Drudge Retort: The Other Side of the News
Tuesday, November 05, 2019

Three years ago, during the 2016 presidential election, ABC spiked an expose into convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein and his network of connections to powerful men, including Bill Clinton. That's the bombshell scoop by investigative journalist James O'Keefe. In a hot mic video leaked to O'Keefe, 20/20 co-anchor Amy Robach can be heard angrily lamenting the fact that ABC killed the story. Regarding alleged victim Virginia Roberts, Robach complained to an off-camera ABC staffer: "She (Virginia Roberts) told me everything. She had pictures, She had everything. She was in hiding for 12 years. We convinced her to come out. We convinced her to talk to us. It was unbelievable what we had. Clinton, we had everything."

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#1 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2019-11-05 05:08 PM | Reply

To save Hillary's campaign.

#2 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-11-05 05:13 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Recap:

NBC killed story on Harvey Weinstein, saying it didn't meet their editorial standards.

ABC spiked story on Jeffrey Epstein, saying same.

Both orgs (& rest of media) went wild running uncorroborated stories about Brett Kavanaugh being a gang rapist.

9:15 AM Nov 5, 2019Twitter Web App

#3 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-11-05 06:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"To save Hillary's campaign"

It's significantly larger than that, but I would not be surprised if political fallout across the board was part of the decision making process.

#4 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-11-05 06:24 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Both orgs (& rest of media) went wild running uncorroborated stories about Brett Kavanaugh being a gang rapist."

Then I'm sure linking to videos of each claiming BK was a gang rapist should be easy to provide.

Otherwise, I call --------. Neither ABC nor NBC ran ANY stories claiming Brett Kavanaugh was a "gang rapist."

#5 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-11-05 06:29 PM | Reply

They all covered the Julie Swetnick story.

Every day a new headline: "Yet another woman accuses BK of sexual assault"

#6 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-11-05 06:31 PM | Reply

The point is (clearly flew over your head) very credible (and multiple) allegations were buried when it was Weinstein (or Epstein) but FAR (I'm talking off the charts) less credible allegations toward BK were reported.

#7 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-11-05 06:32 PM | Reply

"less credible allegations toward BK were reported."

Well sure, "less credible" when you refuse to interview the one named witness.

Tell the truth, Jeff: would you have accepted it if Democrats had "investigated" without bothering to interview the named eyewitness?

You're giving (R)s a pass for what you'd excoriate (D)s.

#8 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-11-05 06:35 PM | Reply

epstein and weinstein didnt give public testimony as blatantly guilty and awful as BK.

---- analogy, as usual, jeff.

#9 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2019-11-05 06:37 PM | Reply

"Yet another woman accuses BK of sexual assault"

That was a fact.

Now...either post the "gang rape" video, or tell Nulli to retract his bald-faced lie.

#10 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-11-05 06:42 PM | Reply

Alex,

The analogy is that the WEinstein and Epstein stories were rabidly suppressed by the same media that uncritically reported each and every absurd BK allegation.

DNCDan,

Better ice those shoulders after moving those goalposts that far.

#11 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-11-05 06:46 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Gang rape was Swetnick's allegation and it was reported in spite of its absurdity. She was even granted a TV interview over her allegations.

#12 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-11-05 06:48 PM | Reply

Otherwise, I call --------. Neither ABC nor NBC ran ANY stories claiming Brett Kavanaugh was a "gang rapist."

Danforth as usual lies ....

Swetnick alleges that in 1982, she "became the victim" of one of these rapes "where Mark Judge and Brett Kavanaugh were present." She says she told at least two people what had happened -- and she says she was incapacitated and "unable to fight off the boys raping me." Swetnick believes she was drugged with Quaaludes "or something similar placed in what I was drinking."
www.cbsnews.com

#13 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-11-05 06:58 PM | Reply

Danforth as usual lies ....

He is not lying, the Donkey Suit whispers into his ears what he is supposed to believe and reiterate.

#14 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-11-05 07:22 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

The differences are:
Weinstein and Epstein were rich and were not up for SCOTUS.
I suspect they both had shady connections to bad people and that scared media executives.

Bill Clinton allegations were reported.

Kegger was a broke nobody up for SCOTUS, so why not make news of allegations.

Nothing was surfaced about Gorsuch.

No evidence of a left bias.

#15 | Posted by bored at 2019-11-05 07:34 PM | Reply

"Yet another woman accuses BK of sexual assault"
That was a fact.
Now...either post the "gang rape" video, or tell Nulli to retract his bald-faced lie.

#10 | POSTED BY DONKEY SUIT DAN

Here you go:

ABC News, ostensibly a news organization, sat on one of the biggest and most consequential stories of the past decade. By the company's explanation, this was for the sake of an editorial standard, a standard that was strangely missing from its coverage of another significant moment in recent U.S. history.

ABC News, along with just about every other outlet, gladly ran the allegations of sexual assault against then-Judge Brett Kavanaugh, even though corroborating evidence was nonexistent and most of the stories being told were quite clearly lies. In fact, some of the allegations published by ABC were so outlandish that the FBI and the Senate Judiciary Committee didn't even consider them.

Between Sept. 13 and 24 of last year, ABC News, CBS, and NBC devoted nearly 6 hours to the accusations against Kavanaugh, and only 8% of that coverage included Kavanaugh's denials and lack of evidence behind the accusations. Yet ABC News couldn't be bothered to give Robach a few minutes to cover credible and substantiated accusations against a pedophile and sex trafficker who had been living it up with the rich and famous on both sides of the pond.


Are you going to apologize to Nulli, DNCDan?

#16 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-11-06 10:04 AM | Reply

"Are you going to apologize to Nulli"

As soon as you find the "gang rape" accusation.

You get how these things work, right? If Nulli claims "gang rape", and you post something without a whiff of "gang rape", you're really not helping his argument.

#17 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-11-06 10:19 AM | Reply

"Are you going to apologize to Nulli, DNCDan?"

No.

Are you going to admit you didn't meet the bar Nulli set, Jizz-Swallowing Jeff?

#18 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-11-06 10:19 AM | Reply

As soon as you find the "gang rape" accusation.
You get how these things work, right? If Nulli claims "gang rape", and you post something without a whiff of "gang rape", you're really not helping his argument.

#17 | POSTED BY DANFORTH AT

You make this too easy:

Kavanaugh accuser Julie Swetnick alleges he 'spiked' punch at parties so intoxicated women could be raped
Her sworn statement, tweeted by her lawyer Michael Avenatti on Wednesday, alleges Kavanaugh was present when she was gang raped.

www.nbcnews.com

Gleefully reported by the MSM without any corroborating evidence whatsoever.

Nulli awaits your apology.

#19 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-11-06 10:21 AM | Reply

Do you want more links, Danforth?

I can provide them. Is NBC not credible enough for you?

www.cnbc.com

Julie Swetnick Is Third Woman to Accuse Brett Kavanaugh of Sexual Misconduct

www.nytimes.com

Now, be a man, sack up and apologize.

#20 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-11-06 10:23 AM | Reply

From the NYT link in #20:

The allegation came from Julie Swetnick, 55, who like Judge Kavanaugh, 53, grew up in the Washington suburbs. In a statement posted on Twitter by her lawyer, Ms. Swetnick said she observed the future Supreme Court nominee at parties where women were verbally abused, inappropriately touched, made "disoriented" with alcohol or drugs and "gang raped."

#21 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-11-06 10:25 AM | Reply

I've got his image of Danforth looking like the Road Runner zipping away at light speed after seeing Wile E Coyote behind him.

#22 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-11-06 10:28 AM | Reply

"and she says she was incapacitated and "unable to fight off the boys raping me.""

So they were quoting an accusation, not making one.

Where are the articles from, AND I QUOTE..
"Both orgs (& rest of media) went wild running uncorroborated stories about Brett Kavanaugh being a gang rapist."

So far, we have ZERO articles, and one reporting of a claim.

"I've got his image of Danforth looking like the Road Runner zipping away at light speed after seeing Wile E Coyote behind him."

No one has proven Nulli's claim, least of all Nulli himself. Neither have you.

#23 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-11-06 10:48 AM | Reply

You'll notice the reporting includes phrases like "Ms. Swetnick said..." and quotation marks, which indicate someone is speaking other than the author.

#24 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-11-06 10:49 AM | Reply

Where are the articles from, AND I QUOTE.
--
"Both orgs (& rest of media) went wild running uncorroborated stories about Brett Kavanaugh being a gang rapist."

I provided you with 3. How many more do you want?

All 3 ran an uncorroborated story about Brett Kavanaugh being a gang rapist. ALL of them reported Swetnick's allegations.

#25 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-11-06 10:50 AM | Reply

You'll notice the reporting includes phrases like "Ms. Swetnick said..." and quotation marks, which indicate someone is speaking other than the author.

#24 | POSTED BY DANFORTH

So?

#26 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-11-06 10:51 AM | Reply

So, you've backed yourself into a corner and are going to go full-on pedantic?

#27 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-11-06 10:53 AM | Reply

"So?"

So...you clearly don't know the difference between reporting a claim, and making a claim. Or you're pretending not to know.

Do you have ANY links where NBC and ABC themselves make the claim? Or are you going to stick with the reporting a claim = making a claim manure.

#28 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-11-06 10:55 AM | Reply

"going to go full-on pedantic?"

I was promised AT LEAST THREE links, by someone accusing particular news outlets. So far, not a one.

Are you going to go full-on moron?

#29 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-11-06 10:57 AM | Reply

"So, you've backed yourself into a corner "

No, you did, by posting something that didn't support Nulli's claim. Did you read his claim before posting?

#30 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-11-06 11:02 AM | Reply

Do you have ANY links where NBC and ABC themselves make the claim?

Gosh, now you are really going full-------. Never go full ------.

When Ronan Farrow broke the Weinstein story, did he himself make the claims, or did he quote women who made the claims?

He didn't witness any of it firsthand.

Nobody, other than Blasey Ford and she's pretty obviously lying, witnessed any of the allegations against Kavanaugh.

The claims against Weinstein and Epstein were WAY more believable with tons of specifics, multiple witnesses, tons of corroborating evidence, yet were actively suppressed by the MSM.

The claims against Kavanaugh were disgustingly risible yet the MSM broadcasted those claims as loudly as possible.

#31 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-11-06 11:04 AM | Reply

"When Ronan Farrow broke the Weinstein story, did he himself make the claims, or did he quote women who made the claims?"

He quoted women. Good discovery! Now...let's do the same with YOUR link. When they reported it, were they claiming it was true, or that it was made?

"Nobody, other than Blasey Ford and she's pretty obviously lying..."

In your opinion.

...witnessed any of the allegations against Kavanaugh."

You don't know that for a fact, and Republicans don't have that answer under oath. And if the shoe were on the other foot, you would've DEMANDED the named eyewitness be sworn.

"The claims against Kavanaugh were disgustingly risible yet the MSM broadcasted those claims"

The claims against Weinstein were disgusting as well. Yet you don't blame Ronan, you blame NBC/ABC. Do you see your double-standard?

#32 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-11-06 11:14 AM | Reply

Danforth,

This is the crux of what Nulli said:

The MSM actively suppressed credible and corroborated allegations against Weinstein and Esptein whilst running wild reporting on absurd allegations of sexual assault by Kavanaugh.

Just admit that you were wrong and move on.

#33 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-11-06 11:16 AM | Reply

"The claims against Weinstein and Epstein were WAY more believable "

That's not the barometer for reporting the claim itself.

You're now pretending if it's believable TO YOU, it's okay, but if it isn't TO YOU, somehow the reporting entity itself is making the claim. That's not how it works.

#34 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-11-06 11:16 AM | Reply

"This is the crux of what Nulli said:"

Put those goalposts back where you found them. Nulli promised at least three outlets which accused BK of being a gang rapist.

Meanwhile, you just admitted when Ronan Farrow reported claims made, the NYT wasn't the one making the claims. Based on YOUR barometer, neither you nor Nulli has produced a single article.

"Just admit that you were wrong and move on."

My irony meter just exploded. You completely moved the goalposts, and now you're telling me I'm wrong?!?

#35 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-11-06 11:21 AM | Reply

--This is the crux of what Nulli said:

Well actually I was just quoting Peter Bevan, the president of RCP, but if people want to give me credit for it, all I can say is thanks, and enjoy your day. Cheers!

#36 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-11-06 11:24 AM | Reply

A high-school pal of Brett Kavanaugh accuser Christine Blasey Ford says in a new book that she's skeptical of Ford's claim the Supreme Court justice sexually assaulted her at a party in the 1980s.

"I don't have any confidence in the story," Leland Keyser " who Ford has said was at the party where the alleged assault occurred " told two New York Times reporters in their book "The Education of Brett Kavanaugh: An Investigation."

"Those facts together I don't recollect, and it just didn't make any sense," Keyser insisted of Ford's account, according to authors Robin Pogrebin and Kate Kelly.


nypost.com

Put those goalposts back where you found them. Nulli promised at least three outlets which accused BK of being a gang rapist.

That's not what he said. If you believe that he was actually articulating that the MSM reported as first hand witnesses that Kavanaugh was a gang rapist then you are beyond help.

#37 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-11-06 11:26 AM | Reply

"Well actually I was just quoting Peter Bevan"

Alright, then you're both morons. Him for saying it, and you for reposting it.

And you still haven't proffered a single link were it's the news outlet making the claim, rather than reporting the claim.

#38 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-11-06 11:27 AM | Reply

That's not the barometer for reporting the claim itself...

#34 | POSTED BY DANFORTH

It absolutely is. Every day editors make decisions regarding credibility as a barometer as whether or not to publish claims.

Example - The Steele Dossier was widely disseminated to news outlets. All but 1 refused to report on it because it was so "salacious and unverified" that publishing it would violate journalistic standards.

#39 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-11-06 11:29 AM | Reply

"If you believe that he was actually articulating that the MSM reported as first hand witnesses that Kavanaugh was a gang rapist then you are beyond help."

Good God, I hope those goalposts aren't heavy.

The crux of Nulli's post was news outlets were making claims. As you pointed out, reporters reporting the claim IS NOT the same thing as making the claim, despite what morons want to believe.

#40 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-11-06 11:29 AM | Reply

"A high-school pal of Brett Kavanaugh accuser Christine Blasey Ford says in a new book that she's skeptical of Ford's claim the Supreme Court justice sexually assaulted her at a party in the 1980s."

So skeptical, but not sure.

Gee...d'you think she could be lying about CBF?

#41 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-11-06 11:31 AM | Reply

And you still haven't proffered a single link were it's the news outlet making the claim, rather than reporting the claim.

#38 | POSTED BY DANFORTH

Is this the sword you want to die on? Seriously????

News outlets don't make claims. They report claims. Opinion commentators will opine on the veracity of said claims.

I'm going to be blunt. You are really being stupid with this.

#42 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-11-06 11:31 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The crux of Nulli's post was news outlets were making claims. As you pointed out, reporters reporting the claim IS NOT the same thing as making the claim, despite what morons want to believe.

#40 | POSTED BY DANFORTH

This has become circular.

Here is Nulli's post:

Recap:
NBC killed story on Harvey Weinstein, saying it didn't meet their editorial standards.

ABC spiked story on Jeffrey Epstein, saying same.

Both orgs (& rest of media) went wild running uncorroborated stories about Brett Kavanaugh being a gang rapist.

9:15 AM Nov 5, 2019Twitter Web App

#3 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN


That is a perfectly accurate tweet that Nulli quoted.

#43 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-11-06 11:33 AM | Reply

"It absolutely is."

Then talk to Jeff about his post regarding Ronan Farrow. He said it's absolutely not. And when both sides of your face come up with one answer, let us know.

Was Ronan Farrow making those claims himself, or was he quoting folks who had made accusations?

#44 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-11-06 11:34 AM | Reply

"Running uncorroborated stories."

That is exactly what happened.

#45 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-11-06 11:34 AM | Reply

Was Ronan Farrow making those claims himself, or was he quoting folks who had made accusations?

#44 | POSTED BY DANFORTH

He was quoting.

#46 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-11-06 11:35 AM | Reply

Was Ronan Farrow making those claims himself, or was he quoting folks who had made accusations?

A distinction without a difference in this case... do you think they would "quote" it if they didn't think it was true/ or at least makes BK look "ohhirble?

Notice the contextomy .... its what propagandist do.

#47 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-11-06 11:35 AM | Reply

If I called the NYT tip hot-line and claimed Hillary Clinton raped me with a wiffle ball bat, would they just publish it, or would they first make an attempt to corroborate it?

#48 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-11-06 11:36 AM | Reply

Notice the contextomy .... its what propagandist do.

#47 | POSTED BY ANDREAMACKRIS

It's certainly what Danforth is doing.

#49 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-11-06 11:37 AM | Reply

"do you think they would "quote" it if they didn't think it was true"

Of course, that happens all the time. What an idiotic defense.

#50 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-11-06 11:40 AM | Reply

"Notice the contextomy .... its what propagandist do."

What a riot.

Try reading the words, and looking at the actual claim. Nulli should be able to produce videos from ABC, NBC, and at least one other outlet to prove his claim. Of course, it turns out the articles were just reporting the claims, not making the claims.

But all the Republicans on this thread have taken the "vow of stupid" when it comes to Trump, so they're all going to keep moving the goalposts until they're happy with the result.

Bottom line: Not a single article backing Nulli's claim.

#51 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-11-06 11:43 AM | Reply

All 3 ran an uncorroborated story about Brett Kavanaugh being a gang rapist. ALL of them reported Swetnick's allegations.

#25 | Posted by JeffJ

Actually, they said he was present at parties where gang rapes occurred.

#52 | Posted by jpw at 2019-11-06 11:45 AM | Reply

Was Ronan Farrow making those claims himself, or was he quoting folks who had made accusations?
#44 | POSTED BY DANFORTH

"He was quoting."
~Jeff

So was the author in the link you proffered. You'll notice by the quotation marks.

#53 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-11-06 11:45 AM | Reply

So much for a thread about ABC nixing Amy Robach's story about Epstein.

#54 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2019-11-06 12:01 PM | Reply

Danforth created one straw man, quibbling over semantics in a 280 max character tweet.

#55 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-11-06 12:19 PM | Reply

Actually, they said he was present at parties where gang rapes occurred.

#52 | POSTED BY JPW

I've linked Julie Swetnick's official testimony. I can't c/p it due to the format. Scroll down to #12. She explicitly states Kavanaugh participated in gang rapes.

www.commondreams.org

#56 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-11-06 12:51 PM | Reply

The only inaccuracy in this: "Running wild with uncorroborated stories about Brett Kavanaugh being a gang rapist" is that it was one story (singular, not plural, as in stories) about Kavanaugh being a gang rapist.

There was at least one other story about him being a rapist, so I can forgive a bit of conflation there, especially in a tweet and particularly given that semantic details are immaterial to the point the tweeter was making.

#57 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-11-06 12:54 PM | Reply

Technically, she only says she saw Kavanaugh getting girls drunk, and lining up to run a train on (gang rape) drunk girls. No witness of an actual rape.

#58 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-11-06 12:55 PM | Reply

"She explicitly states Kavanaugh participated in gang rapes. "

If her statement is reported, does that equal agreeing with her claim?

#59 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-11-06 12:56 PM | Reply

Read #12 In the link I provided, Snoofy

#60 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-11-06 12:57 PM | Reply

I just did, JeffJ.

#61 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-11-06 12:58 PM | Reply

"She explicitly states Kavanaugh participated in gang rapes."

That's pretty explicitly nebulous. The getaway driver participated in the bank robbery, but he didn't actually rob the bank, right?

#62 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-11-06 01:00 PM | Reply

"She explicitly states Kavanaugh participated in gang rapes."
That's pretty explicitly nebulous. The getaway driver participated in the bank robbery, but he didn't actually rob the bank, right?

#62 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

This is what she said, in part:

"I have firm recollection of seeing boys lined up outside rooms at many of these parties waiting for their "turn" with a girl inside the room. These boys included Mark Judge and Brett Kavanaugh."

#63 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-11-06 01:08 PM | Reply

"She explicitly states Kavanaugh participated in gang rapes. "

If her statement is reported, does that equal agreeing with her claim?

#59 | POSTED BY DANFORTH

Now you've moved the goalposts. The tweet that you took umbrage with contrasted the suppression of very credible and detailed allegations against Weinstein and Epstein with the same players running with such a ridiculous and uncorroborated tale spun by Julie Swetnick and their hero lawyer Michael Avenetti.

#64 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-11-06 01:10 PM | Reply

"a ridiculous and uncorroborated tale"

There's nothing ridiculous about it, other than the ridicule you bring.

#65 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-11-06 01:12 PM | Reply

#63 She remembers seeing Kavanaugh lined up to run a train. Never states she saw him actually do it.

#66 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-11-06 01:13 PM | Reply

#63 She remembers seeing Kavanaugh lined up to run a train. Never states she saw him actually do it.

#66 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

She doesn't claim to have been in the room with him when he did it. But she flat-out states that he waited his "turn". She flat-out accuses him of participating in multiple gang rapes.

"a ridiculous and uncorroborated tale"
There's nothing ridiculous about it, other than the ridicule you bring.

#65 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

Her allegations are objectively ridiculous. I know you love to troll, but this is low-brow even for you.

#67 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-11-06 01:19 PM | Reply

"She flat-out accuses him of participating in multiple gang rapes."

You're choosing to be deliberately obtuse again.

"Her allegations are objectively ridiculous."

No they aren't. People gang rape drunk girls all the time. Steubensville for example.

#68 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-11-06 01:25 PM | Reply

Back on topic, Journalism and Law Professors are excoriating not only ABC for what they have no admitted they did but CNN/NBC/MSNBC/CBS for refusing to cover this story:

"That there has been so little coverage about ABC avoiding the Epstein story demonstrates again that mainstream media too often make news judgment based on sociocultural or political implications rather than journalistic values," DePauw University School of Journalism professor and media critic Jeffrey McCall said in a statement.

"The traditional media surely do not like Project Veritas snooping around into their behind-the-scenes operations, but the Project Veritas videos of Amy Robach's and Jeff Zucker's comments do lend insight to the workings of these news organizations," McCall said. "The news consuming public should ponder the implications that a major broadcast news network spiked what appears to have been a newsworthy development in the Epstein situation."

"News organizations need to stop treating themselves and the journalism profession as sacred cows, and instead, acknowledge that mistakes in news judgments are sometimes made and critically assess the underlying reasons for those mistakes," McCall said.

. . .

Cornell Law professor and media critic Williams Jacobson issued a statement that Project Veritas embarrassed CNN with its recent reporting.

"In a better world, CNN would put that aside and cover the ABC News-Harvey Weinstein cover-up story uncovered by Project Veritas. But it's not a better world, and CNN appears more interested in not giving Project Veritas proper credit than in covering media malfeasance," Jacobsen said. "Given CNN's conflicted position, perhaps it should appoint an outside independent journalist to cover the story for it."

#69 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-11-06 04:39 PM | Reply

"Back on topic, Journalism and Law Professors are excoriating not only ABC for what they have no admitted they did but CNN/NBC/MSNBC/CBS for refusing to cover this story:"

Then maybe they should become jouranlists and show us how it's done.

Seriously though, why are they excoriating journalists?
It's the legal system that lets Epstein get away with this stuff. Physician, heal thyself.

This is like a mass-murderer saying "You should have stopped me! Someone should have told me murder was wrong!"

#70 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-11-06 09:34 PM | Reply

Epstein, Weinstein, any old 'Stein can get away with this behavior, provided they're rich enough to get Dream Team lawyers to make it all go away.

From an ethical standpoint, lawyers wouldn't have it any other way. Everyone is entitled to the finest legal representation money can buy. That's only fair.

#71 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-11-06 09:37 PM | Reply

Seriously though, why are they excoriating journalists?

You must have missed that quote about "It was unbelievable what we had. Clinton, we had everything."

Now if FOX news had withheld this and it was "It was unbelievable what we had. Trump, we had everything."

Seriously, I could only guess you would feel the same as you do now ...

#72 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-11-06 09:58 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Bored,

"The differences are:
Weinstein and Epstein were rich and were not up for SCOTUS."

There is one other difference and is what causes so much doubt about the claims against BK.

The 'stein's had lifestyles built around exploiting women.

BK had a proven history and lifestyle that was built on serving the common good and a family man.

#73 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2019-11-07 06:00 AM | Reply

Don't forget about Trump's rape of the 13 year old girl at Epstein's mansion. Trump's name was circled in Epstein's book.

#74 | Posted by hamburglar at 2019-11-07 08:01 AM | Reply

#72 | POSTED BY ANDREAMACKRIS

I was going to respond to his comment but your response is about perfect.

#75 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-11-07 09:52 AM | Reply

The newest development is that ABC did an internal investigation and found out who the whistle-blower was. This person now works at CBS. Reportedly, at the behest of ABC this whistleblower has been fired by CBS. So, no internal investigation into why the story was spiked. Just revenge against the person who exposed this. It's no wonder trust in the news media is at historic lows.

#76 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-11-07 12:02 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Jesus H...I haven't seen anyone on the DR get their ass handed to them as bad as DannyBoy in this thread. Likewise, I don't think I've ever seen a DR member so blind to the fact it was happening.

#77 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2019-11-07 02:30 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

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