbed a bank before?

#35 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2019-10-19 12:11 AM | Reply

Dulli wants to move to Tijuana so he can be with all his brown steeds...

:>)

#36 | Posted by madscientist at 2019-10-19 04:31 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

If a buck fifty breaks your bank

Who fault is that?

Considering how south Cali used to be enveloped in an orange haze, it's only a minor inconvenience

#37 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2019-10-19 08:48 AM | Reply

Trump says now he controls all the oil in the ME. OK, what should we have learned by now and how do we capitalize on his crazy statement. I'm not an expert investor but I'd hazard a guess that it will affect the price of oil. Those who invest in oil futures would use that statement to predict which direction oil prices will go. This is really just manipulation of commodities trading, he's not really as crazy as he pretends to be but he landed in the perfect position to manipulate markets and profit from it. Basically, to Trump, the Presidency really just represents winning the lottery.

#38 | Posted by danni at 2019-10-19 09:27 AM | Reply

Whines about people paying an extra buck fifty for gas they don't have to buy - has no issue with us taxpayers funding trump property renovations

Some apparently has stolen your scruples

#39 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2019-10-19 09:46 AM | Reply

"Whines about people paying an extra buck fifty for gas they don't have to buy
POSTED BY CHIEFTUTMOSES "

I would too! My truck holds 24 gallons. I can't imagine paying $100 for a fillup. That's unfathomable to me.

As far as not having to buy gas? Actually most of us do. Gas powered vehicles need -- well you know -- gas, oddly enough.

#40 | Posted by goatman at 2019-10-19 10:38 AM | Reply

Your dislike for Obama got us looking like incompetent suckas.

#34 | POSTED BY FRESNO500 AT 2019-10-18 11:39 PM | REPLY

The DNC and it's inability to put up a candidate more likeable than Hillary got us this, nothing about Obama.

#41 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2019-10-19 11:41 AM | Reply

Progressive celebrities who promise to move to Canada every 4 years if the Republican candidate is elected should move first. Then I'll think about it.

#17 | Posted by nullifidian

Righties must fulfill their promises first.

For example, Rush Limbaugh, who promised he was moving to Costa Rica if Barack Obama was elected but is still holed up in his bunker in Florida.

#42 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-10-19 01:18 PM | Reply

"For example, Rush Limbaugh, who promised he was moving to Costa Rica if Barack Obama was elected but is still holed up in his bunker in Florida.

#42 | POSTED BY AMERICANUNITY "

That's one. And besides, the lefties were making their promise to move out of the US if Bush was elected. And there were many more of them than Rush. Try again.

Partial list of lefties who said they'd leave the US if Bush was elected

www.chicagotribune.com

Partial list of lefties who said they'd leave the US if Trummp was elected

thehill.com

#43 | Posted by goatman at 2019-10-19 01:23 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Nulli... I am sure the ---- hole states would love to have you.

It is called voting with your feet. And it looks like, regardless of your snowflake whining, you know where the best opportunities are, and it is NOT the ---- hole states.

You are voting with your feet, and you are voting FOR California.

That is why everything is do expensive there... because selfish ------ like YOU want to live there because it offers the best opportunities, driving up the costs.

#44 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2019-10-19 05:27 PM | Reply

--You are voting with your feet, and you are voting FOR California.

I vote for our magnificent natural wonders, Yosemite and the High Sierra, giant redwoods, fabulous coastline, Joshua Tree, etc., all of which will survive the crazy moonbeamers who have taken over our beautiful state. They didn't create those things and they can't destroy them. They'll wreck everything else.

#45 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-10-19 05:38 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#45 ^ that is definitely worth voting for. California is a beautiful state, but (paraphrasing Edward I of England) the problem with California is Californians. And I don't mean the common folk. They're good people like most. I mean the idiots in Sacramento.

#46 | Posted by goatman at 2019-10-19 05:46 PM | Reply

The DNC and it's inability to put up a candidate more likeable than Hillary got us this, nothing about Obama.

#41 | POSTED BY KWRX25

Well, maybe we shouldn't be choosing a President on "likeablilty" rather than competence. Sounds like something stupid people would do.

#47 | Posted by WhoDaMan at 2019-10-19 07:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Well, maybe we shouldn't be choosing a President on "likeablilty" rather than competence. Sounds like something stupid people would do."

Someone should tell voters how stupid they are and that they shouldn't be doing certain things. I'm sure that'll work out well.

The reality is that there are huge blocks of voters who don't believe any politicians will actually do anything to improve their lives, so they choose the one who's less annoying or more likeable/entertaining.

#48 | Posted by sentinel at 2019-10-19 08:35 PM | Reply

If Trump and today's Republican Party is what they choose, then they're stupid. Smart people don't burn down their own house when they get pissed.

#49 | Posted by WhoDaMan at 2019-10-19 10:17 PM | Reply

The Premium gas I buy was $4.18 /gal the other day. In Escalon in the Central Valley I saw a $5.15 /gal at a Chevron.
Got to love those California and Federal and local and sales tax. but you know I wouldn't live any place else and I will
buy a hybrid or a more economical car to make up for the extra cost of fuel.

#50 | Posted by randomcanyon at 2019-10-20 09:48 AM | Reply

Goatman: Don't you live in Texas? My reps in the foothills of the Sierra Nevada are all Republicans and mostly trumpanzees.
I don't care for my reps but I could say a lot about some of the people elected to Congress from Texas also.
(Cruz and Louie Gohmert) . Every state has its good and bad. California is just progressive and the President and the rest
of the conservative / trumploveing country should just get over it. We are doing something right being the 6th largest economy and all.

#51 | Posted by randomcanyon at 2019-10-20 09:56 AM | Reply

--We are doing something right being the 6th largest economy and all.

.

San Francisco is losing residents because it's too expensive for nearly everyone
www.usatoday.com

#52 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-10-20 10:40 AM | Reply

First off, the vast majority of our oil comes from this continent. I think we get something like 10% from the Middle East. That's a success story of us getting off dependency on foreign oil.

Secondly, gas costs money, you moron. You have to refine the oil and get the gasoline to where it goes, and you give people money to do that. Apparently we need Economics for Children on this site.

San Francisco is rich because the investors are all there. It's a double edged sword, because those people are crazy powerful and can be either profoundly good for the world, or the most vile evil in the country. Either way, their money stays among the upper class. It doesn't serve the little people.

There's WAY more going on in the Middle East than meets the eye, and Trump's statement alludes to that. I'm sure it has something to do with the Iranian strike on Saudi oil fields, but who knows? We'll probably never get the full story.

But in general, you should probably root for the USA having influence on the oil market for a lot a reasons.

#53 | Posted by colliferite at 2019-10-20 12:58 PM | Reply

I think his statement was a calculated attempt to affect the price of oil and benefit those who knew he was going to say it in advance. We've been reading about the huge profits some unknown investors have been making due to his tweets and statements, this is just the most obvious one to date.

#54 | Posted by danni at 2019-10-20 01:06 PM | Reply

"They didn't create those things and they can't destroy them. They'll wreck everything else."

They did preserve those things so you can enjoy them today and they work diligently to keep them preserved. Understand, right now, Trump is giving away and selling public lands at a horrible rate while you talk s**t about those who try to preserve the things you claim to love. You are, without a doubt, one of the dumbest people who posts on this site. And I don't mean that merely to insult you, I mean it in the sense that you really just don't know who your friends are. You cheer for the very people who don't give a crap about your, would happily destroy National Parks, log the Sequoia forests and ruin every other natural place in the country if there is money to be made doing so.

#55 | Posted by danni at 2019-10-20 01:13 PM | Reply

#55 | Posted by danni Just a question, what state has the greatest wealth disparity? California has the most poor, a quarter of the US poor. It also has the most plutocrats, those with assets more than 500 million. All the result of "progressive politics"? I give less than a damn what Cali does, but it is bring a lot of employment to Texas. Keep on killing yourself Cali. The bills are coming due. How are they going to avoid bankruptcy? Raise more taxes?

#56 | Posted by docnjo at 2019-10-20 02:18 PM | Reply

"what state has the greatest wealth disparity?"

The one with the most rich people.
The bottom of the wealth disparity is always going to be right around zero.
The top is going to be higher in a state where there are more rich people.

It's California, right? Right.

#57 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-10-20 02:22 PM | Reply

#57 | Posted by snoofy Yea, the state with the highest crime, highest homelessness, greatest numbers of working poor, highest taxes, and an insulated elite living in their gated communities. Maybe California isn't such a nice place anymore.

#58 | Posted by docnjo at 2019-10-20 02:31 PM | Reply

"greatest numbers of working poor"

That's a bad thing now?
You'd rather they be idle poor?

#59 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-10-20 02:35 PM | Reply

"the state with the highest crime"

LOL
Where did you get your propaganda from, Docnjo?
I dare you to post the link.

To be fair, it could just be you don't realize you're drinking from the Whites Only water fountain, like when you posted links from rense.com.

#60 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-10-20 02:38 PM | Reply

"It also has the most plutocrats, those with assets more than 500 million. All the result of "progressive politics"?"

Actually California is 4th but Florida is 5th and no one can claim Florida has a "progressive government."

www.cnbc.com

#61 | Posted by danni at 2019-10-20 02:44 PM | Reply

#60 | Posted by snoofy I use the measure of insurance claims made in Cali. Not the reports of the emasculated police in La La Land. Hell California can't afford to keep violent offenders in prison. My daughter lives in a nice area, Sunnyvale near SF. They seldom go out after dark. The hoards of street people use BART to find crap to steal or people to rob. A vast majority of crime in that area goes unreported. This isn't Compton or Okland, this is a nice area.

#62 | Posted by docnjo at 2019-10-20 02:48 PM | Reply

"#60 | Posted by snoofy I use the measure of insurance claims made in Cali"

Post the link.

#63 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-10-20 02:49 PM | Reply

#63 | Posted by snoofy Na, I was not seeing a problem when I visited last fall. www.iii.org www.insurancepanda.com

#64 | Posted by docnjo at 2019-10-20 05:18 PM | Reply

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