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Friday, December 27, 2019

The Tennessee Star reported that a bill has been proposed in the Tennessee General Assembly that would require student-athletes at elementary and secondary schools to compete in sports against competitors of their own sex at birth, not whatever gender they claim.

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Why this is even controversial is beyond me. It's more common sense than anything.

#1 | Posted by boaz at 2019-12-27 02:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Funny how they don't try to push this on college age adults... I think I know why...

Boaz, from an intellectual standpoint, why doesn't your understanding of "freedom" and "liberty" afford people the opportunity to be whatever gender they say they are?

#2 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-12-27 03:18 PM | Reply

why doesn't your understanding of "freedom" and "liberty" afford people the opportunity to be whatever gender they say they are?
#2 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

You can say what ever you like ...

Why does your understanding of freedom impose on others?

#3 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-12-27 03:25 PM | Reply

"Why does your understanding of freedom impose on others?"

What's being imposed on you, Boaz, when I inform you of my gender?
???

#4 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-12-27 03:26 PM | Reply

What gender do you think you are, Andrea, a mattress, and why does your understanding of freedom impose your gender choice on me?

#5 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-12-27 03:29 PM | Reply

It shouldn't be this easy to shut you two up.

Hurry up and decide which gender(s) you are, Andrea a mattress,
Then Boaz can tell you how wrong you are, to even think you have the right to make that choice for yourself.
Your understanding of freedom imposes on others, especially Boaz.

#6 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-12-27 03:46 PM | Reply

You are a dishonest broker Boaz. Just like Jeff on this subject. You know nothing.

#7 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2019-12-27 03:53 PM | Reply

So Boaz, do you support women having to play against trans males?
Who do you think this guy should be competing against?
www.npr.org

Or how about this person?
www.cnbc.com

This Tennessee law would force such men to have to compete against women.

And what's your feelings on people who were not assigned a sex at birth? How about those who are incorrectly sexed at birth? How about males with no Y chromosome or females with one?

#8 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2019-12-27 04:59 PM | Reply

Laura,

If you were a woman you'd have a different attitude.

Women shouldn't have fight to this right to compete fairly.

#9 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2019-12-27 06:23 PM | Reply

Women aren't fighting for this right, BillJohnson.

It's the Tennessee General Assembly.

This isn't a grassroots movement, you goon.

#10 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-12-27 06:36 PM | Reply

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Snoofy,

"Women aren't fighting for this right, BillJohnson."

And you don't think it was women (and men who are married to one) who pushed for this?

#11 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2019-12-27 06:42 PM | Reply

Laura,
If you were a woman you'd have a different attitude.
Women shouldn't have fight to this right to compete fairly.

POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON AT 2019-12-27 06:23 PM | REPLY

Honey a little piece of advice. Stick to what you know. A gay man living a straight life so his sky daddy doesn't punish him in the afterlife.

#12 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2019-12-27 06:56 PM | Reply

Snoofy,

"This isn't a grassroots movement, you goon."

You don't think this sort of bill couldn't spread to other states?

Sounds fairly grassroots to me.

#13 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2019-12-27 06:57 PM | Reply

"And you don't think it was women (and men who are married to one) who pushed for this?"

^
I like how men who are married to a woman get a free woman proxy vote.

#14 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-12-27 06:58 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#8 | POSTED BY JOHNNY_HOTSAUCE AT 2019-12-27 04:59 PM

She should have been barred from competing due to all the testosterone she was taking and everything else required to transition. She was basically the equivalent of a roided up female.

#15 | Posted by byrdman at 2019-12-27 06:59 PM | Reply

"You don't think this sort of bill couldn't spread to other states?"

I think it spread from North Carolina, where Republicans engineered in a focus group lab of haters and bigots like you and Boaz.

#16 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-12-27 06:59 PM | Reply

"She should have been barred from competing due to all the testosterone she was taking"

I have zero problems with this.
Let the sport handle it.
No need to invoke the legislature.

But I guess there are some cops who'd get special pleasure out of "man"-handling a trans woman, so we should be sensitive their needs too.

#17 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-12-27 07:01 PM | Reply

Snoofy,

"I think it spread from North Carolina"

Yea...but wasn't NC acting in response to something being put forth by the LGBT crowd first having something to do with bathrooms?

North Carolina didn't just up and one day decide to go attack transgendered people who frankly have been living among us for decades without a great deal of drama.

#18 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2019-12-27 07:12 PM | Reply

Laura,

"Stick to what you know."

Oh...I see...

So with you...the fact women are being bullied by gays and transgendered "women" is something you know all about so apparently you just don't care?

Is that it?

You could just care less about women even though you "know" they are getting the short end of the stick in this matter?

#19 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2019-12-27 07:18 PM | Reply

the fact women are being bullied by gays and transgendered "women" is something you know all about so apparently you just don't care?

Citation necessary.

#20 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-12-27 07:20 PM | Reply

The worst male athlete of all-time would be the greatest female athlete of all-time.

I submit as evidence, one Andrew Kaufman -Inter Gender Wrestling Champion

#21 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2019-12-27 07:21 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

So with you...the fact women are being bullied by gays and transgendered "women" is something you know all about so apparently you just don't care?
Is that it?
You could just care less about women even though you "know" they are getting the short end of the stick in this matter?

POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON AT 2019-12-27 07:18 PM | REPLY

Your bitterness is showing. You should get that checked out.

#22 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2019-12-27 07:38 PM | Reply

Clown,

"the fact women are being bullied by gays and transgendered "women"
Citation necessary."

www.westernjournal.com

#23 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2019-12-27 08:37 PM | Reply

Clown,
"the fact women are being bullied by gays and transgendered "women"
Citation necessary."
www.westernjournal.com

POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON AT 2019-12-27 08:37 PM | REPLY

Awwwwwwwww using the same link as the thread is based upon which is bullschit is darling. You are a discredited bitter gay man that can't stand open and honest LGBTQIA Folks that have the balls to live authentically. You poor dear.

#24 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2019-12-27 09:07 PM | Reply

This whole article I posted is a "citation".

Did you see the pic? That black DUDE, who is kicking the WOMEN's asses in the race is just that, A MAN DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN. He is not a woman and he should not be competing against born women.

#25 | Posted by boaz at 2019-12-27 09:09 PM | Reply

Folks that have the balls to live authentically.

Very interesting you used that. Since Transgender women, like yourself, actually have balls.

Do women have balls Laura?

#26 | Posted by boaz at 2019-12-27 09:11 PM | Reply

Laura,

"LGBTQIA Folks that have the balls to live authentically."

There is nothing fake about my life.

I don't spend my life seeking affirmation from others to make me real.

#27 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2019-12-27 09:13 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Very interesting you used that. Since Transgender women, like yourself, actually have balls.
Do women have balls Laura?

POSTED BY BOAZ AT 2019-12-27 09:11 PM | REPLY

It's an idiom. Look into them so you aren't so stupid next time.

#28 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2019-12-27 09:20 PM | Reply

"Do women have balls"

Of course they do. Source: AC/DC

#29 | Posted by sentinel at 2019-12-27 09:31 PM | Reply

Did you see the pic? That black DUDE, who is kicking the WOMEN's asses in the race is just that, A MAN DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN. He is not a woman and he should not be competing against born women.

POSTED BY BOAZ AT 2019-12-27 09:09 PM | REPLY

Whatever you say TERD

#30 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2019-12-27 09:38 PM | Reply

Hello, any sane people out there? This whole "recognizing people only as their birth sex" and "anybody can access any space they want free-for-all based only on their words" are BOTH crap.

#31 | Posted by sentinel at 2019-12-27 09:42 PM | Reply

#18

The city of Charlotte passed a local level ant-discrimination law 7-4 one month later the NC house overrode it.

So a local law passed with 63% of the vote was such a huge attack on the rest of the state that the state government had to call an emergency session to override it.

This is the something put forward by the LGBT crowd.

#32 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2019-12-27 09:45 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Someone on the right figured out that this works as a wedge issue, like illegal immigration, and sure enough the left falls for it every time. Open borders and and open bathrooms helped get Trump elected.

#33 | Posted by sentinel at 2019-12-27 09:51 PM | Reply

#32,

You are correct Tao,

This was more LGBTQ from out of state than anything else.

Liberals cant stay in their own locals, they want to FORCE their opinions and lifestyles on other places.

THIS is why we need the electoral college..

#34 | Posted by boaz at 2019-12-27 09:53 PM | Reply

There is nothing fake about my life.
I don't spend my life seeking affirmation from others to make me real.
POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON AT 2019-12-27 09:13 PM | REPLY

Riighhhhhhttttttttttt That's why you attack those who are out and proud at every opportunity. If you really were content with your life you wouldn't feel the need to attack others who are living their truth.

#35 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2019-12-27 10:09 PM | Reply

Laura,

All -------- aside,

You know I support you coming out. Hell, I'll even ---- you if you get under 120LBS, (depending on how your feet look)..

BUT,

YOU know this is wrong for people born MEN to be competing against born women. Especially if they have transitioned AFTER the age of 20 or so. The advantages of the teenage years is just too great and cannot be erased.

If you are being honest with yourself, YOU KNOW this is wrong for the LGBT community to be supporting..

#36 | Posted by boaz at 2019-12-27 10:21 PM | Reply

There is nothing fake about my life.
I don't spend my life seeking affirmation from others to make me real.
POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON AT 2019-12-27 09:13 PM | REPLY

Riighhhhhhttttttttttt That's why you spend your waking hours using a fake on-line user name, groveling for affirmation from a bunch of anonymous DR posters. You are about as real as the picture of Captain Crunch on the cover of a cereal box. Get off your soap box and look in a mirror.

#37 | Posted by moder8 at 2019-12-27 10:22 PM | Reply

--That's why you spend your waking hours using a fake on-line user name,

Is "moder8" your true first name or surname?

#38 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-12-27 10:28 PM | Reply

Nulli, go be useful. Contract a terminal illness already, or something.

No I'm not real. And no you are not real. We are on-line personae. Nothing more. If you lose sight of that, you are taking this place FAR too seriously.

#39 | Posted by moder8 at 2019-12-27 10:31 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Moder8,

You are real. I know who you are. You are a respected attorney in California.

You have posted who you are on here for all to see. I respect that. Plus, you are a RAMS fan.

You are real.

Act like it.

#40 | Posted by boaz at 2019-12-27 10:35 PM | Reply

--Contract a terminal illness already, or something.

Posted by someone who fraudently claims to be a "moderate." Change your name to Hater8, faker.

#41 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-12-27 10:35 PM | Reply

Nulli, you are a dishonest piece of ----. Even you know it. Of course an honest, dyed in the wool moderate such as myself despises you and all your dishonesty. Cry me a river bitch... Or better yet, do something useful. Contract a terminal illness and spare the rest of us from your noxious existence.

#42 | Posted by moder8 at 2019-12-27 10:41 PM | Reply

-- Of course an honest, dyed in the wool moderate such as myself

lol. What a lying phony. Saul Goodman is more honest than you.

#43 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-12-27 10:45 PM | Reply

Boaz,

Moder8 is not real. My real name is Bradley Wilson. I am a die-hard Republican. I loathe liberals. By trade I am a divorce lawyer. I live in 5000 square foot condo in downtown Houston. When I'm not buying more guns (you oughta see my arsenal) or paying for expensive hookers, I spend my time here on the DR pretending to be a liberal -----. Go Texans!

#44 | Posted by moder8 at 2019-12-27 10:47 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#44,

You dont think I know that?

I remember when you were running for office in Texas...

You remember that?

#45 | Posted by boaz at 2019-12-27 10:59 PM | Reply

You know I support you coming out. Hell, I'll even ---- you if you get under 120LBS, (depending on how your feet look)..

Yeah righttttt you support my coming out by attacking us at every turn. Some support that is. As far as you doing the nasty with me sorry sweetie. I want a REAL Alpha that doesn't whine. You whine way too much for me
BUT,
YOU know this is wrong for people born MEN to be competing against born women. Especially if they have transitioned AFTER the age of 20 or so. The advantages of the teenage years is just too great and cannot be erased

NOBODY is born a man or a woman. Physically impossible.
If you are being honest with yourself, YOU KNOW this is wrong for the LGBT community to be supporting..

WRONG it is absolutely correct to support this To fight for trans rights is fighting for human rights.

POSTED BY BOAZ AT 2019-12-27 10:21 PM | REPLY

#46 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2019-12-27 11:03 PM | Reply

NOBODY is born a man or a woman. Physically impossible.

Ok, you have gone into looney land.

When you are born, you either have a penis or vagina. You cant escape that FACT Laura...

#47 | Posted by boaz at 2019-12-27 11:05 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

When I get tired of pretending to be a ----- liberal, I use my alter-ego sock pocket persona of Nullifidian. Just to show off what a true ------- I can be. (It's cheaper than therapy.)

#48 | Posted by moder8 at 2019-12-27 11:06 PM | Reply

When I get tired of pretending to be a ----- liberal, I use my alter-ego sock pocket persona of Nullifidian. Just to show off what a true ------- I can be. (It's cheaper than therapy.)

#49 | Posted by moder8 at 2019-12-27 11:06 PM | Reply

Anyone see this is exactly like a climate change extremist thread?

IF you aren't all in you must a be a .....

#50 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-12-27 11:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

When you are born, you either have a penis or vagina. You cant escape that FACT Laura...

POSTED BY BOAZ AT 2019-12-27 11:05 PM | REPLY

You was born with a penis yet you whine like a little girl. BTW I have tried to educate you on the subject matter. You willfully stay ignorant because it's your mental capacity.

#51 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2019-12-27 11:14 PM | Reply

NOBODY is born a man or a woman. Physically impossible.
POSTED BY LAURAMOHR AT

WTF seriously you can't believe that can you? I know there are rare instances when people get their chromosomes messed up but generally yes you are born one or the other.

#52 | Posted by byrdman at 2019-12-27 11:32 PM | Reply

WTF seriously you can't believe that can you? I know there are rare instances when people get their chromosomes messed up but generally yes you are born one or the other.

POSTED BY BYRDMAN AT 2019-12-27 11:32 PM | REPLY

Nobody is born an adult that's what a man or a woman signifies. An adult person.

#53 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2019-12-27 11:54 PM | Reply

"Nobody is born an adult"

Sometimes they are. Source: Mork and Mindy

#54 | Posted by sentinel at 2019-12-28 12:30 AM | Reply

"Yea...but wasn't NC acting in response to something being put forth by the LGBT crowd first having something to do with bathrooms?"

No.

#55 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-12-28 01:51 AM | Reply

"WTF seriously you can't believe that can you? I know there are rare instances when people get their chromosomes messed up but generally yes you are born one or the other."

But where does it say you can't change your mind later?
Look into fetal exposure to DES. It can make up your mind for you.

#56 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-12-28 01:59 AM | Reply

"sure enough the left falls for it every time"

LOL.
The left falls for basic human rights, every time!

#57 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-12-28 02:14 AM | Reply

"The left falls for basic human rights, every time!"

A dude being able to pretend his is a chick is a basic human right.

Forcing the rest of the world to pretend as well is not.

#58 | Posted by madbomber at 2019-12-28 05:57 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Time to eliminate all competition's separation by category.

No more age, sex, gender, height, weight, political party, etc. classed competition.

It's all discrimination to support any division. We are all equal and should all compete on the same field of play.

Either compete to be the best or join clubs with participation awards.

#59 | Posted by Petrous at 2019-12-28 09:49 AM | Reply

Desegregate now! Because not allowing Bluto to chase Olive Oil around the track and field and then shower naked with her based on his word that he's feeling gender fluid that day is a violation of his human rights, no different than how blacks were treated!

#60 | Posted by sentinel at 2019-12-28 10:00 AM | Reply

Laura throwing this out as a real question and not a troll as I've been trying to look at things in relation to most human attributes being on a spectrum. I'm a fully straight male, no curiosity at all. I'm tech nerd, still play D&D with my highschool friends online as a way to stay in touch with each other. If asked to describe what feels like to be a man I don't think I'd be able to answer that necessarily, as I often feel like I don't necessarily feel like I fit in in a group of other guys.

So the question is for you, how do you know you feel you are a woman. I've asked my wife the same question and she feels it just as hard to answer as I do.

This leads me to.. while sexuality is being discovered to be more of a spectrum, and gender is a close neighbor... could it be like a spectrum as well, with transgendered women being close to women on that spectrum but still a unique entity unto themselves?

If this were true, trying to argue and legislate this as a binary will ultimately be a fruitless fight.

#61 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2019-12-28 10:33 AM | Reply

KW,

"while sexuality is being discovered to be more of a spectrum, and gender is a close neighbor....could it be like a spectrum as well"

Regarding sexuality being on a spectrum, I once spent extended time with a highly educated and experienced professional dealing with cognitive therapy and human sexuality.

He said there isn't a single spectrum. There are more than one.

Imagine both straight and gay being on a spectrum each of their own...and not a single spectrum with one side weakening as the other strengthens.

I can't begin to understand being transgender since I am fully integrated with my male identity.

Personally...I suspect Laura and Larry coexist rather than one or the other.

I live with dual sexual attractions and Laura lives with dual gender identities.

But we live in a binary world that is not very accommodating.

Just my opinion...

#62 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2019-12-28 12:28 PM | Reply

You are a dishonest broker Boaz. Just like Jeff on this subject. You know nothing.

#7 | POSTED BY LAURAMOHR AT 2019-12-27 03:53 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

And it only took you 15 years to figure that one out. I can't wait to see what the next 15 bring us in Laura-wisdom.

"Fool me once, shame on...shame on you. Fool me"you can't get fooled again."
-GWB

#63 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-12-28 12:33 PM | Reply

When you are born, you either have a penis or vagina. You cant escape that FACT Laura...

#47 | POSTED BY BOAZ

Well except for the people who are born without either penis or vagina or are born with penis and vagina or have something in between. What division would you have them play in, men or women?

#64 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2019-12-28 02:45 PM | Reply

"A dude being able to pretend his is a chick is a basic human right.
#58 | POSTED BY MADBOMBER"

You fell for it too?
Maybe there's hope for you yet!

#65 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-12-28 03:32 PM | Reply

But where does it say you can't change your mind later?

Close your eyes and say "I am a woman!" Look between your legs and I bet your penis is still there. Guess what, you aint a woman.

You can decide to ACT like a woman, you can exaggerate female movements, but you will still be a biological man.

I just want someone on the left to admit that. To not do so, is to deny reality...

Well except for the people who are born without either penis or vagina or are born with penis and vagina or have something in between.

That's so rare that is doesnt even deserve being mentioned and you know it. It's so rare it's called a disorder.

In humans, conditions that involve discrepancies between external genitalia and internal reproductive organs are described by the term intersex. Intersex conditions are sometimes also referred to as disorders of sexual development (DSDs). Such conditions are extremely rare in humans.

#66 | Posted by boaz at 2019-12-28 04:14 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Close your eyes and say "I am a woman!" Look between your legs and I bet your penis is still there. Guess what, you aint a woman."

So you get to decide what gender people are, not them.
Please explain how this aligns with your understanding of Freedom and Liberty.

#67 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-12-28 04:18 PM | Reply

Close your eyes and say "I am a woman!" Look between your legs and I bet your penis is still there.

Boaz speaks from first hand experience.

#68 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-12-28 04:19 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

"When you are born, you either have a penis or vagina."

^
You are conflating sex, which is a biological phenotype, with gender, a mental construct.

Biologically, you're still a male after you get your manly parts blown up by an IED.

But according to your "look down" definition, you are no longer a man after that.

I suggest you explain it to affected veterans, as a way of thanking them for their service.

#69 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-12-28 04:24 PM | Reply

Boaz is still coping with his drunken adventure on the wild side while on shore leave.

He doth protest too much.

#70 | Posted by bored at 2019-12-28 04:40 PM | Reply

"He doth protest too much."

Did he forget the cardinal rule:
Don't Look Down!

#71 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-12-28 04:41 PM | Reply

The Sun Also Rises

#72 | Posted by sentinel at 2019-12-28 06:31 PM | Reply

You know it's sad when Native Americans centuries ago were more enlightened than Boaz. Of course he hates thinking. He's said so repeatedly.

#73 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2019-12-28 08:11 PM | Reply

Why this is even controversial is beyond me. It's more common sense than anything.

#1 | Posted by boaz at 2019-12-27 02:26 PM | Reply

"A lot" is also common sense unless your boaz then its "alot". Some folks are just hard wired, unable to change.

#74 | Posted by Scotty at 2019-12-28 08:28 PM | Reply

"Some folks are just hard wired, unable to change."

Many more people aren't. That's why it makes sense to have professionals evaluate it on a case by case basis, rather than just "whatever you say, no questions asked."

#75 | Posted by sentinel at 2019-12-28 09:25 PM | Reply

Biologically, you're still a male after you get your manly parts blown up by an IED.

Or taken off in an operation. There, Snoofy is finally coming around to what I have been saying. It's still a male, no matter what cosmetic changes you make.

So that being the case, why should society consider a biological male, a female? Why would we let a biological male run as if they are a female? It's denying a truth and reality.

No matter what you say, it's still mixed gender sports.

#76 | Posted by boaz at 2019-12-29 08:42 AM | Reply

You know it's sad when Native Americans centuries ago were more enlightened than Boaz.

The native Americans were savages. And I dont think their society was a transgender utopia you think it was. Their's was a patriarchal, violent society.

#77 | Posted by boaz at 2019-12-29 08:45 AM | Reply

You know it's sad when Native Americans centuries ago were more enlightened than Boaz. Of course he hates thinking. He's said so repeatedly. #73 | POSTED BY LAURAMOHR

Those bums couldn't even figure out tables or chairs

#78 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2019-12-29 10:27 AM | Reply

The native Americans were savages.

No dummkopt. They were a civilized society. You're using a fraudulent white man desctiption of them

And I dont think their society was a transgender utopia you think it was.

Actually we were revered in their society. Not reviled

Their's was a patriarchal, violent society.

No dummkopt. You're thinking of Christianity

POSTED BY BOAZ AT 2019-12-29 08:45 AM | REPLY

#79 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2019-12-29 11:32 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

dummkopf

www.merriam-webster.com

#80 | Posted by byrdman at 2019-12-29 11:35 AM | Reply

What is "dummkopt?"

Do you mean "dummkopf?"

#81 | Posted by madbomber at 2019-12-29 11:36 AM | Reply

"You are conflating sex, which is a biological phenotype, with gender, a mental construct."

If you're going to segregate sports, wouldn't it make more sense to do it by biological phenotype? Why base it on what someone chooses?

Should sports be segregated by religion as well? Favorite colors, maybe?

#82 | Posted by madbomber at 2019-12-29 11:39 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Those bums couldn't even figure out tables or chairs

POSTED BY GONOLES92 AT 2019-12-29 10:27 AM | REPLY

Racist much??

#83 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2019-12-29 11:41 AM | Reply

Racist much??

#83 | POSTED BY LAURAMOHR

I didn't even bring up their slow adaptation to the wheel or plows. Not racist, just technology.

#84 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2019-12-29 11:43 AM | Reply

"No dummkopt. They were a civilized society."

How do? If we aren't using an accurate definition of civilized, then use yours.

Tell us how they were civilized.

#85 | Posted by eberly at 2019-12-29 11:52 AM | Reply

--The native Americans were savages.

Yeah, but they were noble savages!

Except of course when they scalping each other, practicing cannabilism and ritual sacrifice.

#86 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-12-29 11:57 AM | Reply

Catholics do ritual cannibalism every day

#87 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-12-29 12:09 PM | Reply

"No dummkopt. They were a civilized society."

They had a society... but little to no agriculture

#88 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2019-12-29 12:22 PM | Reply

#88 | POSTED BY GONOLES92

Not singular society .. it was more like the Greeks.

Tribes running around killing each other, or decimating the forests to the point of that societies failure.
www.smithsonianmag.com

#89 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-12-29 12:35 PM | Reply

The ignorant people in this thread need to stop talking about native Americans as a monolithic group. There were tribes who were hunter-gatherers, and others who developed into city-state empires, and all the brutality that comes with that.

#90 | Posted by sentinel at 2019-12-29 12:42 PM | Reply

Those gut eaters sure adapted to the white man's ways when they could put casinos on the reservation.

#91 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2019-12-29 01:16 PM | Reply

#91 | POSTED BY LEE_THE_AGENT

Pretty sure that was happening before the casinos.

But Casinos helped white man learn where the reservations where.

#92 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-12-29 01:47 PM | Reply

Of course it was happening before the casinos. It started with fire water.

#93 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2019-12-29 02:12 PM | Reply

Tribes running around killing each other, or decimating the forests to the point of that societies failure.
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#89 | Posted by AndreaMackris

sounds like a good description of white history

#94 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-12-29 02:52 PM | Reply

Laura really, nothing on #61?

#95 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2019-12-30 06:49 AM | Reply

I'm wondering if change is retroactive. Should the performances by Bruce Jenner now be considered as women's sports?

#96 | Posted by Charliecharles at 2019-12-30 08:57 AM | Reply

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