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Sunday, November 17, 2019

Navy Spokesperson Commander Vivek Madhwal said, "The MiG-29K trainer aircraft suffered an engine fire. The pilots Captain M Sheokhand and Lt Commander Deepak Yadav ejected safely." The Indian Navy also added, "Mig 29 trainer aircraft was flying from ashore (Goa). During recovery, there was a bird hit&fire on right engine was observed. Both pilots ejected and are safe. Aircraft crashed in open/ safe area. No casualties reported. Further details being ascertained."

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Here are the pilots, just ejected:

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Looks like they like crashing Migs...

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"Thank you for buying our overpriced garbage"... Russia.

From an Indian Navy aviation source... "These Mig29K are a pain... all their settings get reset when they land on deck!" I have no idea what the hell that means but this is what they said.

#1 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-11-17 05:28 AM | Reply

Pilots look like junkies....

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I can't embed Facebook videos here... and Facebook is a pain to many people... but they get videos before YouTube does. Here is the plane in trouble in the sky.

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Looks more like a missile hit than a "bird strike".... LOL

3 Combat Losses
15 Crashes
3 Major accidents

Also... if one engine is out... it's got two engines for a reason, no? A Russian pilot would have attempted to land this turkey... not eject at the first sign of trouble.

Then again, maybe Russian planes are designed to blow up even if you scratch the paint... what do I know?

#2 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-11-17 05:35 AM | Reply

Oh and they were forced to use the Mig29K....

1. They had no choice... they came with the Russian carrier (which has issues of it's own).

2. Indians have crashed all their Harriers. These were the only ones they could get for carrier operations.

#3 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-11-17 05:39 AM | Reply

Bird strike can be bad news if you're taking off. You have insufficient altitude to recover, and if your aircraft's single engine performance isn't good enough to climb, your only option is to point it in a safe direction, milk your glide slope, and get out.

First rule of flying: ---- happens.

#4 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2019-11-17 03:14 PM | Reply

First rule of flying: ---- happens.

You're missing the entire point of the thread: "India Bad".

#5 | Posted by REDIAL at 2019-11-17 03:44 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

"India Bad"

More like "India Sad".

I am however happy to see it bothers you. LOL

#6 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-11-17 11:57 PM | Reply

Bird strike can be

Bird strike can indeed be.

But is it?

Funny how almost all of their crashes are blamed on "bird strike"... never pilot error or shoddy maintenance.

Here is a fact... 90% of all planes that have been repaired by HAL (Hindustan Aeronautics Limited) have crashed because of "bird strike" in the last 10 years. Their new foreign-made planes never have "bird strike". LOL

#7 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-11-18 12:01 AM | Reply

So THIS is the country that America wants to use for containing China.

First help them solve problem of "bird strike". Then go after China.

#8 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-11-18 12:03 AM | Reply

if your aircraft's single engine performance isn't good enough to climb

RD-33/RD-93

Exact same engine used by Pakistan's single engine JF-17.

As you can see it has NO PROBLEM going vertical (notice the take-off):

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The RD-93 is a very reliable engine. It's not a spectacular engine but it doesn't suck either.

#9 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-11-18 12:09 AM | Reply

#10 You're such a numbnuts. The JF-17 weighs about 20Klbs, and the engine has about 20klbs of thrust. The Mig-29K weighs 50klbs. How far do you think it's going to fly with one engine if it loses the other at low altitude?

#10 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2019-11-18 09:04 AM | Reply

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How far do you think it's going to fly with one engine if it loses the other at low altitude?

I am not asking it to do a loop the loop. But I am certain it will handle well enough for an emergency landing on one engine.

If that doesn't work they can always send the cow dung burgers they carry, into the afterburner for extra boost.

Numbnuts.

#11 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-11-18 09:42 AM | Reply

Hell... you know what? I don't give a %*%*

Carry on, please.

#12 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-11-18 09:44 AM | Reply

Why on earth would I want to argue over a fraked up hindoo plane of a fraked up hindoo airforce flown by fraked up hindoo pilots who got fraked by a fraked up hindoo bird?

Not worth the effort.

#13 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-11-18 09:46 AM | Reply

But I am certain it will handle well enough for an emergency landing on one engine.

#11 | POSTED BY J_TREMAIN AT 2019-11-18 09:42 AM | REPLY

Not with that wing. The clean stall speed is 153mph.

#14 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2019-11-18 11:06 AM | Reply

The clean stall speed is 153mph.

Faith and Cow Dung will make up the rest of whatever speed is required.

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#15 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-11-18 01:14 PM | Reply

Faith and Cow Dung will make up the rest of whatever speed is required.
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#15 | POSTED BY J_TREMAIN

This picture explains a lot./s

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#16 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2019-11-18 01:18 PM | Reply

Yep.

#17 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-11-18 01:21 PM | Reply

#16 I remember when that story broke. Johnny ------ claimed the Pakistani oxcarts had two oxen and four wheels.

#18 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2019-11-18 03:35 PM | Reply

That story is from when there was no internet, you dope.

#19 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-11-18 04:07 PM | Reply

Russians are famous for developing, particularly military, aircraft with few if any redundancy systems. The theory is that military pilots know that they are expendable and besides, without triple redundancy, they can carry more fuel and weapons, which at the end of the day is more important from a pilot's point of view.

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#20 | Posted by OCUser at 2019-11-18 04:32 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

That's a remarkably racist view. They have ample redundancies and every country that produced aces in WW2 knows the value of trained pilots.

#21 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2019-11-18 05:27 PM | Reply

#19 Do they have sarcasm in Texas?

#22 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2019-11-18 06:14 PM | Reply

A what?

#23 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2019-11-18 06:19 PM | Reply

#19 Do they have sarcasm in Texas?

A what???

#24 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-11-18 11:51 PM | Reply

They have ample redundancies

Maybe...

All I know is whenever a country with American equipment fights against s country with Russian equipment, the results are not encouraging for the Russian equipment users.

I know it's not as simple as that.... more likely that the countries that use Russian equipment are low-brow thugs who are not allowed to buy the good western stuff.

But still he has something of a point.

#25 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-11-18 11:54 PM | Reply

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