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Thursday, December 12, 2019

President Donald Trump has signed off on a mini-trade deal with China, two people familiar with the negotiations said on Thursday, marking another trade victory he can tout as he faces impeachment led by House Democrats.

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I hope it's a good one. I hope it was worth all the hurt it caused. I heard it was not much more than what we had before all this started though, so we gain nothing.

#1 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-12-12 04:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

At this point, it is looking like the "phase-1" mini-deal that was talked about a month or so ago.

The big deal that's been promised is still a long ways away.


I'm hoping, at least, that intellectual property protections (and enforcement) are in this phase-1 deal.

#2 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-12-12 04:31 PM | Reply

"according to people briefed on the plans"

Isn't there anybody willing to be identified? Who the hell are "people"

#3 | Posted by Sniper at 2019-12-12 04:41 PM | Reply

@#3 ... Who the hell are "people" ...

Contacts that reporters have cultivated over the years, and who have provided good information in the past.

For example, sometimes "people" are Senators who are speaking to reporters off the record.

#4 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-12-12 06:28 PM | Reply

#4 | Posted by LampLighter

Hell or press secretaries telling reporters to use her as an unnamed source.

#5 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2019-12-13 09:39 AM | Reply

Watch:
We will soon go back to where we were regarding China trade circa January 2017, and Trump will declare it a "win."
Smh

#6 | Posted by e1g1 at 2019-12-13 10:49 AM | Reply

Isn't there anybody willing to be identified? Who the hell are "people"

#3 | POSTED BY SNIPER

Conservatives. Don't know that for sure, but it a good assumption considering this conservative administration has leaked like a seive from day one.

Also, since Trump is leading this, he and his subordinates would be able to control of who was put on it, it seems like a pretty good bet.

Unless the Chinese are leaking. Though, if that happened, you can rest assured that the "leak" is approved from the top. They don't leak willy nilly like conservatives do.

#7 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2019-12-13 11:51 AM | Reply

Watch:
We will soon go back to where we were regarding China trade circa January 2017, and Trump will declare it a "win."
Smh

#6 | POSTED BY E1G1 AT 2019-12-13 10:49 AM | FLAG:

You mean back to Obama trade policy's with China where we were getting our asses handed to us and where we would be if Hillary was in office?

#8 | Posted by fishpaw at 2019-12-13 12:03 PM | Reply

You mean back to Obama trade policy's with China where we were getting our asses handed to us and where we would be if Hillary was in office?

#8 | POSTED BY FISHPAW

Yes. We will have spent the past two years "trying" to fight China economically (give that man a participation trophy), and then conservatives will put their tail between their legs and go back to the policies that they said were so terrible. And call those policies a win.

And gullible schmucks like you will fall for it, cheerlead him and claim that he is making everything better, and then continue to vote for those who so easily manipulate your emotions.

#9 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2019-12-13 12:12 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I didn't know where it would all land but I knew we wouldn't keep this up.

We had to strike a deal where China would start importing ag commodities and we would cut tariffs.

It had to happen sooner or later. The farmers only have so much patience.

#10 | Posted by eberly at 2019-12-13 12:19 PM | Reply

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Trump's "trade policy" is to start a house on fire, then grab a hose and claim to be a hero for putting it out.

#11 | Posted by JOE at 2019-12-13 12:22 PM | Reply

I'll defer to the experts....at this point I don't know if we are going to end up stronger or not as a result of this trade war. Or what sectors (farms, manufacturing, tech, etc) fare better than others.

selfishly...I know which sector I'm rooting for.......

#12 | Posted by eberly at 2019-12-13 12:27 PM | Reply

then conservatives will put their tail between their legs and go back to the policies that they said were so terrible. And call those policies a win.
And gullible schmucks like you will fall for it, cheerlead him and claim that he is making everything better, and then continue to vote for those who so easily manipulate your emotions.

#9 | POSTED BY GTBRITISHSKULL AT 2019-12-13 12:12 PM

Is that what the MSMDNC told you to believe?

From the South China Morning Post:

Vice Commerce Minister Wang Shouwen announced on Friday that China and the US have made a breakthrough in trade negotiations, with a consensus agreement reached for a phase-one deal that will halt further tariff increases and lower some already in place.

Speaking in a late-night press conference in Beijing, Wang said the agreement covered a wide range of issues, including intellectual property protection, technology transfer, purchase of agricultural products and expanding trade.

The Office of the United States Trade Representative confirmed the agreement on Friday, saying in a statement: "The United States and China have reached an historic and enforceable agreement on a Phase One trade deal that requires structural reforms and other changes to China's economic and trade regime in the areas of intellectual property, technology transfer, agriculture, financial services, and currency and foreign exchange."

Wang said the nations have had in-depth discussions about intellectual property protection, including protecting IP in the pharmaceutical industry, and about cracking down on counterfeiting on e-commerce platforms and have agreed on an enforcement mechanism.

"These measures are in line with our reforms to strengthen IP protection, and this will also help China promote its economic development," Wang said.

The first phase also includes commitments from China to reform its intellectual property protection regime, further opening its services sector, and will take steps to mitigate charges of currency manipulation and tackle forced technology transfer from foreign companies, Wang said.

Better hurry up and get updates for your Talking Points.

Trade war breakthrough: US and China reach phase-one deal

#13 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-12-13 02:07 PM | Reply

TRUMP'S 'TARIFFS HAVE REALLY JUST HURT US,' CONSERVATIVE ECONOMIST TELLS FOX BUSINESS
www.newsweek.com

#14 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2019-12-13 02:55 PM | Reply

So is this different than the other half dozen or so times the US and China has supposedly reached an agreement with China over the past year and half.

#15 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2019-12-13 06:18 PM | Reply

#15

Yes, see the link in #13, where the Chinese have also announced that they have reached agreement...after all, reading is fundamental.

#16 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-12-13 10:11 PM | Reply

Dear Johnny Hotsauce #15:
OF COURSE this one (the fourth, fifth?) announcement is different.
It's the most recent!

#17 | Posted by e1g1 at 2019-12-13 11:11 PM | Reply

"Better hurry up and get updates for your Talking Points."

Who TF needs talking points? How does this deal compare with what we left on the table? You have no idea, and the article doesn't even address that central issue.

China is ecstatic; that's all we know. Well that, and you're linking to South China News as your source.

#18 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-12-13 11:27 PM | Reply

How many Chinese trademarks did Sweatshop Barbie get this time?

#19 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2019-12-14 08:32 AM | Reply

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