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Thursday, December 05, 2019

[Hillary Clinton] blames -- at least in part -- her loss in the 2016 election to President Donald Trump on Sanders' slow-roll of an endorsement of her candidacy -- and the lack of unity that signaled. (Clinton made similar allegations against Sanders in her 2017 memoir about the race, saying that Sanders' attacks against her did "lasting damage" to her chances in the general election.)

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Hillary Rodham excuse #1284

She'll never admit what everyone else knows except for C'rky. She sucks. She will always suck.

#1 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-12-05 01:19 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 2

She sucks. She will always suck.
#1 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN

No, Monica sucks, Hillary blows.

#2 | Posted by 6thPersona at 2019-12-05 02:12 PM | Reply

Hillary needs to take a vacation until after the election in 2020.

#3 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2019-12-05 02:54 PM | Reply

Poor Hillary -- she can't win a rigged election and is still the sorest loser ever.

And I voted for her.

I will never make that mistake ever again.

#4 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-12-05 03:22 PM | Reply

Whine one one We have an urgent Emergency. Hillary is whining AGAIN.

#5 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2019-12-05 04:34 PM | Reply

I don't know that I've ever witnessed a more excuse-driven politician than Hillary.

#6 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-12-05 05:05 PM | Reply

I guess you missed Reagan not remembering anything about Iran-Contra.

Actually, what's happening here, is in your mind, you are unable to see that as an excuse.

#7 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-12-05 05:08 PM | Reply

She doesn't blame herself. Her level of denial is only surpassed by Trump.

#8 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2019-12-05 05:10 PM | Reply

Reagan had dementia. Hillary has delusions.

#9 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2019-12-05 05:12 PM | Reply

She doesn't blame herself. Her level of denial is only surpassed by Trump.

POSTED BY LEE_THE_AGENT AT 2019-12-05 05:10 PM | REPLY

Her supporters don't blame her either. They'd rather blame people like me.

#10 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2019-12-05 05:39 PM | Reply

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Bitter bitter bitter Sanders supporters are they can't stand how he didn't go far.

Foot-dragging goldbricking that's what he was best at, he did all that as Putin laughed.

#11 | Posted by Tor at 2019-12-05 06:01 PM | Reply

Angry Uncle Corn Pop losing his cool.

"Democratic presidential contender Joe Biden on Thursday calls a man in Iowa a "damn liar" and "fat" and "too old to vote for me" after the man accuses Biden of getting his son Hunter a job with a Ukrainian gas company."

Haha. Will Hairy Legs make it to Iowa without an asthma attack?

#12 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-12-05 06:14 PM | Reply

It's Chris Cillizza

#13 | Posted by hamburglar at 2019-12-05 06:16 PM | Reply

The worst thing about the whole #BernieWouldHaveWon debacle is that Bernie would have won.

#14 | Posted by hamburglar at 2019-12-05 06:17 PM | Reply

Who?

#15 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-12-05 06:20 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Whether it was Sanders or Russia or media coverage or over confidence or the basket of deplorables comment or under campaigning or telling people their jobs were never coming back or her It's My Turn! attitude or secret speeches to Wall Street or rigging of the Democratic primaries or her expectations of the American public or her health or her dodging gun fire in a war zone or Pizzagate or Benghazi or the hot sauce she carries in her purse or her inability to debate Trump or Bill's extramarital affairs or 30 years of baggage or a fluke or a sabotage...

It doesn't matter. What's in the past is in the past.

She vented her frustrations on Howard, which is great for his show. And now CNN is covering it. Which is great for his show. Good move by him.

Americans need to look at who's got our best interests, and the best interests for the future of our nation, at heart. Focusing on tabloid BS from 3 years ago won't help us in the 2020 election.

#16 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-12-05 06:47 PM | Reply

Who?
#15 | POSTED BY ANDREAMACKRIS

hehehe

#17 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2019-12-05 07:09 PM | Reply

Clinton didn't need any help losing to Ranty McCheeseburger.

She was an unimaginably crappy candidate.

#18 | Posted by contrecoup at 2019-12-05 08:19 PM | Reply

Were those sanders supporters having a hard time counting Hillary won the Primary and the popular vote. And she did so without your help.

#19 | Posted by Tor at 2019-12-05 08:22 PM | Reply

Of course this is true. She lost by 77,000 votes in 3 states out of 120,000,000 votes. You can point to anything and it would be true when the numbers are that close.

Did Sanders have an affect on those 77k? Again, of course he did.

#20 | Posted by prius04 at 2019-12-05 08:42 PM | Reply

Technically, anyone who ever criticizes any politician in any way helps elect their opponents.

What really helped elect trump is the dem voters who nominated a corporate status quo defender in a year when the world was feeling a populist anti elitist fever. Repubs nominated their populist and won. Dems didn't nominate their populist and lost.

#21 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-12-05 09:41 PM | Reply

Of course this is true. She lost by 77,000 votes in 3 states out of 120,000,000 votes. You can point to anything and it would be true when the numbers are that close.

Did Sanders have an affect on those 77k? Again, of course he did.

#20 | Posted by prius04

Exactly. IN a close election, every factor can be accurately called the deciding factor.

Her secret speeches to wall street was THE deciding factor.

Her vote for the iraq war was THE deciding factor.

James comey's fake investigation announcement was THE deciding factor.

Russian propaganda efforts were THE deciding factor.

#22 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-12-05 09:44 PM | Reply

If hillary really cared about the future of liberal priorities, she would just go away and lie low for the rest of her life. Her staying in the limelight doesn't help dems in any way, and it helps motivate republicans. She's smart enough to know this, but too egotistical and self centered to care.

#23 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-12-05 09:45 PM | Reply

Clinton says Sanders Helped Elect Trump.

Bernie voted for Trump? WOW I didn't see that coming.

#24 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2019-12-05 09:50 PM | Reply

Was it Bernie that told Hillary to ignore Wisconsin and Michigan?

#25 | Posted by 503jc69 at 2019-12-05 10:54 PM | Reply

"Compared to the Clintons, Trump is a boy scout. "

Compared to morons, you're a moron's moron.

But what else should anyone expect from someone with your loser track record? Why, you're so smart, you lost money in the markets while a simple index fund investor more than doubled his. Way to show them how smart you are, Fredo!

#26 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-12-05 11:26 PM | Reply

"Way to show them how smart you are, Fredo!"

Oops... I mean Ray-doh. Heavy on the "doh!"

#27 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-12-05 11:28 PM | Reply

Its true.

#28 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2019-12-06 02:59 AM | Reply

If hillary really cared about the future of liberal priorities, she would just go away and lie low for the rest of her life. Her staying in the limelight doesn't help dems in any way, and it helps motivate republicans. She's smart enough to know this, but too egotistical and self centered to care.

#23 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY AT 2019-12-05 09:45 PM | REPLY | FLAG:EYE ROLL

The fact that Hillary still managed to win the popular vote under the circumstances indicated that more wanted her than Trumplethinskin is a major historical coup for women inspite of all the attention to the fat bloated MALE opponent. The worldwide protests...let me say it again WORLD'WIDE protests over the election results. You are really stupid for underestimating what she accomplished and whom she inspired and continues to inspire. WTF have you done with your life? Eh big shot? You want to be mad at her for losing the electoral vote which everyone knows is intentionally rigged.

Hillary changed the world for the better for women. Hillary always comes back better after a defeat. That you even think being "president" of the united states is the pinnacle of accomplishment ... well that is just more of the US ego tripping (bought into by people like you) as the election of the orange clown demonstrates.

#29 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2019-12-06 03:26 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

The fact that Hillary still managed to win the popular vote under the circumstances indicated that more wanted her than Trumplethinskin is a major historical coup for women inspite of all the attention to the fat bloated MALE opponent. . . . Hillary changed the world for the better for women.

Hillary's run empowered a lot of women in this country and her electoral (college) defeat angered them, and they are a big reason for the Dems Blue Wave of victory in 2018:

"See Jane Win": How Democratic women drove the 2018 blue wave

In "See Jane Win," journalist Caitlin Moscatello takes a deeper look at the women who took back power in 2018

www.salon.com

#30 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-12-06 08:15 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I guess her idea is that the party leaders should select the candidate so we can do away with the primary process. Primaries contrast candidates and make their negatives more clear. Any pointing out of a candidates negatives helps the opposing party should that candidate win the nomination.

#31 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2019-12-06 08:24 AM | Reply

The fact that Hillary still managed to win the popular vote under the circumstances indicated that more wanted her than Trumplethinskin is a major historical coup for women inspite of all the attention to the fat bloated MALE opponent. . . . Hillary changed the world for the better for women.#29 | POSTED BY RIGHTISTRITE AT 2019-12-06 03:26 AM | FLAG:

The fact she lost period shows what a moron and her handlers were. She wants to add Bernie to her long list of excuses? Sure Hillary, how about the fact that you cheated him in the primary and then said all his supporters were Bernie Bots who lived in their parent's basement. That was another smart move. I'm sure those supporters appreciated that and came out in droves to support the idiot.

#32 | Posted by fishpaw at 2019-12-06 09:52 AM | Reply

Trump won the 2016 election... get over it...

#33 | Posted by Pegasus at 2019-12-06 09:55 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I think she has lost her mind

proven and admitted to that the Dem Primaries were fixed against Bernie and his SUPPORTERS and she is still complaining.

Poor Bernie

#34 | Posted by Maverick at 2019-12-06 10:07 AM | Reply

Clinton not anyone who voted for her admits publicly (or privately?) why she lost, that involves her absolutely SUCKING!

NO ONE.

The DNC stole the nomination from Sanders and Jezebel victim-blames HIM! What an awful person.

#35 | Posted by drivelikejehu at 2019-12-06 11:03 AM | Reply

Why wouldn't she concede election night?

#36 | Posted by drivelikejehu at 2019-12-06 11:04 AM | Reply

"Clinton not anyone who voted for her admits publicly (or privately?) why she lost, that involves her absolutely SUCKING!"

You despise powerful women. WE get it. She lost because of voter suppression in three states. Pretend otherwise all you want but numbers don't lie. Far more votes were suppressed than the margins by which she lost in those states.

#37 | Posted by danni at 2019-12-06 11:27 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

#37 Sure play the gender card Danni. She lost because voters didn't want another Clinton or another Bush as in Jeb Bush and because she was lazy and her handlers and the media had her winning in a landslide. Trump worked 4 times harder and it paid off. You are just like her, making stupid excuses for her being a bad, lazy candidate. Get over it.

#38 | Posted by fishpaw at 2019-12-06 11:42 AM | Reply

She lost because of voter suppression in three states.

Who feeds you this crap? Show me one person, just one who said they couldn't vote. If someone can't vote these days they are an idiot and shouldn't have the right to vote anyway.

#39 | Posted by fishpaw at 2019-12-06 11:45 AM | Reply

If someone can't vote these days they are an idiot and shouldn't have the right to vote anyway.

#39 | Posted by fishpaw at 2019-12-06 11:45 AMFlag: (Choose)FunnyNewsworthyOffensiveAbusive

The current governor of Georgia has a job for you.

#40 | Posted by Zed at 2019-12-06 11:48 AM | Reply

Trump won the 2016 election...

#33 | Posted by Pegasus at

You mean he "won". Trump's relationship with Putin puts the stink on that.

#41 | Posted by Zed at 2019-12-06 11:50 AM | Reply

Hillary changed the world for the better for women. Hillary always comes back better after a defeat. That you even think being "president" of the united states is the pinnacle of accomplishment ... well that is just more of the US ego tripping (bought into by people like you) as the election of the orange clown demonstrates.

#29 | Posted by RightisTrite

You think trump's presidency makes the world better for women? Because that's what hillary accomplished. Due to her long record of bad judgement - being on the wrong side of issues before changing to the right side -, her vote for the iraq war, her bribery from wall street, her corporate status quo strategy, she GOT trump elected. SHE made the choices that made her lose to donald fricking trump. If she was a better liberal or better candidate this whole thing would have been avoided. There isn't some group of passionate hillary lovers who are somehow going to be MORE inspired to vote democrat if hillary is out there whining about 2016. But you know who will? Republicans. She is their anti christ. And having her in the limelight helps repubs far more than it helps dems. If she cared about liberalism she would hide in the woods.

#42 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-12-06 02:05 PM | Reply

- She sucks. She will always suck.

Compared to you and Trump, she's Washington, Lincoln, and FDR all rolled into one.

She was always a better choice than Trump... as history will lament long after you have stopped servicing him.

#43 | Posted by Corky at 2019-12-06 03:05 PM | Reply

#42 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

I get it. You hate Hillary. But the fact of the matter is that more Democrats voted for Hillary than for Bernie (by a wide margin). Which means that Bernie was worse than Hillary. You complain about HILLARY not taking responsibility for losing for Trump. What about BERNIE taking responsibility for losing to Hillary. The margin was 55% to 43% (Hillary to Bernie). If Hillary was SO BAD, ask yourself why Bernie was unable to appeal and tell a compelling story to sooo many liberal voters.

At least Hillary was CLOSE to beating Trump (and even got more actual votes than him). Bernie was not even in the ballpark compared to Hillary, even ignoring superdelegates.

And you want her to go "hide in the woods"? Give me a F-ing break. She is a citizen of this country just like anyone else. Just because conservatives are sexist bigots who hate her guts does not mean that she does not have a right to participate in our national conversation. You are saying that she should surrender to that sexism and bigotry, to mold her reactions around making THEM happy. No wonder Bernie lost when he had appeasers like that as his base of support.

YOU go appease conservatives if you want. Don't say bad things about Trump. Don't react to the outlandish things he says (to normalize his brutish behavior). Tell them that they are smart for electing Trump and that we really want to be their friends and give them what they want so that they will vote for our candidates next time. Sacrifice everything you are and stand for so you can win the next election. Be just like a conservative.

Because I am not going to. And I would never advocate for another person to do so. If I have to debase myself, or demand other people debase themselves to win, then I don't want to win. There are more important things than winning the next election. Because, unlike you, I will be able to look myself in the eye come November 4th of next year, regardless of the outcome of the election.

#44 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2019-12-06 03:13 PM | Reply

My God. Get over it, children

#45 | Posted by wisgod at 2019-12-06 03:19 PM | Reply

At least Hillary was CLOSE to beating Trump (and even got more actual votes than him). Bernie was not even in the ballpark compared to Hillary, even ignoring superdelegates.

#44 | Posted by gtbritishskull

You have zero way of knowing that. Bernie and trump never went head to head. TONS of trump voters were "screw the corrupt system" voters who would have voted for a populist "screw the corrupt system" democrat if one was available. But none was, so they voted for a seemingly populist "screw the corrupt system" republican.

This isn't about me hating hillary. This is about me trying to win the next election. Hillary being in the spotlight doesnt make that easier and might make it harder.

#46 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-12-06 03:41 PM | Reply

That it was close enough for a primary to (allegedly) cost her the election is a testament to how terrible Hillary is. There has never been more of a tap-in in American electoral history, and she missed. She couldn't beat an overtly racist, lying, demented, self-proclaimed sex offender.

The Russian disinformation campaign did far more damage to her than Sanders. And anyone who doesn't want to compete in a spirited primary should GTFO of politics.

#47 | Posted by JOE at 2019-12-06 03:55 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

At least Hillary was CLOSE to beating Trump (and even got more actual votes than him). Bernie was not even in the ballpark compared to Hillary, even ignoring superdelegates.

What data do you have to support this? Aggregate polling showed Bernie beating Trump by more than Hillary IIRC.

#48 | Posted by JOE at 2019-12-06 03:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

For example, military voters in a hypthetical Dem nominee vs. Trump went 38% Sanders, but only 25% Clinton. Source: Military Times.

#49 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-12-06 03:59 PM | Reply

And Houseflies supported Hillary 3-1.

#50 | Posted by wisgod at 2019-12-06 04:49 PM | Reply

www.newsweek.com

Bernie Sanders supporters switched their allegiance to Donald Trump in large enough numbers... to sway the election for the real estate billionaire...


In each of the three states that ultimately swung the election for Trump"Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania"Trump's margin of victory over Clinton was smaller than the number of Sanders voters who gave him their vote.

Sanders -> Trump voters ...
WI: 51k
MI: 47k
PA: 116k

Trump win margin ...
WI: 22k
MI: 10k
PA: 44k

#51 | Posted by Idependant97 at 2019-12-06 10:52 PM | Reply

Yeah, because he wouldn't sit down and shut up like a good little ----.

#52 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2019-12-07 07:55 AM | Reply

"The fact she lost period shows what a moron and her handlers were."

I disagree. Hillary's menopause state doesn't show anything about the stupidity of her and her handlers.

#53 | Posted by sentinel at 2019-12-07 12:37 PM | Reply

"Why wouldn't she concede election night?"

It was perfectly reasonable for her not to, given how close the results were in several states. There's no rule that a candidate has to concede the same night as the election. It's when they drag it on in the way Al Gore and Norm Coleman did that it gets a bit too much.

#54 | Posted by sentinel at 2019-12-07 12:43 PM | Reply

"You despise powerful women. WE get it."

Haha, this is so similar to the arguments over the neutered Doctor Who (who was probably based on Hillary), it's hilarious!

#55 | Posted by sentinel at 2019-12-07 12:50 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Talk about bitter clingers, hillary is the queen of them.

#56 | Posted by MSgt at 2019-12-07 01:05 PM | Reply

#46 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

I wasn't actually claiming that Bernie would have lost to Trump. I actually DO think he would have, but that is my opinion. Just like it is YOUR opinion that he would have done better against Trump than Hillary.

My point was that Bernie lost to Hillary by a FAR larger margin than Hillary lost to Trump. You want to blame Hillary for Trump? If it is her fault for not beating Trump, wouldn't it also be BERNIE'S FAULT that he did not beat Hillary? And thereby Bernie's fault that Trump became President?

The fact of the matter is that it is the VOTERS' fault that Trump was elected. As well as their "fault" that Bernie lost and that Hillary won the nomination.

And if Bernie used his influence to encourage people (even unintentionally) to vote for Trump, it is valid to call him out on it (unless you think that is the preferred outcome). Just like it is valid to call out tactical mistakes Hillary's campaign made as you see them. Though, I would point out, Hillary IS NOT running this time, so I don't see much point in rubbing her face in her mistakes, since she won't have an opportunity to make them again (getting her to change her behavior will not have any effect on the election). But, Bernie IS running, and will LIKELY have the exact same opportunity to make the same mistake in the future that Hillary is pointing out. And for someone who CLAIMS to only be concerned about winning the next election, you seem to want to IGNORE criticism which can actually be relevant in the next election and instead perpetrate emotional attacks on and silence your favorite scapegoat for "why Trump won".

My point... Hillary speaking her opinion is unlikely to have any measurable effect on the next election. Bernie acting like a five year old after he loses again, and that carrying over to his base ALSO acting like five year olds, probably will.

#57 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2019-12-07 03:36 PM | Reply

Also my point... telling Hillary not to say anything because idiot conservatives are triggered by her is appeasement. You are doing EXACTLY what they want, and it won't do any good. If they don't have Hillary to whip up their emotions they will use Pelosi, or Warren, or find someone new (AOC, or Omar).

I will go ahead and Godwin this. Tactics like yours are why Nazi Germany was able to perpetrate the Holocaust. I thought most people had learned from the mistakes made then, but apparently not.

#58 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2019-12-07 03:43 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Let's just worry about beating Trump, ay??? My buddy (annoyingly) Hillary lover Facebook supporters seem to get this. Corky, let's kick his ass, even if it's Bernie or Liz front in line!!!

#59 | Posted by hamburglar at 2019-12-07 06:40 PM | Reply

I rememeber the day or two after the election hearing a Sanders supporter who voted for Trump being asked questions by a reporter. The reporter asked why. The supporter said that even though he couldn't stand Trump he wanted to send a message to the DNC to never do again what they did to Bernie

#60 | Posted by Idependant97 at 2019-12-07 10:53 PM | Reply

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