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Monday, November 04, 2019

"Yay!" Judy Stark cried out to her husband, Richard, as they officially left California. The pair bobbed their heads to '50s music playing on the radio. Like many other Republican and conservative voters in California, the retired couple have decided to leave the state.

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I don't have a problem with the "liberal political culture". I actually participate just to see if I can get a JPW type reaction, usually it doesn't take long, and leaves me with a good chuckle. Certainly expressing my PoV is verboten.

I do think its changed tremendously since the 80's.

I suppose its the hypocrisy is so much larger and more extreme. There was a documentary on the fall of TheSimpsons, it was that it was ground breaking because it was so different/edgy and anti-establishmentarian, given the shows on at the time. But it became so big it became the establishment, so making fun of establishment didn't translate.

California suffers from everyone thinking they are "environmentalist", living in their (2500sf) single family home with solar power while driving a Prius. They act like Yav, and his holier than thou attitude.

The reality is they consume more residential energy than every state but Texas, which is incredible considering the mild climate.
www.eia.gov

#1 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-11-04 01:56 PM | Reply

I actually participate just to see if I can get a JPW type reaction, usually it doesn't take long, and leaves me with a good chuckle.

The troll admits its own character.

#2 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2019-11-04 01:58 PM | Reply

The reality is they consume more residential energy than every state but Texas, which is incredible considering the mild climate.
www.eia.gov

#1 | POSTED BY ANDREAMACKRIS

Is that per-capita? The chart doesn't say. Otherwise, it's easily explainable considering the population. And FYI, AC typically takes more energy than heat.

#3 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2019-11-04 02:17 PM | Reply

California's population has been growing every year, but there's an "exodus" according to Republican fuzzy math because two retired people moved away.

#4 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar at 2019-11-04 02:33 PM | Reply

California's population has been growing every year, but there's an "exodus" according to Republican fuzzy math because two retired people moved away.
#4 | POSTED BY DEREK_WILDSTAR

Both are true. Many people moving to California while many, notably Republicans, are choosing to leave because they can't handle what's already been a thing for the longest time: Californian liberal influences on culture and policy. This is nothing new, except for "TRUMP!"

#5 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2019-11-04 02:36 PM | Reply

Concern (and weariness) over wildfires is a legitimate reason to leave California, in my opinion. It is becoming exhausting tracking all the fires. Something's gotta give. Either we stop building so recklessly, or we accept yearly wildfires in densely inhabited areas. I will, however, say, that the fire departments has become AMAZING at controlling and directing the fires. Time and again mass destruction is being diverted.

#6 | Posted by moder8 at 2019-11-04 02:36 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

California's population has been growing every year, but there's an "exodus" according to Republican fuzzy math because two retired people moved away.

For the dumbass liberal who didnt read the article....

Just over half of California's registered voters have considered leaving the state, according to a UC Berkeley Institute of Governmental Studies poll conducted for the Los Angeles Times. Republicans and conservative voters were nearly three times as likely as their Democratic or liberal counterparts to seriously have considered moving " 40% compared with 14%, the poll found.

Between 2007 and 2016, California lost 1 million residents to domestic migration " about 2.5% of its total population, according to a 2018 report from the state Legislative Analyst's Office. Texas was the most popular destination.

#7 | Posted by boaz at 2019-11-04 03:26 PM | Reply

"Just over half of California's registered voters have considered leaving the state, according to a UC Berkeley Institute of Governmental Studies poll conducted for the Los Angeles Times. Republicans and conservative voters were nearly three times as likely as their Democratic or liberal counterparts to seriously have considered moving " 40% compared with 14%, the poll found."

This is wonderful news. The sooner all right wingers get the hell out of here the better. We should continue to encourage policies that make self absorbed, greedy Republicans want to leave here. They contribute NOTHING.

#8 | Posted by moder8 at 2019-11-04 03:46 PM | Reply

2.5% over a decade is an "exodus"?

As the most populated and most expensive state in the country, is it surprising that people are leaving?

I would have, truthfully, expected that % to be higher.

#9 | Posted by jpw at 2019-11-04 03:51 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Despite spending most of their lives in the Golden State, they were fed up with high taxes, lukewarm support for local law enforcement, and policies they believe have thrown open the doors to illegal immigration."

Taxes too high.
Not enough Brownshirts.
Too many Mexicans.

"helps conservatives in California relocate from liberal states to redder ones, such as Texas and Idaho."

Redder?
Whiter.

#10 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-11-04 06:08 PM | Reply

#7 | POSTED BY BOAZ

I did read the article and it doesn't change the reality. California's population has been growing every year.

People who have considered leaving aren't the same as people actually leaving.

Losing 1 million residents over a decade isn't really a big deal for somewhere like California. The number of people moving in and staying is way higher.

It's not an "exodus". There's nothing like that described in the article. Indeed, the actual headline is simply "California conservatives leaving the state for redder pastures'".

63,000 Californians moved to Texas in 2017. Put into perspective, Los Angeles Metro Rail alone has over 340,000 users every day.

#11 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar at 2019-11-04 07:12 PM | Reply

I love all the hand wringing by our resident non Californians.

#12 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-11-04 07:14 PM | Reply

I'm considering going on a diet. If I keep considering, will I lose weight?

#13 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2019-11-04 08:43 PM | Reply

California haters are hilarious.

They're like the losers who couldnt get into the hottest club in town, sitting on the curb and talking about how it probably sucks in there anyways and the drinks are a ripoff.

Yeah the state is expensive, meaning you have to have skills to live there, meaning you have to be smart. Which is why there aren't many republicans. Don't whine that you can't compete with the best, just setting down in texas or kansas and live out your years with other morons who think the earth is 6000 years old.

#14 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-11-04 08:50 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"People who have considered leaving aren't the same as people actually leaving."

Maybe the better question would be if "if you could leave tomorrow, would you?" I suggest that the number would be much higher. The actual number that "have a right to leave" doesn't not reflect those that trapped by a State that uses their own investment and taxes against their own interests. Basically, the State of California was big into long term investment (when I lived there in the 80's and '90's). At the time Cali was generally a conservative state. It was a wonderful place to live. We had law enforcement that investigated and arrested criminals, cheap/clean power (nuclear), promotion of industry within certain safeguards, etc. Liberals wanted power. So they looked south. And buy doing so began the destruction of the 2nd greatest economy on the planet.

FTR. Nobody doesn't like Latinos. What Conservatives have a problem with is importing illegals for political gain. Hell Democrats have spent 100+ years exploiting at risk people for the benefit of the party. So maybe it shouldn't be a surprise.

#15 | Posted by bogey1355 at 2019-11-04 09:08 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

Basically, the State of California was big into long term investment

#15 | Posted by bogey1355

Yeah let's hear a lecture from the climate denying, billionaire tax cutting party about long term investment policies.

Still trying to save coal in order to get those coal miner votes in the next election?

#16 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-11-04 09:21 PM | Reply

Maybe the better question would be "if you could afford to live in California, would you?"

People aren't leaving for something better. They're leaving for something cheaper.

#17 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-11-04 09:24 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"Nobody doesn't like Latinos"

Apparently you missed the mass shooting of Hispanics at the Walmart on the border in Texas.

Or, maybe you're just an -------.

#18 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-11-04 09:41 PM | Reply

Cali is just so expensive. I lived there off and on a few times but I gave up when I knew I would never be able to afford a decent house that wasn't in a place like Compton or Watts. I miss the warm winters though and all the great places to eat and fun stuff to do.

#19 | Posted by byrdman at 2019-11-04 09:49 PM | Reply

#17 nailed it.
It's hard to find a place with better climate than San Diego.
It's not hard to fine a place with a far lower cost of living than San Diego.

#20 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-11-04 09:54 PM | Reply

California Conservatives Leaving

That sounds amazing. Maybe i'll move to California after the next housing crash.

#21 | Posted by JOE at 2019-11-04 10:09 PM | Reply

"Nobody doesn't like Latinos"
Apparently you missed the mass shooting of Hispanics at the Walmart on the border in Texas.
Or, maybe you're just an -------.
#18 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-11-04 09:41 PM | Reply

Maybe you have missed the shootings of dead black people in Chicago, Baltimore, Dallas, Baton Rouge, etc., Or maybe you just like dead Americans of a certain skin tone.

#22 | Posted by bogey1355 at 2019-11-04 10:12 PM | Reply

I'm sure that the loss of ----------- mouthbreathers will make humans real sad.

#23 | Posted by contrecoup at 2019-11-04 10:20 PM | Reply

"Maybe you have missed the shootings of dead black people in Chicago, Baltimore..."

Why shoot dead people?

#24 | Posted by contrecoup at 2019-11-04 10:39 PM | Reply

Maybe you have missed the shootings of dead black people in Chicago, Baltimore, Dallas, Baton Rouge, etc.

You left out Charleston. Why was that?

#25 | Posted by REDIAL at 2019-11-04 10:45 PM | Reply

Whats really wrong with compton or watts? The music? You said its the only affordable place. I just read an article that more than 7 out of 10 ** illegals are on assistance in Cali. I'm sure a legal American citizen could get a piece of that cali assistance as well, no?

**What whole number is more than 7 out of 10? There's only three and it seemed odd that the writer worded it that way. I'm a lazy gringo that won't do the jobs that illegals will do so i won't look that up now.

#26 | Posted by mutant at 2019-11-04 11:08 PM | Reply

"I just read an article that more than 7 out of 10 ** illegals are on assistance in Cali"

Please link it. I'd like to see their definitions of "illegals" and "assistance".

#27 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-11-04 11:28 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Californians always love to see retirees heading to Nevada and Arizona only to be replaced by multi-millionaires in their 30s.

#28 | Posted by Tor at 2019-11-04 11:45 PM | Reply

--only to be replaced by multi-millionaires in their 30s.

More like illegal immigrants, who are flocking to our sanctuary state where they are treated like virtual citizens

#29 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-11-05 12:04 AM | Reply

"More like illegal immigrants, who are flocking to our sanctuary state where they are treated like virtual citizens"

The sports cars multiplying like flies where I live in OC says otherwise.

#30 | Posted by dibblda at 2019-11-05 01:43 AM | Reply

Whelp, looks like the Californians have finally corrupted Texas:

Poll: Plurality of Texans believe Trump impeachment investigations are justified
www.fox4news.com

#31 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2019-11-05 01:53 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The sports cars multiplying like flies where I live in OC says otherwise.

#30 | POSTED BY DIBBLDA

It's illegals driving those Obama-sportscars while talking on their Obama-phones.

#32 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2019-11-05 08:19 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Dulli moving to the snow white parts of Alabama?

It was just a matter of time. They have a white sheet cap and gown with his name on it. He can move on from caging brown kids to starving black ones.

btw, people living in smaller spaces with solar power and electric vehicles is also just a matter of time; a more efficient and equitable future, no matter how much that scares the trust fund toddlers and their 'ho's.

#33 | Posted by Corky at 2019-11-05 11:57 AM | Reply

btw, people living in smaller spaces with solar power and electric vehicles is also just a matter of time; a more efficient and equitable future, no matter how much that scares the trust fund toddlers and their 'ho's.

#33 | Posted by Corky

With enough solar, we dont even need smaller spaces.

#34 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-11-05 01:10 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The reality is they consume more residential energy than every state but Texas, which is incredible considering the mild climate.
www.eia.gov
#1 | POSTED BY ANDREAMACKRIS

Damn, you are dumb.

That's TOTAL usage, not per capita. Of course, California, the most populated state, has more usage than smaller states in total usage.

Per Capita, California is second to last ONLY using more energy in residential than Hawaii.
www.eia.gov

30 seconds on Google

You're blind hatred of anything liberal or moderate makes you too stupid to post here or anywhere else.

#35 | Posted by Sycophant at 2019-11-05 02:14 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Since illegals are counted in the census, what is California's growth without that number?

#36 | Posted by Petrous at 2019-11-05 02:15 PM | Reply

For the dumbass liberal who didnt read the article....
#7 | POSTED BY BOAZ

More like illegal immigrants, who are flocking to our sanctuary state where they are treated like virtual citizens
#29 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN

For the dumbass Conservatives who didn't read the article....

California has been gaining people with higher incomes.

As Derek pointed out at #4, the state is still growing in population overall too.

#37 | Posted by Sycophant at 2019-11-05 02:18 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Mackris - thanks for the shout-out in #1!

Sorry I just discovered this thread. Looks like there's nothing for me to add but a little "holier than thou" attitude! LMAO!

#38 | Posted by YAV at 2019-11-05 02:22 PM | Reply

With all the illegals generally mexican, and hence Catholic, its no wonder the population increases.

I heard the mexicans singing, "...Let the heathens spill theirs on the dusty ground..."

#39 | Posted by Petrous at 2019-11-05 02:25 PM | Reply

The sun is shining. The birds are twittering. Not a cloud in the sky. I look out my office window and see people in short sleeve shirts ambling across the courtyard. Yeah. California is pretty ---- good.

#40 | Posted by moder8 at 2019-11-05 02:31 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Funn-eh reading. I just got back from CA... I love it there... its still a good place to live... its just not for free.

#41 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2019-11-05 02:32 PM | Reply

Why don't rightwingers defer to the "invisible hand" and admit that the marketplace has determined California to be the best place to live?

#42 | Posted by JOE at 2019-11-05 02:39 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

It is the best place to live. It just is not cheap. And the fires really do suck. So you spend a little more for better insurance.

#43 | Posted by moder8 at 2019-11-05 02:41 PM | Reply

""Nobody doesn't like Latinos"
Apparently you missed the mass shooting of Hispanics at the Walmart on the border in Texas.
Or, maybe you're just an -------.
#18 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-11-04 09:41 PM | Reply
Maybe you have missed the shootings of dead black people in Chicago, Baltimore, Dallas, Baton Rouge, etc."

Nah. I didn't miss them. I noticed them. And that's why I don't make ridiculous statements like

"Nobody doesn't like black people."

You. You don't like black people.

#44 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-11-05 03:16 PM | Reply

It is the best place to live. It just is not cheap.

#43 | POSTED BY MODER8

Those two go hand in hand. Basic economics... "supply and demand".

I would try to tell conservatives about it, but they consider anything based in "science" or "facts" to be elitist. So they will continue to post more contradictory articles like this claiming that California is a bad place to live because it is too expensive.

#45 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2019-11-05 04:42 PM | Reply

Hey there M/M Stark! Come to Okiehomie--red state par excellence! You's arrive to low taxes, few good jobs, bad roads, bad schools, and bad healthcare! That's what deep red states are like! And remember--we're better than Arkansas or Mississippi, and almost as good as Texas (or so we think).

Running from the Libs? Don't like Spanish speakers? You will end up in either Indiana or Ohio, every day pining for Cali-forn-I-A...

#46 | Posted by catdog at 2019-11-05 06:27 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I've no problem with conservatives leaving CA, it is the libs, like cancer cells, that move into red states and bring their stupidity with them and advocate for the very things that drove them from CA. Proof the libbies are a lot of things, but smart is not one of them.

#47 | Posted by MSgt at 2019-11-05 09:22 PM | Reply

Good luck to the place that is going to receive this flood of unemployed cons.

#48 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-11-05 09:53 PM | Reply

I don't know where some of you whiny conservatives live in California, but I was just down there to watch the Ducks kick the ---- out of the Trojans, and, as usual, it was beautiful. I spent time in Santa Monica, Venice Beach, Burbank, downtown LA, and Granada Hills. Awesome visit, nice, productive people all over the place, and none of the parade of horrors I see described here by right wingers all the time.

#49 | Posted by mOntecOre at 2019-11-05 11:36 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

- the parade of horrors

Nice you were able to miss Dulli and Mattress and have a good time!

I loved living in N Cali and visiting San Diego and La Jolla.

I stopped overnight in La Jolla when moving to Austin. Our cat went missing and after a frantic search and leaving messages with the authorities and a local posh pet shop, I had to move on.

A few weeks later I got a call from the pet shop and they had the cat. They flew him to Austin on their dime after keeping him a while longer, and boy was he pissed! He had gained 10 lbs and apparently wanted to go back.

#50 | Posted by Corky at 2019-11-06 12:10 AM | Reply

Awesome... now how can we get conservative geezers out of Oregon too?

Do pray .. for now there are only 39.9 million people left in Cali.. let's hope they survive this biblical exodus.

#51 | Posted by 503jc69 at 2019-11-06 01:14 PM | Reply

Frankly people have been leaving California for a couple decades. Colorado and Texas are popular locations that's why they are more blue all the time... Florida too (but more for Republicans.)

#52 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2019-11-06 07:34 PM | Reply

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