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Tuesday, December 17, 2019

President Donald Trump, the first modern president to face impeachment during his first term in the White House, now leads his top Democratic rivals in his bid for a second, a new USA TODAY/Suffolk University Poll finds.

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If ever you needed proof that Americans are abysmally stupid morons...wait until November of next year.

#1 | Posted by jpw at 2019-12-17 11:45 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Outlier poll is outlier"
POSTED BY AVIGDORE AT 2019-12-16 12:39 PM

#2 | Posted by JOE at 2019-12-17 12:30 PM | Reply

Fake News!

#3 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2019-12-17 04:35 PM | Reply

If ever you needed proof that Americans are abysmally stupid morons...wait until November of next year.

Also, don't you just love it when Never Trumpers say that they would consider voting for the "right democrat"; "a democrat that isn't to far to the left". The reporter should ask those people: which is more important to you: Living with policies that you don't like or losing our democracy?

These Never Trumpers have tolerated right wingers for decades because they wanted their votes. Now that the right wingers are in the ascendancy and have found their champion in Trump, they want to get off the Trumplican train; but only if the dems nominate someone that will implement republican policies! To hell with them, if they can vote for a dem, stay the hell home and don't vote.

#4 | Posted by FedUpWithPols at 2019-12-17 06:17 PM | Reply

2016 SOUR GRAPES

2020 SOUR GRAPES

2024 SOUR GRAPES ...

#5 | Posted by Pegasus at 2019-12-17 10:19 PM | Reply

If ever you needed proof that Americans are abysmally stupid morons...wait until November of next year.

#1 | POSTED BY JPW

That's the type of conveyance that is a self-fulfilled prophecy.

I'm speaking in a general sense now - most people don't like condescension. When exposed to it they tend to move in the opposite direction.

#6 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-12-17 11:37 PM | Reply

Leading by 3 points in one outlier poll with a 3 point margin of error?

Call me when when he is leading in most polls by more than the moe.

#7 | Posted by Corky at 2019-12-18 12:09 AM | Reply

#7 Agreed, Cork.

Individual polls can be very misleading.

I prefer the aggregate polling that RCP puts together.

#8 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-12-18 12:16 AM | Reply

I prefer the aggregate polling that RCP puts together.

#8 | Posted by JeffJ

The aggregate RCP polling is unfortunately skewed by Rasmussen's daily outlier, which is always several points higher than anyone else's Trump approval polls.

#9 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-12-18 01:16 AM | Reply

Nationwide polls are pointless since we don't have a nationwide popular vote. Is there a site that uses state-by-state aggregate polling and tallies up our malapportioned electoral votes?

#10 | Posted by JOE at 2019-12-18 10:49 AM | Reply

I'm speaking in a general sense now - most people don't like condescension. When exposed to it they tend to move in the opposite direction.

#6 | Posted by JeffJ

I'm well aware of how people behave.

The sort of person who would be on the receiving end of that sort of comment are a lost cause anyway.

#11 | Posted by jpw at 2019-12-18 10:56 AM | Reply

I'm looking at 270towin.com and i'm really not seeing how Trump wins in 2020.

I see the Dems taking MI, FL and AZ. I think anti-Trump sentiment in these states is too high for Trump to overcome.

So even conceding that Trump wins WI, OH, and PA, this leaves Dems with 288 electoral votes and Trump with 249.

#12 | Posted by JOE at 2019-12-18 11:09 AM | Reply

Something I just heard on the radio that made me laugh but I have zero knowledge if this is true or not, but it is a funny thing to think about (and a little morbid)...

If Trump gets removed from office over impeachment, his POTUS term is considered invalid. So Pence becomes POTUS. But since Trump's term is invalid, his clock begins again. Pence could step aside in the elections, Trump could get re-elected, and because his first term doesn't count he could then legally run for POTUS again in 2024. This would give him 2 terms and 3 years in office.

Again, I have no idea if this is true, but if it is I think our country would be doomed from the amount of Liberal heads that explode. Just the dust would bury this country. But man it would be hilarious to see their faces just before the explosion.

#13 | Posted by humtake at 2019-12-19 01:04 PM | Reply

#13 that was making the rounds on Facebook last night. That even if he hasnt been removed the impeachment invalidated his first term and therefore he could run 2 more times. It is false but that doesnt stop the idiots from re-posting it over and over across social media. This is how fake news works. This is why people actually believe, and will argue until blue in the face, that Trump has not been impeached. They dont understand (or care to) that it is basically "impeached" = "charged" and yes he has been impeached. Conviction or acquittal is in the Senate.

#14 | Posted by justagirl_idaho at 2019-12-19 02:01 PM | Reply

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