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Christian pastor: If US didn't kill Iranian general, Trump would have been in rebellion against God'

Right-wing pastor and avid Trump supporter Rick Joyner is crediting the President with doing God's work by ordering the airstrike that killed Iran's top military official, Qassem Soleimani.

Citing a verse in the bible, Joyner noted: "civil governments have not been given the sword for nothing. The sword is military power, but to avenge evil."

Had the president not acted, he "would have been in rebellion against God if [he] did not avenge evil" by killing Soleimani, Joyner said.


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Pro-Trump pastor: God told me he sent Trump to open the doors for his gospels'

As the founder of King Jesus International Ministry, Guillermo Maldonado is associated with a number of "dominionist" and so-called "apostles," including self-appointed "prophet" Lance Wallnau, and he's part of the Evangelicals for Trump campaign which kicks off in Miami, Florida on Friday.

Like his fellow Trump-supporting evangelicals, Maldonado believes Trump is a harbinger of the End Times, raised by God to mark the second coming of Christ. At the 2019 Global Prophetic Summit, which was hosted by Jacobs' Generals International in November, he said God had told him:

"America, I have prepared this time, I have raised somebody in office to open the doors for my gospels."

He warned that the time is ripe for a civil war in the United States.

"The Lord showed me what is going to happen in America," Maldonado said. "The Lord said What you saw, there's a white horse that has been released upon the earth of civil wars,' and then he said That horse is coming upon America.'"


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#1 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-01-04 01:01 AM | Reply

Video of Evangelical preachers praying over Trump before his rally last night in Miami--watch Trump's face:

Aaron Rupar @atrupar

Yikes. Major cult energy at Trump's evangelical event in Miami.

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Daniel Dale @ddale8

Here's a thread on Trump's speech to Latino evangelicals in Florida, which featured the usual dishonesty and some novel religion content.

Trump: "America was not built by religion-hating socialists. America was built by church-going, God-worshipping, freedom-loving patriots."

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#2 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-01-04 01:21 AM | Reply

Absolutely.

#3 | Posted by Greatamerican at 2020-01-04 02:01 AM | Reply

Except when it's time to enlist and actually go fight it.

#4 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2020-01-04 05:33 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

He warned that the time is ripe for a civil war in the United States.

"The Lord showed me what is going to happen in America," Maldonado said. "The Lord said What you saw, there's a white horse that has been released upon the earth of civil wars,' and then he said That horse is coming upon America.'"

#1 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-0

People like this think war is something that happens to other people, something you see on TV. Here's hoping that the first bullet fired finds him.

It was the same when George W. Bush was in charge. The Right ALSO greeted him as Messiah.

#5 | Posted by Zed at 2020-01-04 09:12 AM | Reply

The same fools supported Bush blindly like the morons they are, how did that fiasco turn out? And the religious cult leaders claiming things like: "If US didn't kill Iranian general, Trump would have been in rebellion against God." I hope God heard him and punishes him for his arrogance, to think that this puffed up cult leader thinks he speaks for God....that is sacrilege.

#6 | Posted by danni at 2020-01-04 10:10 AM | Reply

Danni,

I have my doubts Trump did this at the suggestion of any Christian leaders.

He doesn't strike me as that type of leader.

And he certainly doesn't strike me as the type of person to ask God for guidance.

Trump did what he believed was necessary.

Personally...I really don't have an opinion just yet.

Leaving God out of the equation....I have a question.

How do we "know" killing the Iranian general didn't actually prevent a major war?

Time will tell.

#7 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2020-01-04 10:36 AM | Reply

Trump did what he believed was necessary.

#7 | Posted by BillJohnson a

For himself.

#8 | Posted by Zed at 2020-01-04 12:04 PM | Reply

How do we "know" killing the Iranian general didn't actually prevent a major war?

#7 | Posted by BillJohnson a

You're going to get nothing but BS from Trump on that one.

The official line seems to be that killing this man was revenge for 911.

#9 | Posted by Zed at 2020-01-04 12:06 PM | Reply

Trump tells evangelical rally he will put prayer in schools

U.S. President Donald Trump on Friday said his Democratic opponents would tear down crosses and pledged to bring prayer to public schools at a re-election rally to shore up evangelical support.

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#10 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-01-04 12:29 PM | Reply

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IMPOTUS was always going to start a war but I though he's wait until closer to the election. I guess he wants to push impeachment out of the news.

#11 | Posted by SomebodyElse at 2020-01-04 01:40 PM | Reply

We have been assassinating our way across South American and Africa and unilaterally producing "regime change" wherever we please since WW2.

Why get upset now? We are that rogue nation. We built this.

Start off with a full 30in. step!

#12 | Posted by fresno500 at 2020-01-04 02:55 PM | Reply

If Trump is a big enough ------- to start a war, I hope Iran bombs the ---- out of Mar a Lago. And Trump Tower in NYC.

#13 | Posted by moder8 at 2020-01-04 04:12 PM | Reply

I like the part about God telling him what's going to happen... that same God told me these people are dangerous pedophiles and I should keep my kids safe from them.

Matthew 24:36
But concerning that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father only.

#14 | Posted by 503jc69 at 2020-01-04 04:15 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Give them guns and ship them off to die.

The survivors can leech off our socialist military system.

#15 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-01-04 04:15 PM | Reply

I hope Iran bombs the ---- out of Mar a Lago. And Trump Tower in NYC.

#13 | POSTED BY MODER8 AT 2020-01-04 04:12 PM

Moderhate's patriotism on full display...should they evacuate them first, or just let all the residents and workers die as well?

#16 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2020-01-04 04:24 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Evacuate the civilians. But make sure Trump is sitting by the pool when the bombs fall.

#17 | Posted by moder8 at 2020-01-04 04:27 PM | Reply

Trump's faithful will never go to war but they will gladly sacrifice other American's Lives for Trump

#18 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2020-01-04 04:45 PM | Reply

Trump's faithful will never go to war but they will gladly sacrifice other American's Lives for Trump

#18 | POSTED BY HATTER5183 AT 2020-01-04 04:45 PM

Not true at at all. Many like myself can say we served. Sadly there is still a lot of people living that need to be killed. Trump realizes it and is willing to make the right calls.

#19 | Posted by byrdman at 2020-01-04 04:50 PM | Reply

F the evangelicals. Anti-American phonies who know Trump is a cretin but in public they wink and claim he's a friend of Christianity.

They have shown their true colors. It's orange"and it's all over their lips.

#20 | Posted by cbob at 2020-01-04 07:58 PM | Reply

the war with Iran was always a thing... McCain tried it a while back. Timing is everything.. Trump is just another spoke in the wheel of imperialism in the Middle east.

#21 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2020-01-04 08:02 PM | Reply

Many like myself can say we served. Sadly there is still a lot of people living that need to be killed. Trump realizes it and is willing to make the right calls.
#19 | POSTED BY BYRDMAN

The sociopath has spoken.

World would be a lot better off without people like you in it.

#22 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-01-04 08:52 PM | Reply

Sadly there is still a lot of people living that need to be killed. Trump realizes it and is willing to make the right calls.

#19 | POSTED BY BYRDMAN AT 2020-01-04 04:50 PM | REPLY |

Another display of the republican pro-life principle. You are just a pawn killing other pawns while the kings count the money and tell you if you work harder you can be king too.

#23 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2020-01-04 09:09 PM | Reply

To war?

By attacking UK ship in Hormuz, kidnapping sailors,missiles at Aramco,downing US drone,killing US contractor& raiding US embassy, Iran had already effectively declared war

World would be a lot better off without people like you in it.
#22 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK

Along with all the homophobic bigots like yourself.

#24 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2020-01-04 09:21 PM | Reply

Matthew 24:36
But concerning that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father only.
#14 | Posted by 503jc69

Exactly. I was trying to recall that verse earlier today and intended to look it up. Now I don't have to. TY

#25 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-01-04 09:24 PM | Reply

Along with all the homophobic bigots like yourself.
#24 | POSTED BY A, MATTRESS

Shut up you lying POS.

I'll fffk you better than your dad ever could.

#26 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-01-04 09:24 PM | Reply

Trump did what he believed was necessary.

To save his presidency.

He literally changed the news.

#27 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-01-04 09:26 PM | Reply

Since the Trump zombies are so horny for a war, I suggest they get some skin in the game, literally.
Sign up for some front line combat duty immediately . Also sign up your kids and grandkids if over the age of 18.

It's easy to be for war when others get to do the dying, it's time for some (R)traded chickenhawks to take over that role.

Come on you self proclaimed patriots, put your fat asses where your mouth is.

I'll pay for the camelflouge paint job on Fat Andy Mattressses scooter if his lard ass signs up.

#28 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2020-01-04 10:35 PM | Reply

#28 Aborted Monson,

Sirrah,
Have you looked carefully at the participants at a Trump Rally? They are mostly old people, fat people, and deplorable people, none of whom will EVER have to worry about donning a uniform. Their children, on the other hand, will become Trump's cannon fodder.

"Be the first one on your block to have your boy come home in a box!" - Country Joe MacDonald
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#29 | Posted by john47 at 2020-01-05 08:54 AM | Reply

Trump's Faithful Will Follow Him to War...just loke Obama's acolytes cheered when he struck Libya, Syria, Pakistan...

Refresh my memory...how many drone assassinatiins did Obama carry out, and how many died as a result?

#30 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2020-01-05 06:16 PM | Reply

Shut up you lying POS.
#26 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK

Not lying ... you even admitted it was supposed to be "joke".

#31 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2020-01-05 06:25 PM | Reply

I'll fffk you better than your dad ever could.
#26 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK

Ah, more bigoted homosexual posts ....

#32 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2020-01-05 06:26 PM | Reply

Except when it's time to enlist and actually go fight it.

#4 | Posted by TFDNihilist

Or worse yet, the draft is reinstated and it's their kids and grandkids who are marched-off to war to protect the oil fields of Saudi Arabia.

OCU

#33 | Posted by OCUser at 2020-01-05 07:17 PM | Reply

>Trump's Faithful Will Follow Him to War
headline is yet another needless journalistic sin of tautology. Highlighting the sins of the faithful is easy. Obomber and Shrillery destroyed Gadaffi to give us slave markets. Most react to evidence contrary to their political positions by becoming more entrenched. Most of you are NPCs.

#34 | Posted by berserkone at 2020-01-05 09:44 PM | Reply

Speak English Berserkone or Trump will have you deported.

#35 | Posted by Zed at 2020-01-05 09:54 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Among other things, president Barack Obama:

Dropped bombs in 7 countries (all predominantly Muslim).
Sent 3,500 U.S. troops and tanks to Russia's doorstep in one of his final decisions as president.
Ordered ten times more drone strikes than Bush.
Dropped 26,171 bombs in 2016 alone (an average of 72 bombs every day).
Put boots on the ground in Syria , despite 16 times saying "no boots on the ground".
Despite campaign pledges, planned a $1 trillion progam to add more nuclear weapons to the US arsenal in the next 30 years.
Said, "I believe in American exceptionalism with every fiber of my being."
Bragged about his use of drones - I'm "really good at killing people".
Deported a modern-record 2 million immigrants.
Just like Trump, separated immigrant children from their families.
Signed the Monsanto Protection Act into law.
Started a new war in Iraq.
Initiated, and personally oversaw a 'Secret Kill List'.
Pushed for war on Syria while siding with al-Qaeda.
Knowingly Funded a Designated al-Qaeda Affiliate.
Backed neo-Nazis in Ukraine.
Supported Israel's wars and occupation of Palestine.
Deployed Special Ops to 134 countries - compared to 60 under Bush.
Did a TV commercial promoting "clean coal".
Drastically escalated the NSA spying program.
Signed the NDAA into law - making it legal to assassinate Americans w/o charge or trial.
Gave Bush absolute immunity for everything.
Pushed for a TPP Trade Pact.
Started a new war on terror - this one on ISIS.
Signed more executive memoranda than any other president in history.
Transferred more than $100 billion in arms sales to Saudi Arabia, more than any other administration in history.
Signed an agreement for 7 military bases in Colombia.
Levelled cripling sanctions on Venezulea calling them an "unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security".
Opened a military base in Chile.
Touted nuclear power , even after the disaster in Japan.
Opened up deepwater oil drilling, even after the BP disaster.
Mandated the Insider Threat Program which orders federal employees to report suspicious actions of their colleagues.
Defended body scans and pat-downs at airports.
Signed the Patriot Act extension into law.
Launched 20,000 Airstrikes in his first term.
Continued Bush's rendition program.
Said the U.S. is the "one indispensable nation" in the world.
Waged war on Libya without congressional approval.
Started a covert, drone war in Yemen.
Escalated the proxy war in Somalia.
Escalated the CIA drone war in Pakistan.
Sharply escalated the war in Afghanistan.
Repealed the Propaganda ban, making it legal to spread government propaganda via news outlets.
Assassinated 4 US citizens with drone strikes.

#36 | Posted by Sniper at 2020-01-06 01:05 PM | Reply

#36 |

de facto Obama Fanboy.

#37 | Posted by Corky at 2020-01-06 01:17 PM | Reply

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