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Tuesday, November 26, 2019

Michelle Goldberg: There are two very big lies that Donald Trump and his sycophants have used, through aggressive, bombastic repetition, to shape the public debate about impeachment, and about Trump's legitimacy more broadly. The first big lie is that "the people" elected Trump, and that the constitutional provision of impeachment would invalidate their choice. ... The second big lie is that Russia didn't help elect Trump, and that the president has been absolved of collusion.

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The first big lie is that "the people" elected Trump, and that the constitutional provision of impeachment would invalidate their choice. In fact, Trump is president only because a constitutional provision invalidated the choice of the American people. Trump lost the popular vote and might have lost the Electoral College without Russian interference, and yet many Democrats and pundits have been bullied into accepting the fiction that he has democratic, and not just constitutional, legitimacy.

The second big lie is that Russia didn't help elect Trump, and that the president has been absolved of collusion. It's true that the report by Robert Mueller, the former special counsel, did not find enough evidence to prove a criminal conspiracy between Trump's campaign and Russian state actors. But the Mueller report found abundant evidence that the campaign sought Russian help, benefited from that help and obstructed the F.B.I. investigation into Russian actions. His investigation resulted in felony convictions for Trump's former campaign chairman, deputy campaign chairman, personal lawyer, first national security adviser, and longtime political adviser, among others.

Had public life in America not been completely deformed by blizzards of official lies, right-wing propaganda and the immovable wall of Republican bad faith, the Mueller report would have ended Trump's minoritarian presidency.

#1 | Posted by tonyroma at 2019-11-26 05:33 AM | Reply

the Mueller report would have ended Trump's minoritarian presidency.

#1 | Posted by tonyroma at 2019-11-26 05:33 AM | Reply

Heart disease will get him.

#2 | Posted by Zed at 2019-11-26 08:21 AM | Reply

Lies atop lies.

How could this possibly go wrong?

#3 | Posted by LostAngeles at 2019-11-26 03:48 PM | Reply

When one has TDS the belief continues until institutionalized.

#4 | Posted by MSgt at 2019-11-26 04:14 PM | Reply

When one has TDS the belief continues until institutionalized.

#4 | POSTED BY MSGT

TDS claims.

The mark of a true ------.

Does it hurt being that stupid and gullible?

#5 | Posted by jpw at 2019-11-26 04:41 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Trump has always been a piece of S!. No derangement needed to see that he should not be running anything.

#6 | Posted by hamburglar at 2019-11-26 06:20 PM | Reply

MSGT is posting his Ruskie propaganda as Putin's DNA is dripping off his chin.

#7 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2019-11-26 07:49 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Holy crap, two year Mueller investigation run by Democrats down the drain proving Goldberg wrong. I feel bad for Dems on Thanksgiving, sitting around miserable, taking turns bitching about Trump, can't watch football because any second they think MSNBC will come up with something new that might get Trump out of office. Boo hoo crybabies. LOL

#8 | Posted by fishpaw at 2019-11-27 10:05 AM | Reply

U.S.-In honor of Thanksgiving week, the nation's progressives have begun to give thanks that they have so much to be angry and offended about this year.
"Thank you, unspecified deity who may or may not exist, for giving us so much stuff to be outraged about," said Staci Walder, 42, of Portland, as she prepared her vegan, kale-wrapped turkey. "I'm truly humbled that you've blessed me with the Trump presidency, the patriarchy, the laws of economics, and biological facts to rage against."
"Every year, it's important to pause and recognize how much we have to be angry about."

Perfect

#9 | Posted by fishpaw at 2019-11-27 10:07 AM | Reply

"...two year Mueller investigation run by Democrats"

Can you taste the stupid when you post something that dumb?

#10 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-11-27 10:21 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

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#10 Do you know who Andrew Weissmann is Dummy? And for 2 years yaps like you told us "wait for the Mueller report", "wait for the Mueller report". Then it came out and Barr said no collusion. You morons then said Barr was full of it and you wanted to read it. Well it came out and everyone read it with a microscope and it still showed no collusion so you said Mueller needs to testify. Well he testified and still no collusion. What else have you got? Accept it, she lost, she was a crappy candidate, and your new band of clowns are not any better, if they were you wouldn't have a new one dropping in every week.

#11 | Posted by fishpaw at 2019-11-27 10:45 AM | Reply

Well he testified and still no collusion.

#11 | POSTED BY FISHPAW

You're full of crap. Even Mueller was NOT willing to say there was NO collusion. The only ones saying there is NO collusion are Trump sycophants.

Answer these.. Collusion or not, did Russia interfere with the 2016 election?

Why have Trump and McConnell done so little to help secure American elections from foreign influence?

Aren't Republicans still derelict in their duties to defend our nation, by doing so little to secure our elections?

#12 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2019-11-27 11:29 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Liberals need something new to say. They started doing it with W and have just gotten worse. Nothing they disagree with anymore can be a difference of opinion. If a Liberal doesn't agree with something, then they either say it's a lie or it's racist. Republican idiocy is winning because Liberals are even worse. When will they get smart and start coming up with new strategies?

#13 | Posted by humtake at 2019-11-27 11:44 AM | Reply

Well he testified and still no collusion.

#11 | POSTED BY FISHPAW

Wrong.

A. He answered questions in writing. If you had bothered to read the Mueller report you would know that he perjured himself in those questions.

B. There was collusion. Period.

#14 | Posted by Nixon at 2019-11-27 12:43 PM | Reply

I heard an elderly white voter say that election meddling is just part of life and we should get over it - this was on NPR.

The main hole in this argument is that we ensure free & fair elections in many other nations worldwide.

If our own domestic elections are not secure how can we be trusted on the world stage?

Short answer: We can't

If you apologize for Trump or any Soviet interference in our elections process I encourage you to expatriate as soon as possible.

KEE-YA!

#15 | Posted by LostAngeles at 2019-11-27 01:31 PM | Reply

When one has TDS the belief continues until institutionalized.

#4 | Posted by MSgt a

TDS - the condition where you believe the world's most famous liar above anyone else.

#16 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-11-27 02:04 PM | Reply

Liberals need something new to say. They started doing it with W and have just gotten worse. Nothing they disagree with anymore can be a difference of opinion. If a Liberal doesn't agree with something, then they either say it's a lie or it's racist. Republican idiocy is winning because Liberals are even worse. When will they get smart and start coming up with new strategies?

#13 | Posted by humtake

Republicans have decided that facts are just opinions.

Climate change is not an opinion. Trump paying off stormy daniels is not an opinion. Trump obstructing congress is not an opinion.

Your cult just whines that anything you can't refute is "just, like, someone's OPINION maaaan."

#17 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-11-27 02:06 PM | Reply

Well it came out and everyone read it with a microscope and it still showed no collusion so you said Mueller needs to testify. Well he testified and still no collusion. What else have you got? Accept it, she lost, she was a crappy candidate, and your new band of clowns are not any better, if they were you wouldn't have a new one dropping in every week.

#11 | Posted by fishpaw

Maybe if you lie about the mueller report enough times it will become true.

What it said is it COULD NOT ESTABLISH collusion, (because trump obstructed the investigation), and that he obstructed justice 10 times.

Tell me patriot, should the president be allowed to obstruct justice?

#18 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-11-27 02:08 PM | Reply

Well it came out and everyone read it with a microscope and it still showed no collusion

Haha...clearly not everyone read it with a microscope if that's what you think the conclusion is. Starting with you. You did not read it, obviously. Those of us who did are pretty clear about what happened. Barr wasn't quick enough, but he sure gave it the ol' college try. It almost worked.

#19 | Posted by chuffy at 2019-11-27 03:05 PM | Reply

I'm interested to see how the next Democratic president handles doing whatever they want, based on the rules laid out by Orange #45. Time for a readjustment, methinks.

#20 | Posted by chuffy at 2019-11-27 03:07 PM | Reply

"I'm interested to see how the next Democratic president handles doing whatever they want"

Why wait?

Why shouldn't Biden just ask Iran to hack into Saudi Arabia and get details of the business deals with Jared? He can promise new A-15s once the dirt is delivered.

I mean...hey, Republicans...that's all kosher, right?

#21 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-11-27 03:14 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"I'm interested to see how the next Democratic president handles doing whatever they want"

I'm interested to see how Republicans who won't lift a finger to reign in the President will suddenly be all agreeable about reigning in the President.

#22 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-11-27 03:30 PM | Reply

"everyone read it with a microscope and it still showed no collusion"

Wow...three lies in one phrase. How positively Presidential.

#23 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-11-27 03:31 PM | Reply

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