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Thursday, October 24, 2019

An editorial from the conservative Wall Street Journal argues that President Donald Trump does not deserve to be impeached because he was too incompetent to properly carry out a corrupt act.

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Then impeach him for being stupid.

Look, fact is Donald's done things like this for his entire life and it's worked for him. This time it didn't. so let him burn.

#1 | Posted by Zed at 2019-10-24 10:02 AM | Reply

Well, it is beginning to look as if he did at least try at the quid pro quo.

Perhaps the ineptness that the WSJ points to is why he may be impeached for botching it.

But to the point of the editorial, if the WSJ thinks Pres Trump is too inept to be corrupt, what does that say about his ability to lead the Country?

#2 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-10-24 10:06 AM | Reply

It's amazing that this is probably the best defense Trump has for this issue.

#3 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-10-24 10:09 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Trump deserves impeachment for profiting from the office of POTUS while serving as president ...

And deserves impeachment for enabling genocide in Yemen by selling the Saudis bazillions of dollars in military hardware to them to slaughter the Yemenis wholesale.

As I've been saying, the Russiagate and Muellergate hoaxes have been debunked -- Trump is too incompetent to pull off a conspiracy with Putin and Russia.

And with Ukrainegate, the Democrats are also corrupt over Ukraine and should look elsewhere for impeaching the worst presidential candidate Democrats have ever lost an election to.

#4 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-24 10:10 AM | Reply

#3
Have you completed your "Deep dig" yet?

What do you have to say about Taylor's testimony on 'Quid Pro Quo'?

Asking for a friend.

#5 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour at 2019-10-24 10:12 AM | Reply

fact is Donald's done things like this for his entire life and it's worked for him. This time it didn't. so let him burn.

#1 | POSTED BYZED

Yesterday YOU said over and over that I was helping Trump because I wasn't buying the Democrats lies and corruption over the debunked hoaxes of Russiagate and Muellergate, and that YOU said the Democrats were not corrupt on Ukraine.

Now YOU ARE AGREEING with the fact that Trump is an incompetent political novice too stupid to pull off a conspiracy with Russia and Putin -- per a WSJ op-ed pushed by a Democrat friendly media outlet Raw Story ...

If you, Speak, AngryPops, Danni, Gal the Hack, and anyone else who's been saying I'm helping Trump ...

If anyone of you guys had an ounce of integrity you would apologize to me right here, right now.

#6 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-24 10:22 AM | Reply

"Please put $50,000 into this bag and act natural. I am pointing a gub at you."

#7 | Posted by grumpy_too at 2019-10-24 10:37 AM | Reply

If the WSJ is correct then use the 25th Amerndment and remove the incompetent ass from office.

#8 | Posted by danni at 2019-10-24 10:42 AM | Reply

"I am pointing a gub at you."

I love that line, one of my favorites of all time.

#9 | Posted by danni at 2019-10-24 10:42 AM | Reply

"Yesterday YOU said over and over that I was helping Trump because I wasn't buying the Democrats lies and corruption over the debunked hoaxes of Russiagate and Muellergate, and that YOU said the Democrats were not corrupt on Ukraine."

Those are not debunked hoaxes. No apology from me.

#10 | Posted by danni at 2019-10-24 10:44 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

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Trump is too incompetent to pull off a conspiracy with Putin and Russia.

#4 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-24 10:10 AMFlag: (Choose)FunnyNewsworthyOffensiveAbusive

I really don't get you. Putin isn't incompetent. Tell me you understand?

#11 | Posted by Zed at 2019-10-24 10:47 AM | Reply

As I've been saying, the Russiagate and Muellergate hoaxes have been debunked

No, it wasn't moron.

Are you pulling a nulli and in trying to be so edgy you're blowing right past cynical to easily duped liar?

#12 | Posted by jpw at 2019-10-24 11:33 AM | Reply

And with Ukrainegate, the Democrats are also corrupt over Ukraine and should look elsewhere for impeaching the worst presidential candidate Democrats have ever lost an election to.

#4 | Posted by PinchALoaf

Or maybe you should stop being an idiot tool bag who's regurgitating talking points because you don't have a ball to take home.

#13 | Posted by jpw at 2019-10-24 11:34 AM | Reply

It's no surprise they'd resort to this.

After all, they're already starting to wind up the blame machine against the Dems for all the negative consequences of impeaching their Orange Schitstain.

#14 | Posted by jpw at 2019-10-24 11:39 AM | Reply

Pinch's Aaron Mat link is just garbage, but the WaPo link is, I think, correct in its assertion that Mueller's testimony was going to be disappointing. I saw that coming from the git-go. Mueller did not want to be there, and he wasn't going to say anything but what was in the report.

This is what Pinch does, quite out in the open: Finds a source, any source, including youtube comments, that agree with his narrative.
Post them.
then use "QFT" as though that means they're more valid.

The conclusions he draws from the two articles I referenced above aren't what I draw from reading them, either, so that's also weird.

#15 | Posted by YAV at 2019-10-24 11:49 AM | Reply

Aaron Mate (with an accent on the "e")

#16 | Posted by YAV at 2019-10-24 11:50 AM | Reply

Would it even be possible to exercise the 25th Amendments with so many "Acting" Secretaries in the Cabinet?

#17 | Posted by danni at 2019-10-24 11:53 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#12 | POSTED BY JPW

Well charge him then...

The only idiot is you, and anyone one else holding out hope that he did something "legally" wrong in Russiagate and Muellergate hoaxes.

This just so hilarious, its like saying the Benghazi investigations prove Obama was a traitor.

#14 | POSTED BY JPW

You wake up just pissing vinegar, I mean, I get in the evening all this toxic masculinity talk, but do you talk this way when you get up in the morning?

You must be a real joy to be around.

#18 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-10-24 11:56 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Well charge him then...

I love how this is the new idiocy from the right wing mouthbreathers.

As if charging on your schedule makes a damn bit of difference regarding the veracity of the information.

The only idiot is you, and anyone one else holding out hope that he did something "legally" wrong in Russiagate and Muellergate hoaxes.

You're such a pathetic knob gobbler your standard is sub-basement level "is it legal".

So if Trump is taking directives from Putin on how to run his policies but isn't breaking any laws, you're perfectly fine with that?

but do you talk this way when you get up in the morning?

You must be a real joy to be around.

#18 | Posted by AndreaMackris

When Trump supporters are this stupid in the morning, then get called out this early in the morning.

As for being around me, I make it a point of avoiding abjectly stupid people.

#19 | Posted by jpw at 2019-10-24 12:03 PM | Reply

I enjoy JPW giving fools the respect they're due.
Never too early for that!

#20 | Posted by YAV at 2019-10-24 12:11 PM | Reply

If Republican who are actually one the Committee that they invaded with their cell phones yesterday obviously know there are impeachable crimes and that is why they chose to try and disrupt the Committee meeting. It has been reported that Trump himself was in on the planning for that ridiculous and illegal protest.

#21 | Posted by danni at 2019-10-24 12:11 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

--You must be a real joy to be around.

I'm betting a lot of his colleagues and acquaintances cross the street when they see him approaching. Life is too short to deal with toxic, angry personalities.

#22 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-10-24 12:18 PM | Reply

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think several Republican states passed laws that now allow us to run over Republican Legislators when they perpetrate illegal protests In the People's House. Thats how those laws work, right?

Did you know that when the POUTS and lawmakers come together and plan to break U.S. Congressional security laws, and then, proceed to break laws, as a coordinated group effort, it is defined as Conspiracy Against the United States Government.

Sargent at arms, please run over these law breakers.

I'm pretty sure an illegal conspiracy to prevent or hinder an Official Congressional Investigation will likely be in its self, and on it's face, proof of Obstruction of Justice.

#23 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour at 2019-10-24 12:29 PM | Reply

Oops jumped threads. Damn. Gonna hafta 'dig deep' to figure out what happened.

This could take a while...

#24 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour at 2019-10-24 12:32 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

You guys saying the Russiagate and Muellergate hoaxes are real, while denying that Democrats aren't also corrupt over Ukraine ...

While saying Trump is too inept to pull off a quid pro quo conspiracy ...

Just shows how much you'll twist yourselves into knots in justifying talking out of both sides of your mouths.

Trump can't be both convincingly sinister AND stupid.

It was these same arguments about George W. Numbnuts being the mastermind of 9/11 and the WTC Bldg 7 collapse, remember?

Trump broke all your brains.

#25 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-24 12:33 PM | Reply

I can't even read that post, Pinch. What part are you saying, and what part are you quoting? Are you saying all of it? If so, that's seriously f**ked up.

#26 | Posted by YAV at 2019-10-24 12:39 PM | Reply

Trump can't be both convincingly sinister AND stupid.

#25 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019

It's entirely possible to be evil and stupid.

#27 | Posted by Zed at 2019-10-24 12:55 PM | Reply

Just shows how much you'll twist yourselves into knots

#25 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019

What's going on is almost as straightforward a thing as you see in real life.

#28 | Posted by Zed at 2019-10-24 12:57 PM | Reply

"Just shows how much you'll twist yourselves into knots in justifying talking out of both sides of your mouths."

If you're doing anything right now, Pinch, it's to illustrate how ugly and insane partisan loyalty truly is.

Look at the absurd arguments people make.....all in the name of partisan loyalty.

And people wonder why I'm a fence sitter........LOL

#29 | Posted by eberly at 2019-10-24 01:08 PM | Reply

This is what I keep saying. Is it a crime if he doesn't know what he's doing?

#30 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2019-10-24 01:14 PM | Reply

You guys saying the Russiagate and Muellergate hoaxes are real, while denying that Democrats aren't also corrupt over Ukraine ...

You're saying the sky is blue because you like turtles.

Your postings are either a. spam to push Jimmy the Bore or b. logical fallacies strung together in things that vaguely resemble sentences.

#31 | Posted by jpw at 2019-10-24 01:15 PM | Reply

I'm betting a lot of his colleagues and acquaintances cross the street when they see him approaching. Life is too short to deal with toxic, angry personalities.

#22 | Posted by nullifidian

LOL that's pretty rich coming from a curmudgeon like you.

Like I said, I simply avoid being around abjectly stupid people, especially when they're whiny, nasty old fools to boot.

#32 | Posted by jpw at 2019-10-24 01:16 PM | Reply

If you can, read the comments on WSJ. For a Murdoch owned entity, the comments are decidedly anti-Trump.

#33 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2019-10-24 01:21 PM | Reply

#30

It depends on the statute, some laws require "criminal intent", others don't. In this instance, it is unclear: If Trump had conditioned aid or a meeting on Ukraine investigating interference with US elections and the Biden's weren't involved, then this is not a criminal matter. But the fact that Joe Biden is running for POTUS and his idiot son was on the Burisma Board of Directors and Trump mentioned his name completely changes the calculus.

Looking at this like a Prosecutor, I think the pivotal question is not whether Trump asked Ukraine to look into Biden and Burisma but on whether it was clear that Ukraine knew that the aid was conditioned upon that "ask", and I think through the carefully calculated leaks from Schiff's committee that is where they are headed.

#34 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-10-24 01:22 PM | Reply

Like I said, I simply avoid being around abjectly stupid people, especially when they're whiny, nasty old fools to boot.

Says the guy who spends part of his day on a blog blithely agreeing with comments posted by abjectly stupid, whiny nasty old fools because they fit his personal Narrative.

SMFH

#35 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-10-24 01:32 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#34

Cohen said Trump asks for favors in a round about way followed by a wink. I don't know if implying is illegal. In regards to Schiff and Pelosi, Pelosi wouldn't be doing this unless she knows she has him. It'll be a slow, calculated roll-out.

#36 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2019-10-24 01:36 PM | Reply

It's entirely possible to be evil and stupid.

#27 | POSTED BY ZED

That's pretty stupid since the exact same thing was said about George Bush.

Since Trump and Dubya are sooooo stupidly evil, why can't smart wholesome holier-than-thou Democrats ever beat these evil dunces?

Your brain is broke.

You need to stick to ping pong and chewing hubba bubba.

#37 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-24 02:05 PM | Reply

You need to stick to ping pong and chewing hubba bubba.

#37 | POSTED BY PINCHALOAF

I always had Zed pegged as a Bubble Yum guy.

#38 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-10-24 02:23 PM | Reply

Says the guy who spends part of his day on a blog blithely agreeing with comments posted by abjectly stupid, whiny nasty old fools because they fit his personal Narrative.

SMFH

#35 | POSTED BY RIGHTOCENTER

You know what they say about assumptions.

But all you've got is cutesy attempts to turn posts around on the OP.

How original. Impressive too. Do your clients know you're such a towering intellect?

#39 | Posted by jpw at 2019-10-24 03:08 PM | Reply

Is it a crime if he doesn't know what he's doing?

I think at minimum he knew he was asking Zelenskyy for a thing of value in connection with a federal election. Nothing beyond that is required for it to be a criminal campaign finance violation.

To constitute bribery he'd need corrupt intent. I think corrupt intent is inherent to virtually everything Trump does and says, but reasonable minds may differ on that point.

#40 | Posted by JOE at 2019-10-24 03:23 PM | Reply

Impeachment doesn't necessitate criminal activities, but abuse of power or public trust.

www.nytimes.com

Chirping "but it's not illegal" is a gossamer thin defense.

#41 | Posted by jpw at 2019-10-24 03:33 PM | Reply

why can't smart wholesome holier-than-thou Democrats ever beat these evil dunces?

#37 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-24 02:05 PMFlag: (Choose)FunnyNewsworthyOffensiveAbusive

Because they don't do it alone, do they? They pay people off, or seduce them with access to power, or intimidate them into compliance.

Perhaps stupid isn't the right word for Trump. Ignorant is a lot better. But in terms of evil, he is. Some people decide that being evil gets you things.

#42 | Posted by Zed at 2019-10-24 03:43 PM | Reply

"Trump's too fkkking stupid to partake in a quid pro quo!"

Good thing he's our President...

#43 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-10-24 03:54 PM | Reply

Good thing he's our President...

#43 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK

I voted for Hillary in 2016.

And blaming Trump winning on the debunked Russiagate hoax distracts from the truth ...

Thomas Frank: "Trump won because Clinton and Democrats dismissed concerns of working-class people"
youtu.be
[11:43]

QFT

#44 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-24 05:26 PM | Reply

That's been his shtick the whole time. The idiot who made it.

#45 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-10-24 11:22 PM | Reply

Stop excusing criminal activity because he is stupid.

If anyone tried to rob a bank and failed because they are stupid, they would still go to jail.

#46 | Posted by Nixon at 2019-10-25 07:48 AM | Reply

The folks in jail are tremendously stupid. Trump belongs there with the rest of his second amendment people.

#47 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-10-25 08:47 AM | Reply

From the item linked to this thread's headline:

In an editorial that criticizes Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA) for holding impeachment inquiry testimony behind closed doors so far, the editorial board argues that ambassador Bill Taylor's testimony that Trump directly tied military aid to Ukraine to investigating his political opponents shouldn't be seen as an impeachable offense because the president got caught doing it.

This sounds like something you'd read on 'The Onion' or 'The Borowitz Report'.

OCU

#48 | Posted by OCUser at 2019-10-26 01:59 AM | Reply

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