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Georgia purged 309,000 voters from its rolls. It's the second state to make cuts in less than a week.

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Yeah, Republicans would never cheat in elections. Impeach every Republican in the country for corrupt political practices. Now, I want to read the defense for all of these purges.

#1 | Posted by danni at 2019-12-18 03:02 PM | Reply

This would be a great place for Bloomberg to use his billions. Kentucky, too.

#2 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-12-18 03:07 PM | Reply

Some I'm guessing people like Danni are saying everyone one of those cut were Democrats. Couldn't have been because they moved or were dead(who for some reason always vote Democrat)

#3 | Posted by fishpaw at 2019-12-18 03:09 PM | Reply

"dead(who for some reason always vote Democrat)"

Three things about that:
1) Most of the vote fraud in those situations is absentee ballot.
2) Because most absentee ballots break Republican, Rs aren't interested in addressing that issue.
3) If this is as common as you're claiming, where's the proof? Where are the charged crimes?

Remember: Kris Kansas Kobach claimed to have "a hundred" cases ready to file. Four years later, he'd filed NINE: eight addled old folks who had moved, and one---ONE---illegal voter.
www.propublica.org
www.kansascity.com

#4 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-12-18 03:17 PM | Reply

"Palast, whose investigative journalism dovetails with his voting rights advocacy under the banner of the Palast Investigative Fund, noted that he had been hunting down information on Kemp's activities as secretary of state for six years.

"In the course of those investigations, I sued Kemp in federal court for the names of the voters who were removed from the rolls," Palast said. "Turns out they were removed because they supposedly moved. But we found out that 340,134 " at least " had never, ever moved from their registration address, yet they lost their vote."

Palast said he "hired the top specialist in what's called Address List Hygiene,' the fancy term for people who track where every American lives," in order to shore up his investigation into Georgia's voter purge. And the results were something not entirely unlike shocking:

We looked at people who paid property taxes in Atlanta, paid income taxes in Georgia, people who were getting pizza deliveries on the morning of the election"in Georgia. My experts determined there were 340,134 Georgians that Brian Kemp removed from the rolls who never ever moved. He removed a third of a million voters illegally.

"We have their names and addresses. This is not a statistical sample. We can tell you exactly who each of the voters were [in Georgia]," Palast continued. "Martin Luther Kings 92-year-old cousin is on that list. I was there when she was thrown out of the polls."

www.gregpalast.com

Pallast has thus proven that Kemp won by purging legitimate voters. He is now taking the same to other state where he will be able to prove that these voter purges and just voter suppression. Because of voter suppressiong Kemp is now Governor of Georgia and Donald Trump is President of the United States.

#5 | Posted by danni at 2019-12-18 03:27 PM | Reply

3) If this is as common as you're claiming, where's the proof? Where are the charged crimes?

many of the dead are also lawyers... state da's charge corpus delicti and the attornys respond with corpus rottelie...

actually the states are doing it right. drop the suspicious ones... if you you can't produce a picture id or utility bills or property tax receipts or even apartment rental agreements...

then who the hell ARE you?

#6 | Posted by Pegasus at 2019-12-18 03:30 PM | Reply

then who the hell ARE you?
#6 | POSTED BY PEGASUS

Homeless?

#7 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2019-12-18 03:31 PM | Reply

"actually the states are doing it right. drop the suspicious ones... "

Any guesses as to who Republicans deem "suspicious"?

#8 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-12-18 03:32 PM | Reply

The "inactive" voters were marked for removal after failing to respond to a pre-addressed, postage paid confirmation card within 30 days; the card asked voters to confirm or update their information.

Hmmmm, sounds very suspicious. After reading posts like Danni's and Danforth I always have to ask the question and can never get an answer. Why have we never heard or you can't produce 1 name of one person who was not allowed or was unable to actually vote. You know why no one comes forward? I'll give you a hint, it's because they know they will look like a moron because voting is one of the easiest things to do anywhere in this country.

#9 | Posted by fishpaw at 2019-12-18 03:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Palast has the proof for Georgia, a name by name investigation. They are going to do other states. Defend these crooks all you want but then you will be as bad as they are. Perversion of democracy is a terrible thing yet you seem to think it's ok. You'e scum.

"actually the states are doing it right. drop the suspicious ones..."

The one's who live in black neighborhoods, they young, the old. Pallast did kill Interstate Crosscheck nationwide, ------- Kris Kobach found only a very few cases of voter fraud and most weren't Democrats.

#10 | Posted by danni at 2019-12-18 04:14 PM | Reply

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The "inactive" voters were marked for removal after failing to respond to a pre-addressed, postage paid confirmation card within 30 days; the card asked voters to confirm or update their information.

#9 | Posted by fishpaw at 2019-12

330,000 failed to respond?

I call bu-- sh--.

#11 | Posted by Zed at 2019-12-18 04:41 PM | Reply

#11,

Why? It's very possible. It's very easy to vote, to register to vote.

I'm sorry, someone who cant prove they are Americans do not need to be voting in our national elections. I dont think they should be voting in State elections either, but if a state wants to be stupid like California, let them. But dont try to do California's crazy nationwide.

#12 | Posted by boaz at 2019-12-18 05:47 PM | Reply

"Why? It's very possible. It's very easy to vote, to register to vote."

It's also very easy to purge the voter rolls of people you don't want voting.

Just send them a postcard, and if they don't send it back, purge them.

Best to do it right before elections, since you typically have to be registered to vote well before election day.

#13 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-12-18 05:58 PM | Reply

"I'm sorry, someone who cant prove they are Americans do not need to be voting in our national elections. "

Don't be an idiot.

First, in-person voter fraud is virtually non-existent. Aside from the logistics (having to go to multiple precincts in the same day, having to wait in line again and again, having to know a name and address of an eligible voter, having to assume no one there knows that person AND the person hasn't/won't vote), think about the swing states...what are there, six? Ten, maybe? If makes no sense in Wyoming or California, or anywhere else where the EC decision is a foregone conclusion, especially when you consider the penalty, which for an illegal is MUCH worse, since it would include deportation.

Next, voter suppression tactics specifically target certain subsets of people the suppressionists KNOW vote for their presumed opponent. They also know requirement X will suppress XX thousand votes, and requirement Y will suppress XXX thousand votes, etc.

Finally, the suppressionists repeat two central lies: 1) An additional barrier to voting won't be an additional barrier to voting; and 2) If there's a larger turnout, they haven't suppressed any voters. Don't forget: these folks would keep YOU from voting if they could.

#14 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-12-18 06:08 PM | Reply

Why? It's very possible. It's very easy to vote, to register to vote.

Another Repubican lie. Repubicans don't like it when voter turnout is high, because they lose elections when voter turnout is high. That's why they make it as hard as possible to register wherever possible.

VoterID laws, for instance - plenty of people can't get to a Motor Vehicles Department easily, or sift through the litany of documents needed to obtain an ID - if you live out in the sticks and you're old, without a car or physically disabled, getting purged from a voter roll is a huge deal.

You may as well make it a requirement that everyone has a valid land line telephone, for instance. That would take care of the youth vote straight away.

Just because YOU think it's easy to vote, to register to vote doesn't make it true. I know that concept is difficult for not-liberals to understand, since you all seem to live in your own little world where nobody else exists.

#15 | Posted by chuffy at 2019-12-18 07:02 PM | Reply

"Why have we never heard or you can't produce 1 name of one person who was not allowed or was unable to actually vote. "

Get your head out of your ass. This information is easily available:
www.washingtonpost.com
www.apmreports.org
thinkprogress.org

#16 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-12-18 09:58 PM | Reply

The "inactive" voters were marked for removal after failing to respond to a pre-addressed, postage paid confirmation card within 30 days; the card asked voters to confirm or update their information.

Many of them probably thought it was junkmail or a scam and threw it away. No reason to create an additional barrier to their exercise of a Constitutional right, without notice that this was what would happen to them.

#17 | Posted by JOE at 2019-12-18 11:55 PM | Reply

It's pretty obvious their goal is to keep black people from voting.

#18 | Posted by Tor at 2019-12-19 12:00 AM | Reply

"Many of them probably thought it was junkmail or a scam and threw it away."

Exactly.

And the creators know a certain percentage will get disenfranchised. That's not a bug, that's the whole point. Send out enough, and even a tiny percentage will achieve your goal.

It's the same concept as every other spam & scam.

#19 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-12-19 12:08 AM | Reply

If you're too stupid to know the difference between junk mail or something from your county clerks office, you don't deserve to vote. You're too stupid.

#20 | Posted by homerj at 2019-12-19 03:28 AM | Reply

Send out enough, and even a tiny percentage will achieve your goal.

Yep. Wisconsin was won by 22,748 votes, or 0.77%. A Republican judge just ordered them to kick 234,039 voters off the rolls for not responding to mailers that said nothing about losing your voter registration. That is 7% of the state's total registered voters.

#21 | Posted by JOE at 2019-12-19 04:50 AM | Reply

#20 Is there a stupidity handicap on the right to vote somewhere in the Constitution (you know, the document rightwingers claim to worship until it inconveniences their cruelty)? If so, how hasn't it stopped you yet?

#22 | Posted by JOE at 2019-12-19 04:51 AM | Reply

"A Republican judge just ordered them to kick 234,039 voters off the rolls for not responding to mailers that said nothing about losing your voter registration. That is 7% of the state's total registered voters.

That's pure Jim Crow. In other eras it was knows as "caging."

#23 | Posted by danni at 2019-12-19 08:21 AM | Reply

Why not have automatic registration for anyone over 18... like the Oregon already does...it guarantees participation abilty.

Party affiliation is a separate registration but everyone can vote in the general election.

#24 | Posted by 503jc69 at 2019-12-19 08:25 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Why not have automatic registration for anyone over 18... like the Oregon already does...it guarantees participation abilty.

#24 | POSTED BY 503JC69

They actually already do...

www.ajc.com

There are still other problems with voter suppression, but automatic registration is a bright spot for Georgia.

#25 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2019-12-19 08:53 AM | Reply

Repubicans don't like it when voter turnout is high, because they lose elections when voter turnout is high. That's why they make it as hard as possible to register wherever possible. - #15 | Posted by chuffy at 2019-12-18 07:02 PM

Another chuffy lie.
Year/voter turnout %/election winner
2016 / 59.30% / R
2012 / 58.00% / D
2008 / 61.60% / D
2004 / 60.70% / R
ballotpedia.org
The data for this century does not agree with your anti-republican view. Highest and lowest Dem won. Middle were both Republican.

#26 | Posted by Avigdore at 2019-12-19 11:04 AM | Reply

26

I'm going to agree with Chuffy.....republicans don't like high turnouts...it doesn't mean they always lose low turnout but in general, the GOP knows high turnout usually favors the democrats.

#27 | Posted by eberly at 2019-12-19 11:10 AM | Reply

Astoundingly blatant voter suppression - who else profits from this "mailer" tactic? Another "data management" firm paid with taxpayer funds. Why don't they just use the taxpayer database to validate citizenry? Political scum and their corporate facilitators.

#28 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2019-12-19 11:13 AM | Reply

Hmmmm, sounds very suspicious. After reading posts like Danni's and Danforth I always have to ask the question and can never get an answer. Why have we never heard or you can't produce 1 name of one person who was not allowed or was unable to actually vote. You know why no one comes forward? I'll give you a hint, it's because they know they will look like a moron because voting is one of the easiest things to do anywhere in this country.

#9 | POSTED BY FISHPAW

Here are tens of thousands who were cut and had to either re-register or couldn't vote because of registration deadlines:
www.apmreports.org

If you don't know you are cut until too late, there isn't much you can do.

10 seconds on Google too hard for you or do you just prefer lying?

#29 | Posted by Sycophant at 2019-12-19 12:12 PM | Reply

If you're too stupid to know the difference between junk mail or something from your county clerks office, you don't deserve to vote. You're too stupid.
#20 | POSTED BY HOMERJ

^
Comments like this show how Deplorables think America is better when we first-class citizens and second-class citizens.
#MAGA

#30 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-12-19 03:27 PM | Reply

"If you're too stupid to know the difference between junk mail or something from your county clerks office, you don't deserve to vote."

Do you still deserved to be taxed? Or are you down with that whole "taxation without representation" thang?

#31 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-12-19 03:30 PM | Reply

Every state should search their voter rolls yearly and purge the names of those who are not longer there: Some people relocate to other states and others die.

#32 | Posted by MSgt at 2019-12-19 05:32 PM | Reply

Along with the illegal voter fraud, the bigger fraud that the Dems play is trying to rig the census. Do a count of actual citizens and decrease the EC count for CA, NY, and Illinois.

#33 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-12-19 09:13 PM | Reply

"Every state should search their voter rolls yearly and purge the names of those who are not longer there: Some people relocate to other states and others die.
#32 | POSTED BY MSGT"

They should simply double check vs. state income filings. If you did not file a tax return and list that state as your primary residence, then no vote for you. If we did that, we could cull the rolls of millions of deadbeat, lying Dems.

#34 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-12-19 09:15 PM | Reply

"...the bigger fraud that the Dems play is trying to rig the census." - #33 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-12-19 09:13 PM

"It is why the Democrats don't want the census to count the illegals." - #9 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-12-19 06:59 PM
When all else fails, contridict yourself.

#35 | Posted by Hans at 2019-12-19 09:23 PM | Reply

"When all else fails, contridict yourself.
#35 | POSTED BY HANS "

You either have a reading comprehension problem or a logical comprehension problem. Sorry, I cannot help you fix that.

#36 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-12-19 09:31 PM | Reply

"You either have a reading comprehension problem or a logical comprehension problem." - #36 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-12-19 09:31 PM

"It is why the Democrats don't want the census to count the illegals." - #9 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-12-19 06:59 PM
You own your own words.

#37 | Posted by Hans at 2019-12-19 09:35 PM | Reply

""It is why the Democrats don't want the census to count the illegals." - #9 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-12-19 06:59 PM
You own your own words.
#37 | POSTED BY HANS"

Yes, and my statement is 100% factual. The Democrats do not want a count of the illegals - that is why they fought the citizenship question. So, seems we are in agreement that the Dems want to have the number of illegals in the country to remain a secret. Why you think that is a good thing is the mystery more so than even the cause of your inability to process written language.

#38 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-12-19 09:42 PM | Reply

"Yes, and my statement is 100% factual. The Democrats do not want a count of the illegals..." - #38 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-12-19 09:42 PM

You've already said that:

"It is why the Democrats don't want the census to count the illegals." - #9 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-12-19 06:59 PM
So much for "...the Dems play is trying to rig the census."

You just can't take "yes" for an answer.

#39 | Posted by Hans at 2019-12-19 09:46 PM | Reply

"The Democrats do not want a count of the illegals - that is why they fought the citizenship question."

Tthe Census doesn't want a count of illegals, since the Constitution clearly says

"shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons."

Do they not teach these things in Moscow or what?
???

#40 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-12-19 09:47 PM | Reply

"You just can't take "yes" for an answer.
#39 | POSTED BY HANS"

Do they still sell 'hooked on phonics'? If they do, we should crowd fund a set for you.

#41 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-12-19 10:02 PM | Reply

I will make a suggestion, make voters registration include social security numbers. That would make it much easier to remove the dead from rolls and verify residence. A little fact for y'all, the average individual moves about every five years, at least from one district to another. About 2% of the population die every year. The rolls need to cleaned up, inactive voters who have not voted in two general elections should be dropped. That is easily remedied by reregistering.

#42 | Posted by docnjo at 2019-12-19 11:24 PM | Reply

#42 the GOP intent is not to have accurate voter rolls.
The GOP intent is to remove as accurately as possible likely Democrat voters from the voter rolls.

#43 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-12-19 11:26 PM | Reply

"The rolls need to cleaned up, inactive voters who have not voted in two general elections should be dropped."

Will they be dropped from the tax rolls as well?

#44 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-12-20 12:02 AM | Reply

"If you're too stupid to know the difference between junk mail or something from your county clerks office, you don't deserve to vote. You're too stupid."

An idea straight out of the old Jim Crow South. Hey, let's bring back literacy tests and poll taxes.

#45 | Posted by danni at 2019-12-20 05:40 AM | Reply

"The rolls need to cleaned up, inactive voters who have not voted in two general elections should be dropped. That is easily remedied by reregistering."

But, but, but y'all told us that requiring a photo id would fix voter fraud (which virtually does not exist) so what's the rush to "clean up" the rolls? What you are saying is that a legitimate voter with a photo id shows up at the polls he/she should not be allowed to vote because without any evidence your appointees decided he/she was dead because they didn't return a post card withing 30 days? What if they were traveling, what if they were in the hospital, what if they are working three jobs just to survive? No, it's called "caging" and was illegal under the Voting Rights Act, as it still should be. Funny how the states for which the Voting Rights Act was enacted are the first to revert to "caging" because they know it will disenfranchise people they don't want to vote.
Republicans are trying to bring back Jim Crow, but Jim is dead, I know cuz I sent him a post card and he didn't return it within 30 days.

#46 | Posted by danni at 2019-12-20 05:48 AM | Reply

"Yeah, Republicans would never cheat in elections. Impeach every Republican in the country for corrupt political practices. Now, I want to read the defense for all of these purges."

You are in for a VEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERY long list of things to read. I mean, that is if you care about facts and as of yesterday, we already have evidence you don't know what a fact is. But I digress, the link below shows what a purge is for, why it has to be done, and how many have been done. So you want a reason for every purge? Also, note how Cali and other states who have been accused of having dead voters, illegal immigrant voting, etc. show very few purges? One could EASILY look at the migration numbers for Liberal states to realize that purges not happening after voters have moved to different states is highly suspicious. Just as suspicious as many of the counties being GOP heavy and having a high rate of purges. But I'm sure you will only care about the GOP suspicions because that fits your narrative, and Dems just can't every do anything wrong.

www.brennancenter.org

It's a shame that people who would otherwise be seen as intelligent quickly devolve to ignorance strictly because of partisan hate.

#47 | Posted by humtake at 2019-12-20 12:31 PM | Reply

I find the hand wringing to be hyperbolic.

How do people drive automobiles on the street legally without renewing their registration on a yearly basis, and in some states go get a safety inspection.

How do people get new licenses when they move?

How about a new phone? Pay home owners insurance? Taxes?

Every election you should have to register for that election. Or just go right up to the polling booth the day of.

There is no reason for the state to keep people perpetually on voter rolls. They should be cleaned out after every election.

We keep the rolls, so the parties can send you election crap, that is what this is really about.

#48 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-12-20 12:42 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Will they be dropped from the tax rolls as well?

one can only hope.

#49 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-12-20 12:45 PM | Reply

From Humtake's link:
Problems arise when states remove voters who are still eligible to vote. States rely on faulty data that purport to show that a voter has moved to another state. Oftentimes, these data get people mixed up. In big states like California and Texas, multiple individuals can have the same name and date of birth, making it hard to be sure that the right voter is being purged when perfect data are unavailable. Troublingly, minority voters are more likely to share names than white voters, potentially exposing them to a greater risk of being purged. Voters often do not realize they have been purged until they try to cast a ballot on Election Day " after it's already too late. If those voters live in a state without election day registration, they are often prevented from participating in that election.

Regarding the bolded section: the suppressionists are well aware of this fact.

The guys on Stuff You Should Know did a piece on this, where they cited pair of statisticians who wanted to get to the bottom of the "3 million" fraudulent vote claim. Most were about folks who moved, or passed, or had the same birthday but a different-yet-similar name, like Steven A. Jones and Steven J. Jones. But once all those numbers were eliminated, they still had 20,000 cases of voters with the exact same name and the exact same birthdate. Fraudulent voters, right?

Wrong.

When they delved into it, they found some interesting things: the most common match was Hispanic women born on March 19th...all with the first name Josefina, since the feast of St. Joseph is March 19th, and celebrated within the Hispanic community. The second-most common match were Irish guys with the last name of Kelly, born on March 17th. Any guesses what the first name was? Patrick, of course.

Finally, they noticed matches of seasonal names, like April, June, Autumn, Holly, and Noel. The totals added up to the missing 20,000.

#50 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-12-20 12:47 PM | Reply

How about we expand the Voter's Rights Bill to a single standard of registration and purging the rolls. Rolls should be purged every four years in the year before the general election.Those that have not voted in the previous two should be purged,(that is a 7 year period minimum)and a notice of the need to re register sent out. Voters do not mind the ID requirement. Every black or brown person I ask thinks it is insulting that some believe that they as a group are so helpless that they can not maintain a state issued photo ID. We have voter ID. Considering our history when the Democratic Party ran the state, we have good reason.

#51 | Posted by docnjo at 2019-12-20 01:15 PM | Reply

"I find the hand wringing to be hyperbolic."

I find you unaware of situations which don't match yours. You would've purged my late MIL from the rolls.

"How do people drive automobiles on the street legally without renewing their registration on a yearly basis, and in some states go get a safety inspection."

My late MIL hadn't driven for a decade when I met her.

"How do people get new licenses when they move?"

She never used one again. Her state license had long expired.

"How about a new phone?"

No one asked for her ID when we bought her a phone.

"Pay home owners insurance?"

After my FIL died, she moved in with us, and never paid homeowner's insurance. And I've NEVER had to show an ID to pay homeowner's insurance. Have you?

"Taxes?"

I prepped her taxes every year, and she signed them. Again, no ID required. Do YOU have to show your ID to file a tax return?

"Every election you should have to register for that election."

You're clearly an adherent to the suppressionists central lie: An additional barrier to voting won't be an additional barrier to voting. Regarding my MIL, I handled all her paperwork, and never saw a birth certificate. She was born in a rural hospital in the 20s, and you'd purge her for that. Of course, you're aiming for black folks, who'd have a larger percentage of missing paperwork than your average Trust Fund Baby.

"We keep the rolls, so the parties can send you election crap, that is what this is really about."

So in summation, you're barfing up situations where an ID isn't needed, and pretending that's somehow relevant. And nobody believes you care if political parties send out too many flyers. In reality, you want to purge the rolls of people who you believe will vote against you wanting more tax cuts...THAT's what this is all about.

#52 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-12-20 01:47 PM | Reply

And here's Anecdotal Dan blubbering once again about his mother-in-law, as if we can make perfect public policy that can cover every single outlier.

#53 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-12-20 01:51 PM | Reply

And here's Nulli. Not adding anything to the conversation, per usual.

#54 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-12-20 01:55 PM | Reply

"once again about his mother-in-law"

Who is the prime example of folks Suppressionists like you don't want voting.

"every single outlier."

You're a blithering idiot; She was a typical elderly woman. You're just embarrassed by the truth, and your obvious callous behavior being exposed. My MIL was lucky she had folks around her to take good care of her; not all elderly do.

"as if we can make perfect public policy'

You're not TRYING to make perfect public policy. You're trying to lie your way to purging folks who usually vote against you.

#55 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-12-20 01:57 PM | Reply

"Anecdotal"

Nulli is either too stupid or too dishonest to admit the Suppressionists KNOW it's not "anecdotal": it's part of their target.

#56 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-12-20 01:59 PM | Reply

"One could EASILY look at the migration numbers for Liberal states to realize that purges not happening after voters have moved to different states is highly suspicious. Just as suspicious as many of the counties being GOP heavy and having a high rate of purges."

You're saying no purges is just as suspicious as lots of purges.

You're wrong about that.

For the same reason no dead bodies is not as suspicious as a pile of dead bodies.

Thanks for reading and understanding.

#57 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-12-20 04:49 PM | Reply

"And here's Anecdotal Dan blubbering once again about his mother-in-law, as if we can make perfect public policy that can cover every single outlier."

What Nullifidian is saying is a certain amount of disenfranchisement is okay... especially on the fringes of society.

If you believe that, then you don't believe in democracy.

#58 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-12-20 04:52 PM | Reply

Here are a few items that are accepted as proof of identification here in Texas. Arrest records, school transcripts, hospital birth records, social security accounts, pay stubs, military records-a DD214 of any type, in fact any government record of an individual is used to issue a Texas ID card or driver's license. If the individual can't afford an id card, it can be issued free. It is actually illegal not to possess any ID at all. You can be arrested for not holding one in this state. If an individual can live in this country for a lifetime with no contact at all with any level of government, they are an extreme example.

#59 | Posted by docnjo at 2019-12-21 02:18 PM | Reply

#59 | POSTED BY DOCNJO

Snoofy would have us believe people are too stupid to registrar to vote ...

Lines at D.M.V. offices in New York City snaked around buildings when undocumented immigrants allowed to get licenses.
www.nytimes.com

#60 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-12-21 02:23 PM | Reply

--Snoofy would have us believe people are too stupid to registrar to vote ...

Snoofy is as dumb as Dan "What about my mother in law" Forth.

#61 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-12-21 02:29 PM | Reply

Snoofy would have us believe people are too stupid to registrar to vote ...

It doesn't require stupidity for this to be an impediment. If you aren't aware you've been purged and show up to vote on election day, it will either be too late to register, or if your jurisdiction allows same-day registration you probably won't have the documents you need to do that. That means another trip home and another wait through line. For someone who is disabled or busy, that is a substantial burden on their Constitutional rights, the imposition for which they did not receive due process.

I don't expect you to acknowledge this or care in any way; the comment is directed at anyone else who might be reading that has more than one brain cell.

#62 | Posted by JOE at 2019-12-21 02:37 PM | Reply

Angry Joe the Blogger also has a mother-in-law.

#63 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-12-21 02:43 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

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