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Tuesday, October 29, 2019

The Trump administration wants to dictate how and where global auto companies make cars and parts to secure duty-free treatment under the new Nafta -- in its most direct intervention yet to manage trade and production, according to people familiar with the effort.

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Lol and "free market Conservatives" will be just fine with it.

#1 | Posted by jpw at 2019-10-29 03:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The White House wants specific language that would allow it to unilaterally administer the production rules for companies.

And just like trillion dollar deficits, "conservatives" only care when there's a democrat running the show.

#2 | Posted by JOE at 2019-10-29 03:39 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Surely this thread needs some VENEZUELA applied generously on the affected area.

#3 | Posted by schifferbrains at 2019-10-29 03:54 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

This is stupid and probably unconstitutional.

Further, he can't just unilaterally do this - it has to come to his desk in the form of legislation.

#4 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-10-29 03:56 PM | Reply

This actually creates a pretty big opportunity for Progressive Democrats to express outrage that Trump wants Central Planning of industry.

#5 | Posted by danni at 2019-10-29 04:08 PM | Reply

#5

You are correct about that, Danni.

#6 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-10-29 04:09 PM | Reply

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I can't imagine this has any chance of going somewhere.

#7 | Posted by eberly at 2019-10-29 04:11 PM | Reply

One man controls everything.

#8 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-10-29 04:40 PM | Reply

This isn't his goal. Watch out for his fallback position when he the opposition grows. Then everybody will treat whatever position that is as more reasonable. That's what he will have wanted all along.

#9 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2019-10-29 05:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Damn communists!

#10 | Posted by YAV at 2019-10-29 05:43 PM | Reply

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Trump has already proven that he can levy duties for any reason he wants.

You either support that or want Congress to legislate duties.

#11 | Posted by bored at 2019-10-29 06:07 PM | Reply

Article within the article:

Read More: Manufacturing Is Now Smallest Share of U.S. Economy in 72 Years

"Trade wars are good, and easy to win"

#12 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar at 2019-10-29 07:42 PM | Reply

Just don't say that the Republicans aren't trying as hard as the Democrats to turn this country into a banana republic.

#13 | Posted by Ray at 2019-10-29 07:45 PM | Reply

Nice to see the GOP got ALL the lessons of Ayn Rand's ridiculous books wrong. Pretty sure this type of corruption was what she was railing against. Can't wait to see Ayn Rand Paul to express his strongest support.

#14 | Posted by _Gunslinger_ at 2019-10-29 07:56 PM | Reply

This is a trick to get Democrats to denounce statism, regulation and industrial policy.

Don't be fooled...

It's a cookbook!

#15 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-10-29 08:09 PM | Reply

This actually creates a pretty big opportunity for Progressive Democrats to express outrage that Trump wants Central Planning of industry.

#5 | Posted by danni at 2019-10-29 04:08 PM | Reply | Flag:

#5

You are correct about that, Danni.

#6 | Posted by JeffJ

That would require repubs to accept facts over their propaganda. Dems = communist! is their only plan for 2020. They're not going to admit trump is more socialist than dems because it would destroy their entire campaign strategy.

#16 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-10-29 08:29 PM | Reply

BTW trump's taxpayer funded bailouts to farmers has now exceeded the US gov bailout of the auto industry.

Yet repubs will STILL buy into the propaganda the dems are the big gov socialist party.

#17 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-10-29 08:30 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

There is more to this as I now recall.

The new NAFTA creates a three nation trade union complete with a Russian style central planning bureaucracy.
It's more than about cars. A whole lot more.

#18 | Posted by Ray at 2019-10-29 08:39 PM | Reply

#16 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

Welcome to the ugly world of political campaigning in the US, Speaks.

It was actually far worse a couple of centuries ago.

#19 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-10-29 08:47 PM | Reply

Dems = communist! is their only plan for 2020. They're not going to admit trump is more socialist than dems because it would destroy their entire campaign strategy.

Trump more socialist? Hardly possible. It's more like Democrats lead, Republicans follow. As this 2007 NY Times article explains, it was in the planning stage long before Trump. If you read the article, it dismisses the North American Union as a conspiracy theory. Yet now here it is.

"The NAU may be the quintessential conspiracy theory for our time, according to scholars studying what the historian Richard Hofstadter famously called the "paranoid style" in American politics."

www.nytimes.com

#20 | Posted by Ray at 2019-10-29 08:52 PM | Reply

"trump's taxpayer funded bailouts to farmers has now exceeded the US gov bailout of the auto industry"

WOW. I hadn't even heard a peep about that. Amazing. I'll look that up.

#21 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-10-29 08:58 PM | Reply

Looked it up. It's true. Crazy.

#22 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-10-29 09:04 PM | Reply

It was actually far worse a couple of centuries ago.

#19 | Posted by JeffJ

Yeah you have to go back centuries to find behavior as reprehensible as republicans in 2019.

#23 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-10-29 09:05 PM | Reply

Trump more socialist? Hardly possible. It's more like Democrats lead, Republicans follow.

#20 | Posted by Ray

It's more like - nonpartisan ray can't blame anything on repubs, so when repubs do something he cant defend, he says dems made them do it.

#24 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-10-29 09:06 PM | Reply

It's more like - nonpartisan ray can't blame anything on repubs, so when repubs do something he cant defend, he says dems made them do it.
#24 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

I wouldn't put it that way. It's more like Republicans hiding behind Democrat skirts. Their rhetoric is designed to appeal to conservative voters.

Trump could have rejected the agreement. Instead he lied and made its socialist leanings sound like he's bringing manufacturing back to the US.

#25 | Posted by Ray at 2019-10-29 09:19 PM | Reply

Trump could have rejected the agreement. Instead he lied and made its socialist leanings sound like he's bringing manufacturing back to the US.

#25 | Posted by Ray

So take it up with trump and his supporters, rather than playing your same old "dems made them do it" game.

#26 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-10-29 09:47 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

... The Trump administration wants to dictate how and where global auto companies make cars and parts ...

This will not end up in a good place.

Pres Trump has tried to affect the products and production of companies in the past, with bad results...

Trump donor's coal company files for bankruptcy
thehill.com

How well did Pres Trump's intervention in the coal industrious work out that company?



#27 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-10-29 09:59 PM | Reply

The Trump administration wants to dictate how and where global auto companies make cars and parts to secure duty-free treatment under the new Nafta -- in its most direct intervention yet to manage trade and production, according to people familiar with the effort.

None of this garbage matters if Congress and the President had the guts to end tax loopholes for corporations that ship jobs overseas -- along with real fair trade practices that protect American workers ...

I'm sure there are many other things that our spineless politicians could do to legislate/encourage American businesses to NOT build factories overseas, and instead have American businesses and corporations aim their profits into R & D and reinvestment in America's communities where the factories and jobs are located -- just like what was done in the 1950's, 60's, 70's.

Everything I just described is stakeholder-capitalism, where all stakeholders share in the profits = CEOs and managers, workers, communities, etc.

What's been going on the last 40 some years is shareholder-capitalism where outsourcing, tax-breaks, and stock buybacks do everything to encourage businesses and corporations keep all the profits for shareholders while never raising wages for workers.

#28 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-10-29 09:59 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Speak

I just got done explaining how the the Republicans play the game.

I'm not making excuses for them.

I have a brother who identifies with Republicans. After Obamacare was passed into law, the Republicans were swearing they would repeal the law. My brother believed them. You know the rest of the story.

#29 | Posted by Ray at 2019-10-29 10:04 PM | Reply

I'm not making excuses for them.

#13 is an excuse whether you choose to acknowledge that or not.

#30 | Posted by JOE at 2019-10-29 10:12 PM | Reply

#13 is an excuse whether you choose to acknowledge that or not.

#30 | POSTED BY JOE

From this site's self-declared anarchist?

No, it isn't.

#31 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-10-30 07:26 AM | Reply

#28...aim their profits to R & D?

I thought everyone wanted to end corruption by stopping corporate funding of the two political parties.

#32 | Posted by Petrous at 2019-10-30 08:25 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

he can't just unilaterally do this - it has to come to his desk in the form of legislation.
#4 | Posted by JeffJ

Rs now have a majority on the Supreme Court so the Constitution is whatever they say it is. And they'll say this is OK.

#33 | Posted by SomebodyElse at 2019-10-30 11:31 AM | Reply

""trump's taxpayer funded bailouts to farmers has now exceeded the US gov bailout of the auto industry""

Auto industry paid their back, pay up farmers!

#34 | Posted by danni at 2019-10-30 12:03 PM | Reply

I can't wait for a TV commercial featuring either Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren lecturing Trump on a centrally planned economy. I guess when you get your orders from the formerly Communist Putin you're going to embrace some Soviet era ideas.

#35 | Posted by danni at 2019-10-30 12:06 PM | Reply

--I can't wait for a TV commercial featuring either Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren lecturing Trump on a centrally planned economy

Yeah, Professor Warren is going to denounce her own industrial policy proposals and Accountable Capitalism Act.

#36 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-10-30 12:15 PM | Reply

From this site's self-declared anarchist?

He's not an anarchist ... he sucks off the system, he uses the system but doesn't agree with it, he's a leech.

I see nothing here that the government is taking control of the "means of production"

As Nulli correctly points out Warren is off the rails if your corporation is over $1Billion in revenue.

All this proposal is saying is there will be duty-free zones, much like a duty free shop, and if you want things duty free you must buy them in the duty free zone.

Doesn't say you can't make cars out side the zone, doesn't control the means of production in any way or form.

Thread is garbage.

#37 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-10-30 12:33 PM | Reply

"Yeah, Professor Warren is going to denounce her own industrial policy proposals and Accountable Capitalism Act."

Her industrial policy proposals have more to do with breaking up monopolies than with central planning. She wants the same things that many of our Presidents wanted until, and here it is again, Reagan stopped enforcing the Sherman Anti-Trust Act. So many things went wrong when traitor Reagan became President. Now Republicans are going to start whining about our debt, right after they slash taxes for the 1%, Just like Traitor Reagan and Traitor Bush.

#38 | Posted by danni at 2019-10-30 07:31 PM | Reply

He's not an anarchist ... he sucks off the system, he uses the system but doesn't agree with it, he's a leech.
#37 | POSTED BY ANDREAMACKRIS

That's fascinating. Tell me more.

#39 | Posted by Ray at 2019-10-30 08:32 PM | Reply

It's more like Democrats lead, Republicans follow.
#20 | Posted by Ray

Then elect democrats.

#40 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-10-31 12:57 AM | Reply

Then elect democrats.
#40 | POSTED BY BRUCEBANNER

If none-of-the-above were on ballots, more people would vote.

#41 | Posted by Ray at 2019-10-31 06:19 AM | Reply

This is stupid and probably unconstitutional.

Further, he can't just unilaterally do this - it has to come to his desk in the form of legislation.

#4 | POSTED BY JEFFJ AT 2019-10-29 03:56 PM | REPLY

Just like a lot of other ---- he does. The Senate won't hold him accountable.

#42 | Posted by Nixon at 2019-10-31 07:20 AM | Reply

The headline is misleading, but this sort of intrusion into private industry decisions under the guise of trade regulations runs counter to true free market ideals and is wrong, just like NAFTA was wrong and TPP was wrong.

#43 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2019-10-31 08:17 AM | Reply

Crazy how much socialist stuff comes out of Trump's mouth and his popularity is still up a few points since he was elected.

#44 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2019-10-31 08:40 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#44 this isn't so much socialist as it is globalist. If Trump nationalized the auto industry, it would be socialist. Telling them where they can build factories is just intrusive overregulation.

#45 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2019-10-31 09:32 AM | Reply

It's the opposite of globalist. Protectionist, for perceived social benefits.

#46 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2019-10-31 11:03 AM | Reply

Hypocrisy is what it is. But I guess most Trumpers are inured to that by now.

#47 | Posted by moder8 at 2019-10-31 11:24 AM | Reply

#46 Except that those odious terms are coming as part of an international trade agreement.

#48 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2019-10-31 11:39 AM | Reply

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