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Wednesday, November 13, 2019

Democracy depends on the consent of the losers. For most of the 20th century, parties and candidates in the United States have competed in elections with the understanding that electoral defeats are neither permanent nor intolerable. The losers could accept the result, adjust their ideas and coalitions, and move on to fight in the next election. Ideas and policies would be contested, sometimes viciously, but however heated the rhetoric got, defeat was not generally equated with political annihilation. The stakes could feel high, but rarely existential. In recent years, however, beginning before the election of Donald Trump and accelerating since, that has changed.

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In recent years, however, beginning before the election of Donald Trump and accelerating since, that has changed.

That's because liberals changed it.

Liberals want to totally shut up the other side. Make it so they can NEVER live their ideology and that's not how our country is designed. Liberals want to make it so they can take away everything the opposition holds dear and they can never do it again. That's the problem.

#1 | Posted by boaz at 2019-11-12 02:31 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Liberals want to make it so they can take away everything the opposition holds dear

Intolerance and bigotry?

You're right. Liberals will fight against your hatred.

If it were up to conservatives, you would still be some second class, second rate, American.

Conservatives rue the day black people were given rights and considered humans.

#2 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-11-12 02:38 PM | Reply

Everything?

You mean we "liberals" don't like anything you like? WTF does that even mean?

#3 | Posted by YAV at 2019-11-12 02:41 PM | Reply

Boaz is king of the broad brush.

He blames all his problems on "liberals".

Why is he so fat? Liberals fault.

Why is he so dumb? Liberals fault.

Why is he so ugly? Liberals fault.

#4 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-11-12 02:45 PM | Reply | Funny: 3

How America Ends

By drug addiction and ruining the concept of "family".

Politics is just a symptom of a terminal disease.

#5 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-11-12 03:01 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Future historians may look back and pinpoint 2016 at the year "America" ended.

#6 | Posted by moder8 at 2019-11-12 03:59 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Actually, major shifts began years ago and I am referring to Congress.

The rules of the House and Senate are up to them. Therefore, other two branches can't fix their problems.

As both parties changed their rules, the other side sought revenge. First one rule, then another, then a third.

You said no we say no. My way or no way.

Instead of opposition coming to the middle ground, the Congress is a mess. It isn't about fixing the rules. They are so mad at each other that every is now spiteful.

Judges don't get consent, bills in the House sit in the Senate, and now, after Clinton we have Trump impeachment.

I fear impeachment will now be part of the brokenness. Whether you believe Trump should be removed or not, this is just another issue of revenge to come in our future.

Every once in a while, here in the Retort, there is a glimpse of hope that we are still able to converse, but we are poisoned.

Compromise? Seeing the fracture between the two parties with no healer in sight?

I don't see any that can lead to unity. Divided the houses are. The public hasn't gone divided as long as there are independents.

No one party stands for what I believe. There are democrat, republican, liberal, conservative, and ice cream & pony ideas I support. There is good stuff there in all our views.

I can't stand on a soapbox as we are all standing on one and we can't see anyone beyond the person next to us.

#7 | Posted by Petrous at 2019-11-12 04:25 PM | Reply

It wasn't long ago that both sides would be a D.C. cocktail parties. Now neither side even talks to each other.

#8 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2019-11-12 04:44 PM | Reply

"It wasn't long ago that both sides would be a D.C. cocktail parties. Now neither side even talks to each other."

It wasn't that long ago that Republicans were socially liberal fiscal convervatives.
But nowadays, who wants to go to a cocktail party with a bunch of Bible-thumping White Nationalists?

#9 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-11-12 04:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

#1 that was pretty stupid even for boaz.

#10 | Posted by jpw at 2019-11-12 07:10 PM | Reply

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America ended when the SC decided it's ok for billionaires to buy Congress. We are an oligarchy now, have been since the Reagan era. It will only get worse with our present SC.

#11 | Posted by danni at 2019-11-13 10:54 AM | Reply | Funny: 2 | Newsworthy 1

The United States is not America.

#12 | Posted by sentinel at 2019-11-13 07:55 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"We are trying to change the tones in the state capitals and turn them toward bitter nastiness and partisanship. ... Bipartisanship is just another name for date rape."

Grover Norquist

#13 | Posted by SomebodyElse at 2019-11-13 09:39 PM | Reply

#10 was about average even for JPW

#14 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-11-14 12:41 AM | Reply

I wouldn't get too fatalistic about the future of America. We're big and we're strong and, in case no one has noticed, we have a tendency to pull together when were facing a crisis.

However, I don't call the results of the 2016 election a true crisis. It's the beginning of the end, for sure, but not for the country. Only for an object lesson that's been hoisted upon us by a 6'1" malcontent with a Napoleon Complex and an impossible dream of someday being the most powerful person in the world. But he's also a complex mess of mental deficiencies than can only be described as a form of self-implosion. Wait for it. It's going to happen. And the country will survive to fight again . . . just like we've always done and just like we always will.

We are strong and he is weak. We are many and he is only one. We have friends in the world and he is the most lonesome person in the world . . . insecure and floundering like in a nightmare that won't end.

I can't and won't believe that America will succumb to an impotent, pipsqueak with bad hair and the I.Q. of a street thug. We made a mistake in 2016 and that's all there is to it. Mistakes can be fixed and when that's done, we'll start moving forward again just like we've always done. And we'll keep saluting our flag and singing the national anthem, secure in the comfort of knowing that despite our differences, we have survived the worst (again) and are still "e. pluribus unum".

And don't you ever forget it!

#15 | Posted by Twinpac at 2019-11-14 02:53 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

That's my nice way of putting it.

In short, I say let's stand up and give that bum the middle finger in November 2020.

Then we can watch him bawl like a crybaby and start shooting his blank wads at all his imaginary enemies while we dance in the street and have confetti parades.

#16 | Posted by Twinpac at 2019-11-14 03:03 AM | Reply

Tha damn commies take over. It is happening now.

#17 | Posted by Sniper at 2019-11-14 10:30 AM | Reply

This is silly and a half...

And some of these responses are silly and three-quarters.

We need more diverse political choices that actually represent the people.

The Two party system dominated by corporate money doesn't work for us common folk... Who knew?

#18 | Posted by LostAngeles at 2019-11-14 10:58 AM | Reply

Make it so they can NEVER live their ideology

Liberals are very tolerant of every ideology as long as it doesn't negatively impact the constitutionally protected rights of others.

What ideology do you want to live that liberals are preventing you from living?

#19 | Posted by FedUpWithPols at 2019-11-14 11:12 AM | Reply

"Today, a Republican Party that appeals primarily to white Christian voters is fighting a losing battle."

This is why there will never be any improvements in partisan relations coming from Liberals. The GO doesn't appeal primarily to white Christian voters. There are a myriad of political ideologies that the Right has, just like there are a myriad of political ideologies that the Left has. If I were to say, "Today, a Democrat Party that appeals primarily to low self-esteem crybaby voters is fighting a losing battle.", Liberals would go nuts and say that's stupid...and it is. Just like saying the Reps appeal primarily to any one type of person. This type of hate is what keeps the rift growing; neither side wants to accept that the other side isn't full of a bunch of people that fits their narrative. They ignore the ideologies and attack the person. I am for an unregulated 2nd Amendment. To a Liberal filled with hate, their perspective is I'm a person who wants people to be murdered by guns. I can say I am pro-legalization of all drugs. To a Con filled with hate, their perspective is I'm a person who wants good-for-nothing druggies killing themselves every day.

To an objective person, of which this country is running out of, they see that the person on the Right wants to keep the freedoms they were born in to and believes there is a reason to have protection from tyranny and the person on the Left wants to probably stop the crime, corruption, unfair incarcerations, etc. that drugs cause. Until an individual proves their intent, they should not be judged on their beliefs. Once we started judging people based on their opinion instead of their intent, we all lost.

#20 | Posted by humtake at 2019-11-14 01:26 PM | Reply

"a tectonic demographic shift"
I thought this was a far-right conspiracy theory.

#21 | Posted by berserkone at 2019-11-14 11:48 PM | Reply

#20 | POSTED BY HUMTAKE

Republicans are predominantly white, with 87 percent of them identifying as non-Hispanic white. This percentage has remained steady for well over a decade " long before the sizable increase in minority support that Democrats saw with the first African-American president. www.debt.org

Republicans face this dilemma: As the party of whites, they represent a constituency that will only keep shrinking as a proportion of the population. Yet their current position, in which they hold the lion's share of political power in the United States despite winning the support of well less than half the public, is dependent on remaining the party of white people. They need whites to stay angry and they need to keep suppressing the votes of minorities, but doing so means that should the day ever come that they finally decide to reach out beyond their base, they will have made it somewhere between difficult and impossible. prospect.org

#22 | Posted by WhoDaMan at 2019-11-15 12:27 PM | Reply

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