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Thursday, November 07, 2019

Donald Trump announced he will be attending the Saturday Alabama vs LSU football game in Tuscaloosa. Confusion ensued after the University of Alabama vice president for Student Affairs Jason Rothfarb sent a letter to saying: "Any organizations that engage in disruptive behavior during the game will be removed from block seating instantly for the the remainder of the season." AL.com ran a story saying: "The Student Government Association at the University of Alabama is warning student groups that causing disruptions during President Trump's visit to the Tide's Saturday game vs. LSU could result in the loss of reserved seating for the remainder of the season." Rothfarb sent AL.com a clarification: "By disruptive behavior, we are asking students to be respectful to all students and staff and avoid altercations. My email has nothing do with anyone's First Amendment rights and I am sorry for any confusion. Please express yourself and especially your pride for the Tide." Trump attended a World Series game Oct. 27 and a UFC match on Saturday, at both he was booed.

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Taxpayer funded institution banns Booing at sporting event.

Talk about sniveling snowflakes!

#1 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour at 2019-11-07 09:57 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

Taxpayer funded institution banns Booing at sporting event.
#1 | POSTED BY OLDWHISKEYSOUR

Seems reasonable ... taxpayer institutions should be political and religion free places.

MLS has a stricter rule ... why aren't you protesting MLS?

#2 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-11-07 11:26 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

Wow this leftwing academic PC culture has really run anok

#3 | Posted by JOE at 2019-11-07 11:38 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Multiple Listing Service? WTF you talkin' bout Willis?

Booing is political speech. Protected by the constitution.

I did not notice cheering being banned, did you Mackris?

#4 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour at 2019-11-07 11:41 AM | Reply

"The schools student government association has warned students that anyone protesting the President's visit will lose their tickets for the game and the remainder of the season."

That this is enough to stop people from protesting says more about the values of those who want to protest but won't than it does about those trying to stop the protesting.

Roll Tide.

#5 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2019-11-07 12:03 PM | Reply

That this is enough to stop people from protesting says more about the values of those who want to protest but won't than it does about those trying to stop the protesting.

Not sure i agree there. If someone wants to boo, but not badly enough to lose their football tickets, the president still deserves to hear that boo. Culling all the casuals is still a manipulation of the president's reception.

#6 | Posted by JOE at 2019-11-07 12:30 PM | Reply

"taxpayer institutions should be political and religion free places"

Oh so then Trump should be denied entry.

Got it.

#7 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-11-07 12:46 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Trump and his associates showing their thin skin. The hurt feelings culture are pathetic crybabies.

#8 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2019-11-07 01:12 PM | Reply

Seems reasonable ... taxpayer institutions should be political and religion free places.

#2 | Posted by AndreaMackris

So you're saying trump shouldn't be allowed to come in order to get a forced-cheering video clip.

#9 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-11-07 02:32 PM | Reply

Maybe they should further clarify what, "Disruptive behavior" means. And get ready for that class action lawsuit if they include "not being nice to the Orange man with the bad suit," in their determination to eject ticket holders for the remainder of the season. True, patriotic Americans would join in and challenge security to eject the whole stadium.

#10 | Posted by chuffy at 2019-11-07 02:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

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"Culling all the casuals is still a manipulation of the president's reception."

I'm not disagreeing with that. I think it's a BS move by the student government, but I also think it's hysterical that it can work.

#11 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2019-11-07 02:38 PM | Reply

Seems reasonable ... taxpayer institutions should be political and religion free places.
#2 | Posted by AndreaMackris

Then the constitution should be honoured and the first must reign supreme.

#12 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2019-11-07 02:50 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

(I>Maybe they should further clarify what, "Disruptive behavior" means.

The initial communication will still be enough to shut a lot of people up.

Trump will get his taxpayer-funded decibel endorphins.

And "conservatives" will be somewhere bitching about Obama, or Bill Clinton, or something.

#13 | Posted by JOE at 2019-11-07 03:03 PM | Reply

I imagine a lot of people who don't care about sportsball could get tickets and not worry about losing future privileges. That would be awesome. Make a mess of the whole football thing...anyone selling their season tickets might wind up being caught up in the Orange Menace's brown shirt rally inadvertently.

#14 | Posted by chuffy at 2019-11-07 03:15 PM | Reply

Wow this leftwing academic PC culture has really run anok

#3 | Posted by JOE

Not sure how that makes any sense here? Elaborate if you will.

#15 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2019-11-07 03:57 PM | Reply

"Elaborate if you will."

My guess is Joe mean that as sarcasm.

#16 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-11-07 04:00 PM | Reply

^meant

#17 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-11-07 04:01 PM | Reply

if the game is in alabama the it should be lsu vs alabama. jesus

#18 | Posted by cjk85 at 2019-11-07 04:04 PM | Reply

then it should...

#19 | Posted by cjk85 at 2019-11-07 04:05 PM | Reply

#15 It was a joke because rightwingers always claim academia caters to leftists, but younsee, in this case, the opposite is happening

Ha

Haha

Hahaa

#20 | Posted by JOE at 2019-11-07 04:17 PM | Reply

"Seems reasonable ... taxpayer institutions should be political and religion free places.
#2 | POSTED BY ANDREAMACKRIS"

Say what? College students should be forbidden from being politically active? Better tell the Young Republicans!

#21 | Posted by mOntecOre at 2019-11-07 06:07 PM | Reply

"Donald Trump announced he will be attending the Saturday Alabama vs LSU football game in Tuscaloosa."

At a time when Alabama is still rebuilding from when hurricane Dorian hit them hard?
It sure is nice of Trump to show up and hand out paper towels and Play-Doh!

And notice how liberal Jimmy Carter and his Habitat for Humanity haven't done a thing to help Alabama rebuild!

#22 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-11-07 06:08 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

So, such games should be politics and religion free zones. Ok.

But many of us don't see Trump support as a political issue but rather a moral one.

So are such games a moral free zone as well?

#23 | Posted by prius04 at 2019-11-07 07:24 PM | Reply

"...And notice how liberal Jimmy Carter and his Habitat for Humanity haven't done a thing to help Alabama rebuild!..."

Just did a Google. The Alabama HFH is looking for volunteers. Don't know if its specifically for hurricane rebuilding.

Are you suggesting that only helping for those hurt by the hurricane matters?

#24 | Posted by prius04 at 2019-11-07 07:27 PM | Reply

The only damage that Dorain did was that Sharpies are permanent markers.

#25 | Posted by bruceaz at 2019-11-07 07:36 PM | Reply

"But many of us don't see Trump support as a political issue but rather a moral one."

That is what JeffJ said prior to November 8, 2016.

On November 9, 2016 JeffJ learned to love big brother.

#26 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-11-07 07:39 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Any organizations that engage in disruptive behavior during the game will be removed from block seating instantly for the the remainder of the season."

Only behavior that praises Dear Leader is acceptable. No dissent will be tolerated!

What is bizarre about these "never accept reality" idiots is that Trump's behavior is nothing but disruptive and divisive. His very presence is disruptive. He should be banned!

Alabama. Where reason and logic go to die.

#27 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-11-07 07:43 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

On November 9, 2016 JeffJ learned to love big brother.

#26 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

November 9. 2016

The Day that Jeffy stopped worrying and learned to love the Bum.

#28 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-11-07 07:46 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Trump's just going to keep picking arenas until someone cheers for him.

Between the politics of Alabama and their "warning" to students, he may fonally get the ego boost he so desperately needs.

What's sad is how many millions of Americans actually voted for and defend this pathetic little manchild snowflake.

#29 | Posted by JOE at 2019-11-07 08:36 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"Trump's just going to keep picking arenas until someone cheers for him."

I think you are on to something.

I am certain that seeing him get booed makes him more popular among The Deplorable Base.

#30 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-11-07 08:42 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

So I've got Snoofy and Donner gnawing at my ankles on a thread where I haven't even posted.

Don't ever change, guys.

#31 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-11-07 08:44 PM | Reply

The University is smart to get out in front of this. Jeff Sessions had to be escorted away from Northwestern U this week due to protestors getting out of hand. The funny thing is in student polling 90% felt he should be able to speak at the school. Until administrations begin cracking down on these things a small minority of -------- will continue to employ the heckler's veto.

#32 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-11-07 08:46 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"Former U.S. Attorney General Jeff Sessions has championed students' rights to free speech on college campuses throughout the country. On Tuesday, he spoke against the students protesting a talk he gave at Lutkin Hall on Tuesday, criticizing what he called their "stupidity" and adding that Northwestern should not tolerate such behavior." dailynorthwestern.com

Irony much, JeffJ?

#33 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-11-07 08:51 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

"So I've got Snoofy and Donner gnawing at my ankles on a thread where I haven't even posted."

Ankles?
Cankles.
Get those steps in, boy! :)

#34 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-11-07 08:53 PM | Reply

"Until administrations begin cracking down on these things"

^
Until administrations begin cracking down on free speech

#35 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-11-07 08:53 PM | Reply

"So I've got Snoofy and Donner gnawing at my ankles on a thread where I haven't even posted."

You spend a lot of time here, bonehead.

People know you well.

#36 | Posted by Angrydad at 2019-11-07 09:01 PM | Reply

Irony much, JeffJ?

#33 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

Protesting is free speech. Heckler's veto is not. Learn the difference.

#37 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-11-07 09:39 PM | Reply

The University of Alabama (Alabama or UA) is a public research university in Tuscaloosa, Alabama. Established in 1820, the University of Alabama is the oldest[5] and largest of the public universities in Alabama as well as the flagship of the University of Alabama System. The university offers programs of study in 13 academic divisions leading to bachelor's, master's, Education Specialist, and doctoral degrees. The only publicly supported law school in the state is at UA. Other academic programs unavailable elsewhere in Alabama include doctoral programs in anthropology, communication and information sciences, metallurgical engineering, music, Romance languages, and social work

MY WORDS FOLLOW

First Amendment MUST reign supreme. No exceptions.

#38 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2019-11-07 09:41 PM | Reply

This doesn't even appear to be a 1st Amendment issue:

"By disruptive behavior, we are asking students to be respectful to all students and staff and avoid altercations. My email has nothing do with anyone's First Amendment rights and I am sorry for any confusion. Please express yourself and especially your pride for the Tide."

#39 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-11-07 09:48 PM | Reply

"Protesting is free speech. Heckler's veto is not. Learn the difference"

I don't believe you.
Go ahead and school me on the difference, please.
Maybe a citation or something, to an authoritative source like a CIA brief or a Supreme Court opinion?

#40 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-11-07 09:54 PM | Reply

"My email has nothing do with anyone's First Amendment rights"

Yeah.
About that:

Bill Taylor: As I said on the phone, I think it's crazy to withhold security assistance for help with a political campaign.

Gordon Sondland: Bill, I believe you are incorrect about President Trump's intentions. The Presdient has been crystal clear no quid pro quo's of any kind.

JeffJ believes there was no quid pro quo of any kind.
Sondland has since testified that there was quid pro quo.

JeffJ still believes there was no quid pro quo of any kind.
Just like JeffJ believes telling students they'll lose their tickets when they protest Trump isn't a First Amendment issue.

#41 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-11-07 10:02 PM | Reply

Sixth Circuit rejects heckler's veto' as to anti-Islam speech by Bible Believers' www.washingtonpost.com

#42 | Posted by et_al at 2019-11-07 10:16 PM | Reply

"Seems reasonable ... taxpayer institutions should be political and religion free places."

You mean anti-free-speech zones. You want taxpayer dollars to enforce a violation of the First Amendment, provided they do it in your favor. Isn't there a word for that in history?

#43 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-11-07 10:34 PM | Reply

The most fervent wish of right-wingers is that leftists continue to "express themselves" just as they have been doing on college campuses across the country. Leftists shut us down because they are afraid of what we have to say. I would like to promote, and extensively quote, leftists who are expressing their precise visions for a dystopian future.

#44 | Posted by berserkone at 2019-11-07 11:28 PM | Reply

So, go have a little LGBTQMIAOMGWTGWTFBBQ pow-wow in f'n Alabama - stick it to the fash!

#45 | Posted by berserkone at 2019-11-07 11:31 PM | Reply

There will be a lot of booing especially because of this SGA pronouncement. I would like to know the exact channels it came down through. The trump baby balloon will be there but if I still lived there I would have left town already.

#46 | Posted by grumpy_too at 2019-11-07 11:33 PM | Reply

"Here's a canvas grotesquely smeared with my period blood. I hate Blumpf."

#47 | Posted by berserkone at 2019-11-07 11:34 PM | Reply

Nobody should go. Let Trump sit in an empty stadium.

#48 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-11-07 11:37 PM | Reply

Nobody should go. Let Trump sit in an empty stadium.

They have a fleet of buses.

#49 | Posted by REDIAL at 2019-11-07 11:40 PM | Reply

"They have a fleet of buses."

Republicans on Public Transit?

It's over. The socialists have won.

#50 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-11-08 01:49 AM | Reply

"So, go have a little LGBTQMIAOMGWTGWTFBBQ pow-wow in f'n Alabama - stick it to the fash!
#45 | Posted by berserkone at 2019-11-07 11:31 PM"

Did you just have a mini-stroke?

#51 | Posted by TrueBlue at 2019-11-08 02:33 AM | Reply

#32 Northwestern University is a private school, so that's not a heckler's vseto.

#52 | Posted by JOE at 2019-11-08 02:33 AM | Reply

#32 - good point.

That court ruling was strange (#42), and I'm not sure how it could be applied to this situation. The court seemed to say the heckler's veto is valid as long as those being heckled aren't escorted out by the Police to quiet things down, or if the heckler's aren't violent, or if the speaker doesn't incite violence. Somehow walking around with the head of a pit on a pole and t-shirts saying what they said, and the "speakers" saying what they did wasn't inciting violence. Reading that weird.

#53 | Posted by YAV at 2019-11-08 10:06 AM | Reply

Yav,

The way I view a heckler's veto is that during a prepared speech they are so loud and disruptive that the speaker isn't able to speak at all.

In this case with Alabama it doesn't really apply - kind of hard to shout down someone who's watching a football game and isn't giving a speech.

#54 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-11-08 10:09 AM | Reply

I think this is just an attempt to build the TV audience for that game. I don't generally watch football but if it is available I might tune in for the drama.

#55 | Posted by danni at 2019-11-08 10:55 AM | Reply

"The way I view a heckler's veto is that during a prepared speech they are so loud and disruptive that the speaker isn't able to speak at all."

Okay, but that's not a First Amendment issue, unless the heckler is working for government.

On the other hand, telling students that they will be punished if they are so loud and disruptive that the speaker isn't able to speak, that's a restraint on their speech, in this case by the government of Alabama.

#56 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-11-08 12:37 PM | Reply

"Protesting is free speech. Heckler's veto is not. Learn the difference.
#37 | POSTED BY JEFFJ"

JeffJ On the Law. Hilarious.

#57 | Posted by mOntecOre at 2019-11-08 01:57 PM | Reply

Monte,

I'm not using 'heckler's veto' as a legal term.

#58 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-11-08 03:31 PM | Reply

Is the bloated------------ going to sit next to fellow repug pedo Roy Moore?

#59 | Posted by Reinheitsgebot at 2019-11-08 05:20 PM | Reply

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