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Wednesday, November 06, 2019

A 25-year-old New Zealand lawmaker giving a speech supporting a climate crisis bill was heckled by an older member of Parliament. Her witty response baffled her audience, to the delight of millennials everywhere.

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I'll bet it takes let than 10 posts for a boomer to post their out of touch, patronizing opinion.

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For all you boomers trying to be hip.

#1 | Posted by jpw at 2019-11-06 07:44 PM | Reply

Huh, what? Okay, pumpkin. Now go back to your video game. /s

Really I would like to defend my generation a little bit because we have still not come into the political power we should have due to the extreme degree of influence held by our parents, many of whom are still what is called alive.

#2 | Posted by grumpy_too at 2019-11-06 08:22 PM | Reply

Oof, she killed him with words.

#3 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2019-11-06 08:24 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Bernie Sanders' Green New Deal is a Game-Changer
www.commondreams.org

Finally, we have a true Declaration of War against fossil fuel pollution and global warming, a radical legislative program that can head off climate catastrophe and supercharge a just transition to a 21st Century Green Commonwealth

QFT

#4 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-11-06 08:28 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#2

If you are Gen X, like me, you will never come into political power. We are smaller than the boomer and the millenniels so just as the boomers influence wanes the millennials will step in. On the plus side we can gain influence by siding with one or the other during the transition.

#5 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2019-11-06 08:50 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

These younger Millennials -- and the even younger Generation Z kids -- give me some hope for the future.

They seem to be doing a good job of seeing that most political issues that are couched as
"right" vs. "left"
really come down to
"what's great for a privileged few" vs. "what's good for everybody."

#6 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-11-06 09:29 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 3

---- memes

#7 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-11-06 11:39 PM | Reply

The response by the 25yo, and those Millenials on this thread show why Millenials are a -------- waiting to happen.

Nothing but ad hominem attacks, which is about all JPW can muster these day.

This is ageism, plain and simple, they are mad because the facts don't align with reality, now their only retort is "Ok, Boomer" .....

Incredible..

And to be very clear I am not a Boomer.

#8 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-11-07 12:52 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Nothing but ad hominem attacks, which is about all JPW can muster these day.

Muster a post that doesn't contain at least one brazen lie and you won't have a problem with me.

This is ageism, plain and simple, they are mad because the facts don't align with reality, now their only retort is "Ok, Boomer" .....

LOL look at your resorting to identity politics because you have no argument.

And to be very clear I am not a Boomer.

#8 | Posted by AndreaMackris

You're older?

#9 | Posted by jpw at 2019-11-07 01:38 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

And to be very clear I am not a Boomer.

#8 | POSTED BY ANDREAMACKRIS

It's a meme (or, pop culture reference) successfully deployed in a real life situation. This 10 second incident isn't representative of a whole generation world wide.

#10 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2019-11-07 02:00 AM | Reply

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This 10 second incident isn't representative of a whole generation world wide.

#10 | Posted by GOnoles92

Yeah, far too many don't see the raw deal the boomers are leaving.

They drink the proverbial Kool Aid.

#11 | Posted by jpw at 2019-11-07 02:08 AM | Reply

There are old conservative rwingers and young conservative rwingers all over the world; same goes for lefties, there are both young and old.

I just hope one day the young on the left can look back at a legacy that ended a war like Vietnam by taking to the streets, and joining their parents and grandparents in the previous Greatest Generation to support that anti-war effort... and helped to usher in social justice reforms, before those recently became a bad thing; reforms like the Great Society that saved millions of lives among the old, children, and the impoverished of all sorts.

Not to mention Civil Rights, women's rights, and gay rights, so I won't mention those.

Some in my generation later sold out and supported Reagan after that, it's true, but they were the minority. The majority supported Carter and Clinton and Obama and never lost their progressive idealism.

The "OK, Boomer" thingy is cute, but it doesn't tell the whole story... which isn't really surprising from people who tend to think the story is only all about themselves.

Which is why some of the younger generations, not most, but some, would rather have a Trump in the WH if they can't get their favorite far left candidate past the voters.... because if people aren't smart enough to agree with them, then those people deserve what they get, in their opinion.

#12 | Posted by Corky at 2019-11-07 02:09 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

The "OK, Boomer" thingy is cute, but it doesn't tell the whole story... which isn't really surprising from people who tend to think the story is only all about themselves.

Speaking of patronizing...

You think the boomer's behavior in the 60s mitigates the rise of Reagan and the absolute schit show the boomers have foisted on the rest of us since then?

In aggregate, the boomer generation has been and will continue to be extremely caustic and detrimental to their children and grand children's generations.

Nothing will change that.

#13 | Posted by jpw at 2019-11-07 02:37 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 5

"If you are Gen X, like me
#5 | POSTED BY TAOWARRIOR"

As a fellow Gen X, our job is to 1.) restore a bit of sanity before the Boomers destroy us with their demands for government handouts and 2.) bring on the automation revolution as the millennial generation is incapable of working in a productive manner.

#14 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-11-07 03:32 AM | Reply

Don't cut yourself on all that edge!

#15 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-11-07 03:44 AM | Reply

"This is ageism, plain and simple, they are mad because the facts don't align with reality, now their only retort is "Ok, Boomer" ....."

Whereas this isn't ageism, plain and simple:

"2.) bring on the automation revolution as the millennial generation is incapable of working in a productive manner."

You guys are soooo clever.

#16 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-11-07 03:47 AM | Reply

"The "OK, Boomer" thingy is cute, but it doesn't tell the whole story."

It does in this case.

Or are you saying heckling legislators 40 years your junior over global warming is a good look for your generation?

#17 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-11-07 03:52 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"This 10 second incident isn't representative of a whole generation world wide."

Yes it is.
It's the whole global warming "debate" in a nutshell.
You just can't see it, since you're a global warming denier for financial reasons, and you think that's an okay thing to be.

#18 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-11-07 03:53 AM | Reply

The 1% are so determined to turn a class war into a generational war. Boomers don't want their children and grandchildren to live in world ruined by over consumption of fossil fuels. We all need to be united in our efforts to combat the right which still denies global climate change is real. Just saying "ok boomers" and then pretending that you made an intelligent comment makes the CEOs of the fossil fuel companies laugh their asses off. That is exactly what they want you to do. Point at anyone except those who are actually responsible for misleading the public all over the world so that they can make billions of dollars. This thread is idiotic and displays a willingness to point fingers at your own parents who have not done anything except try to support you, educate you, defend you, protect you. If pointing fingers at the elderly makes you feel empowered then you are pathetic.

#19 | Posted by danni at 2019-11-07 05:56 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

" '"This 10 second incident isn't representative of a whole generation world wide.'

Yes it is.
It's the whole global warming "debate" in a nutshell.
You just can't see it, since you're a global warming denier for financial reasons, and you think that's an okay thing to be.
#18 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-11-07 03:53 AM"

Given the results of this recent poll, it would seem there's actually little (aka "significant") difference between the generations amongst Democrats. OTOH, there are large differences between generations within the GOP and even greater differences between the GOP and Democrats (in general), either as a group or individual groups.

climatecommunication.yale.edu

#20 | Posted by TrueBlue at 2019-11-07 07:27 AM | Reply

"Oof, she killed him with words."

Agreed. That was awesome.

"On the plus side we can gain influence by siding with one or the other during the transition."

Same here. Choose wisely.

"---- memes" #7 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS

Okay boomer.

"The 1% are so determined to turn a class war into a generational war."

Your mistake is in assuming both aren't happening.

#21 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2019-11-07 07:50 AM | Reply

#19 | Posted by danni

Thread is not idiotic, and the millennials have a point. Surprised by your totally "boomer" response.

#22 | Posted by Angrydad at 2019-11-07 07:51 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Millenials: Their hubris is only matched by their ignorance.

#23 | Posted by visitor_ at 2019-11-07 07:57 AM | Reply

25 year old 1960

Whites only. Blacks only.

25 year old 1990

Anyone can reside here, sit here, drink from this fountain, use this bathroom.

25 year old 2019
Segregation is good.

#24 | Posted by Petrous at 2019-11-07 08:03 AM | Reply

25 year old in 1960

Sticks and Stones, but I will fight to be free to speak.

25 year old in 1990

I hate you. Deal with it.

25 year old in 2019
Oooh, your words frighten me. Amend the US Constitution to outlaw hate speech.

#25 | Posted by Petrous at 2019-11-07 08:05 AM | Reply

"Thread is not idiotic, and the millennials have a point. Surprised by your totally "boomer" response."

Thread is idiotic. Any time you try to turn class war into generational war you are falling for what the 1% want you to believe. Instead why not look at the group who has all the money? Who profited hugely from fossil fuels? Who actually suppressed information about global climate change and who still are? I can understand their anger towards people like Donald Trump, yes he's a boomer but he is still denying global climate change and actually weakening the EPA and our laws designed to mitigate the damage it is doing to our environment but I just don't feel that I, or anyone like me, should just be lumped in with him just because we are from the same generation. That is weak minded thinking, it somewhat diminishes the solidarity we need to combat such leaders. Neither the Millenials nor the Boomers can win elections and make change without all ages participating and uniting.

Then this:
"You think the boomer's behavior in the 60s mitigates the rise of Reagan and the absolute schit show the boomers have foisted on the rest of us since then?"

Does anyone who posts here despise Reagan more than I do? Secondly, one good thing we did under Reagan was double our SS taxes so that we created the SS Trust Fund, for the first time in history, so that we funded our own retirements and paid for the retirements of our parents so that you wouldn't have to pay for our retirements like we needed to do for our parents' generation.
You shouldn't run your mouth so much, you don't really know very much.

#26 | Posted by danni at 2019-11-07 08:15 AM | Reply

Does anyone collect more SS than they put in?

#27 | Posted by Petrous at 2019-11-07 08:30 AM | Reply

Who profited from fossil fuels?

Everyone.

#28 | Posted by visitor_ at 2019-11-07 08:30 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

OK, boomer.

#29 | Posted by qcp at 2019-11-07 08:59 AM | Reply

Instead why not look at the group who has all the money?

Sure.

www.businessinsider.com

We've been screwed by boomers. So while some of us will get an inheritance that can put us on a more stable path, a significant portion won't and those that do will likely use it to pay off loans from the over-priced college run by boomers or finally buy a home decades later than their boomer parents were able to do so.

But that's just on an individual or household basis. We'll have to clean up the government budget and debt mess, SS and entitlement mess, college cost mess etc etc etc.

#30 | Posted by jpw at 2019-11-07 09:28 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

but I just don't feel that I, or anyone like me, should just be lumped in with him just because we are from the same generation. That is weak minded thinking,

What's weak minded thinking is your immediate defensive posturing.

Shut off the personal feelings for a second and look at generational comparisons. The raw numbers paint a very clear picture.

#31 | Posted by jpw at 2019-11-07 09:29 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"Does anyone collect more SS than they put in?"

Most recipients of SS Disability do but I think the rest of us collect according to our incomes during our working lives and the taxes paid in, I suspect though that those who live longer than average probably do collect more than they paid in.

#32 | Posted by danni at 2019-11-07 09:30 AM | Reply

"We've been screwed by boomers. So while some of us will get an inheritance that can put us on a more stable path, a significant portion won't and those that do will likely use it to pay off loans from the over-priced college run by boomers or finally buy a home decades later than their boomer parents were able to do so."

I tire of hearing complaining by people who are of legal voting age, who can run for office or just support one of the candidates campaigning to fix the very things you complain about. I will be. And, I have kids some of whom never graduated from college, who inherited nothing but who are employed home owners because they work very hard and have learned skills that are in demand.

#33 | Posted by danni at 2019-11-07 09:33 AM | Reply

You shouldn't run your mouth so much, you don't really know very much.

#26 | POSTED BY DANNI

You had this talking point B slapped out of your mouth not too long ago.

www.investopedia.com

Most Boomers have little or no retirement savings.

And poor boomer governance has ensured that SS needs to be fixed again because there isn't enough money in it to float the boomers.

#34 | Posted by jpw at 2019-11-07 09:35 AM | Reply

Blaming Boomers for the greed of the 1% is a losing argument with me.

"The famous criminal Willie Sutton was once asked why he robbed banks, and his response was simple, eloquent, and humorous:

Because that's where the money is."

Go after the people who have all the money, that ain't me.

#35 | Posted by danni at 2019-11-07 09:35 AM | Reply

Yeah yeah I know Danni.

I keep foolishly forgetting to ask about your kids as a barometer for reality. Silly me!

#36 | Posted by jpw at 2019-11-07 09:36 AM | Reply

"And poor boomer governance has ensured that SS needs to be fixed again because there isn't enough money in it to float the boomers."

Simply not true though that is what the 1% want you to believe to justify their tax cuts. You really are gullible.

"One of the ugliest tropes in American politics is to say "Social Security is going broke." Although there are structural funding problems with the system, to say that the nation's most successful annuity program is going bust is a lie. It can be fixed and only politics blocks a reasonable remedy.

But that didn't stop dozens of Fox News outlets from proclaiming otherwise. They got their facts wrong and wanted to scare people without providing context."

www.forbes.com

The fix is the same one applied when Reagan was President; raise the amount of income subject to SS taxes. That won't burden Millenials, no, it will make the rich pay a higher amount. I think it is limited to income of only about $106,000.00 per year, raise it to $5,000,000 or take away the cap entirely. Then SS is solvent forever and it wouldn't cost you a dime more.

#37 | Posted by danni at 2019-11-07 09:39 AM | Reply

"I keep foolishly forgetting to ask about your kids as a barometer for reality. Silly me!"

They've had their ups and downs too but they learned not to blame my generation for their own problems. Don't worry, you will too. You'll be miserable if you continue to blame your parents and their generation and it won't solve anything. The problem is the 1%, that is what we need to deal with. That is who Boomrs like Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren know we need to do. We need to return to an economy with taxation at pre-Reagan levels.

#38 | Posted by danni at 2019-11-07 09:42 AM | Reply

And poor boomer governance has ensured that SS needs to be fixed again because there isn't enough money in it to float the boomers - jpw.

In all kindness and fairness, I suggest you try to understand how government deals with SS surplus.

You well see Clinton surpluses were fraudulent.

Then you will understand it never has "money in it". Any surplus, eventually becomes double taxation, because we are running deficits.

Boomers didn't cause this problem.

#39 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-11-07 10:03 AM | Reply

#39 OK boomer

#40 | Posted by JOE at 2019-11-07 10:13 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

"You know why they're called Baby Boomers, right? Because the tiniest little pinprick to their ego and boom! They become babies."

- Bad Janet, The Good Place

#41 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2019-11-07 10:35 AM | Reply | Funny: 3

The post-boomer generations has been gifted with the one of, if not, the most prosperous, freest, technology-advanced civilization in the history of the human race, and all they can do is cry and demand more free stuff. If they can't build upon their inheritance they deserve to go the way rich kids who squander their inheritance: bankrupt.

#42 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-11-07 10:45 AM | Reply

As a Gen-Xer

- Boomers did a lot of great things for this country and in their own way were a version of Millennials. They also own some really terrible ones as well that have resulted in where we are at now. I honestly think the worst of it can be traced back to their ignorant treatment of our troops during Vietnam. They also let Congress raid the Social Security System but putting the money in the General Fund. The rise of Lobbyists and St. Reagan. Allowing money into Politics. Boomers could have stopped all this at any point. They didn't.

- Millennials have a lot of it right IMHO - it's how to get there I don't think they are prepared for. The problem is their lack of experience and wisdom - knowing what I know now as I approach 50 is they would all have to be pulling together to move the mountains in place and they are not doing it. Utopias are folly and that is what most of them want because that is how in large part most of them went through school. The "Everyone Gets a Prize" Generation. MOST didn't learn through adversity they were sheltered and medicated. Researchers have them as 10 years behind developmentally and I see it in dealing with them. The fact is we live in a harsh world were you mostly have to work hard and have some luck to succeed. The influencer generation doesn't get that for the most part.

Millennials should not be dismissed nor should Boomers. There is good and bad in both. The elders should be doing what they can to help Millennials learn and take their place. I know I try.

#43 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2019-11-07 10:45 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#41 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine

I saw that one and LMAO.

#44 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2019-11-07 10:47 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

f they can't build upon their inheritance they deserve to go the way rich kids who squander their inheritance: bankrupt.
#42 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN

QFT! Millenials are TrustFund babies!

#45 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-11-07 10:47 AM | Reply

The post-boomer generations has been gifted with the one of, if not, the most prosperous, freest, technology-advanced civilization in the history of the human race, and all they can do is cry

I see you crying every single day, boomer.

#46 | Posted by JOE at 2019-11-07 10:49 AM | Reply

"Millenials are TrustFund babies!"

~Mackris, looking in his mirror

#47 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-11-07 10:50 AM | Reply

I want to apologize to the youth for not leaving a them a perfect world. Sorry, my bad.

#48 | Posted by visitor_ at 2019-11-07 10:54 AM | Reply

Does anyone seriously doubt but that there is a generational aspect to MMGW denial? Older people worried about their own financial well being are far more skeptical than young people who are not yet so fully invested in our capitalist society.

#49 | Posted by moder8 at 2019-11-07 11:21 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

70% of Americans age 18 to 34 worry about global warming. This compares with 62% of those 35 to 54 and 56% who are 55 or older.
news.gallup.com

#50 | Posted by JOE at 2019-11-07 11:26 AM | Reply

The post-boomer generations has been gifted with the one of, if not, the most prosperous, freest, technology-advanced civilization in the history of the human race, and all they can do is cry and demand more free stuff. If they can't build upon their inheritance they deserve to go the way rich kids who squander their inheritance: bankrupt.

#42 | Posted by nullifidian

If you want to be taken seriously you should offer more than a non sequitur, a caricature and lies.

#51 | Posted by jpw at 2019-11-07 11:34 AM | Reply

--that there is a generational aspect to MMGW denial?

Well if you've seen decades of environmental apocalyptic predictions come and go, you might be skeptical. I attended the first Earth Day events in 1970. Global cooling was all the rage in those days. People would soon be wearing gas masks in cities, most essential metals and minerals would be depleted, peak oil would stop economic growth, billions would starve due to population growth, etc.

#52 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-11-07 11:37 AM | Reply

"One of the ugliest tropes in American politics is to say "Social Security is going broke." Although there are structural funding problems with the system, to say that the nation's most successful annuity program is going bust is a lie. It can be fixed and only politics blocks a reasonable remedy.

I don't think you understood what you posted because it says exactly what I said and have said on other threads.

SS as is is in trouble. It needs to be adjusted and changed to remain healthy long term.

The boomers refuse to budge on any action.

Decreased benefits? Nope.

Increased FICA tax or raise the cap? Nope.

Increase age at which full benefits are available? Nope.

Means test to adjust benefits? Nope.

So the can is just kicked further down the road because nobody now can be bothered to sacrifice to make it work. Somebody else is expected to after the problem has grown too large to address by more modest approaches.

#53 | Posted by jpw at 2019-11-07 11:38 AM | Reply

Boomers didn't cause this problem.

#39 | Posted by AndreaMackris

I didn't say they caused it.

But they've certainly perpetuated it for their own gains.

#54 | Posted by jpw at 2019-11-07 11:39 AM | Reply

QFT! Millenials are TrustFund babies!

#45 | Posted by AndreaMackris

QFT?

LOL

Something like 30% of boomers have enough saved to retire comfortably. Most have $0-$10,000 saved.

The vast majority of millenials will get pennies as an "inheritance". Probably a house that needs more in upgrades than the home is worth.

#55 | Posted by jpw at 2019-11-07 11:41 AM | Reply

Well if you've seen decades of environmental apocalyptic predictions come and go, you might be skeptical

Translation: One aspect of science was wrong that one time so i will never believe science again

This is actually the beauty of science- it never stops questioning itself and is constantly being improved upon. This is literally the opposite of what you are doing, closing your mind like a trap door once you find something that turned out not to be correct.

#56 | Posted by JOE at 2019-11-07 11:42 AM | Reply

Millennials should have been dropped off naked in the North woods with a pamphlet on how to make stone tools and fire when they turned 18. Perhaps then they'd see that they don't have it so bad.

#57 | Posted by visitor_ at 2019-11-07 11:42 AM | Reply

#57 Is that what the parents of boomers did to them?

#58 | Posted by JOE at 2019-11-07 11:46 AM | Reply

Uneducated millenials aren't old enough, and haven't been taught, the hideous track record of apocalyptic environmentalists.

remodernreview.files.wordpress.com

#59 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-11-07 11:47 AM | Reply

Well, if anything will convince me that the five-sigma level of confidence in MMGW is a farce, it's a wordpress link.

#60 | Posted by JOE at 2019-11-07 11:49 AM | Reply

You should just go full boomer and link me to Ray's website.

#61 | Posted by JOE at 2019-11-07 11:51 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#58 No. But then for the most part the Boomers weren't quite so whiny, entitled and ungrateful.

#62 | Posted by visitor_ at 2019-11-07 11:52 AM | Reply

#62 That's because relatively unimpeded economic growth, cheap housing, real wage increases and less inequality than exists today during their prime earning decades gave them everything they wanted and then some.

If Boomers had to suffer through real wage stagnation there probably would have been a general strike. I actually admire boomers' ability to whine so loudly that they get their way, and i wish my own generation was as pissy as you are.

#63 | Posted by JOE at 2019-11-07 11:55 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Translation: One aspect of science was wrong that one time so i will never believe science again

I doubt he's even talking about what actual scientists were saying.

He's probably repeating predictions by more extreme groups that weren't using science to inform their views.

#64 | Posted by jpw at 2019-11-07 11:57 AM | Reply

But then for the most part the Boomers weren't quite so whiny, entitled and ungrateful.

#62 | Posted by visitor_

LOL

#65 | Posted by jpw at 2019-11-07 11:58 AM | Reply

--it's a wordpress link.

That's just a short listing of false, apocalyptic predictions printed in major media during the last 50 years, you ignorant dumbschitt.

#66 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-11-07 12:04 PM | Reply

Translation: One aspect of science was wrong that one time so i will never believe science again

Science is a process, this is why you fail so hard.

I doubt he's even talking about what actual scientists were saying.

Sure they were, "scientists" were predicting global cooling, global warming .. now global "climate change".

And here's the kicker ... ALL FOR MORE FUNDING....

He's probably repeating predictions by more extreme groups that weren't using science to inform their views.

Extreme groups? What are you talking about? Mainstream MMGW dictates you believe in global catastrophe or you are a heretic, even had threads removed from the DR which were moderate views of GW.

Unless of course you are moving your goalposts ...

#67 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-11-07 12:04 PM | Reply

Science is a process, this is why you fail so hard.

I laid that out in my post. Can you read?

#68 | Posted by JOE at 2019-11-07 12:11 PM | Reply

Science is a process, this is why you fail so hard.

That's a harsh thing to say about Nulli.

Sure they were, "scientists" were predicting global cooling, global warming .. now global "climate change".

And here's the kicker ... ALL FOR MORE FUNDING....

Ummm no.

www.realclimate.org

And you clearly don't know how funding in science works.

In fact, and I'm going out on a limb here, you don't seem to know how science in general works.

Unless of course you are moving your goalposts ...

I'm referring to the historical examples Nulli uses. You're talking about current, albeit poorly and with your own bias inserted quite blatantly.

In any case, this isn't a thread about climate change.

#69 | Posted by jpw at 2019-11-07 12:12 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

So she got heckled and then complimented the heckler?

#70 | Posted by humtake at 2019-11-07 12:14 PM | Reply

--This is actually the beauty of science- it never stops questioning itself

That's more horseschitt. Highly qualified climate scientists are being deplatformed, denied tenure, and shouted dowm for showing any skepticism of catastrophic global warming.

www.city-journal.org

#71 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-11-07 12:14 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

It wasn't all unicorns and candy. Read about the late 1960's and 1970's. The boomers span a great deal of time. Early boomers and late boomers grew up in very different worlds.

#72 | Posted by visitor_ at 2019-11-07 12:15 PM | Reply

#71 | Posted by nullifidian

LOL you expect us to take a piece seriously when it's titled "Climate Stalinism"?

Author must be a friend of yours...

#73 | Posted by jpw at 2019-11-07 12:18 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Highly qualified climate scientists are being deplatformed, denied tenure, and shouted dowm for showing any skepticism of catastrophic global warming.

Considering we're at a five sigma level of confidence in MMGW, i would expect and demand that any institution worth a schitt would deplatform, deny tenure, and shout down any "scientist" who claims otherwise.

#74 | Posted by JOE at 2019-11-07 12:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

"The post-boomer generations has been gifted with the one of, if not, the most prosperous, freest, technology-advanced civilization in the history of the human race"

"the most prosperous"

Since 1975, practically all the gains in household income have gone to the top 20% of households.

OK Boomer.

#75 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-11-07 12:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

We destroyed the housing market to make sure Millennials have to get off their entitled asses and fight for something.

#76 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2019-11-07 12:22 PM | Reply

"And here's the kicker ... ALL FOR MORE FUNDING...."

Andrea, a mattress is disappointed to live in a world where scientists don't work for free.

Thanks, Capitalism!

#77 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-11-07 12:24 PM | Reply

The notion of either Boomers or Millenials claiming to have had it tougher than the other is laughable. The Greatest Generation created an economic juggernaut that ensuing generations of Americans have been living in ever since. Keep in mind it was the Boomer generation that gave us Yuppie culture. And it is the Millenials generation with their digital phone appendages who similarly entitled to everything at the cost of nothing. You are all spoiled brats. At least the Millenials are more honest and concerned about what is happening to our planet.

#78 | Posted by moder8 at 2019-11-07 02:32 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

I still don't see millennials+ in the streets creating a legacy of change. No "4 dead in Ohio" shot to death as students by National Guardsmen as they protested the war. No dead civil rights workers in Mississippi. None being massacred by the Klan and neo-Nazis in Greensboro.

None of their heroes assassinated in the streets like President John F. Kennedy(D), civil rights leader Martin Luther King, or Democratic Party candidate Robert Kennedy(D), all killed for their beliefs while representing the People.

As I noted in #12, they were not later able to overcome the corporate interests, and some, a minority, even joined them to support their families and careers. But that failure is at least somewhat offset by the things they did accomplish in leveling the playing field for all Americans, at least for a time in some things, and other freedoms and support that young people now take for granted... or don't even realize that young people actually protested and some died for civil rights, women's rights, gay rights, and the anti-war movement.

I'm not saying the new gens need to shed blood for their causes, but they need to forget the past failures they use as excuses and focus on the accomplishments in an effort to advance them further using the same tactics of street demonstrations and supporting policies that might actually become law rather than holding onto policies that won't and blaming their parents for everything that they didn't accomplish and never appreciating what they did accomplish.

#79 | Posted by Corky at 2019-11-07 02:48 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"No "4 dead in Ohio" shot to death as students by National Guardsmen as they protested the war."

What a weird critique, that Millennials aren't getting murdered by the pigs enough for you to like them...

#80 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-11-07 02:50 PM | Reply

I attended the first Earth Day events in 1970. Global cooling was all the rage in those days.

#52 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN

Since the earliest I have seen millenials defined as is "born after 1981", I can ASSURE YOU it was not millenials who were giving those predictions.

It was... you guessed it... BOOMERS!

Good job showing how, in a thread about how boomers are patronizing and full of themselves, boomers were also hysterical early on when they had very little well analyzed data. But, now you have millenials starting to make the predictions, and we actually know how to use science. So, maybe you should try to pull away from your hysterical roots (in your case, hysterical denial of facts and science) and stop being so emotional about it. Learn how science actually works. Then you might actually learn to have some faith in it. And, learn how to tell the difference between good science and bad science (since you are so old and set in your ways, you apparently think that ALL science is bad science, since you encountered some early in your life when you were too stupid to be able to tell the difference).

#81 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2019-11-07 03:03 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I still don't see millennials+ in the streets creating a legacy of change.

Because they don't whine as loudly as boomers, who inexplicably then call millenials whiners.

No "4 dead in Ohio" shot to death as students by National Guardsmen as they protested the war.

Millennials are killed by cops for no reason instead.

#82 | Posted by JOE at 2019-11-07 03:05 PM | Reply

If you don't realize that millennials are being shot dead by cops in record numbers, you just aren't paying any attention.

#83 | Posted by moder8 at 2019-11-07 03:08 PM | Reply

"I attended the first Earth Day events in 1970. Global cooling was all the rage in those days.
#52 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN"

Do you mean fear of a nuclear winter, as you hazily remember things in your stupor?

#84 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-11-07 03:08 PM | Reply

"I still don't see millennials+ in the streets creating a legacy of change."

Back in 2003, when our nation saw some of the largest protests it's ever seen over the forthcoming Iraq War,

Do you think they were protesting Boomers foreign policy, enjoined by Clinton, or not?

#85 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-11-07 03:10 PM | Reply

Funny thing is Millenials have been mocked and ridiculed by Boomers for as long as any of them have been adults, probably earlier, but one effective meme surfaces in their defense and Boomers feel attacked and offended.

Even funnier, or at least hypocritical, is that if memes were a thing in the 60s this is exactly the type of sentiment they would have hurled at their parents.

#okboomer
#snowflakes

#86 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2019-11-07 03:13 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#80

What selective editing... almost like it is intellectually dishonest. Try not editing out the last paragraph, slick. Your focus is still on the failures, not the very significant accomplishments.

#85

I think that is an example of them doing what I suggest... too bad it doesn't happen more often.

Maybe something like the 1968 Dem Convention would be appropriate.

#87 | Posted by Corky at 2019-11-07 03:17 PM | Reply

--t was not millenials who were giving those predictions.

It was... you guessed it... BOOMERS!"

Sorry, but Always-Wrong Paul Ehrlich is not a boomer. Nor is NASA scientist S.I. Rasool.

realclimatescience.com

realclimatescience.com

#88 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-11-07 03:20 PM | Reply

The thing is, and Danni is correct about this, as I said in #12, there are right and left, good and bad, accomplishments and failures in every gen. Blaming gens is red herring; a distraction usually from one's own failures.

I've never blamed the more recent gens, or demeaned them. I have offered historic illustrations of what can be accomplished and how.

My only child is of the millennial gen, and she is the best person I know.

#89 | Posted by Corky at 2019-11-07 03:23 PM | Reply

"I'm not saying the new gens need to shed blood for their causes"

David Hogg on line two, -------.

#90 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-11-07 03:25 PM | Reply

#88

Dulli and the Insignificant Outliers... sounds like a really bad garage band of climate change deniers.

#91 | Posted by Corky at 2019-11-07 03:27 PM | Reply

- -------.

Methinks he is defensive too much. One example of the spirit of an entire gen of political protest and sacrifice is a start, I guess.

#92 | Posted by Corky at 2019-11-07 03:29 PM | Reply

"Methinks he is defensive too much."

Your arm is so worn out after patting Jane Fonda on the back, that kids like Hogg get nothing from you.

#93 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-11-07 03:31 PM | Reply

#93

Sorry to see that you have some unresolved gen issues. I complement Hogg for representing the spirit of the gen of the 60's and 70's and you find that insulting. Which means you are really having to try hard to be offended.

Jane Fonda crossed a line, but it was in response to a lot of deadly line crossing on the other side. If that's all you've got, then you are sounding a little desperate.

I still say that these are not gen issues, they are issues that all gens have to deal with; particularly economic and social inequality built into the System.

To claim that one is or has dealt with it better and focusing on the failures rather than exploiting the tactics of the accomplishments isn't helpful at all.

#94 | Posted by Corky at 2019-11-07 03:41 PM | Reply

"I still say that these are not gen issues, they are issues that all gens have to deal with; particularly economic and social inequality built into the System."

Then you're missing it, and the main complaint of Millennials... and those even younger, who can see it even more starkly.

The income inequality built into the system "Since 1975" gives rise to a generational issue.

#95 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-11-07 03:45 PM | Reply

Boomers gave us Trump.

www.forbes.com

That, alone, is an indictment of their generation that they deserve to wear around their neck for the rest of time.

#96 | Posted by JOE at 2019-11-07 03:46 PM | Reply

#86 seems a little harsh to label a whole generation in permanent marker for one last, dying grasp at perpetuating White Privilege...

You've heard this one before I'm sure; the punchline goes "But do they call me a bricklayer?"

#97 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-11-07 03:49 PM | Reply

--Jane Fonda crossed a line,

These days she's promising to fight global warming by making the ultimate sacrifice: not purchasing any new clothes.

#98 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-11-07 03:50 PM | Reply

I've never blamed the more recent gens, or demeaned them.

#89 | POSTED BY CORKY

But a lot of them have. This thread is a perfect example. She responded "Ok, Boomer" to heckling ABOUT HER AGE (generation) and all the little boomer snowflakes have their panties in a bunch.

You have people like Danni saying that their generation is soooo awesome because they put a bunch of (worthless) IOUs in a box and called it a "trust fund".

I think this thread may have actually been started (though not sure) because I responded "Ok, Boomer" to another thread about "8 in 10 Millenials believe they aren't 'good enough'" that was titled "8 in 10 Millenials Correct" (by our local rat).

drudge.com

And before that I responded "Ok, Boomer" to this gem from pinch...

Yeah, some British kid who was in junior high school when Bill Clinton left office? Hilarious ~
#25 | POSTED BY PINCHALOAF

drudge.com

It is generally boomers who start the attacks (about millenials not voting, or being "entitled", or being "lazy", or "ruining napkins"). But you point out some of their generation's (many) negatives in response and you get a snowflake meltdown like you see in this thread.

Memes go viral because people can relate to them. And this meme is viral because most millenials can relate to having boomers be patronizing -------- to them. So, we will return it in kind. If you can't handle it, go find a safe space.

#99 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2019-11-07 03:54 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Jane Fonda crossed a line."

Understatement of the year. She committed treason and should have been shot. The only thing she's good for is urinal targets at most American Legion posts.

#100 | Posted by willowby at 2019-11-07 04:07 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

And Trump committed treason and should be shot. He has sold out America to Russia, Saudi Arabia and other countries just to earn a few dollars more. Prosecute. Convict. Shoot him in the head.

#101 | Posted by moder8 at 2019-11-07 04:09 PM | Reply

#101

Another Hanoi Jane defender. Amazing

#102 | Posted by willowby at 2019-11-07 04:14 PM | Reply

#102

Another Treason Trump defender. Amazing.

#103 | Posted by moder8 at 2019-11-07 04:23 PM | Reply

#103

Wrong, idiot. I defy you to point out where I have ever defended Trump

#104 | Posted by willowby at 2019-11-07 04:26 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

GenX, so I think they both suck.

#105 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2019-11-07 04:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"And this meme is viral because most millennials can relate to having boomers be patronizing -------- to them."

For the Boomers that don't get it, here is an assortment of Blame Millennial Clickbait Headlines, some of which have been posted here by Nullifidian and Andrea, a mattress:

This chart is proof that millennials are destroying the beer industry
How Millennials (Almost) Killed the Wine Cork
Mow millennials are destroying the tuxedo business
Millennials are killing the napkin industry
Millennials want money, but not hard work
How Millennials Killed Mayonnaise

See for yourself: www.google.com

#106 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-11-07 04:28 PM | Reply

"I defy you to point out where I have ever defended Trump
#104 | POSTED BY WILLOWBY"

Here you go:

Blow it out your ---, clown. This is about the border jumpers. Once they've done that, they have no right to seek asylum. If they want to go to a port of entry instead of sneaking across the border to seek asylum, I don't have a problem with that.
#25 | POSTED BY WILLOWBY
drudge.com

#107 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-11-07 04:30 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#107

Being against illegal aliens is defending Trump? I knew you were stupid, but not a blithering idiot.

#108 | Posted by willowby at 2019-11-07 04:33 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#104: And I defy you to point out where I ever defended Jane Fonda.

#109 | Posted by moder8 at 2019-11-07 04:34 PM | Reply

#109

Your deflection/whataboutism was the defense.

#110 | Posted by willowby at 2019-11-07 04:37 PM | Reply

"Being against illegal aliens is defending Trump?"

For you it is.
You're more than "against illegal aliens."
You're in favor of treating them very harshly.
You support what Trump is doing, and in fact you wish he would be even more cruel.

Do you really deny it? Don't be that guy. Don't be a weaselly little liar, Willowby.

#111 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-11-07 04:41 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Didn't someone used to call this guy "Pillowbitey?"

#112 | Posted by JOE at 2019-11-07 04:45 PM | Reply

#111

You ARE a blithering idiot. A liar as well.

#113 | Posted by willowby at 2019-11-07 04:45 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#112

Yes. That other DR genius, reinheitsgebot.

#114 | Posted by willowby at 2019-11-07 04:47 PM | Reply

They're all radical morons. I have no choice but to vote for Trump. Didn't vote for him the first time, I usually vote Libertarian. I figured Hillary was a slam dunk. This time, I have to use my vote to keep any of these far left idiots out.
POSTED BY WILLOWBY AT 2019-09-13 01:10 AM
drudge.com

OK Boomer.

#115 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-11-07 04:51 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

78% of the farmers say the trade war will ultimately benefit American farmers. This trade showdown with communist China should have been done years ago. We need to stay the course until we get fair trade. Communist China has been ripping us off for years.
POSTED BY WILLOWBY AT 2019-08-17 08:24 PM
drudge.com

How on earth can you pretend this doesn't support Trump?
???

#116 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-11-07 04:53 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#115

Nice try, blithering idiot. Not a defense, but a surrender. I knew you would try and use that post. Keep looking.

#117 | Posted by willowby at 2019-11-07 04:55 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

You'll need Hans to dig further, Trumper.

#118 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-11-07 04:57 PM | Reply

I like how you said you were going to vote for Trump, though.
Apparently, you said that just so you could trick me months later!
It's like when G-d put the fossils in the ground to trick you.
It's like when blacks die on purpose from a choke hold to make pigs like you look bad.

#119 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-11-07 04:59 PM | Reply

People have been saying since long before Trump became president that we need to crack down on illegal immigration and China's economic crimes.

That doesn't automatically make those people Trump supporters.

If Trump all of a sudden started stumping for M4A that wouldn't make you a Trump supporter, Snoofy, even though it's a policy you favor.

#120 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-11-07 05:03 PM | Reply

Poor blithering idiot snoofy, lashing out. Let hans have a go at it. You're apparently too dumb to know the definition of defending.

#121 | Posted by willowby at 2019-11-07 05:05 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Willowby,

FYI - Snoofy is a consumate troll. He loves straw men and really bad equivalencies. He also likes to pepper people with inane questions.

I usually ignore him when he gets like this.

#122 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-11-07 05:05 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"If Trump all of a sudden started stumping for M4A that wouldn't make you a Trump supporter, Snoofy, even though it's a policy you favor."

It would if I said, "I will be voting for Trump since M4A matters that much to me."

Then I'd be a Trump supporter.

You ------- moron.

#123 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-11-07 05:07 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"You're apparently too dumb to know the definition of defending."

So, when you defend something, that's not lending support to the thing you're defending?
Like when you swore to uphold and defend the Constitution, you're not supporting the Constitution?

Stupid isn't a good look for you, pig.

#124 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-11-07 05:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#122

You're right, jeff. Every time snoofy is exposed as being dumber than a box of rocks, he goes on a name calling tirade.

#125 | Posted by willowby at 2019-11-07 05:13 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

For somebody who really comes across as not that smart, Willowby sure spends a lot of time accusing other people of being stupid. Coincidence?

#126 | Posted by moder8 at 2019-11-07 05:25 PM | Reply

Now that I'm reading up on it, I'm Gen-X, so, up yours Boomers!

#127 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2019-11-07 05:37 PM | Reply

Sounds stupid Moder8

#128 | Posted by Petrous at 2019-11-07 05:57 PM | Reply

You should just go full boomer and link me to Ray's website.

Posted by JOE

He wears out his Amazon account buying gold tin foil for his hats

www.amazon.com

#129 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-11-07 05:57 PM | Reply

The Boomers time has come.

They're starting to die of natural causes.

#130 | Posted by Tor at 2019-11-07 06:19 PM | Reply

Here I am a millennial, and now whenever I tell the 14 year old to do anything she says, "OK Boomer". It was funny the first time.

#131 | Posted by horstngraben at 2019-11-07 06:27 PM | Reply

Gen Xer here:

Boomers are the worst generation our nation has ever seen.

They opened the door to the profligate spending, drugs, sexual liberation and the accompanying STDs and abortion that have harmed our nation greatly.

They started and/or ran the schools and sports programs and more that educated, babysat, coached, trained and parented the succeeding generations. If millennials suck, this is what THEY produced (mostly them, just a smattering of Gen Xers did the above)!!!!

The PARENTS wanted the participation trophies! They bought them and handed em out!

Stop shotting on millennials and iGen/Gen Z, stop thinking you'll clone yourself and take some ownership, Boomers!

#132 | Posted by drivelikejehu at 2019-11-07 07:03 PM | Reply

- the main complaint of Millennials.

And here I thought they were the ones always being blamed. Come to thinks of it, I've never heard comparable whining about Boomers... oh, wait, yes I have, quite a bit of it here.

There's plenty of blame to go around in each gen... the same cannot be said for comparable accomplishments of some gens that should be acknowledged, studied for successful tactics, and furthered by newer gens... which is the point you keep missing.

#133 | Posted by Corky at 2019-11-07 07:30 PM | Reply

- take some ownership

Of the anti-war movement per Vietman, the Great Society reforms, Civil Rights legislation, women's right, gay rights... sure thing.

Then there's the list of accomplishments by millennials.... wait, I had it here somewhere...

#134 | Posted by Corky at 2019-11-07 07:33 PM | Reply

This 10 second incident isn't representative of a whole generation world wide.

#10 | POSTED BY GONOLES92

True dat.

That rule only applies to Liberals.

#135 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-11-07 07:48 PM | Reply

This 10 second incident isn't representative of a whole generation world wide.

#10 | POSTED BY BROCK TURNER

#136 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-11-07 07:52 PM | Reply

Sorry boomers, but your generation has earned the hatred it is going to receive from the younger generations. And it's just getting started.

You were the ones who benefited from america's most prosperous times, and instead of using that wealth to create a just and sustainable society, you rigged the game to give the maximum benefit for yourselves, then pulled the ladder up behind you, screwing everyone to come later.

You let the education system crumble into a joke. Same with infrastructure. You mastered the art of getting rich without contributing anything to society, with buildings full of geniuses coming up with "financial products" and fine print designed to trap and screw the ignorant, instead of using their brains to actually better the world. You let the rich capture all the economic gains, while the workers struggle and stress more and more just to survive.

You let corporations ship jobs overseas to countries with no worker or environmental standards, forcing americans to compete against people who live in huts.

You turned america into an overly armed police state where the cops are paranoid about getting shot so they just shoot first.

You fought against climate science and clean energy to the point where it is not too late to avoid damage. You demonized taxes to the point that your kids will be left with your gigantic national credit card bill.

You altered the food supply so that it makes people sick, gets people hooked on sugar and salt, and contains minimal nutrition. Smarter european countries wont even allow the import of the crap we call "food".

You waged an idiotic war on drugs and locked up millions of peaceful people. You started 2 pointless wars overseas.

Of course this is NOT ALL of you, but it was enough of you to allow it to happen, and the rest of you let it happen. Dont whine that people are starting to hate you for it.

#137 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-11-07 08:10 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Oh and you elected a moronic con man, criminal, and russian puppet. And you still LOVE him.

#138 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-11-07 08:12 PM | Reply

"You were the ones who benefited from america's most prosperous times"

Until minorities started getting in on the prosperity. Then there was a fairly obvious, predictable white backlash to protect white privilege.

Ask Danni where Reagan kicked off his 1980 campaign if you still require clarification.

#139 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-11-07 08:14 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

See Also: Southern Strategy.

#140 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-11-07 08:14 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I thought i was a boomer but by some definitions I'm gen x. So now boomers and millenials are the worst. Just awful people.

#141 | Posted by visitor_ at 2019-11-07 09:42 PM | Reply

> literally who NZ politician pulls out internet maymay
> this is news somehow

generational divide and conquer. Boomers went through the alpha test version of the much more refined propaganda to which gen-x (xoomers?), millennials, and gen z (zoomers) have been exposed. We kiddos (millennials and younger) have the antiseptic benefit of the internet, the information-sharing value of which is helping some of us to rescue ourselves from the relentless leftist propaganda to which we've been exposed pretty much from birth. It's tempting but too easy to blame boomers for all of the ills of leftists' century-long march through the institutions, starting with the Bolsheviks.

#142 | Posted by berserkone at 2019-11-07 10:31 PM | Reply

>It's tempting but too easy to blame boomers for all of the ills of leftists' century-long march through the institutions, starting with the Bolsheviks.
marination in leftist ideas for a few decades prior to WWII, but the leftist brainwashing kicked into high gear especially after our communist-sympathizing government locked arms with Uncle Joe, and went off the scales after the war.

#143 | Posted by berserkone at 2019-11-07 10:34 PM | Reply

That last bit made my head hurt.

#144 | Posted by REDIAL at 2019-11-07 10:34 PM | Reply

"boomers" are associated with the civic nationalist perspective that "America is just an 'idea'"; as an alternative formulation, anyone who agrees with the ideals of the Constitution is an American.
Does this apply to any other country or nationality? Are Japan and the Japanese "ideas", or even "social constructions" to which anyone can subscribe, and thereby become Japanese, for example?

#145 | Posted by berserkone at 2019-11-07 10:54 PM | Reply

>made my head hurt.
Speak up now. What, exactly, made your head hurt?

#146 | Posted by berserkone at 2019-11-07 10:56 PM | Reply

Speak up now. What, exactly, made your head hurt?

I'll go with the disjointed stupidity of the text I read. I'll not waste my time doing it again.

#147 | Posted by REDIAL at 2019-11-07 11:04 PM | Reply

I'm planning to read the Torah and the Talmud. Am I an Israeli now, or Jewish? Or might the mitochondrial DNA tests they do to verify Jewish ethnicity prove otherwise?
www.haaretz.com

#148 | Posted by berserkone at 2019-11-07 11:04 PM | Reply

>disjointed stupidity of the text I read
How was what you read disjointed or stupid? It should be easy to demonstrate.

#149 | Posted by berserkone at 2019-11-07 11:06 PM | Reply

I won't hold my breath; "redial" is a typical leftist who puffs xirself up bigly by insulting another's perspective without even making an attempt to demonstrate why said perspective is wrong. Before you answer that I'm doing the same, I only respond in the manner in which I'm addressed.

#150 | Posted by berserkone at 2019-11-07 11:09 PM | Reply

ok, redial-oomer

#151 | Posted by berserkone at 2019-11-07 11:56 PM | Reply

Hard one here...horrible way to think and communicate differences of opinion.

But, damn it is prettyfunny. Plus austrailian... hard to dislike.

#152 | Posted by Ottodog at 2019-11-08 12:35 AM | Reply

I won't hold my breath; "redial" is a typical leftist who puffs xirself up bigly by insulting another's perspective without even making an attempt to demonstrate why said perspective is wrong.

That hasn't been my experience with Redial.

#153 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-11-08 01:15 AM | Reply

Jew
#148 | POSTED BY BERSERKONE

That didn't take long!

#154 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-11-08 01:38 AM | Reply

The Silent Generation born 1925-1945 allied with their parents are the ones who had the political power and caused the problems being blamed on us Boomers. We did not have the power to keep from being drafted for 'nam, did we? We have still not even been able to get pot legalized. Yes there are millions of wrongheaded creeps among us but they never belonged. Those of us with the right attitudes want to lend support to younger people who have ideas on how to repair this country.

#155 | Posted by grumpy_too at 2019-11-08 02:36 AM | Reply

"#62 That's because relatively unimpeded economic growth, cheap housing, real wage increases and less inequality than exists today during their prime earning decades gave them everything they wanted and then some.
If Boomers had to suffer through real wage stagnation there probably would have been a general strike. I actually admire boomers' ability to whine so loudly that they get their way, and i wish my own generation was as pissy as you are.
#63 | Posted by JOE at 2019-11-07 11:55 AM"

WHOA!

If one defines "Boomers" as those born in 1946-1964, then the following reviews of US economic history are pertinent:

"Boomers" would typically be entering the "real" work force around age 18-22 or 1964-1986.

Let's examine that "halcyon economic time" of 1964-1986:

* 1969-1983: inflation typically exceeding 5% with a peak of 12% in 1981. Those who lived through that time glumly remember the WIN ("Whip Inflation Now") Campaign.
www.in2013dollars.com

* 1975-1995: unemployment typically exceeding 6% with a peak of almost 10% in 1982.
www.csus.edu

* 1973-1999: real wages decreased nearly every year. OTOH, they have been (very slowly) increasing essentially every year since 1999 and are now about at the level they were in 1973.
www.pewresearch.org

* 1974-present: if you're referring to man/women wage inequality, the difference has been steadily decreasing since the worst time of 1974.
blogs.wsj.com

* 1964-1995: after adjusting for inflation, housing prices have actually been quite constant over that time period. That said, one had to overcome the hurdles of getting a decent job and being able to save enough for a down payment during a time of high inflation.
www.bing.com

BTW, other important tidbits not mentioned yet:
* 1964-1973: avoiding having all your well-laid plans derailed by getting drafted (if you're a man).

* 1973-1982: dealing with the Oil Embargo when crude oil prices skyrocketed from ~$15/bbl to ~$75 with associated gasoline price increases (and that's if you could find gasoline).
www.bing.com

To be sure, different times have different situations: good and bad.

#156 | Posted by TrueBlue at 2019-11-08 05:41 AM | Reply

Those don't seem bad at all compared to now

#157 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-11-08 07:56 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

You want to compare the relative hardships of the era you were born in? Both of my parents were born in the 1920's and became adults right around the beginning of the Great Depression, then my father and his four brothers all served in the military during WWII. My Dad had a 9th grade education and had to go work in a fish market to help support his family. He would get paid on Fridays and leave the money on his dresser for his Mother to collect. WWII was his best opportunity and he took it, enlisting in the Nave as a Seaman. It was a great opportunity for him because, in those days, enlisted men could go to flight school and he did eventually becoming a Chief Warrant Officer pilot. Then he was offered the opportunity to go to OCS, which he did, and graduated as an Ensign which enabled him to work his way up to Commander and Squadron Commander. The stories my Mom told me of the hardships of the Great Depression make everything all of us, from Boomers to Millenials, look like whiners. Read up on the Great Depression, the suffering was more intense than most of us have any idea about.

#158 | Posted by danni at 2019-11-08 08:33 AM | Reply

What is the cause for all the anger and discontent?

#159 | Posted by visitor_ at 2019-11-08 09:19 AM | Reply

Read up on the Great Depression, the suffering was more intense than most of us have any idea about.

#158 | POSTED BY DANNI AT 2019-11-08 08:33 AM | REPLY | FLAG:

Madbomber has your password Danni.

#160 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-11-08 09:25 AM | Reply

What is the cause for all the anger and discontent?

#159 | POSTED BY VISITOR_ AT 2019-11-08 09:19 AM | REPLY | FLAG:

Go to the rally and you will hear things to be angry about for 4 hours

#161 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-11-08 09:27 AM | Reply

The great depression is being mirrored now.

#162 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-11-08 09:28 AM | Reply

"Madbomber has your password Danni."

I'm glad I wasn't the only one who made the connection.

#163 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2019-11-08 09:58 AM | Reply

There's a song by this band called "Tool" that describes the Danni MadB mindset. The name of the song is "Prison Sex". It's about how some people are compelled to transfer their misfortune onto the next generation.

"Do unto others what has been done to you
I'm treading water
I need to sleep a while
My lamb and martyr, you look so precious
Won't you come a bit closer
Close enough so I can smell you
I need you to feel this
I can't stand to burn too long
Released in this ______
For one sweet moment I am whole
Do unto you now what has been done to me
You're breathing so I guess you're still alive
Even if signs seem to tell me otherwise
Won't you come just a bit closer
Close enough so I can smell you
I need you to feel this
I need this to make me whole"

#164 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-11-08 10:04 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"There's a song by this band called "Tool""

Uhm yeah, it's a favorite.

There's a trolley problem meme going around lately that basically says that switching the track to prevent the trolley from running over people would be an insult to the people the track has already run over.

#165 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2019-11-08 11:22 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Edit: "... would be an insult to the people the trolley has already run over."

#166 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2019-11-08 11:23 AM | Reply

Conservative philosophers avoid the trolley problem altogether because they don't like trains.

#167 | Posted by visitor_ at 2019-11-08 11:49 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

#185: "It would be unfair to people who already died from cigarettes to start warning people now!"

#168 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-11-08 12:40 PM | Reply

#185 That was one of the most intelligent and cogent arguments ever made on the retort. It's a shame only millennials can see it.

#169 | Posted by visitor_ at 2019-11-08 12:59 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I'm 20 posts ahead of my time!

#170 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-11-08 01:00 PM | Reply

666-55 22-666-666-6-33-777

#171 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2019-11-08 03:20 PM | Reply

And before that I responded "Ok, Boomer" to this gem from pinch...

#99 | POSTED BYGTBRITISHSKULL

I'm not a boomer, you dupus ------.

#172 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-11-08 05:50 PM | Reply

#158 | Posted by danni

Where did your dad fly in WWII? Pacific? Europe?

#173 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-11-09 12:11 AM | Reply

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