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Monday, November 18, 2019

Medical staff at Walter Reed did not get a staff-wide notice about a presidential visit to the medical center in Bethesda, Maryland, ahead of Trump's arrival ... Typically, Walter Reed's medical staff would get a general notice about a "VIP" visit to the medical center ahead of a presidential visit, notifying them of certain closures at the facility. That did not happen this time.

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On Saturday, Donald Trump was taken to Walter Reed Medical Center for an unscheduled visit which the White House initially tried to claim was for a routine physical that isn't scheduled until February. Trump's Twitter account later claimed it was to visit a military family and now the story has taken an even stranger turn, as Trump has vanished.

Various observers pointed out on Saturday night that the White House press pool didn't actually see Donald Trump return to the White House. Now the AP's Jonathan Lemire is confirming that Trump was "not in public view today." His official schedule doesn't have him in public tomorrow either, even though it'll be a weekday.

In other words, no one has seen Donald Trump since before he was taken to the hospital on Saturday, and there's every indication that no one will see him until at least Tuesday.

www.palmerreport.com

Guess we'll find out more tomorrow.

#1 | Posted by tonyroma at 2019-11-17 10:57 PM | Reply

Maybe he's getting that creature on his head removed or a new one installed.

#2 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2019-11-18 02:54 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The stress on Trump has been more evident each day. He's clearly spending most of his time trying to "herd cats" within his own administration which are scattering both outside and around his strict directives.

Trump is a control freak extraordinaire, a malady that's been enabled and reinforced by the sycophants with whom he confers daily. It's not inconceivable that Trump has suffered a series of light strokes brought on by 1) Nancy Pelosi and the "investigations" and 2) the pressure he's getting from Mr. Putin to amp up his efforts to assist in Russia's expansion goals.

Between the two, Pelosi and Putin have put Trump between a rock and a hard place for which there doesn't seem to be an exit ramp that will save him.

Not to mention that his influence in important state elections seem to have gone past Trump's "sell-by" date. That alone would send shivers of fear throughout his psyche.

#3 | Posted by Twinpac at 2019-11-18 04:12 AM | Reply

ABORTED

"Maybe he's getting that creature on his head removed or a new one installed."

Trump has male pattern baldness.

What would any egotist like Trump do if they had a bald spot the size of a baseball on the back of their head? ~ LOL

#4 | Posted by Twinpac at 2019-11-18 04:19 AM | Reply

ABORTED

Professional male hair restoration have speculated that it would cost Trump about $60,000 a year to hang onto every strand of hair he has left ~~ exclusive of regular pruning.

#5 | Posted by Twinpac at 2019-11-18 04:38 AM | Reply

ABORTED

Professional male hair restoration have speculated that it would cost Trump about $60,000 a year to hang onto every strand of hair he has left ~~ exclusive of regular pruning.

#5 | POSTED BY TWINPAC

Maybe he didn't pay that bill either.

#6 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2019-11-18 06:47 AM | Reply

No rubber room in Whitehouse.

#7 | Posted by fresno500 at 2019-11-18 07:12 AM | Reply

What would any egotist like Trump do if they had a bald spot the size of a baseball on the back of their head? ~ LOL

Get plugs!
--Joe Biden

#8 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-11-18 08:55 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

Maybe he's getting that creature on his head removed or a new one installed.

#2 | POSTED BY ABORTED_MONSON

#9 | Posted by tonyroma at 2019-11-18 09:06 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

TONY

I don't think Trump is wearing a "piece."

I think he's intent on growing his own. Thus the extreme front combover and the back with hair growing down to his shirt collar.

#10 | Posted by Twinpac at 2019-11-18 09:29 AM | Reply

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Of course Twinpac. It's just been a standing joke that his hair wants to leave his head because of how embarrassing he acts since all the combover and looping makes his hairstyle look like an autonomous "thing" more than a normal head of hair.

#11 | Posted by tonyroma at 2019-11-18 09:37 AM | Reply

A septuagenarian that binges on junk food, gets no exercise and has to wear a diaper because he's addicted to Sudafed is having health problems? Shocker.

#12 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2019-11-18 10:41 AM | Reply

Trump is setting up his excuse to resign because of health problems. I said months ago that Trump is going to fake a heart attack. He's getting closer.

#13 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2019-11-18 10:44 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

There was a physician on tv this morning that speculated Trump's visit may have been tied to a diagnostic test (likely coronary-based) which would be done prior to an annual physical. He was versed in the vascular medication Trump is taking and stated that he has shown a marked increase in arterial plaque over the last decade and tied the trip to this likelihood, FWIW.

#14 | Posted by tonyroma at 2019-11-18 10:46 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

We aren't lucky enough for this POS to die or resign.

#15 | Posted by JOE at 2019-11-18 10:47 AM | Reply

We aren't lucky enough for this POS to die or resign.

#15 | Posted by JOE at 2019-11-18

We may be seeing how a massive narcissist plays for sympathy without admitting anything is actually wrong with him.

#16 | Posted by Zed at 2019-11-18 11:22 AM | Reply

I really hate the fact that people get paid just for writing down that an old guy had some kind of impromptu health issue and went to get it looked at. Being a Journalist is really hard work it looks like.

#17 | Posted by humtake at 2019-11-18 11:29 AM | Reply

--We aren't lucky enough for this POS to die or resign.

Anything is better than trying to defeat him at the ballot box!

#18 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-11-18 11:29 AM | Reply

#17 | Posted by humtake at 2019

Donald Trump lies about his health. He's being treated like a man who lies.

#19 | Posted by Zed at 2019-11-18 11:30 AM | Reply

Don't heart problems require to actually have a heart?

#20 | Posted by eightfifteenpm at 2019-11-18 11:39 AM | Reply

Cue the Junior crook

#21 | Posted by grumpy_too at 2019-11-18 11:50 AM | Reply

@#17 ... I really hate the fact that people get paid just for writing down that an old guy had some kind of impromptu health issue and went to get it looked at. ...

Perhaps if Pres Trump had not repeatedly talked of his "excellent health" it would not be such a big deal when his health does not appear to be as excellent as he has asserted.


Additionally, anytime a President of the United States makes an unscheduled visit to Walter Reed, it is a big thing, worthy of reporting.



#22 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-11-18 11:56 AM | Reply

TONY

"There was a physician on tv this morning that speculated Trump's visit may have been tied to a diagnostic test (likely coronary-based) which would be done prior to an annual physical. He was versed in the vascular medication Trump is taking and stated that he has shown a marked increase in arterial plaque over the last decade and tied the trip to this likelihood"

Good catch.

I saw that, too. If we're talking about the same interview, the doctor also said that Trump was told a long time ago that he was a candidate for coronary artery disease and that is Rx of Crestor for arterial plaque had been increased. I assume he's also taking a blood thinner.

I think any observer for the past year or so could tell that he was about ready to pop a gasket.

#23 | Posted by Twinpac at 2019-11-18 12:38 PM | Reply

I really hate the fact that people get paid just for writing down that an old guy had some kind of impromptu health issue and went to get it looked at

So. Donald Trump is just some old guy??

It's not news when the POTUS makes an unscheduled, unannounced trip to the hospital?

Fact is. Dozens of "old guys" had impromptu health issues today and went to the hospital, and you'll never hear about any of them.

But. It's adorable you wanted to shame everyone.

Carry on.

#24 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-11-18 12:40 PM | Reply

Should we start practicing President pro tem Pence now?

#25 | Posted by Twinpac at 2019-11-18 12:52 PM | Reply

Good luck Mr President.

Maybe if Humpy survives his Impeachment heart attack he will tell us what us liberals were Really hoping for.

Since he is the only one in America who can speak without accountability for anything he says.

#26 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-11-18 03:40 PM | Reply

It is routine for both Trump and Pence to have motorcades in excess of 15 vehicles even for short trips within DC. The mere fact that in this case only 5 vehicles were used implies an urgency that prevented the planning and staging involved in a normal motorcade.

#27 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2019-11-18 04:17 PM | Reply

Maybe his "personal Vietnam" the ole VD is finally taking one of the last of the Nam greatest to his demise.
Ted "---- your pants to avoid service, but I'm a tuff guy" will surly weep for one of his fallen brethren.
Simper VDalis to all those that we're to chicken to serve!!!!! Tell us again how Sen. Kerry wasn't a a true serviceman ?

#28 | Posted by zelkova at 2019-11-18 07:18 PM | Reply

Anything is better than trying to defeat him at the ballot box!

#18 | Posted by nullifidian

Americans have proven themselves too stupid to be trusted with a responsibility like voting.

I don't care what get's Trump out of office, it will be a joyous day when he's just off being somebody else's problem and not America's.

Same goes for McConnell.

#29 | Posted by jpw at 2019-11-18 07:37 PM | Reply

I wonder who many hamberders they had to pull out that lard ass' arteries.

#30 | Posted by jpw at 2019-11-18 07:44 PM | Reply

Americans have proven themselves too stupid to be trusted with a responsibility like voting....

#29 | POSTED BY JPW

Because your preferred candidate lost?

#31 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-11-18 08:00 PM | Reply

Trump displays neurological symptoms; not being able to find or pronounce common words. That would indicate mild strokes.

The other possibility is he's abusing Adderall. He displays all the signs of that too.

#32 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-11-18 08:04 PM | Reply

He ran out of sildenafil.

#33 | Posted by LostAngeles at 2019-11-18 08:11 PM | Reply

HATTER @ 27

I was listening to a cardiologist describe the extensive medical facilities in the White House that are available to the President 24/7. He said that there is almost nothing they aren't equipped to handle and the doctors and their equipment are the very best money can buy.

He thought that for the President to be suddenly whisked off to Walter Reed unannounced like that meant something happened that was life threatening ~ most likely cardiac related.

#34 | Posted by Twinpac at 2019-11-18 09:09 PM | Reply

Is Trump still MIA?

Perhaps this is his plan.

Fake his death and retire to Russia.

#35 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-11-18 09:16 PM | Reply

CLOWN

"Is Trump still MIA?"

Until Tuesday according to the White House. But then they never tell the truth about things like this. All we know right now is that you don't go to Walter Reed for a stress test.

Speculation is running wild. My guess is that's he's hooked up to a heart monitor and on 24 hour watch. If his arterial blockage is 70% or higher, he'll be needing a stent.

#36 | Posted by Twinpac at 2019-11-18 09:39 PM | Reply

CLOWN

Worst case scenario is that Trump had a stroke. Depending on how serious, he could have some brain damage.

I always did think his brain has been oxygen starved for years.

#37 | Posted by Twinpac at 2019-11-18 09:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Because your preferred candidate lost?

#31 | Posted by JeffJ

You've been active enough on here during the 2016 campaign and election for me to waste my time explaining against a stupid assertion of me supporting Hillary.

But no, it's because they elected a known lying, narcissist conman who admitted to sexual assault and voyeurism of minors.

And, unbelievably, it's only gotten worse since while his support remains right where it was on day 1.

#38 | Posted by jpw at 2019-11-18 10:00 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Worst case scenario is that Trump had a stroke. Depending on how serious, he could have some brain damage.

I always did think his brain has been oxygen starved for years.

#37 | Posted by Twinpac

He's so rock bottom it might actually make him more tolerable...

#39 | Posted by jpw at 2019-11-18 10:24 PM | Reply

Worst case scenario is that Trump had a stroke.

Maybe he can borrow Hillary's 'Stroke Glasses' from 2016?

#40 | Posted by REDIAL at 2019-11-18 10:32 PM | Reply

REDIAL

Well, MSNBC just released a report from Trump's doctor saying (paraphrasing) that Trump is as healthy as a stud . . . and he's not receiving any treatment . . . and this was just an interim exam to check him out because of the campaign . . . and it's something that all presidents do.

Translation: It's serious.

#41 | Posted by Twinpac at 2019-11-18 11:14 PM | Reply

Uh huh, sure. And Trump's doctors have never lied.

#42 | Posted by Twinpac at 2019-11-18 11:42 PM | Reply

Redial #40. Funny. And probably true.

Tchump reminds me of a 4th grade bully; Hitting all the other kids, calling everyone names and causing chaos all around and leaving everyone feeling bad. But let a teacher admonish him or threaten to punish him, he goes running home to Mommy screaming how unfair he's being treated. Waah! Wah! Twumpie-Baby needs his binky!

#43 | Posted by Augustine at 2019-11-19 02:15 AM | Reply

AUGUSTINE

Good visual.

Let me edit that just a hair and say ~~ "he goes running to the Supreme Court screaming how unfair he's being treated."

#44 | Posted by Twinpac at 2019-11-19 07:10 AM | Reply

No neurological tests were performed. They can only do those on brains

#45 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2019-11-19 07:28 AM | Reply

"Americans have proven themselves too stupid to be trusted with a responsibility like voting."

That's baloney. Hillary Clinton had 3,000,000 more votes than Trump. What has actually happened is that Repubicans have spent 40 years gerrymandering,
having the SC allow almost unlimited funds to be spent buying elections, disenfranchising voter as they are getting ready to do in Georgia right now (300,000 which is more than the margin by which the Gov. won his crooked election), etc. Blaming the voters is like blaming the lamb for being slaughtered.

#46 | Posted by danni at 2019-11-19 09:48 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

You've been active enough on here during the 2016 campaign and election for me to waste my time explaining against a stupid assertion of me supporting Hillary.
But no, it's because they elected a known lying, narcissist conman who admitted to sexual assault and voyeurism of minors.
And, unbelievably, it's only gotten worse since while his support remains right where it was on day 1.

#38 | POSTED BY JPW A

Well, then beat him in 2020.

#47 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-11-19 09:52 AM | Reply

#47 there's that problem with the irresponsible stupidity that I mentioned.

Remember?

#48 | Posted by jpw at 2019-11-19 10:04 AM | Reply

Yeah, I remember.

My point is we generally respect the outcome of elections. You know, first-world stuff.

#49 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-11-19 10:31 AM | Reply

You mean like "make sure he's a one term POTUS" and Merrick Garland? That kind of respect elections?

Because Trump was given more respect that he deserved until his corruption became clear.

It's an absurd argument that any of this is simply impeachment because Hillary lost.

#50 | Posted by jpw at 2019-11-19 10:33 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

www.youtube.com

#51 | Posted by randomcanyon at 2019-11-19 10:35 AM | Reply

You mean like "make sure he's a one term POTUS"

That was tame compared with #TheResistance.

and Merrick Garland?

That will come back to bite the GOP in the rear.

#52 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-11-19 10:40 AM | Reply

#52 hardly.

The GOP didn't even wait to see what Obama's policies were before doing whatever they could to tank them.

Trump's policies are just objectively horrible for 90%+ of the population.

And it doesn't matter if it bites them. The damage is done.

#53 | Posted by jpw at 2019-11-19 10:48 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Trump's policies are just objectively horrible for 90%+ of the population.

That's a subjective statement.

If that's so obviously true then beating him in 2020 should be easy.

#54 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-11-19 10:50 AM | Reply

If that's so obviously true then beating him in 2020 should be easy.
#54 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

It's as if you've forgotten what started the entire exchange...again.

And no, it's not subjective. Destroying the environment, making corporations more powerful and cutting taxes for the wealthy while spending like a mad man on anything but things that benefit everybody all support my assertion.

#55 | Posted by jpw at 2019-11-19 10:56 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

It absolutely is subjective. You personally don't like the policies. That doesn't make them bad for 90%+ of the people in this country.

Seriously, get over yourself.

#56 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-11-19 11:04 AM | Reply

You sound like Nancy Pelosi - that it's too dangerous to let the voters decide the 2020 outcome.

#57 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-11-19 11:09 AM | Reply

Rep. Al Green: "I'm Concerned If We Don't Impeach This President, He Will Get Re-Elected"

#58 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-11-19 11:16 AM | Reply

Re #58

Comrade Nullified: "I am concerned this President won't be re-elected!"

#59 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-11-19 11:22 AM | Reply

Destroying the environment, making corporations more powerful and cutting taxes for the wealthy while spending like a mad man on anything but things that benefit everybody all support my assertion. - how

Jpw the 70s called and would like thier meme back.

Democrats say this for every Republican President.

#60 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-11-19 11:30 AM | Reply

#57 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

It is dangerous, and I cannot believe that you of all people dont see how turning a blind eye to all of the proven corruption would be setting a precedent to allow ANY future POTUS to do the same crap. If we allow what Trump has done to go unchecked then we are saying it is all no big deal and we expect it from our leaders. Well I dont! We need to shine a light on it and say this is not acceptable.

#61 | Posted by justagirl_idaho at 2019-11-19 11:32 AM | Reply

Democrats say this for every Republican President.

#60 | POSTED BY ANDREAMACKRIS

Yep.

#62 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-11-19 11:33 AM | Reply

We need to shine a light on it...by all means. I am all for transparency.

#63 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-11-19 11:33 AM | Reply

Idaho,

If the case is really strong the voters will respond accordingly.

#64 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-11-19 11:34 AM | Reply

#64 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

And you believe that simply losing an election is the same message as Impeachment? Because in my opinion being fired is much worse than being laid off... If he is impeached and removed he also wouldnt get the pension under the former presidents act, due to termination. It may be a long shot to have him removed but I believe impeachment sends a lot louder message about his actions than simply losing the re-election ever could.

#65 | Posted by justagirl_idaho at 2019-11-19 11:41 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"You personally don't like the policies. That doesn't make them bad for 90%+ of the people in this country."

Oh?
Let's put this to the test:
Since 1975, practically all the gains in household income have gone to the top 20% of households.

Is that policy bad for the bottom 80%, JeffJ?

#66 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-11-19 02:01 PM | Reply

Jpw the 70s called and would like thier meme back.

Democrats say this for every Republican President.

#60 | Posted by AndreaMackris

If the shoe fits...

#67 | Posted by jpw at 2019-11-19 02:10 PM | Reply

That doesn't make them bad for 90%+ of the people in this country.

Seriously, get over yourself.

#56 | Posted by JeffJ

Who benefits and who loses from policy isn't subjective.

Sorry you don't like the conclusion, but it fits the data.

#68 | Posted by jpw at 2019-11-19 02:11 PM | Reply

"Who benefits and who loses from policy isn't subjective."

not to you, but to millions and millions of voters on election day?

Good luck convincing them it's as objective as you see it.

#69 | Posted by eberly at 2019-11-19 02:15 PM | Reply

You personally don't like the policies. That doesn't make them bad for 90%+ of the people in this country.

Unless you're in the top 10% of Americans, Trump's policies have made life worse for you.

Or you're part of the extreme right evangelical crowd who's glad trump is subverting civil rights and nominating regressive judges who want to govern based on the Bible.

Since you, Jeff, are in both column A and B, it makes sense why you're such a staunch Trump supporter.

#70 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-11-19 02:28 PM | Reply

-Unless you're in the top 10% of Americans, Trump's policies have made life worse for you.

specifically, which policies have made life worse for you?

If you're going to make the claim, then list the policies and describe, exactly, how they have made life worse for you.

#71 | Posted by eberly at 2019-11-19 02:30 PM | Reply

"I cannot believe that you of all people dont see how turning a blind eye to all of the proven corruption would be setting a precedent to allow ANY future POTUS to do the same crap."

^
It's impressive how much people want to think JeffJ can't really be that bad.
I find myself doing the same thing.

#72 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-11-19 02:31 PM | Reply

Good luck convincing them it's as objective as you see it.

#69 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Reality doesn't require their agreement.

#73 | Posted by jpw at 2019-11-19 02:47 PM | Reply

"specifically, which policies have made life worse for you?"

Trump's changes to the tax code is probably the one thing that hurts the most people, and is easiest to show.

#74 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-11-19 02:48 PM | Reply

You sound like Nancy Pelosi - that it's too dangerous to let the voters decide the 2020 outcome.

#57 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

Never said people shouldn't vote.

Just stated the obvious that enough voters are too stupid for it to work.

#75 | Posted by jpw at 2019-11-19 02:49 PM | Reply

#72 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

Jeff really works on selling himself as moderate at times and I want to believe that not everyone is partisan. I am very middle of the road but I do tend to lean slightly left. I just want us all to hold our leaders to a high standard without considering political affiliation. This shouldnt be ok for anyone.

#76 | Posted by justagirl_idaho at 2019-11-19 02:50 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

specifically, which policies have made life worse for you?

I'm paying more in taxes, which results in having less expendable income to spend in my local economy. Which also impacts my local community.

#77 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-11-19 03:02 PM | Reply

-I'm paying more in taxes

why?

#78 | Posted by eberly at 2019-11-19 03:04 PM | Reply

why?
#78 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Snoofy answered that in #74.

#79 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-11-19 03:22 PM | Reply

I don't see snoofy's post but without looking, I'm sure he didn't...which is why I don't see his posts.

Answer it please.

how much did your taxes go up, which taxes, and why?

If you know your taxes went up then you can answer all those questions with no effort.

#80 | Posted by eberly at 2019-11-19 03:25 PM | Reply

"Unless you're in the top 10% of Americans, Trump's policies have made life worse for you."

-Clownshack

something tells me you wish you hadn't typed that.

and you're calling on Danforth or someone like that to come here and save you.....

#81 | Posted by eberly at 2019-11-19 03:33 PM | Reply

There are many things Trump has done that are not good for most Americans.....I just want you to say how any of it has impacted you

#82 | Posted by eberly at 2019-11-19 03:35 PM | Reply

Read it again:

Trump's changes to the tax code is probably the one thing that hurts the most people, and is easiest to show.
#74 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

As far as my taxes. I paid more. I know because I... wait for it... paid more.

#83 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-11-19 03:37 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Maybe he's getting that creature on his head removed or a new one installed.

#2 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2019-11-18 02:54 AM | Reply | Flag:

He was getting his balls fluffed by Lindsay Graham.

#84 | Posted by Nixon at 2019-11-19 03:39 PM | Reply

something tells me you wish you hadn't typed that.

and you're calling on Danforth or someone like that to come here and save you.....

#81 | POSTED BY MRS EBERLY CLEO

Was it your crystal ball?

As for danforth, he living rent free in your empty head?

#85 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-11-19 03:40 PM | Reply

I just want you to say how any of it has impacted you
#82 | POSTED BY EBERLY

I did. Perhaps you're extra dense today.

#86 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-11-19 03:41 PM | Reply

-As far as my taxes. I paid more. I know because I... wait for it... paid more.

liar

#87 | Posted by eberly at 2019-11-19 03:51 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

liar
POSTED BY EBERLY AT 2019-11-19 03:51 PM | REPLY | FLAGGED NEWSWORTHY BY NULLIFIDIAN

"The liar's punishment is, not in the least that he is not believed, but that he cannot believe anyone else."
-George Bernard Shaw

Believe what you will, my conscience is clear.

#88 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-11-19 04:55 PM | Reply

right. you can't say how much or why your taxes went up......but they just went up....because Snoofy told you so.

and you expect anybody to believe that tripe.

-my conscience is clear.

again, either lying...or you have no conscience.

#89 | Posted by eberly at 2019-11-19 04:59 PM | Reply

again, either lying...
#89 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Try reading this again,

"The liar's punishment is, not in the least that he is not believed, but that he cannot believe anyone else."
-George Bernard Shaw

If you don't understand it, get Nulli to explain it to you.

#90 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-11-19 05:03 PM | Reply

I wish I understood business, law and finances,,

-Clownshart

#91 | Posted by eberly at 2019-11-19 05:06 PM | Reply

I wish I understood business, law and finances,,
-Clownshart
#91 | POSTED BY BEVERLY

That has nothing to do with knowing the difference in my paycheck and tax returns...

It had to do with investments, savings and retirement.

Why the desperation, Beverly?

#92 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-11-19 05:11 PM | Reply

Why the lies, Shart?

your taxes didn't go up and you know it...which is why you actually took a lifeline from snoofy, of all people, for help getting out of the c
You can't honestly name a single policy that has hurt you.

You've probably been negatively affected....but you need someone to tell you that. You can't figure it out for yourself, obviously.

#93 | Posted by eberly at 2019-11-19 05:18 PM | Reply

I'd love stay and chat about your increased taxes, shart....but I've got a basketball game to get to.

#94 | Posted by eberly at 2019-11-19 05:20 PM | Reply

your taxes didn't go up and you know it...

Thanks for telling me what I know.

How sad it must be to be unable to believe another person.

#95 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-11-19 05:23 PM | Reply

I'd love stay and chat about your increased taxes, shart....but I've got a basketball game to get to.
#94 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Liar.

#96 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-11-19 05:24 PM | Reply

"You can't honestly name a single policy that has hurt you."

I can: the new tax code. Even if he got a few bucks as crumbs, the world's wealthiest 1% are the only real beneficiaries, snaring 82% of the tax "cut" once the code comes to full fruition. And since the payback rates won't be 82% of the taxes for the 1%, folks like Clown and I are expected to be the ones paying it back. In fact, if the code lasts as long as the last one, it's actually a tax INCREASE for the middle class.

Ultimately, whatever few bucks Clown saved, he borrowed ~$11,000 to do it, just like every other income tax payer in America.

#97 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-11-19 05:24 PM | Reply

For me personally. Thanks to Trump's tax cut for himself. I lost a lot of my deductions and got back about $2k less than I normally do.

#98 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-11-19 05:39 PM | Reply

"I lost a lot of my deductions"

Every W-2 worker lost 100% of their employee deductions. A former client is a concertmaster, and four years ago purchased a $250,000 violin. I'm glad I wasn't around when his new preparer had to explain the $8000 he was expecting in refunds every year from depreciating the violin won't be happening anymore.

Another client was a frail old grandmother when I started doing her taxes 20 years ago. Now she's a 87 year old great-grandmother, and she's had the exact same numbers every year: same interest, same social security, same donations to her church...and same $600 refund. Last February, she got less than $300 for a refund. Why? The charity she gave to her church had always put her over the top in itemized deductions. Now, it didn't move the needle.

Speaking of, three days prior I had a newly-retired couple. They had no mortgage, no SALT to speak of, other than ~$500 in personal property taxes on their cars, and about $4K in real estate taxes. I said I'd sew the patient up, and the wife spoke up, saying she had charity donations. They've always donated ~$11K/year to their church and other good causes.

I looked at the form, did some quick math, and turned to her and said, "Joyce, you guys could've donated $22,000...and it wouldn't have moved the needle. I should NEVER be able to say that, ever, unless the taxpayer has no liability to start.

If ANYONE is looking for "hurt" in the new code, look at charities: the financial incentive to donate has been stripped away from the middle class of America.

#99 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-11-19 06:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Can't be a heart attack, he doesn't have one.

Can't be a stroke, he doesn't have a brain.

#100 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2019-11-19 11:24 PM | Reply

Trump heard the hospital was collecting donations for veterans so he ran over there to see what he could steal.

#101 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2019-11-20 12:40 AM | Reply

Anyone seen Trump lately?

#102 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-11-20 12:52 AM | Reply

Apparently the official story is he just went in for an annual physical.

abcnews.go.com

#103 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-11-20 01:12 AM | Reply

CLOWN

"Anyone seen Trump lately?"

If he's back and not a vegetable, the media isn't making a big deal out it.

There's a video of Trump but that could have been pre-recorded.

I keep hoping I'll wake up tomorrow and find the flags at half mast and people in the streets dancing the jig.

#104 | Posted by Twinpac at 2019-11-20 03:09 AM | Reply

#104

Even seen the movie Dave with Kevin Kline?

Decent flick. Surprisingly, potentially, currently applicable.

#105 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2019-11-20 03:25 AM | Reply

Look at his "live" Pic. Lookin bad.

#106 | Posted by fresno500 at 2019-11-20 06:42 AM | Reply

FRESNO

"Lookin bad."

Hospital pallor or normal look without TV makeup?

#107 | Posted by Twinpac at 2019-11-20 08:25 AM | Reply

Thanks RSTY

Always looking for something "good."

Found it on E-bay and ordered it.

#108 | Posted by Twinpac at 2019-11-20 08:45 AM | Reply

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