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Thursday, November 14, 2019

The Trump administration is preparing court filings to begin taking over private land to build its long-promised border wall as early as this week -- without confirming how much it will pay landowners first, according to two officials familiar with the process.

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#1 | Posted by et_al at 2019-11-14 07:52 PM | Reply

Donald Trump is a flatly stupid man, to need Texas so much in 2020 and to do this. If he takes private land for an already unpopular wall in Texas he will be hated. Hated.

#2 | Posted by Zed at 2019-11-14 07:54 PM | Reply

His sycophants have already shredded their constitutional rights for him.

#3 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-11-14 09:41 PM | Reply

If i were the landowner, i would wait until they moved on, then bulldoze. How are cattle supposed to use the RG? How are landowners supposed to enjoy their water rights for boating and recreation?

#4 | Posted by e1g1 at 2019-11-14 09:43 PM | Reply

This is hilarious in light of the conservative (and not just conservative) backlash against Kelo.

#5 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-11-14 09:46 PM | Reply

#5

And the screaming of States rights on the other thread regarding high school shooting and relevant gun control.

Irony is the flavor of the night.

#6 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2019-11-14 09:49 PM | Reply

Let's call that purchase of private property a 'mandatory buyback'. That should make it better.

#7 | Posted by Avigdore at 2019-11-14 09:51 PM | Reply

Here in America, we like our irony entorced at gunpoint.

"We're from the government and we're here to help you!"
-- Republican party motto since Novemver 9, 2016

#8 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-11-14 09:52 PM | Reply

This is Trump doubling down on the stupid to stroke his ego.

One of the things less popular in Texas than his Wall are eminent domain seizures, and less popular still will be taking land without agreeing on a price first.

Bobby Joe Billy Bob may even catch on to his thieving way.

#9 | Posted by Corky at 2019-11-14 10:02 PM | Reply

This is hilarious in light of the conservative (and not just conservative) backlash against Kelo.

First, you are confusing Trump with being a conservative. Most Republicans know he never was, but he is playing one on TV, just like he is trying to play a President. I believe at the time of stupid Kelo decision Trump was actually a registered Democrat, or just switched to Independent, playing a semi-permanent Trojan Horse as in "potential presidential candidate" role.

Second, this was the plan and the reason behind "The Wall" from the start. Public land around southern border already has some kind of physical guard, and money had been appropriated for its reinforcement or replacement during early Bush43 administration. Trump never hid that he absolutely loves "eminent domain" law, which he used or tried to use as politically connected "real-estate developer."

He loves "taking" things from others more than anything, and now he (almost) has the power to do it. If he fails, or the "wall" will be sawed after, he'll consider it his biggest failure.

#10 | Posted by CutiePie at 2019-11-14 10:21 PM | Reply

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"First, you are confusing Trump with being aconservative. Most Republicans know he never was, but he is playing one on TV, just like he is trying to play a President."

Nope. Not even in the slightest.

Trump is the heart and soul of the Conservative movement and the GOP.

To argue otherwise is like arguing the USSR wasn't "True Communism."

Own it.

#11 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-11-14 10:25 PM | Reply

If he takes private land for an already unpopular wall in Texas he will be hated. Hated.
#2 | Posted by Zed

Not as much as Texans hate Ds. They won't like the taking but they'll still vote R. They've never forgiven Ds for the Civil Rights Act.

#12 | Posted by SomebodyElse at 2019-11-14 11:06 PM | Reply

Not as much as Texans hate Ds.

Texas is increasingly purple.

I doubt it will flip in 2020, but every bit of a shift left helps and I can't imagine this will do anything but bump that shift left.

#13 | Posted by jpw at 2019-11-14 11:53 PM | Reply

USSR wasn't "True Communism."

Everyone knows that USSR was "True Communism" even when they tried to call themselves "Advanced Socialism" after the failures of USSR and communism became indisputable.

Everyone, including especially conservatives, know that Trump was never one of them, not even those times when he was registered as a Republican, and even when he won nomination. As long as he does some of their bidding he may be given a pass, "purity" be damned.

And Trump doesn't care about labels like conservative or liberal, as long as it's not something personal, like "failure" or "puppet". He is a boorish chamelion when it comes to politics.

Own it.

I wouldn't and don't have to - never cared for a man (if you can call him that - "A pig in a palace is still a pig"), a myth, a legend (in his own mind).

I respect principled, reasoned and reasonable liberals and conservatives - I "own" logic, reason and knowledge - Trump is nowhere near that universe.

Trump is the heart and soul of the Conservative movement and the GOP.

Certainly, not the movement - he was the most unpopular candidate to win Republican nomination in my short political memory, and there were several attempts by conservatives (#NeverTrump-ers) to remove or deny him candidacy, platform or see HIS agenda succeed. That would be like saying that communist platform is the heart and soul of the Democratic Party (Democratic Socialists of America) if you can believe that?

Unfortunately, Democrats seem to insist on giving them a choice of septuagenerian or young socialists, or complete and proven failures, like Hillary... I hear that "many, many, many people want her to run"... again.

Stupid Party vs Moronic Party, while normal people lose.

#14 | Posted by CutiePie at 2019-11-15 12:26 AM | Reply

There is not nor was there ever a true communist country. Never. Totalitarian fascist dictatorships do not count and that pretty much sums up any country calling themselves, "communist" that has ever existed. Pure communism is where everybody shares in the same labor and fruits from their labor. No such place every existed on this planet.

#15 | Posted by tknees at 2019-11-15 12:37 AM | Reply

There is not nor was there ever a true communist country. Never. Totalitarian fascist dictatorships do not count and that pretty much sums up any country calling themselves, "communist" that has ever existed. Pure communism is where everybody shares in the same labor and fruits from their labor. No such place every existed on this planet.

#16 | Posted by tknees at 2019-11-15 12:37 AM | Reply

I would not be surprised if some of those lands TRump is about to seize will miraculous turn into one of his gold course in the near future. Texas deserves this to happen to them for voting for this big orange ----- sandwich.

#17 | Posted by tknees at 2019-11-15 12:39 AM | Reply

"Everyone, including especially conservatives, know that Trump wasnever one of them, not even those times when he wasregisteredas a Republican"

Doesn't matter.
They voted for him.
They nominated him.
They elected him.

It's Trump's party now.

#18 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-11-15 12:42 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Certainly, not the movement - he was the most unpopular candidate to win Republican nomination in my short political memory"

You clearly aren't judging popularity among Republicans by winning primaries and the nomination, but by some convenient fabricatation custom-made for you to keep holding on to your ridiculous beliefs.

#19 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-11-15 12:45 AM | Reply

"we're gonna get a border wall. unfortunately, it's gonna be a rock-climbing wall. at the other side's gonna be a slide. you land in a chlorinated pool, and immediately get a welfare check"

#20 | Posted by berserkone at 2019-11-15 01:17 AM | Reply

__________
@ #18 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-11-15 12:42 AM

Doesn't matter.
They voted for her.
They nominated her.
They (almost) elected her.

It's Hillary's party now.
You clearly aren't judging popularity among Republicans Democrats by winning primaries and the nomination, but by some convenient fabricatation custom-made for you to keep holding on to your ridiculous beliefs.

Thanks for pointing out that my "beliefs" (whatever you mean by that term) are "ridiculous" but you've just proved why I should "hold on to them" anyway.
__________

Thank you and have a good night.

#21 | Posted by CutiePie at 2019-11-15 02:42 AM | Reply

Derp it. Erp, I mean, worth it.

#22 | Posted by hamburglar at 2019-11-15 08:48 AM | Reply

"They've never forgiven Ds for the Civil Rights Act."

I totally agree and I would say that the accusations of "identity politics" used against Dems should be laughed at and scorned because the people who gained Civil Rights understand that their acquisition of equal rights is the basis for the Republicans' coalition of political power. If you are a Republican in the South, or anywhere else in America, there is a racist element to your support for them unless you are part of the 1% benefiting from huge, unpaid for, tax cuts.

#23 | Posted by danni at 2019-11-15 09:00 AM | Reply

It's Hillary's party now.

#21 | POSTED BY CUTIEPIE

Yes it was. If she had been elected President, she would have been the leader of the party. She represents the Democratic Party and the liberal movement. Anything she did could be RIGHTFULLY placed at the feet of the Democratic party (liberals) for them to take responsibility for. You think we would find that offensive or something?

You think Trump is No True Scotsman. We are just pointing out the flaws in your argument. YOU do not decide what conservatives are, or what they stand for. You can SAY your ideals are whatever you want. But, we know that conservatives lie all the time (see Trump). So it is much more reliable to go by their ACTIONS. And their ACTIONS indicate that TRUMP represents them and who they are. And whenever he has (supposedly) violated "professed" tenants of conservatism, the conservatives have unwaveringly stood by his side.

Certainly, not the movement - he was the most unpopular candidate to win Republican nomination in my short political memory, and there were several attempts by conservatives (#NeverTrump-ers) to remove or deny him candidacy, platform or see HIS agenda succeed.

I am pretty sure that I heard those are all RINOs and cuckservatives. Or deep state. Definitely not TRUE conservative Scotsmen.

That would be like saying that communist platform is the heart and soul of the Democratic Party (Democratic Socialists of America) if you can believe that?

When Democrats elect a communist candidate to lead our party as our Presidential nominee, then feel free to say communism is the "heart and soul of the Democratic Party". But, last I checked, Hillary is not a communist. And even BERNIE does not claim to be a communist (and liberal voters soundly rejected him as their nominee).

#24 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2019-11-15 09:12 AM | Reply

Where did those trumptards Texans think the wall would be built... In Colorado?

#25 | Posted by kudzu at 2019-11-15 10:39 AM | Reply

"Where did those trumptards Texans think the wall would be built... In Colorado?"

And New Mexico is going to pay for it!

#26 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-11-15 10:52 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

The Cliven Bundys of the world threw an absolute ------- when the federal government tried to get them to pay grazing fees for using federal land. Let's see how worked up they get when the federal government tries to outright take away their land.

#27 | Posted by JOE at 2019-11-15 11:02 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Landowners: "How much will we get?"

Dep't officials: "How would we know? That's between you and the Mexican government."

#28 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar at 2019-11-15 04:42 PM | Reply

Wait?! A wall? scummer said NO WALL FOR YUO!! NODA PENNY FOR NO WALL!!
We all heard him.

#29 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2019-11-16 11:56 AM | Reply

Let's call that purchase of private property a 'mandatory buyback'. That should make it better.

#7 | POSTED BY AVIGDORE

You misspelled theft.

Let's call that "theft" of private property what it is

Thievery.

That should make it better.

#7 | POSTED BY Comrade Abigdope

#30 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-11-16 12:45 PM | Reply

"It's Hillary's party now."

It was in 2016.
Now it's up for grabs.
Whoever the Dems nominate, that person will be the new Dem capo.
Same for Repubs, which is why Trump is their current leader.

#31 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-11-16 02:36 PM | Reply

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