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Tuesday, October 22, 2019

Facebook announcement: Today, we removed four separate networks of accounts, Pages and Groups for engaging in coordinated inauthentic behavior on Facebook and Instagram. Three of them originated in Iran and one in Russia, and they targeted a number of different regions of the world: the US, North Africa and Latin America. All of these operations created networks of accounts to mislead others about who they were and what they were doing. We have shared information about our findings with law enforcement, policymakers and industry partners. We're constantly working to detect and stop this type of activity because we don't want our services to be used to manipulate people. We're taking down these Pages, Groups and accounts based on their behavior, not the content they posted. In each of these cases, the people behind this activity coordinated with one another and used fake accounts to misrepresent themselves, and that was the basis for our action. We are making progress rooting out this abuse, but as we've said before, it's an ongoing challenge.

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Facebook said the network bears the hallmark of the same Kremlin-backed group that interfered in the 2016 election by sowing social discord, seeking to boost Trump and attacking Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton. The new disinformation campaign appears to follow the same playbook.

This time, a coordinated group of Russian accounts that appears to show some links to the Internet Research Agency largely took to Facebook's photo-sharing app, Instagram, to post content this year about U.S. politics and memes targeting Democratic presidential contenders.

The operation demonstrated a sophisticated understanding of the schisms within the Democratic Party as it labors to choose a nominee to face Trump in 2020. One Russian account, which portrayed itself as a black voter in Michigan, used the #BlackLivesMatter hashtag to hammer Biden for gaffes about racial issues. Some of the accounts boosted one of his rivals on the left, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.).

"We are seeing again that the aim of the Russians is not exclusively to favor one candidate over another but to create divisiveness within the electorate overall," said Paul M. Barrett, deputy director of New York University's Stern Center for Business and Human Rights. "The reason that networks of phony accounts are drawn to Instagram is because disinformation is increasingly visual in nature, and that's what Instagram specializes in."

Here we go again, and now the story is being told in real time. Voters are being manipulated by a foreign government again and this President simply cheers them on and mimics every debasing thing they say.

No wonder Trump wants to get to another election, and one of the few very important reasons he must be impeached and exposed as unfit for his office.

#1 | Posted by tonyroma at 2019-10-21 09:23 PM | Reply

@#1 ... No wonder Trump wants to get to another election, and one of the few very important reasons he must be impeached ...

I have a different view, though we may end up with a similar conclusion.

My view...

Russia is continuing to sow the seeds of discord in the Democracies around the world. Pres Putin knows that a divided house falls upon itself. So he seeks to fertilize the divisions within our Country for his benefit.

The big picture is not about Pres Trump being impeached, as your comment seems to focus upon.

The big picture is --- how much of an influence do we want to allow foreign interests to have upon the government of our Country?

How much do we want to allow Pres Putin to turn us against ourselves?


#2 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-10-21 09:33 PM | Reply

#2

That horse has already left the barn back in 2014-15 when their efforts first started.

The only way to negate the influence of their interference is to have a full public acknowledgement that it is actually occurring. Then and only then can we take concrete steps to protect ourselves with full consensus.

And that is something which is impossible right now because this President calls the whole thing a "hoax" since he knows that it benefits him and harms his opponents. Trump, with Putin's help, has already turned Americans against Americans, and does so almost every day. That is Trump's only play because too many people rightly despise him, so he has to gaslight all the rest in order to keep his power and to stay out of future jail after all his crimes catch up to him.

#3 | Posted by tonyroma at 2019-10-21 09:42 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@#3 ... The only way to negate the influence of their interference is to have a full public acknowledgement that it is actually occurring. ...

Well, yeah.

I did say, "I have a different view, though we may end up with a similar conclusion."

That aspect is strategic to the long term security of our Country.

However, when it is based in the current political aspects

... because this President calls the whole thing a "hoax" ...

it is so easily dismissed.

Trying to justify strategy based upon tactics will not get you anywhere.

You need to base your tactics upon your strategy.

Listen to Gen Mattis....


#4 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-10-21 09:57 PM | Reply

Sad that voters could be swayed via Facebook

#5 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2019-10-22 07:42 AM | Reply

Sad that voters could be swayed via Facebook

Yeah, that's why nobody advertises their products on Facebook either... That's why Facebook's net worth as of October 21, 2019 is $530.22 Billion.

smh....

Didn't think that through, did ya?

#6 | Posted by tonyroma at 2019-10-22 08:08 AM | Reply

Ads work. It doesn't matter where they appear. Even if you consider yourself relatively immune to the art of persuasion coming across a particular ad, it will still shape your opinion in other, less direct, ways. And it's always been this way. Facebook is just the media of the moment.

#7 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2019-10-22 08:15 AM | Reply

The average American is not trained to detect the sophisticated deception of advertising designed by psychological expertise.

#8 | Posted by WhoDaMan at 2019-10-22 08:53 AM | Reply

A lot of old people on Facebook. Old people are more easily swayed and scammed by propaganda and con artists. That's why Fox News and Trump get away with their BS.

#9 | Posted by hamburglar at 2019-10-22 09:36 AM | Reply

Didn't think that through, did ya?
#6 | POSTED BY TONYROMA

So you're saying you're easily swayed by possible foreign propaganda ads on Facebook?
Okay, dude. Nice.

#10 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2019-10-22 11:11 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

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Any anti Trump stuff on Facebook?

#11 | Posted by fishpaw at 2019-10-22 12:04 PM | Reply

#10
Everybody likes to think they're immune to marketing tactics. There are varying degrees of sophistication in terms of critical thinking and BS filtering. As Trump's entire presidency has proven, some people are highly gullible. Others are less so. But advertising works if it's well done. And the ability of Facebook to target its users with incredible specificity makes it one of the most effective advertising media available.

#12 | Posted by cbob at 2019-10-22 12:06 PM | Reply

Ads on Facebook are far more insidious than almost anywhere else. You can't easily share a TV or newspaper add with hundreds of your friends with one click. If you like or comment on one ad then Facebook's algorithm directs more similar ads at you, but you never see ads on the other side of the issue. At least on TV candidates from both sides can put ads in you face. Also, we're seeing certain networks rejecting ads for lies, but Facebook is saying they won't do the same.

Here's a question for the Bernie folks. These Russuan accounts pushed negative propaganda against Biden, Warren, and Harris, but they boosted Bernie, just like the did in 2016, any idea why? We know Russian bots have also been boosting Gabbard is this an attempt to sew dissension among Dems?

#13 | Posted by _Gunslinger_ at 2019-10-22 12:34 PM | Reply

Do you folks actually like/share/click/comment on ads on facebook? I've never done that. Ever. I naturally assumed that nobody was intentionally interacting with ads. Why on earth would anyone do that? I'm honestly not even aware of what ads there are on any social media, websites, or anything that I visit. While I don't go out of my way to avoid looking at them, I just...don't. Am I really that out of touch with how people are interacting with the online world?

People are really -choosing- to click on ads? I really have a hard time grasping that concept.

#14 | Posted by Avigdore at 2019-10-22 01:04 PM | Reply

But they'll leave up lying ads purchased by putin's puppet in the white house.

#15 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-10-22 01:19 PM | Reply

As Trump's entire presidency has proven, some people are highly gullible. Others are less so. But advertising works if it's well done. And the ability of Facebook to target its users with incredible specificity makes it one of the most effective advertising media available.

#12 | POSTED BY CBOB AT 2019-10-22 12:06 PM | FLAG:

Sure, more like you and quacks like Speak are highly gullible. How many times have CNN, MSNBC been proven wrong yet they still pump out the false stories because they know you guys will buy it.

#16 | Posted by fishpaw at 2019-10-22 03:22 PM | Reply

How many lies must Trump get caught telling before sycophants like Fishpuss stop believing him.

#17 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-10-22 03:25 PM | Reply

yet they still pump out the false stories

#16 | Posted by fishpaw at 2019-10-22 03:22 PM | Reply

I'll bite. Specify.

#18 | Posted by Zed at 2019-10-22 03:29 PM | Reply

Avigdore and Fishpaw...

I know it's probably pointless to continue using reason with either of you, but I'm gonna do it anyway.

I shouldn't have used the word "advertising" to describe what's going on here. Marketing, PR, gaslighting, and astroturfing might be better terminology, because it's not 30-second TV commercials or online banner ads that say "The Democrats are bad. Click here to find out what the Russians know."

There are a variety of tactics being employed, the simplest of which is to pose as regular Americans and post memes, articles and other content that aligns with the beliefs of Trump supporters... accusations about Hillary, Obama, the Bidens, the deep state, etc. There's likely to be a shred of truth to make it believable, but some degree of distortion and/or an appeal to emotions will come into play as well. The best examples reinforce your biases and nudge you to share what you're reading.
(cont.)

#19 | Posted by cbob at 2019-10-23 11:34 AM | Reply

Forget Russia and politics per se and just check out this photo on Reddit: www.reddit.com

#20 | Posted by cbob at 2019-10-23 11:35 AM | Reply

Hilarious photo, right? An exorcism combined with a chicken dinner!

This photo has been circulating on social media for years. Confirms the Kentucky stereotype of backwardness.

(cont.)

#21 | Posted by cbob at 2019-10-23 11:38 AM | Reply

The problem is, it's photoshopped. In other words, the photo is a lie.
The original photo made no mention of exorcism:
southernspaces.org

I was going to post the exorcism photo on Twitter as a funny dig at backward yokels until I stumbled upon the real story.

I fell for a social media lie. I'm pretty sure you are falling for lies too. Highly motivated fakers know this.

#22 | Posted by cbob at 2019-10-23 11:44 AM | Reply

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