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In early August, one of those [CIA] analysts was staying after hours on a project with even higher stakes. He wove this material into a nine-page memo outlining evidence that Trump had abused the powers of his office to try to coerce Ukraine into helping him get reelected. Then, on Aug. 12, the analyst hit "send."

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Why is the CIA meddling in domestic politics?

That's SUPPOSED to be against the law.

#1 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-11-16 03:00 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 2

His decision to report what he had learned to the U.S. intelligence community's inspector general has transformed the political landscape of the United States, triggering a rapid-moving impeachment inquiry that now imperils Trump's presidency.

Over the past three months, the allegations made in that document have been overwhelmingly substantiated " by the sworn testimony of administration officials, the inadvertent admissions of Trump's acting chief of staff and, most importantly, the president's own words, as captured on a record of his July 25 call with the leader of Ukraine.

It is not clear whether any of this would have come to light were it not for the actions of a relatively junior CIA employee, who is now the target of almost daily attacks by Trump and right-wing efforts to make his identity widely public. Dozens of senior officials " including the national security adviser, the secretary of state and the acting White House chief of staff " were either aware of or involved in the Ukraine scheme and failed to expose or stop it. More than a half-dozen lower-ranking officials made futile attempts to intervene.

Ultimately, it came down to a lone analyst, in a cubicle miles from the White House, drafting an unprecedented document in the detached manner he had learned in his CIA training.

I truly don't think Trumpers understand that the whistleblower will go down in history as one of the greatest American heroes ever and all the sycophantic enablers of Trump's illicit politically-motivated, self-serving machinations will suffer its scorn being rightly labeled as traitors of their oaths to protect and defend the laws of this nation.

At this point, there isn't any sentient argument left proving otherwise, only ignorantly oblivious noise trying to obscure the evident truth.

#2 | Posted by tonyroma at 2019-11-16 03:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

#1

An analyst was doing his job - analyzing the information he was given and placing it into a logical narrative. He didn't interfere in anything. He put 2 and 2 together, thought he saw malfeasance, and reported it through the proper channels as directed by the laws and regulations put in place for doing so.

How can this be foreign to anyone at this point? The analyst didn't stop anyone from doing anything, he simply pointed out something he thought violated the law and reported it to the police.

What the hell happened to your sense of perspective?

#3 | Posted by tonyroma at 2019-11-16 03:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Why is the CIA meddling in domestic politics?

That's SUPPOSED to be against the law.

#1 | POSTED BY PINCHALOAF

Jesus Christ you've gone full Trumptardian stupid.

#4 | Posted by jpw at 2019-11-16 03:10 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 2

#3 he found out Santa isn't real so he's throwing a tantrum that he thinks is rebelling against his parents.

#5 | Posted by jpw at 2019-11-16 03:11 PM | Reply

Jesus Christ you've gone full Trumptardian stupid.

#4 | POSTED BY JPW

Here ...

List of CIA controversies
en.wikipedia.org

Have another scotch and be happy.

#6 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-11-16 03:12 PM | Reply

#6

Stop bringing BS that has nothing to do with the topic into this argument. You made the stupid inference that reporting suspicion of a crime is "interfering" and should be "illegal". That is insane.

You've lost your freaking mind and I wish you'd take stock and go find some perspective. You used to have some, so I'm sure it didn't run far away.

Check under Jimmy Dore's --------, I'm sure there's plenty there....

#7 | Posted by tonyroma at 2019-11-16 03:19 PM | Reply

#3 he found out Santa isn't real so he's throwing a tantrum that he thinks is rebelling against his parents.

#5 | POSTED BY JPW

Wrong

Church Committee
en.wikipedia.org

Just as Aaron Mate (the only journalist to win an award debunking Russiagate) points out, liberals and Democrats are going to regret getting in bed with the National Security State.

Why Democrats will regret lionizing the national security state on impeachment
drudge.com

Also, have another scotch.

#8 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-11-16 03:19 PM | Reply

Stop bringing BS that has nothing to do with the topic into this argument. You made the stupid inference that reporting suspicion of a crime is "interfering" and should be "illegal". That is insane.

You've lost your freaking mind and I wish you'd take stock and go find some perspective. You used to have some, so I'm sure it didn't run far away.

#7 | POSTED BY TONYROMA

Yes, Trump sucks.

And, you're being lied to by a corporate Democratic friendly media who are being fed CIA leaked talking points masquerading as "news", and you're eating it up as total gospel when you should be skeptical.

#9 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-11-16 03:24 PM | Reply

Really Pinch, FO.

You've become nothing more than a bad joke. The CIA didn't cause Trump and his henchmen to do anything that they've done, and exposing their larceny is a public service regardless of where the reporting originates from.

You're like the imbeciles who think that criminals who rat out other criminals somehow shouldn't be believed because they're criminals themselves even when they deliver all the evidence supporting their stories. There's an old adage for that: Birds of a feather flock together.

I don't expect devils to be ratted out by angels.

#10 | Posted by tonyroma at 2019-11-16 03:29 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

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Pinche has become a corporate tool... parroting their "the parties are the same!" message.

Last time he supported Bernie, but followed Bernie's advice and voted for Clinton. This time he would rather have America suffer another 4 years of Trump than vote for a Dem of whom he doesn't personally approve, even if that would be better for the country.

#11 | Posted by Corky at 2019-11-16 03:33 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Have another scotch and be happy.

#6 | POSTED BY PINCHALOAF

Yeah #4 was spot on.

Sad.

#12 | Posted by jpw at 2019-11-16 03:33 PM | Reply

"you're being lied to by a corporate Democratic friendly media who are being fed CIA leaked talking points masquerading as "news""

Maybe it's just me, but it seems like Pinchaloaf has been on the Kool-Aid for about six weeks now...
Anyone know what happened?
Did he pull a Nullifidian on us?

#13 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-11-16 04:15 PM | Reply

Pinche has become a corporate tool... parroting their "the parties are the same!" message.

Last time he supported Bernie, but followed Bernie's advice and voted for Clinton. This time he would rather have America suffer another 4 years of Trump than vote for a Dem of whom he doesn't personally approve, even if that would be better for the country.

#11 | POSTED BY CORKY

Spoken like a Republican masquerading as a "centrist" Democrat.

Speaking of corporate, I think Ralph Nader WAS RIGHT about Democrats selling out for corporatism -- the problem is the Democratic Party refuses to listen, which would require Democrats to listen to the concerns of working Americans instead of catering to the professional class, to Wall Street, and to the corporate globalized billionaire douchebags.

I just cancelled my NYT and WaPo subscriptions, and when they asked me why I told them it was because of their crappy content. I'll also be cancelling my HBO subscription -- screw Bill Maher, he's lost his balls and has turned into a corporate hack.

And if Trump is SO bad, why did Democrats give him $200 billion in EXTRA military spending?

Actually I know why -- Democrats are also corrupt for the military-industrial-complex, along with Dems also being corrupt on Ukraine, just like Trump.

#14 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-11-16 04:15 PM | Reply

"Spoken like a Republican masquerading as a "centrist" Democrat."

You must think regular left-leaning people aren't aware that Bill Clinton might as well have been a moderate Republican, based on his policies, and yet we still think Bill Clinton did a better job than his Republican opponents would have.

Now, the people who reject the idea that Clinton government as a moderate Republican are the far-right-who-think-they're-moderate Republicans like JeffJ.

Corky won't admit it, because he won't talk bad about his own party that way, and he'll find some data points like "would a Republican have passed DADT" or some nonsense.

So, I mean, if you can accept that Corky is a true blue Democrat and thus a Bill Clinton fan, and that Bill Clinton acted a whole lot like a moderate republican would have (not that there are any moderate Republicans anymore) then,

When you say
"Spoken like a Republican masquerading as a "centrist" Democrat."

You might as well just say
#11 | POSTED BY CORKY

Because -- and this is the important point --

Your pithy little insights, they're not telling anyone anything they don't already know. Yet you keep repeating them like there's some A-ha! moment just around the corner.

You are the one who needs to have the A-Ha! moment, and I'll get you started: Bernie Sanders isn't really a Democrat, like Joe Biden or even Elizabeth Warren are. He's just running with the Democrats. Much like Trump wasn't really a Republican until he ran as one, and won, and now he won the right to represent the party. Bernie hasn't done that yet.

#15 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-11-16 04:29 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Like Eric, I'd be alarmed too if I hosted the the White House meeting in 2016 about getting the investigation into Enron shut down to protect Joe's son. And Joe boasted about doing it on film in a CFR meeting, have you seen that?

This whole thing is so funny.

#16 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2019-11-16 11:49 PM | Reply

Apparently CIA believes it has the right to decide who may be president. Just like the KGB in the Soviet Union.

#17 | Posted by visitor_ at 2019-11-18 12:01 AM | Reply

No, the KGB covered up crimes committed by Russian leaders. US Patriots report crimes and let the jury decide guilt.

#18 | Posted by bored at 2019-11-18 12:17 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

True, the KGB and FBI/CIA do cover up crimes of leaders they approve of.

#19 | Posted by visitor_ at 2019-11-18 07:54 AM | Reply

And the smearing of the whistleblower continues.

The argument being made by the sycophants here is, as far as I can tell, "it should be illegal for an American citizen to reveal the illegal/impeachable behavior of the President if that citizen also works for the CIA".

Awesome.

#20 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2019-11-18 09:02 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Do the Democrats and their leftist news media imbeciles actually believe American voters think that this CIA analyst is the whistleblower? Especially after the whistleblower's own report to the IG said that he received second and third hand 'information' about a 'phone call' made by the President. Now suddenly after that call has proven to be inoquous its supposedly all about Trump admin people's feelings .... substantiated " by the sworn testimony of administration officials, the inadvertent admissions of Trump's acting chief of staff and, most importantly, the president's own words, as captured on a record of his July 25 call with the leader of Ukraine. Why are these CIA spies NOT being charged with espionage, treason, and an attempted coups? They have clearly done this nation's democracy a huge disservice and have neutered the Executive Branch.

#21 | Posted by SJHamilton at 2019-11-18 09:09 AM | Reply

#20

On cue....

#22 | Posted by tonyroma at 2019-11-18 09:11 AM | Reply

It's not unprecedented for CIA officials to be rewarded with the Medal of Freedom. (Remember George Tenet?) In this case that award is even more than ever rightly-merited.

#23 | Posted by Augustine at 2019-11-18 09:47 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

This whole thing is so funny.

#16 | POSTED BY HELIUMRAT

No Comrade. It's a tragedy.

"I have news for everybody. Get over it. There is going to be political influence in foreign policy."

And I have news for everybody (especially Pootins Puppies)

Every Civil Servant (CIA are civil servants too) takes an oath.

That oath is to defend the constitution (not cover up criminal activity to protect the president). When a civil servant witnesses a crime it is his or her duty to report it. To NOT report a crime you are aware of makes YOU a criminal, too.

"I, Your name, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God."

#24 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-11-18 01:02 PM | Reply

You know going all the back to #1. The CIA is tasked with international intelligence gathering among other things. This falls as "international" as it involved Ukraine. The CIA is traditionally who taps your calls when you are calling internationally - FBI can do it as well but it is usually the CIA, NSA or both.

Would you have domestic specialists working on international work or the international guys? I mean how hard is that?

#25 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2019-11-18 02:04 PM | Reply

Why is the CIA meddling in domestic politics?

That's SUPPOSED to be against the law.

#1 | POSTED BY PINCHALOAF

A. It had to do with international relations because:
B. Military aid was being withheld from Ukraine, who were trying to fend off Russian aggression that'd already killed 13,000 Ukrainians.

#26 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-11-18 04:18 PM | Reply

This thread got out of hand fast.

But it's like sour milk - you just gotta take a whiff...

And if you're so staunchly against the CIA (and intelligence community) you're free to leave at any time.

They'll still find you and they'll still track you.

#27 | Posted by LostAngeles at 2019-11-18 11:57 PM | Reply

We know from history that the CIA is always on the up-and-up and always does it by the book.

#28 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-11-19 09:54 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#28 so you're down to innuendo and conspiracy theory now?

#29 | Posted by jpw at 2019-11-19 10:03 AM | Reply

#29 Nope. Just chumming the water.

#30 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-11-19 10:29 AM | Reply

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