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Democratic Presidential candidate Senator Kamala Harris wants schools to extend open hours until 6 p.m. to help working parents, offering extracurricular activities. The Family Friendly Schools Act seeks to better align school hours with parents work hours. The school day would run normally from 8 a.m. and offer additional activities until 6 p.m. with no closures, except for weekends, federal holidays, and emergencies. "My mother raised my sister and me while working demanding, long hours, said Senator Harris in a press release. So, I know firsthand that, for many working parents, juggling between school schedules and work schedules is a common cause of stress and financial hardship. But this does not have to be the case. My bill provides an innovative solution that will help reduce the burden of child care on working families. It is time we modernize the school schedule to better meet the needs of our students and their families."

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The bill proposes a pilot program be created that would give 500 schools serving mainly low-income families a five-year grant of up to $5 million to lengthen the school day, along with $1.3 billion for summer programming.

Under Harris' bill, teachers and faculty members are not required to work additional hours, and the extra time would be used for extracurricular activities. Teachers would be allowed to sign up for extra shifts and be paid the rate they get during normal school hours.

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I am not convinced this is the right solution to the problem Sen Harris is trying to solve.

Schools should be about education, not babysitting.


#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-11-07 07:28 PM | Reply

And....SHOELACES!!! All shoelaces should come pre-laced! PAY ATTENTION TO ME!
~Kamala

#2 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-11-07 07:30 PM | Reply

Our school already keeps kids until 6. Parents have to pay for it but it's cheap

#3 | Posted by eberly at 2019-11-07 07:31 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Schools should be about education, not babysitting. -LL

Those days ended a long time ago.

#4 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-11-07 07:45 PM | Reply

"Schools should be about education, not babysitting. -LL"

Then families should be about raising kids, not having both parents work.

#5 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-11-07 08:03 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Not sure about the rest of the country but in Panama City they have an after school program called Bay Base. It's been around since my son was in pre-K, 23 years ago. It goes from after school until 6pm. Includes homework help, snacks, activities, etc. The rates were on a sliding scale from full price to discounted to free based on income. And then you have the Boys and Girls Club, same deal, after school care, income based. Kamala is just out there in left field trying to keep up with Warren & Sanders in the free ---- department.

#6 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2019-11-07 08:05 PM | Reply

Down here in Broward County we have a similar system to what Gracie describes, it enables families with two working parents to be secure that their kids are ok. the two parents working situation is just a fact of life for most Americans today, it's economically impossible to survive otherwise unless one parent earns six figures which isn't the norm for most families. Perhaps if the minimum wage had kept up with inflation wages would have also and allowed one parent to earn enough to actually support a family but that was not part of the right wing plan for America. They intended to impoverish working class Americans because some of us joined unions and weren't subservient to their goals. Sooner or later Americans are going to realize how corrupt they have made the relationship between employees and employers.

#7 | Posted by danni at 2019-11-08 06:01 AM | Reply

"And then you have the Boys and Girls Club, same deal, after school care, income based. Kamala is just out there in left field trying to keep up with Warren & Sanders in the free ---- department."

You descibed a good program that helps families then you attack Kamala for agreeing with you. You really are just a nasty person Gracie. So much hate inside of you.

#8 | Posted by danni at 2019-11-08 06:03 AM | Reply

8 - pot meet kettle. Nobody even comes close to you in that department.

#9 | Posted by homerj at 2019-11-08 08:04 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

They intended to impoverish working class Americans because some of us joined unions and weren't subservient to their goals. Sooner or later Americans are going to realize how corrupt they have made the relationship between employees and employers.
#7 | Posted by danni at 2019-11-08 06:01 AM | Reply

Who is 'they'?

#10 | Posted by Avigdore at 2019-11-08 08:57 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#8 She is trying to reinvent the wheel and propose something that already exists. And quite the opposite Danni, you and others here are filled with nothing but hate. It's a beautiful morning and Trump is still YOUR president!

#11 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2019-11-08 09:16 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

"Who is 'they'?"

If you're too dumb to know I'm not going to bother attempting to communicate with a rock.

#12 | Posted by danni at 2019-11-08 09:17 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"She is trying to reinvent the wheel and propose something that already exists. And quite the opposite Danni, you and others here are filled with nothing but hate. It's a beautiful morning and Trump is still YOUR president!"

The biggest hater in the history of the WH and you're proud of him. That tells us all we need to know about you.

#13 | Posted by danni at 2019-11-08 09:18 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"She is trying to reinvent the wheel and propose something that already exists."

It exists in some school districts but not all school districts. It is needed in all.

#14 | Posted by danni at 2019-11-08 09:19 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Danni that is not the job of the president. Let the school districts that don't have programs figure it out. Funding is done through grants. Independent thinking and problem solving is done all the time without the government 'helping'.

#15 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2019-11-08 09:36 AM | Reply

"Independent thinking and problem solving is done all the time without the government 'helping'."

Horse crap. As a nation, this is a problem that deserves federal attention. If we can fund Trumps golfing trips we can afford to take care or our kids in America. You do realize that the objection you make has been made before every single thing that has been proposed to help the American people. If we can afford 2 trillion dollar tax cuts for the 1% we can keep public schools open til 6:00 and allow working parents to know their kids aren't sitting home alone and unsupervised.

#16 | Posted by danni at 2019-11-08 09:50 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

-Kamala is just out there in left field trying to keep up with Warren & Sanders in the free ---- department."

She's running for president.

We all knew there would be a race to see who can promise almost anything to the democratic base to get them all warm and fuzzy.

#17 | Posted by eberly at 2019-11-08 09:58 AM | Reply

Leftists think everything is a federal problem and needs a federal program.

#18 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-11-08 09:59 AM | Reply

There are programs already in place. We need to stop rewarding women for having more kids. They already get free or reduced breakfast, lunch and backpacks on Fridays filled with food for the weekend. They already have before and after school care at free or reduced prices. They have summer care at free or reduced prices. You don't have to be a member of the Boys and Girls clubs in the summer, but the doors are open for any child to eat breakfast and lunch for free. Let's not forget section 8 housing, WIC, SNAP, cash assistance, child tax credits, etc. What f--king more do you want? Enough is enough. The entitlement generation needs to evolve back to the personal responsibility generation.

#19 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2019-11-08 09:59 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

-this is a problem that deserves federal attention.

why?

How many schools right not are NOT offering this service?

#20 | Posted by eberly at 2019-11-08 09:59 AM | Reply

These types of programs are best implemented at the state and local level.

The federal government isn't the solution to all problems, or in some cases a solution in search of a problem.

The Department of Education is a relic of the '80's and school performance hasn't improved under it and arguably has gotten worse.

It needs to be abolished.

#21 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-11-08 09:59 AM | Reply

-Leftists think everything is a federal problem and needs a federal program.

well, they do in a primary anyway.

Who knows if they really believe this should be addressed at the federal level or if it has even a 1% chance of happening.

#22 | Posted by eberly at 2019-11-08 10:01 AM | Reply

Democrats recognize the needs of the people while Republicans happily ignore them. I've always been a Democrat, always will be, and proud of it. I can honestly say I voted against Nixon, Reagan, Bush Sr. Bush Jr. and Trump. Proud of every single vote. We would live in a more prosperous, better nation had those traitors never been cheated into office. That y'all can continue to support traitors who don't give a crap about the American people tells me that your comments should just be disregarded which I regularly do. Y'all have nothing of interest to say. I have a young grandson and I've seen first hand how much stress his after school program has relieved his parents from. When my kids were young I had to pay for day care centers which didn't provide very good care but it was all I could afford and it kept me struggling hard just to keep a roof over our heads. If other modern nations can provide things like this then why shouldn't the richest country in the world? Oh yeah, because the 1% want 2 trillion dollar tax cuts. Any of y'all get any of that money because I sure didn't.

#23 | Posted by danni at 2019-11-08 10:05 AM | Reply

Wokamala has all kinds of authoritarian ideas but they've been ignored because she isn't a first tier candidate.

#24 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-11-08 10:07 AM | Reply

" Who knows if they really believe this should be addressed at the federal level or if it has even a 1% chance of happening."

A large part of the trouble with our school systems has to do with local funding and local control. And people thinking that fixing wildly disparate outcomes can be addressed by increasing a budget by a few percentage points here and there compared to more successful schools. We don't have the stomach for really tackling the problem. Liberty in this country often takes the shape of being able to turn our backs on one another conscience free.

#25 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2019-11-08 10:08 AM | Reply

"That y'all can continue to support traitors who don't give a crap about the American people tells me that your comments should just be disregarded which I regularly do."

wow...not sure who you're talking to here but this isn't a good way to "disregard" them.

#26 | Posted by eberly at 2019-11-08 10:10 AM | Reply

These types of programs are best implemented at the state and local level.

Sounds nice, and while that might make sense for areas where it just isn't needed, that approach opens the door to it not existing where it is needed.

I'd be interested in a proposal that requires it, but allows for an exemption if __% of students aren't using it.

#27 | Posted by JOE at 2019-11-08 10:13 AM | Reply

"A large part of the trouble with our school systems has to do with local funding and local control. "

The problem is that schools are funded by property taxes. Rich neighborhoods get better schools than poor neighborhood and who needs after school care more?

"wow...not sure who you're talking to here but this isn't a good way to "disregard" them."

Nixon blew up Paris Peace Talks and extended the war in Vietnam 4 more years and cost 25,000 more American lives.
Reagan made a deal with the Ayatollah Khomeni to hold American hostage until after he was elected in exchange for illegally selling them parts for American made war equipment and weapons.
Bush Sr. lied us into the Persian Gulf War.
Bush Jr. lied us into the Iraq invasion.
Trump lies about everything and especially that he is being blackmailed by Putin.

I'm acknowledging the people who ignore all that and vote for those guys anyway, not disregarding them. They are important and their actions in the voting booth have consequences for America.

#28 | Posted by danni at 2019-11-08 10:16 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Candidates for POTUS always talk about expanding the department of education because the ideas sound fantastic in a campaign.

But do they ever really get it done at the Federal level the way it's promised?

I'm not criticizing the idea....rather, it's that schools are already doing it.

#29 | Posted by eberly at 2019-11-08 10:21 AM | Reply

According to rumors, allegedly started by someone, Kamala also states that Boys and Girls Clubs are unfairly exclusive and there must be clubs covering all the other genders.

#30 | Posted by Petrous at 2019-11-08 12:37 PM | Reply

Better idea is to team up with another business to provide after care. The local Y does after care in my town.

#31 | Posted by Pirate at 2019-11-08 06:20 PM | Reply

"Do not close for parent-teacher conferences, professional development, or any other reason without offering fullday enrichment activities free of charge for students"

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That would make a lot of teachers and principals unhappy.

#32 | Posted by Pirate at 2019-11-08 06:31 PM | Reply

The problem is that schools are funded by property taxes. Rich neighborhoods get better schools than poor neighborhood and who needs after school care more?

Mostly no.

Rich neighborhoods parents donate more to the PTA, can afford fees for after school activities so those don't have to come out of the budget, frequently have better hours so they can be more present for their kids, and have advanced degrees so they can actually help with homework. Sprinkle in the effects of being raised affluent vs. poor in terms of life expectations (this may be the largest factor) and add a dash of teachers preferring to work in "rich" schools and you get vastly different outcomes with similar budgets.

#33 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2019-11-08 08:49 PM | Reply

The problem is that schools are funded by property taxes. Rich neighborhoods get better schools than poor neighborhood and who needs after school care more?

FALSE ... even Florida its false ..

Miami Edison Senior High School spends $12,348 per pupil on its mostly low-income black students.

#34 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-11-08 10:27 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"Miami Edison Senior High School spends $12,348 per pupil on its mostly low-income black students."

What? You mean it costs more to educate kids when they come from less advantaged homes than you?!?

#35 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-11-08 10:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

In the Little Haiti neighborhood, Miami Edison Senior High School spends $12,348 per pupil on its mostly low-income black students.

Three miles away, Miami Jackson Senior High School spends $8,578 at the majority Hispanic school, which has a larger enrollment and more students who are poor.

Citation:
www.floridaphoenix.com

(for context, accuracy, and full disclosure - it's an eye-opening article with some links to some surprising information)

#36 | Posted by YAV at 2019-11-08 10:54 PM | Reply

#36 - like this:

Collier County's Everglades City School, with data showing only 176 students, spends $17,473 per student " far more than other schools in the district.

#37 | Posted by YAV at 2019-11-08 10:55 PM | Reply

After school extracurricular activities are fantastic. I was in a Strategy and Tactics Club in HS; we played board games that lasted for days. I don't remember the names of the games, there was a cowboy game, a Navy game, a WWII Africa game, a chariot races game. Fun stuff, building camaraderie with fellow dorks.

#38 | Posted by hamburglar at 2019-11-10 12:40 PM | Reply

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