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Saturday, December 07, 2019

The House of Representatives' inquiry into President Trump's actions on Ukraine is not yet complete, but the evidence produced over the last two months is more than sufficient to persuade us that he should be impeached.

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#1 | Posted by hamburglar at 2019-12-07 08:25 PM | Reply

Evidence in Demspeak: partisanship, lies, opinion, ideology, innuendo, hearsay, 2nd hand hearsay, 3rd hand hearsay, tribalism, opposition by CIA and FBI, his hair, his orange skin, his Tweets, his braggadocio, his refusal to start a war with Iran, his refusal to sponsor the single payer option, his pullout of the Paris Climate Agreement, his beautiful wife and daughter, the wall, demeaning the media, low CNN viewership, media layoffs, Fox News, and last but not least--outing the Bidens.

Yes, by all means, Trump should be impeached.

#2 | Posted by Ray at 2019-12-07 09:03 PM | Reply | Funny: 2 | Newsworthy 2

Hardly surprising coming from the Left Angeles Times.

#3 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-12-07 09:16 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

One might have thought that even Ray-Ray would be bright enough to spot a con when he saw it... or at least patriotic enough not to want a Pres to continue in office when it has become obvious that he extorted an ally for personal gain.

Even some Republicans are no longer denying the facts.

#4 | Posted by Corky at 2019-12-07 09:58 PM | Reply

#3 is hardly a surprise coming from the rwing Trump licker.

#5 | Posted by Corky at 2019-12-07 09:59 PM | Reply

"The Times' editorial board was a reluctant convert to the impeachment cause. We worried that impeaching Trump on essentially a party-line vote would be divisive. It is also highly likely that Trump would be " will be " acquitted by the Republican-controlled Senate, and that, rightly or wrongly, he would point to that in his reelection campaign as exoneration.

But those concerns must yield to the overwhelming evidence that Trump perverted U.S. foreign policy for his own political gain. That sort of misconduct is outrageous and corrosive of democracy. It can't be ignored by the House, and it merits a full trial by the Senate on whether to remove him from office."

Check.

"Trump's defenders argue that the evidence against him on Ukraine is incomplete and thus inconclusive. They're correct that some potentially important witnesses " including acting Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney, who reportedly put the hold on the Ukrainian aid, and former national security advisor John Bolton, who reportedly objected to the efforts to persuade Ukraine to conduct the investigations " haven't testified.

But that is because Trump has objected to such testimony. Delaying impeachment because of no-show witnesses would reward Trump's obstructionism."

Check again. That was the laughable Turley Take; he said he couldn't tell if Trump were guilty or not because not enough higher up witnesses had testified, that is, those Trump won't allow to testify.

#6 | Posted by Corky at 2019-12-07 10:05 PM | Reply

BRAVO

#7 | Posted by e1g1 at 2019-12-07 10:31 PM | Reply

BRAVO
#7 | POSTED BY E1G1

Corky's favorite channel.

... divas and drama queens.

#8 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-12-07 11:05 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Is the Bravo channel still on the air, and if so, why?

#9 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-12-07 11:11 PM | Reply

#4 Ray is obsessed with gold. He thinks he might get some by lick the butt of the golden throne sitter.

#10 | Posted by bored at 2019-12-08 12:12 AM | Reply

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"Ray is obsessed with gold"

That's because Ray (by his own admission) doesn't know the first thing about investing, returns, diversification, or trends.

On this topic:
He didn't know the difference between the summary and the actual transcript.
He didn't know the summary scrubbed references Trump made to Burisma.
He didn't know Vindman was concerned about being thwarted when he tried to correct the summary.
He didn't know Sondland admitted everyone was in the loop.
He didn't know how the WB was connected to the release of some of the withheld money.
He didn't know Zelensky was slated to announce the false investigation two days later on CNN.
He didn't know Morrison hid the evidence of the call in the super-secret code word file.

Ray is obsessed with hiding his ignorance, so he makes statements he thinks make him look smart, when in fact they simply reveal his utter cluelessness.

#11 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-12-08 12:47 AM | Reply

Evidence in Demspeak: partisanship, lies, opinion, ideology, innuendo, hearsay, 2nd hand hearsay, 3rd hand hearsay, tribalism, opposition by CIA and FBI, his hair, his orange skin, his Tweets, his braggadocio, his refusal to start a war with Iran, his refusal to sponsor the single payer option, his pullout of the Paris Climate Agreement, his beautiful wife and daughter, the wall, demeaning the media, low CNN viewership, media layoffs, Fox News, and last but not least--outing the Bidens.

Yes, by all means, Trump should be impeached.

POSTED BY RAY AT 2019-12-07 09:03 PM | REPLY |

Oh for God sake STFU You don't vote so you don't count.

#12 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2019-12-08 12:50 AM | Reply

This should be required reading for all Republicans.

OCU

#13 | Posted by OCUser at 2019-12-08 12:51 AM | Reply

"I said, I'm telling you, you're not getting the billion dollars.' I said, You're not getting the billion. I'm going to be leaving here in,' I think it was about six hours. I looked at them and said: I'm leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you're not getting the money.' Well, son of a bitch. He got fired. And they put in place someone who was solid at the time." Q.P.Q.

#14 | Posted by Greatamerican at 2019-12-08 01:01 AM | Reply

"Q.P.Q."

So now you're saying a QPQ is a BAD thing? Or are you just exhibiting your hypocrisy?

#15 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-12-08 01:05 AM | Reply

#14 | Posted by Greatamerican

How ---- stupid do you have to be to keep spouting this nonsense?

#16 | Posted by jpw at 2019-12-08 01:23 AM | Reply

#2 | Posted by Ray

Look at you turning into a good sycophantic cultist.

#17 | Posted by jpw at 2019-12-08 01:23 AM | Reply

#16 Blatant unveiled threat to withhold promised billion and demand made..what do you call this?

#18 | Posted by Greatamerican at 2019-12-08 01:31 AM | Reply

what do you call this?

#18 | Posted by Greatamerican

The point man of US policy and multiple international agencies enforcing agreed upon conditions for the acquisition of foreign aid by Ukraine.

It's another false equivalency, the only equivalencies the right has these days.

#19 | Posted by jpw at 2019-12-08 01:34 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"When a man unprincipled in private life[,] desperate in his fortune, bold in his temper . . . known to have scoffed in private at the principles of liberty " when such a man is seen to mount the hobby horse of popularity " to join in the cry of danger to liberty " to take every opportunity of embarrassing the General Government & bringing it under suspicion " to flatter and fall in with all the non sense [sic] of the zealots of the day " It may justly be suspected that his object is to throw things into confusion that he may ride the storm and direct the whirlwind."

Interesting observation.

#20 | Posted by et_al at 2019-12-08 02:09 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

One might have thought that even Ray-Ray would be bright enough to spot a con when he saw it... or at least patriotic enough not to want a Pres to continue in office when it has become obvious that he extorted an ally for personal gain.
Even some Republicans are no longer denying the facts.
#4 | POSTED BY CORKY

Ray is obsessed with hiding his ignorance, so he makes statements he thinks make him look smart, when in fact they simply reveal his utter cluelessness.
#11 | POSTED BY DANFORTH

The politicians that run and get elected to office are of the same breed as Trump. They are symptoms of a social cancer that wants to control what we say and do. It's called government. You two are not the cure; you are symptomatic of the disease.

#21 | Posted by Ray at 2019-12-08 08:37 AM | Reply

Look at you turning into a good sycophantic cultist.
#17 | POSTED BY JPW

#21 applies to you too.

#22 | Posted by Ray at 2019-12-08 08:41 AM | Reply

"Ray is obsessed with gold"
That's because Ray (by his own admission) doesn't know the first thing about investing, returns, diversification, or trends.
#11 | POSTED BY DANFORTH

I said I stay out of financial assets because I don't trust them. There is too much corruption and opacity for my comfort. There is too much disconnect between prices and real values. They reflect the greatest Ponzi scheme in the history of man. As long as the Fed can pump money into the system faster then the economy wants to collapse, you'll think you're an investment genius. The overriding trend is one of an economic system going broke. If saw it coming, we wouldn't be having these discussions.

#23 | Posted by Ray at 2019-12-08 09:01 AM | Reply

"Ray is obsessed with gold"

The DR Left is obsessed with Ray. He shows up occasionally and they turn into a howling mob.

#24 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-12-08 09:17 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

#22 yawn.

"They're all the same" is the cry of the weak and stupid.

#25 | Posted by jpw at 2019-12-08 10:36 AM | Reply

#24 if you weren't an idiot you'd understand the distaste for idiocy.

#26 | Posted by jpw at 2019-12-08 10:37 AM | Reply

"I said I stay out of financial assets because I don't trust them."

And you lose money while others double or triple theirs. Not something to be proud of, unless your goal is to subsist on cat food.

"They reflect the greatest Ponzi scheme in the history of man."

You've been predicting imminent collapse for over 15 years. But debt payments-to GDP-aren't at historic levels. Of course, you have no idea what that means, or why it's important. Nor do you care to educate yourself; doing so would have to deal with your terrible track record.

"you'll think you're an investment genius."

Only in comparison to a guy who could've done better by stuffing the cash in a mattress.

"The overriding trend is one of an economic system going broke."

Which you've said a thousand times, and been wrong a thousand times.

"If (you) saw it coming, we wouldn't be having these discussions."

Oh, it's coming. The trick is to ride the wave until it's time to get off. But as it stands, the index fund investor, whose seen a 190% gain to your overall loss, would have to lose 80% of their value to match your abysmal results.

But by all means, keep congratulating yourself on your unique brilliance.

#27 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-12-08 12:52 PM | Reply

Ray,

Broadly speaking, there's three types of investments:

There's "the market" which covers stocks, bonds, pork bellies, currencies, and your precious, precious metals.

There's arts and antiques.

And there's real estate.

What you're supposed to have is a finger in each pie, not both fists in some pre-med student who dances as "Platinum Silver."

You're welcome.

#28 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-12-08 01:01 PM | Reply

"The hardest thing to explain is the glaringly evident which everybody had decided not to see".
Ayn Rand.

Enough said. Good day.

#29 | Posted by Ray at 2019-12-08 01:06 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"I said, I'm telling you, you're not getting the billion dollars.' I said, You're not getting the billion. I'm going to be leaving here in,' I think it was about six hours. I looked at them and said: I'm leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you're not getting the money.' Well, son of a bitch. He got fired. And they put in place someone who was solid at the time." Q.P.Q.

#14 | POSTED BY GREATAMERICAN

Are you trying to say that Biden, like Trump, committed a crime? If so then let's prosecute both of them.

#30 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2019-12-08 02:12 PM | Reply

#14 | POSTED BY GREATAMERICAN

"The essence of impeachable bribery is a government official's exploitation of his or her public duties for personal gain. To the Framers, it was received wisdom that nothing can be "a greater Temptation to Officers [than] to abuse their Power by Bribery and Extortion."67 To guard against that risk, the Framers authorized the impeachment of a President who offers, solicits, or accepts something of personal value to influence his own official actions. By rendering such "Bribery" impeachable, the Framers sought to ensure that the Nation could expel a leader who would sell out the interests of "We the People" to achieve his own personal gain."

#31 | Posted by et_al at 2019-12-08 02:35 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"By rendering such "Bribery" impeachable, the Framers sought to ensure that the Nation could expel a leader who would sell out the interests of "We the People" to achieve his own personal gain."

Unless those in charge of expelling are willing to sell out the interests of "We the People" to achieve their own personal gain...like not being primaried.

I blame the Framers, for not anticipating Senators afraid of a tweet.

#32 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-12-08 02:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Trump should be impeached, and elements of the Russia report should be used to establish patterns of behavior which show motive in what he did in Ukraine, and afterwards; in particularly obstruction.

Its all relevant.

#33 | Posted by arthurmann at 2019-12-09 09:28 AM | Reply

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