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Tuesday, November 26, 2019

Unreal piece. -Obama would try to "stop" Bernie from winning if he thought Sanders had a chance (insanely dismissive) -He doesn't think Harris can appeal to black voters -He is "skeptical" of Buttigieg -Obama sees Warren support as a slight against him -Obama's views on Biden's candidacy weren't pretty either... Obama is going to vote for Bloomberg, isn't he?

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"Sometimes he offers candid advice about his visitors' strengths and weaknesses. With several lesser-known candidates, according to people who have talked to him or been briefed on his meetings, he was blunt about the challenges of breaking out of a large field. His advice is not always heeded. He told Patrick earlier this year that it was likely "too late" for him to secure "money and talent" if he jumped in the race. Occasionally, he can be cutting. With one candidate, he pointed out that during his own 2008 campaign, he had an intimate bond with the electorate, especially in Iowa, that he no longer has. Then he added, "And you know who really doesn't have it? Joe Biden."

#1 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2019-11-26 12:37 PM | Reply

The thing is.... were he able to run, Obama would be the next President.

Maybe any Obama.

#2 | Posted by Corky at 2019-11-26 02:57 PM | Reply

#2

That's telling, Corky. Even Obama knows the Democrats are weak. If Pete wins Iowa, and Warren wins NH, they're gonna get creamed.

#3 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2019-11-26 04:48 PM | Reply

Obama throws Biden under the bus. Gory video at 11.

#4 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-11-26 04:52 PM | Reply

Obama = corporate sellout

Bernie represents the issues that have strong bipartisan majorities ...

Allow Government to Negotiate Drug Prices (79%)
Give Students the Same Low Interest Rates as Big Banks (78%)
Universal Pre-Kindergarten (77%)
Fair Trade that Protect Workers, the Environment, and Jobs (75%)
End Tax Loopholes for Corporations that Ship Jobs Overseas (74%)
End Gerrymandering (73%)
Let Homeowners Pay Down Mortgage With 401k (72%)
Debt-Free College at All Public Universities (Message A) (71%)
Infrastructure Jobs Program -- $400 Billion / Year (71%)
Require NSA to Get Warrants (71%)
Disclose Corporate Spending on Politics/Lobbying (71%)
Medicare Buy-In for All (71%)
Close Offshore Corporate Tax Loopholes (70%)
Green New Deal -- Millions Of Clean-Energy Jobs (70%)
Full Employment Act (70%)
Expand Social Security Benefits (70%)

All of the above are in line with Bernie Sanders' politics and all are extremely popular, with support across the political spectrum.


If Bernie, Tulsi, or Yang, and even Warren, don't become the nominee, I do have some place to go voting wise -- and it won't be Trump and it won't be an Obama-Clinton-endorsed Dem corporate hack.

Republican Party = party of the 1% = The Plutocrats

Democratic Party = party of the 10% = The Professional Class

Hope and change my ass -- and I twice voted for this guy AND Hillary in 2016.

Obama = corporate sellout

#5 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-11-26 05:13 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

- I do have some place to go voting wise

Where's that, Trump's pocket?

#6 | Posted by Corky at 2019-11-26 07:45 PM | Reply

0Republican Party = party of white indentity politics

Democratic Party = party of visual inclustion (but not too much)

Obama = even with white identity politics lined up solidly against him, if he could run again he would be an immediate threat. (enough said)

#7 | Posted by fresno500 at 2019-11-26 08:02 PM | Reply

"I do have some place to go voting wise"

Where's that, Trump's pocket?

#6 | POSTED BY CORKY

I just said it would not be Trump.

Read much?

Myopia much?

Republican much?

#8 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-11-26 08:57 PM | Reply

Obfuscate much?

You didn't answer the question.... who will you be throwing your vote away on if you don't get your way, and how happy will Trump be about people who do so?

#9 | Posted by Corky at 2019-11-26 10:00 PM | Reply

Seems like unnamed sources and hearsay are cool again.

#10 | Posted by bored at 2019-11-26 10:44 PM | Reply

You didn't answer the question.... who will you be throwing your vote away on if you don't get your way, and how happy will Trump be about people who do so?

#9 | POSTED BY CORKY

"Demos" means people and democracy.

So what does the Democratic Party stand for?

The Democratic Party DEFINITELY DOES NOT stand for 'We The People' because if it did then all those issues having strong bipartisan majorities listed in post #5 would be embraced by Establishment Democrats ...

Plus the Democratic Party would be FULLY embracing Democratic presidential candidates like Bernie Sanders.

Since your retort will be that Bernie isn't really a Democrat, I'll remind you that Obama ALSO isn't really a Democrat -- Obama is actually an admitted moderate Republican ... youtu.be

You need to follow Obama's example and just become a Republican with the rest of the corporatized lemmings.

I will vote, and it won't be for Trump or for any Democrat not named Bernie, Tulsi, Yang, Warren [maybe].

#11 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-11-27 07:42 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The idea that it's the voters fault for not being persuaded is just flat-out effing ridiculous.

It's the candidate's fault for not persuading people to vote for them. Period. End stop. Tattoo that on your forehead as a reminder.

#12 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-11-27 07:49 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

^^^ I hope Mayor Pete hears you.

#13 | Posted by fresno500 at 2019-11-27 09:54 AM | Reply

- It's the candidate's fault for not persuading people to vote for them.

You mean how Bernie lost the Dem primary in a landslide?

M'k.

Reading is your friend:

chomsky.info

#14 | Posted by Corky at 2019-11-27 10:16 AM | Reply

"Obama = corporate sellout"

He brought the most significant improvement to our healthcare system since Medicare. You weren't satisfied, I get that, but the political reality was that he brought what was possible to get passed in Congress. Folks like you, with unrealistic expectations, end up preventing rather than encouraging progress.

#15 | Posted by danni at 2019-11-27 10:27 AM | Reply

Reading is your friend:

chomsky.info

#14 | POSTED BY CORKY

Chomsky thinks the Republican Party is a group of extremist nutjobs.

And so does ex-Republican Mike Lofgren.

That's an ideological, liberal and conservative, bi-partisan consensus that I also agree with ...

And rightfully Chomsky thinks Russiagate is ---------, which you naively disagree with, and where I agree with Chomsky.

Get back to me when you're ready to talk real issues like what Bernie Sanders advocates

#16 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-11-27 10:44 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

#15 | POSTED BYDANNI

I cited for years on this website healthcare quality expert Dr. Kizer's (who sits on the Institute of Medicine's board) explaination that due to the overall aging of the population, healthcare costs would continue to rise for the another 10 to 20 years ...

Obamacare is a Republican healthcare plan that still allows wholesale gouging by Big Pharma and the Health Insurance industry.

And while Obamacare is better than nothing -- which was the case prior to 2009 -- there's still miles upon miles of obvious improvement that can easily be solved by Medicare-for-all.

#17 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-11-27 10:52 AM | Reply

You didn't answer the question.... who will you be throwing your vote away on if you don't get your way, and how happy will Trump be about people who do so?

#9 | POSTED BY CORKY

The only votes thrown away are the votes not cast.

#18 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2019-11-27 02:40 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Votes are thrown away when they don't support the better set of policies for America that have a chance to win.

And often they are not merely thrown away, they actually help the worse set of policies for America.

#19 | Posted by Corky at 2019-11-27 02:52 PM | Reply

Votes are thrown away when they don't support the better set of policies for America that have a chance to win.
And often they are not merely thrown away, they actually help the worse set of policies for America.

POSTED BY CORKY AT 2019-11-27 02:52 PM | REPLY

We're tired of your hornswoggle. Do you have a new shtick you can use???

#20 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2019-11-27 03:31 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Do you have a new shtick you can use???"

Other than math?

Ultimately, one of two parties will win. If it's Trump, he'll assume everyone who didn't vote for the Democrat, supported him.

#21 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-11-27 03:40 PM | Reply

Ultimately, one of two parties will win. If it's Trump, he'll assume everyone who didn't vote for the Democrat, supported him.

POSTED BY DANFORTH AT 2019-11-27 03:40 PM | REPLY

Why do you care what he thinks??

#22 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2019-11-27 03:54 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Why do you care what he thinks??"

He'll use it as justfication for even worse schittt than he's been pulling to date.

#23 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-11-27 04:13 PM | Reply

He'll use it as justfication for even worse schittt than he's been pulling to date.

POSTED BY DANFORTH AT 2019-11-27 04:13 PM | REPLY

So?? Let him screech on. He'll make any justification out of anything. Like I said above the only wasted vote is the one not cast.

#24 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2019-11-27 04:24 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Like I said above the only wasted vote is the one not cast."

Trump supporters everywhere thank you.

#25 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-11-27 04:46 PM | Reply

Trump supporters everywhere thank you.

POSTED BY DANFORTH AT 2019-11-27 04:46 PM | REPLY

Yawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnn more Garbage Danforth?? Sad to see.

#26 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2019-11-27 04:49 PM | Reply

"Sad to see."

Of the two realistic choices, has one fought more for your rights? Has one tried to legislate you out of existence?

It's got garbage to state, truthfully, that if Trump supporters heard a trans woman wasn't going to vote for the Democrat, they'd be grateful. If you can't handle the truth, just admit as much.

#27 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-11-27 04:56 PM | Reply

^"It's got garbage" = it's NOT garbage

#28 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-11-27 05:03 PM | Reply

Trump supporters everywhere thank you.

#25 | POSTED BY DANFORTH

Wrong

Trump lies thru his teeth about jobs and healthcare and many desperate people mistakely buy into it ...

While Democrats not named Bernie, Tulsi, Yang, and Warren refuse, per the big money donor Democratic Party Establishment, to offer ANYTHING of substance that would improve the lives of ordinary Americans.

Why can't you see this?

#29 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-11-27 05:32 PM | Reply

Warren's waffling on healthcare has cost her in the polls; it's going to be tough for her for a bit. The big money media doesn't like her as much as they do Biden, Buttigieg, Bloomberg, because she's fought loudly against Wall St. in the past and will in the future. I'm voting Bernie but would put money on Warren getting the nom. Too many people are noticing Biden's gaffes and how age is starting to catch up with him; didn't his eye start bleeding during one of the debates? Buttigieg just doesn't have the grassroots support like Bernie, who would stand with Warren when the time comes.

I don't dislike any of the Dem candidates, I dislike that the media downplays a certain few while putting their favorites on blast.

#30 | Posted by hamburglar at 2019-11-27 06:14 PM | Reply

"Trump lies thru his teeth about jobs and healthcare and many desperate people mistakely buy into it ..."

Well, by all means, then don't vote for the guy or gal running against him.

"per the big money donor Democratic Party Establishment, to offer ANYTHING of substance that would improve the lives of ordinary Americans."

You seem to define "ANYTHING of substance" ala Humpty Dumpty.

"Why can't you see this?"

I don't believe imperfection is the enemy of the better.

Better a diamond with a flaw than a pebble without.
~Confucious

#31 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-11-27 07:22 PM | Reply

I have a different take on Bloomberg. First, I don't think he's a serious candidate and I know he'd like to blow Trump to smithereens.

I also know that Bloomberg has more money to spend than all the other candidates together and he apparently doesn't have any limits.

Suppose, Bloomberg is really helping the other candidates (on purpose) by using his money to do to what none of the others have the money to do. If so, I would say let him have at it. By self-funding, he's cleverly by-passing all the rules about donation limits, those nasty PACs and he doesn't have to make up any "zingers" against the other candidates.

Listening to Bloomberg talk, he's more interested is the annihilation of Trump than he is becoming president. Any why not? He has all the money he could ever want and the influence that goes with it. (Presidents have to follow too many rules)

To the other Dem candidates I say stop bellyaching. Bloomberg is doing you a favor. Let him roll with it.

#32 | Posted by Twinpac at 2019-11-28 09:21 AM | Reply

If I was standing beside Bloomberg I'd smile and give him "the look" that says, "I know what you're doing." ~ LOL

He'd probably wink at me which is code for Shhhhh.

#33 | Posted by Twinpac at 2019-11-28 09:28 AM | Reply

Well, by all means, then don't vote for the guy or gal running against him.

#31 | POSTED BY DANFORTH

The idea that it's the voters fault for not being persuaded is just flat-out effing ridiculous.

It's the candidate's fault for not persuading people to vote for them. Period. End stop. Tattoo that on your forehead as a reminder.

Trump is garbage, and any Democratic candidate not named Bernie, Tulsi, Yang, Warren is also crap.

I know a good tattoo shop to send you to, so you can ink this very correct idea on your fat forehead so you'll be able to remember it as a reference for future discussions.

#34 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-11-28 09:32 AM | Reply

Why do we have to belong to a party (team) to be a good American and vote for who we believe will be best for our country? Those two parties need each other. They, more or less, broker power between themselves in order to get what they want. In the end, it's more than not, a compromise. The majority isn't the ones calling the shots, it's the rich and powerful who send the crumbs down to the common folks.

I refuse to vote for a corporate whore, period. It doesn't matter what letter follows their name. America is on a crash course because the rich are bleeding the middle class of their last few drops life at present. And any of you who play party politics are being taken for a ride. Just look at my posts over the last 3-4 years. If I part with a dirty democrat, the left attacks. If I call out Trump for the crook he is, the right attacks. I'm done with parties. I'm waiting for the day that consciousnesses returns to the average American and we elect a sensible leader that isn't sold to the highest bidder.

#35 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2019-11-28 10:03 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

A close family friend told me, "Remember he ran to the right of Hillary in 2008 on a lot of issues, and because he happened to be young and new on the scene and he happened to be African American, people just assumed that he would be running as a community organizer. And the reality is, on many issues he was running equal to or to the right of her. His politics are not strong left of center. I mean it's left, but he's nowhere near where some of the candidates are currently sitting, at least when he got himself elected."

Who is the Obama in 2020? Steve Bullock?

#36 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2019-11-28 12:06 PM | Reply

"The idea that it's the voters fault for not being persuaded is just flat-out effing ridiculous."

The idea there are two possible winners isn't.

Nor is the idea the choices are spectral opposites.

#37 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-11-28 02:16 PM | Reply

"The idea that it's the voters fault for not being persuaded is just flat-out effing ridiculous."

The idea there are two possible winners isn't.

Nor is the idea the choices are spectral opposites.

#37 | POSTED BY DANFORTH

It's called a conundrum.

Look it up, then get back too me.

And conundrums are broken by changing the equation of what created the status quo in the first place.

In other words, don't be a hack.

#38 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-11-28 03:54 PM | Reply

"It's called a conundrum. Look it up, then get back too me.

I just love condescension sprinkled with ignorance.

"conundrums are broken by changing the equation of what created the status quo in the first place."

And failure is achieved by missing all the steps in-between. You want M4A? Get single payer. You want to lose? Demand M4A first.

"In other words, don't be a hack."

I couldn't have said it better myself.

#39 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-11-28 04:11 PM | Reply

I just love condescension sprinkled with ignorance.

#39 | POSTED BYDANFORTH

Exactly -- two strikes and YOU'RE out.

#40 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-11-28 04:56 PM | Reply

"two strikes and YOU'RE out."

Don't you mean "too" strikes?

And do you get if you insist on M4A, you'll lose, but a public option, you might win?

#41 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-11-28 05:48 PM | Reply

Are you willing to lose the Presidency over the fight for M4A? Yes or no?

#42 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-11-28 06:01 PM | Reply

DANFORTH

"Are you willing to lose the Presidency over the fight for M4A? Yes or no?"

Apparently Warren is. That's why I've crossed her off. Frankly I'm not willing to totally dump Obamacare based on Warren's 10 year cost projection. We don't even know where this country is going to be 10 years from now . . . or even five years from now. If history is any teacher the Repubs are bound to come up with another dipstick like Trump or worse. The gamble is too risky and voters are too fickle.

And I don't think the Russians are through messing with us either.

#43 | Posted by Twinpac at 2019-11-28 07:23 PM | Reply

"Why do we have to belong to a party (team) to be a good American and vote for who we believe will be best for our country?"

Because no third party candidate has ever won the Presidency. Teddy Roosevelt tried and even he lost. Our system is a "winner takes all" system, we could change that and make it more possible for third party candidates to win but, so far, we haven't done that. Face the facts: either the Democrat or the Republican nominee will win the Presidency in 2020, like it or not.

#44 | Posted by danni at 2019-11-29 08:39 AM | Reply

"And I don't think the Russians are through messing with us either."

Yes they are going to be helping Trump again but, more importantly, the Republicans are already cheating by disenfranchising voters in many states. In Georgia alone they plan on disenfranchising 300,000 voters before the 2020 election. Realize their present crook governor won by far fewer than that number of votes. Stacy Abrams hired Greg Palast's team of investigators who got the list of disenfranchised voters and went through it name by name, checking to see if they moved, etc. to find any excuse for them being knocked off the rolls of registered voters.

"I sued #BrianKemp to get the names of the voters he'd #purged from the rolls. Turns out they were removed because they supposedly moved. But we found out that at least 340,134 had never, ever moved from their registration address, yet they lost their vote."

Greg Palast

I'm far more worried about Republican cheating than Russian interference.

#45 | Posted by danni at 2019-11-29 08:45 AM | Reply

--Greg Palast

Total moonbat. Kinda like an Alex Jones of the Left. Complete nutter.

#46 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-11-29 08:52 AM | Reply

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