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Monday, December 16, 2019

Umair Haque: When I ask my European friends to describe us -- Americans, Brits, who I'll call Anglo-Americans in this essay -- they shake their heads gently. And over and over, three themes emerge. They say we're a little thoughtless. They say we're selfish and arrogant. And they say that we're cruel and brutal. I can't help but think there's more than a grain of truth. That they're being kind. Anglo-American society is now the world's preeminent example of willful self-destruction. It's jaw-dropping folly and stupidity is breathtaking to the rest of the world.

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And yet what's even weirder and more grotesque than that is that ... well ... nobody much seems to have noticed. There's a deafening silence from pundits and elites and columnists and politicians on the joint self-destruction of the Anglo-American world. Nobody seems to have noticed: the only two rich societies in the world with falling life expectancies, incomes, savings, happiness, trust -- every single social indicator you can imagine -- are America and Britain. It's not one of history's most improbable coincidences that America and Britain are collapsing in eerily similar ways, at precisely the same time. It's a relationship. What connects the dots?

Umair Haque is a London-based consultant and author.[1] He is also a contributor at the Harvard Business Review, where he focuses on capitalism and creating prosperity in the 21st century.

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Me? Oh okay I'll read it.

#1 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2019-12-16 10:07 AM | Reply

Not well written. The author makes no attempt to find any contributing factors outside those that fit his conclusions. I think the factoer that requires discussion is cultural homogeneity.

Wait. Stop. I don't mean race.

For the last 50 or so years, the American people have found themselves chopped into smaller and smaller divisions by the media, by politicians, by people with an agenda, and so forth. The result is that a great many don't see themselves as American. When asked, they identify as ethno-American, by politics, by sexual orientation, by religion, et al. We are no longer identifying as Americans. Our desire to be inclusive to a fault has wrecked us. We used to be a melting pot and now we're a cheese tray.

#2 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2019-12-16 11:01 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Our desire to be inclusive to a fault has wrecked us.

Both sides have reacted poorly to this but in different ways.

The left has reacted by placing themselves in ever smaller descriptor boxes to the point where it's amusing to watch them work through conundrums of deciding which group is the larger victim.

The right has reacted by digging in their heels and becoming spiteful even over small issues or concessions as well increasingly trying to define "American" in ever smaller boxes that, coincidentally I'm sure, exemplifies themselves.

#3 | Posted by jpw at 2019-12-16 12:12 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

As a student of history, the answer has always been known, but not enough people have the ability or the desire to seek it or do anything about it. Every empire has died of the same primary cause, economic inequality.

Eating and sleeping in comfort is a very personal act, and hard to correlate to the 'needs of the society'. This is the reason that socially-destructive ideas cannot be stopped. I am making a profit, so eff society, right?


#4 | Posted by kudzu at 2019-12-16 12:14 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

The left has reacted by placing themselves in ever smaller descriptor boxes to the point where it's amusing to watch them work through conundrums of deciding which group is the larger victim.

The "left" did nothing of the sort. These "descriptor boxes" you refer to were a response to being marginalized by society at large. Marginalized people built communities based on their shared values. These communities provided support, comfort and protection and allowed marginalized people to celebrate their differences. As the political and financial power of these marginalized communities grew, they demanded recognition and inclusion.

Now that marginalized people have some influence, the right wants them to just blend in; become Americans; not hyphenated Americans. That's not going to happen any time soon; nor should it. It is unreasonable to expect that these communities that have provided comfort and protection to so many are going to disband just because their detractors think that they are being un-American. Members of marginalized communities think that their detractors are being un-American by attempting to deny them their constitutional rights.

The "left" accepts people where ever they are as long as they were tolerant of others. The "left", believing in the constitution, believes that those differences don't disqualify people from enjoying the constitutional rights guaranteed to all citizens.

#5 | Posted by FedUpWithPols at 2019-12-16 02:53 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Posted by Nixon

Per that article snippet I agree with them.

We are thoughtless - Just look at the Global Warming/Climate Change debate.
Selfish and arrogant? Absolutely. American arrogance is legendary. Nationalism on the rise. And yes, we are a very entitled people.
Cruel and Brutal? Unfortunately I can't disagree. I'd say a solid third of this country fits that. The Trump base specifically.

There is more than a bit of it happening in Europe at this time as well though. The rise of the Nationalists. Nationalism leads to wars. Nationalism is thoughtless, selfish and arrogant.

#6 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2019-12-16 03:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Societies die when they go broke from out-of-control welfare and warfare spending. That's the direction this society is going.

#7 | Posted by Ray at 2019-12-16 04:16 PM | Reply

"rich, powerful, careless, selfish, and dumb" Gee, what a perfect description of our Orange Agent. What better proof of what this article says could you find?

#8 | Posted by SomebodyElse at 2019-12-16 07:06 PM | Reply

This is a society in which some people use deep fried chicken breasts for hamburger buns. In other words, it's already dead. Trump's election is the nail in its coffin. I'm praying for a resurrection, but things don't look promising.

#9 | Posted by anton at 2019-12-16 07:59 PM | Reply

>Umair Haque
>When I ask my European friends to describe us -- Americans, Brits
>describe us -- Americans, Brits
>us -- Americans, Brits
lol, k.

The UK, France, Germany, and Sweden are vying for pole position in a race to determine which becomes the first European caliphate, so I'll heed precisely zero advice on social and demographic issues from the same people who are committing willful cultural suicide en masse. Europe is about to take a gigantic collective poo on thousands of years of its own history just because someone more relatively melanin-enriched was sad about some words on twitter, or conquests which occurred hundreds of years ago. If Europeans can't shake themselves out of this hypnotic self-annihilating trance, then they deserve whatever they get.

#10 | Posted by berserkone at 2019-12-17 02:39 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Can't find the sauce right now but Mutti Merkel, when she's not convulsing, was recently rated as the worst Kanzler (Chancellor) ever in Germany. Relax, that doesn't count Reichskanzler. For as bad as Hitler supposedly was, at least Germany was still German after all was said and done. It's not clear that German Germany will survive Merkel and her acolytes, however.

#11 | Posted by berserkone at 2019-12-17 02:45 AM | Reply

Yt ppl.

#12 | Posted by fresno500 at 2019-12-17 03:05 AM | Reply

the only two rich societies in the world with falling life expectancies, incomes, savings, happiness, trust -- every single social indicator you can imagine -- are America and Britain.

How do you explain that?

#13 | Posted by bored at 2019-12-17 03:34 AM | Reply

(#13 We tolerate the mud races too much, is going to be his answer)

#14 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-12-17 04:25 AM | Reply

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USA and Britain are the only 2 experiencing this? I agree we are experiencing this but just us and Britain?

#15 | Posted by eberly at 2019-12-17 09:15 AM | Reply

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