Drudge Retort: The Other Side of the News
Thursday, December 19, 2019

It was a remarkable side-by-side illustration of a political split in the United States so wide and deep that it appears many Americans embrace not merely two competing views of a controversial president, but two alternate realities. On Wednesday, they played out in real time on television and social media. In one, Trump's conduct toward Ukraine was an abuse of his office so grave he should be expelled from the White House. In the other, he was himself the innocent victim of political abuse.

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We are already in a soft civil war, and the Left is winning. They have seized control of the means of cultural production and communication--academia, public schools, the arts and entertainment, and the news media. Add demographic replacement via immigration policies, and the federal government will be like California's in ten years or less--a one-party state.

#1 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-12-19 09:08 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

In one, Trump's conduct toward Ukraine was an abuse of his office so grave he should be expelled from the White House. In the other, he was himself the innocent victim of political abuse.

It isn't that we're divided, it's that one party has pandered to the intellectual dregs of our society for so long they can't run back. Only an idiot would think Trump is a victim of anything.

Oh, and you're still a sick schit with this civil war garbage.

#2 | Posted by jpw at 2019-12-19 09:52 AM | Reply

#1 of course nulli is a scared, pathetic old boomer.

#3 | Posted by jpw at 2019-12-19 09:53 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Black-Face, Redneck, toe sucker lusts to kill libruls.

News at 11.

#4 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour at 2019-12-19 10:40 AM | Reply

The old 'violence' trope....again

#5 | Posted by fresno500 at 2019-12-19 11:26 AM | Reply

Thank you Rush Limbaugh, Infowars, Breitfart and Foxs News.

#6 | Posted by Nixon at 2019-12-19 02:06 PM | Reply

.....And the confederacy would lose AGAIN!
Why do you hate American so much Comrade Boazo?

#7 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2019-12-19 02:27 PM | Reply

So when the deplorables start this war, what exactly will be their aim? The last Civil War had solid geographical boundaries as it's goal.
What exactly will be your end game Boaz? Simply kill all the Liberals?

#8 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2019-12-19 03:32 PM | Reply

As a sidebar, I was surprised to learn recently that a few of the states that tried to succeed did so without the consent of their citizens. In some Southern states the referendum to succeed failed, but the Governors chose to proceed anyway. Some things never change, Conservatives still hate democracy.

#9 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2019-12-19 03:35 PM | Reply

Also, I can't wait to laugh at the first loser who dies for Donald Trump.

#10 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2019-12-19 03:36 PM | Reply

"What exactly will be your end game Boaz? Simply kill all the Liberals?"

The sad irony is Boaz will get fragged by the end of day two, since he looks like the enemy.

#11 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-12-19 03:36 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

A Civil War would be very difficult for both sides considering our various regions have people of all different beliefs, religions, etc. It isn't like 1863 when the South was run as an oligarchy where the rich plantation owners pretty much made all the decisions and then used militias to force the poorer people to do as they were told or face violent consequences. I honestly don't think we will ever have a Civil War but that there wil be renegade terrorist groups who will kill those they hate in bigger numbers than today but they don't constitute a war but, instead, just terorism.

#12 | Posted by danni at 2019-12-19 03:40 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

-- What exactly will be your end game Boaz? Simply kill all the Liberals?

Spare us the histrionics. The likely path is a growing separation between the blue bubbleheads and normals, possibly leading to secession movements. If there's violence, it will be the result of blue bubbleheads trying to impose their policies on states that choose to govern themselves rather than cede their 10th amendment rights and sovereignty to DC.

#13 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-12-19 03:52 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#13 | Posted by nullifidian

What ------- planet do you live on?

#14 | Posted by moder8 at 2019-12-19 03:55 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"If there's violence, it will be the result of blue bubbleheads trying to impose their policies on states that choose to govern themselves rather than cede their 10th amendment rights and sovereignty to DC."

Do you really think blue states will grouse if say, Alabama and Mississippi want to live in even worse squalor?

#15 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-12-19 03:58 PM | Reply

the Left is winning. They have seized control of the means of cultural production and communication--academia, public schools, the arts and entertainment, and the news media.

All that and Republicans managed to nominate and elect an alt-right white supremacist sexual predator president who's stacking the judiciary with other dimwitted racists. If the Left controls any of what you mentioned, they're doing a piss-poor job of indoctrination.

#16 | Posted by JOE at 2019-12-19 04:05 PM | Reply

Danni is probably right. I can see Antifa carrying out attacks on conservatives. They wish to eliminate those who do not think like they do. The right will probably have retaliatory attacks as well. Sad world we live in.

#17 | Posted by byrdman at 2019-12-19 04:05 PM | Reply

#12 Well said, but don't forget to add in all the rightwingers who proudly proclaim that they will murder law enforcement if we ever enact sensible gun policy.

#18 | Posted by JOE at 2019-12-19 04:12 PM | Reply

"The right will probably have retaliatory attacks as well. Sad world we live in."

The number one threat from terrorists in the United States is right wing lunatics. I can't remember the last Antifa attack, can you name one?

#19 | Posted by danni at 2019-12-19 04:17 PM | Reply

We are already in a soft civil war

#1 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN AT 2019-12-19 09:08 AM | FLAG: | FUNNY: 1 | NEWSWORTHY 1

And Boaz wants to feed it Viagra.

#20 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2019-12-19 04:21 PM | Reply

--What ------- planet do you live on?

The People's Republic of California. It's a planet unto itself. It's so solidly blue the progressives send all their campaign cash out of state to further their drive to national domination.

#21 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-12-19 04:21 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

www.newsweek.com

Check that article out. Shows what Antifa has been up to.

#22 | Posted by byrdman at 2019-12-19 04:23 PM | Reply

we aren't going to have a civil war.

We're too lazy for one. we'd rather pretend we're having on on the internet.

#23 | Posted by eberly at 2019-12-19 04:28 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

the Left is winning. They have seized control of the means of cultural production and communication--academia, public schools, the arts and entertainment

So, much like the American civil war, the northern liberals are superior to the inbred southern conservatives.

Fact is, the United States of America can lose all the southern, Bible Belt, states and be better off for it.

#24 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-12-19 04:35 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

13 of the 15 most federally dependent states are red states, most of them deeply so. We can skip the war and let these --------- secede.

#25 | Posted by JOE at 2019-12-19 04:38 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

we aren't going to have a civil war.
We're too lazy for one.

Modern day civil wars are waged through burning Nike's and boycotting Chick-fil-A.

We need to get home by 6pm so we can watch our favorite shows and coddle ourselves.

we'd rather pretend we're having on on the internet.

Boaz has been pretending since 2012, when he first started screeching about wanting a civil war.

After seven years of praying for one, his only accomplishment has been to get fatter as he trolls news blogs.

#26 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-12-19 04:41 PM | Reply

--Fact is, the United States of America can lose all the southern, Bible Belt, states and be better off for it.

In that case, you should have no objection to all the red areas seceding.

upload.wikimedia.org

#27 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-12-19 04:42 PM | Reply

Anyone else think the rich states would win any civil war, just like last time?

#28 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-12-19 04:45 PM | Reply

"In that case, you should have no objection to all the red areas seceding."

2/3rds of the nation's GDP is generated in the blue areas. Don't let the door hit you.

#29 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-12-19 04:45 PM | Reply

We'll just have to kick their assz again.

#30 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2019-12-19 04:47 PM | Reply

--We'll just have to kick their assz again.

Why would you want to, if 2/3 of the gdp is generated in blue states? It would make more sense to welcome their secession so you can have your blue utopia without any dissent.

#31 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-12-19 05:00 PM | Reply

"Why would you want to, if 2/3 of the gdp is generated in blue states?"

Same reason we took the land from the Indians.
Their GDP is low because they have been mis-managing their resources for generations.

#32 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-12-19 05:06 PM | Reply

"It would make more sense to welcome their secession so you can have your blue utopia without any dissent."

And the red areas would do nothing but whine that they got the raw end of the deal, while their towns go bankrupt, their hospitals close, and their roads become pocked.

#33 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-12-19 05:07 PM | Reply

-- What exactly will be your end game Boaz? Simply kill all the Liberals?

Spare us the histrionics. The likely path is a growing separation between the blue bubbleheads and normals, possibly leading to secession movements. If there's violence, it will be the result of blue bubbleheads trying to impose their policies on states that choose to govern themselves rather than cede their 10th amendment rights and sovereignty to DC.

#13 | Posted by nullifidian

Wow you're such a pathetic -----.

This and the other day you were afraid Greta was going to put you against a wall and shoot you.

#34 | Posted by jpw at 2019-12-19 06:45 PM | Reply

"If there's violence, it will be the result of blue bubbleheads trying to impose their policies on states that choose to govern themselves rather than cede their 10th amendment rights and sovereignty to DC.
#13 | Posted by nullifidian"

Oh, I get it.

The samw thing that led to the first Great Rebellion aka Civil War.

I never realized Nullifidian is a Confederate.

But that explains just about everything.

#35 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-12-19 07:11 PM | Reply

"Chuck Todd Warns of Cold Civil War' "

I hate it when evil Chucky agrees with me. But in my own defense, I said "soft civil war" not "cold civil war."

#36 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-12-19 07:25 PM | Reply

" soft civil war"

AKA

a bunch of griping from old people who aint gonna do ----.

#37 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2019-12-19 07:30 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

--a bunch of griping from old people who aint gonna do ----.

Just what are you doing differently than myself, i.e., blogging and voting?

#38 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-12-19 07:56 PM | Reply

If America has a civil war its first Act will be to Nuke Russia.

#39 | Posted by Tor at 2019-12-19 08:15 PM | Reply

Just what are you doing differently than myself, i.e., blogging and voting?

#38 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN AT 2019-12-19 07:56 PM | REPLY |
not threatening people if things dont go my way.

are you boaz now?

#40 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2019-12-19 08:48 PM | Reply

--not threatening people if things dont go my way.

I'm not threatening anyone, dummy. Are you high?

#41 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-12-19 08:57 PM | Reply

I'm not threatening anyone, dummy. Are you high?

#41 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN AT 2019-12-19 08:57 PM | FLAG:

I don't know about you but I can post while high... No need to threaten anyone...

#42 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2019-12-19 08:59 PM | Reply

"We are already in a soft civil war, and the Left is winning.
#1 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN"

I don't agree - I would say that the Left WAS winning - now their progress has been blunted globally and the pendulum is swinging the other way. I would say that is the GOP had run a Bush-ish candidate in 2016 and won/lost, then the Left would have wiped out the opposition. But, if you analyze the areas that were formerly used to seize control as you correct outlined:

1.) academia - college is a broken value proposition like any other business ran by liberals. Before, you were forced to parrot whatever nonsense was taught as the degree was a tickets to the good life. Now, because core skills is secondary at best, it is a ticket to debt and a job at Starbucks.

2.) public schools - the masses have woken up and realized how broken the system is leading to the charter school push. Dems are in a bind - they know that people now see the public schools as broken but are beholden to the teachers unions. Their mistake was not strangling charter schools in their infant stage.

3.) the arts and entertainment - the NFL backlash and the Hollywood backlash show the weakening power of the left. Again, they were undone by technologies breaking their stranglehold on information - namely, the internet. They cannot curate how people consume media any longer.

4.) and the news media - again, in the past, this would have been a big blow but because of the internet and Trump calling out the media for their blatant lies, its power/influence is dying. In an age where people want facts, the Libs try to sell emotions. It is a losing strategy.

I would add to your list the 2 other means of control:

5.) Banking - the elites tried to snuff out Trump's economy and failed. They tried to push Obama's corruption and green technology - they failed. At the end of the day, financial power has shifted away from the US Fed and 2 big banks and the people in general benefit from that.

6.) The Courts - the Left's old fallback for idea they cannot get passed through elections. Again, Trump has permanently upturned the apple cart and not even the 9th circuit is being fixed.

I think this is why the Left is being so unreasonable and militant with Antifa. They expected a mass socialist uprising rather than a rejection of their ideas.

#43 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-12-19 09:01 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

- I never realized Nullifidian is a Confederate.

The funny white hood and the shiny brown boots pretty much give it away.

#44 | Posted by Corky at 2019-12-19 09:04 PM | Reply

These cons need to keep amping themselves up. They always go to violence as their fear and solution.

Lock them up.

#45 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-12-19 10:14 PM | Reply

#43 | POSTED BY IRAGOLDBERG AT 2019-12-19 09:01 PM | FLAG:

Did you have a point?

#46 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2019-12-19 10:52 PM | Reply

OK Nulli, in this "Soft" or "Easy Listening" Civil War or whatever you call it, what is the aim? When will it be over?

#47 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2019-12-20 05:27 AM | Reply

#46 | Posted by lfthndthrds

LOL!

Dude's a semi-literate, completely mis-educated crackpot.

He's got lots of "points".

#48 | Posted by Angrydad at 2019-12-20 06:59 AM | Reply

Half of these idiots of Benedict Donald's new confederacy (see his base) would accidentally off themselves while cleaning their gun. As seen here, most of them are not the brightest bulbs on the x-mas tree.

#49 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2019-12-20 08:20 AM | Reply

Why would you want to, if 2/3 of the gdp is generated in blue states? It would make more sense to welcome their secession so you can have your blue utopia without any dissent.

#31 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN

To stem the flow of illegal confederate migrants looking for a better life for them and their children.

#50 | Posted by jpw at 2019-12-20 09:14 AM | Reply

The likely path is a growing separation between the blue bubbleheads and normals

#13 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN

Yap.

The blue bubbleheads think that capitalism without rules is theft.

The normals know that capitalism is theft with rules.

We are not the same.

#51 | Posted by MrSilenceDogood at 2019-12-20 09:19 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Welcome back, Silence

#52 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2019-12-20 09:57 AM | Reply

"Banking - the elites tried to snuff out Trump's economy and failed. They tried to push Obama's corruption and green technology - they failed. At the end of the day, financial power has shifted away from the US Fed and 2 big banks and the people in general benefit from that."

Learned nothing from the burst of the housing bubble in 2007, banks going under and needing to be bailed out to protect the conumers money that the banks invested stupidly. If you don't learn from your mistakes you're bound to repeat them.

#53 | Posted by danni at 2019-12-20 10:37 AM | Reply

you're bound to repeat them.

#53 | POSTED BY DANNI

Yap.

It won't be long until they get a blank check from the very people who say "by bu bu but by bbbbuuuutttttt we can afford ANYTHING!!!" again.

#54 | Posted by MrSilenceDogood at 2019-12-20 12:07 PM | Reply

No doc loans, get your no doc loans, variable interest rates, pay no attention to 2007, that was just an anomaly and then that bastard Obama shoved reforms down our throats resulting in the economy we have today but which Trump is determined to blow up. He has much in common with that idiot Bush.

#55 | Posted by danni at 2019-12-20 02:10 PM | Reply

#10 give me trump or give me death! Lol

#56 | Posted by fresno500 at 2019-12-20 03:31 PM | Reply

The country is deeply divided, the first step to civil war

The phrase "civil war" is nowhere to be found in the linked article.

Typical boazo wet dream.

#57 | Posted by Hans at 2019-12-20 03:36 PM | Reply

Typical boazo wet dream.

He's been dreaming about a civil war since 2012.

#58 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-12-20 03:44 PM | Reply

I am not opposed to the idea of this country allowing secession. Once upon a time I would have been aghast at the notion. Now, we are so, so divided, that it probably would be best for everyone. At this point, in many ways I consider myself more of a Californian than an American. When I see the hatred and garbage that comes out of Florida, Texas and the rest of the deep South, I really want nothing to do with them. Let's not argue. Let's just go our separate ways.

#59 | Posted by moder8 at 2019-12-20 03:58 PM | Reply

--At this point, in many ways I consider myself more of a Californian than an American.

Of course, America hater. That's the difference between leftwing crazies like you, and us normals. I'm an American first, a Californian second.

#60 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-12-20 04:08 PM | Reply

"I consider myself more of a Californian"

giphy.com

one these I imagine.

#61 | Posted by eberly at 2019-12-20 04:21 PM | Reply

You aren't tough enough to last the first day Boaz.

#62 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2019-12-20 04:22 PM | Reply

"Let's not argue. Let's just go our separate ways."

And just screw us liberals living in Florida all of our lives. Bad idea. I am not a Floridian first, I am an American, I do not want to live in any state run by people who think being an American is a disadvantage.

#63 | Posted by danni at 2019-12-20 04:26 PM | Reply

"Of course, America hater. That's the difference between leftwing crazies like you, and us normals."

This new meme that people like Nulli are "normals" is utter bull crap. I refuse to acknowledge that self-description, they aren't normal at all.

#64 | Posted by danni at 2019-12-20 04:28 PM | Reply

--I do not want to live in any state run by people who think being an American is a disadvantage.

Can't blame you for not wanting to live in a state that ModerHate resides in.

#65 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-12-20 04:34 PM | Reply

"Bad idea. I am not a Floridian first, I am an American,"

You've been hysterical at times......now you see someone else standing on the ledge about to jump.

"we are so, so divided,"

No, we aren't. You're just spending too much time on in the internet listening to too many negative nancys.

#66 | Posted by eberly at 2019-12-20 04:38 PM | Reply

--You're just spending too much time on in the internet listening to too many negative nancys.

Uhm, she's one of the negative nancies. In fact, probably the most negative nancy on the retort.

#67 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-12-20 04:47 PM | Reply

67

She has some stiff competition.

#68 | Posted by eberly at 2019-12-20 04:48 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#59 | POSTED BY MODER8

"You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave."

#69 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-12-20 06:29 PM | Reply

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