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Friday, January 10, 2020

An unsuccessful strike on another high-ranking Iranian military commander took place in Yemen on the same night that a U.S. drone strike killed Iranian Gen. Qassem Soleimani in Baghdad, two sources told ABC News.

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Why is murica.so intent on becoming the biggest ------- among nation's? We learned well at israels knee.

#1 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2020-01-10 04:22 PM | Reply

Are we to presume this target was also planning attacks on U.S. embassies? Or do we need to wait for Mr. Pompeo to verify the justification?

#2 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-01-10 04:24 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Just obeying orders sir. What orders? Orders from the Saudis.

#3 | Posted by danni at 2020-01-10 04:25 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Donald Trump really wants a war.

#4 | Posted by Zed at 2020-01-10 04:28 PM | Reply

Isn't it interesting how seamlessly Trump transitioned from isolationist to Warhawk? Almost like he's a values free sociopath.

#5 | Posted by Zed at 2020-01-10 04:30 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

In the clip shown by Fox News this afternoon, Ingraham asked, "Did they have large-scale attacks planned for other embassies? And if those were planned, why can't we reveal that to the American people, wouldn't that help your case?"

"I can reveal that I think it would've been four embassies," he said.
www.mediaite.com

Soleimani's killing was justified as appropriate because of intelligence suggesting he was planning an imminent attack on the U.S. embassy in Baghdad, which would have happened had Trump not ordered the drone strike. By that measure, this separate target NOT being killed would indicate that we should expect an attack on one of the four embassies Trump hints at in his statement above. Was there an attack recently on a U.S. embassy since the drone strikes? Or is there evidence of an imminent attack about to take place?

Does anybody know?

#6 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-01-10 04:31 PM | Reply

"We learned well at israels knee"

After 9-11, Israel wanted to make America more like a bigger version of itself. And here we are...

#7 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2020-01-10 04:31 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Isn't it interesting how seamlessly Trump transitioned from isolationist to Warhawk? Almost like he's a values free sociopath.
#5 | POSTED BY ZED

Trump reportedly admitted impeachment played a big role in his Soleimani decision
theweek.com

#8 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-01-10 04:33 PM | Reply

FTA in #8:

Lawmakers on both sides of the aisle have questioned just what intelligence went into the decision to kill Soleimani, and especially why it had to happen when it did. The administration has so far only mentioned some sort of "imminent threat" as justification. But "after the strike," Trump gave associates another explanation: "He was under pressure to deal with Gen. Soleimani from GOP senators he views as important supporters in his coming impeachment trial in the Senate," the Journal writes.

#9 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-01-10 04:34 PM | Reply

Wag that dog

#10 | Posted by 503jc69 at 2020-01-10 04:42 PM | Reply

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"We learned well at israels knee."

Apparently we're just killing whoever we want now, openly, and then asking that person's country to engage in a war if they don't agree. It does work for Israel...

#11 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2020-01-10 04:44 PM | Reply

We may have missed him, but let's see him fix that car!!

HAHAHAHA!!

#12 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2020-01-10 04:49 PM | Reply

Don't you fools ever get sore wrists? Christ, you are such -------

#13 | Posted by wisgod at 2020-01-10 05:11 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#13

Speaking of sociopaths. You guys are a rather large tribe.

#14 | Posted by Zed at 2020-01-10 05:22 PM | Reply

Baddddddddddd military, baddddddddddd

#15 | Posted by Sniper at 2020-01-10 05:24 PM | Reply

Apparently we're just killing whoever we want now, openly, and then asking that person's country to engage in a war if they don't agree. It does work for Israel...

#11 | Posted by BruceBanner

Hell, o'bummer did it, why can't Trump do it.

#16 | Posted by Sniper at 2020-01-10 05:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Trump should give dating advice like Warren. Amazing she dances without feathers and a fire.

#17 | Posted by wisgod at 2020-01-10 05:31 PM | Reply

All we have to do now is start shooting Latinos at our southern border and we're already there.

#18 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2020-01-10 05:35 PM | Reply

Hey cheesedick, did you serve? Or did you have too few teeth even at 18?

#19 | Posted by jpw at 2020-01-10 05:43 PM | Reply

Just your girlfriend before you changed genders, Julie

#20 | Posted by wisgod at 2020-01-10 05:45 PM | Reply

why can't Trump do it.
#16 | POSTED BY SNIPER

It comes down to intent; see bold text in #9.

#21 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-01-10 06:02 PM | Reply

why can't Trump do it.
#16 | POSTED BY SNIPER

It doesn't pay to be the most hated country.

#22 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2020-01-10 06:12 PM | Reply

why can't Trump do it.
#16 | POSTED BY SNIPER

Also because he's a liar.

#23 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2020-01-10 06:16 PM | Reply

Liar. Oh, oh! Maybe he should spend the weekend in his room.

#24 | Posted by wisgod at 2020-01-10 06:21 PM | Reply

Just your girlfriend before you changed genders, Julie

#20 | Posted by wisgod

Jesus you're such a low brow -------.

Just say "yes, you're right JPW" next time.

#25 | Posted by jpw at 2020-01-10 06:26 PM | Reply

#24

Telling the truth is good enough.

#26 | Posted by Zed at 2020-01-10 06:26 PM | Reply

#24

How do you handle the liars you know personally? Grant them Power of Attorney?

#27 | Posted by Zed at 2020-01-10 06:29 PM | Reply

#24

Maybe you give them your daughters in marriage?

#28 | Posted by Zed at 2020-01-10 06:30 PM | Reply

"...give them your daughters in marriage?"
#28 | POSTED BY ZED

Patriarchal misogyny, by Zed. democrat.

#29 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2020-01-10 06:44 PM | Reply

Actually, it comes down to state actors vs. non-state actors. By killing AQ and ISIS members, President Obama was killing non-state actors/terrorists which was covered under the existing 2001 Authorization for Use of Military Force which gave POTUS congressional authorization to go after AQ and other militant groups. Combover Quisling is killing state actors, which is an illegal act of war and does not fall under ANY existing AUMA. I believe it's the reason Pence STREEEEEEEETCHED to claim that Salamani helped the 9-11 hijackers, which would have made the assassination legal under the 2001 AUMA but of course that was pure fiction as proven by the 9-11 Commission report. So what IMPOTUS is doing is a war crime. The fact that he's doing it inside the borders of other countries makes it even WORSE! Now we find that his weak excuse of "imminent" terrorist attacks at some vague time in the distant or not so distant future turns out to be nothing but fantasy. Now he claims they were going to bomb four embassies? More fantasies and conspiracy theories from the old man's syphilitic brain! So this is Drumpf prosecuting an illegal war on a whim in order to not look weak and mostly likely to distract from impeachment, nothing more. He just committed ANOTHER impeachable act, a war crime but we won't fully know about it and be able to prosecute it until after he's removed from office, because he'll classify any and all documents surrounding this mess and claim none of the people involved can testify due to fictional "absolute immunity."

#30 | Posted by _Gunslinger_ at 2020-01-10 07:05 PM | Reply

AUMF not AUMA, YEESH

#31 | Posted by _Gunslinger_ at 2020-01-10 07:05 PM | Reply

Ooo. 2 strikes.

Lest we forget what enormous hypocrisy over extra-legal drone strikes approved under AUMF looks like....

www.thebureauinvestigates.com


Obama embraced the US drone programme, overseeing more strikes in his first year than Bush carried out during his entire presidency. A total of 563 strikes, largely by drones, targeted Pakistan, Somalia and Yemen during Obama's two terms, compared to 57 strikes under Bush. Between 384 and 807 civilians were killed in those countries, according to reports logged by the Bureau.

#32 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2020-01-10 07:07 PM | Reply

#32

Obama matters not at all. Focus on how Trump bungled here, and the cynical manipulation his bungling is.

#33 | Posted by Zed at 2020-01-10 07:17 PM | Reply

Obama was just as wrong. He killed Americans too.all modern presidents are trash apparently.

#34 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2020-01-10 07:24 PM | Reply

#34 I'm not arguing right or wrong. I'm pointing out the abject hypocrisy of the left on the subject.

I'm curious how many Iranian nationals were killed in Obama drone attacks in Yemen...or do we not care about them either?

#35 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2020-01-10 08:58 PM | Reply

I'm curious how many Iranian nationals were killed in Obama drone attacks in Yemen...or do we not care about them either?

POSTED BY MUSTANG AT 2020-01-10 08:58 PM | REPLY

Whataboutism.

#36 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2020-01-10 09:15 PM | Reply

Ooo. 2 strikes.
Lest we forget what enormous hypocrisy over extra-legal drone strikes approved under AUMF looks like....
www.thebureauinvestigates.com

Obama embraced the US drone programme, overseeing more strikes in his first year than Bush carried out during his entire presidency. A total of 563 strikes, largely by drones, targeted Pakistan, Somalia and Yemen during Obama's two terms, compared to 57 strikes under Bush. Between 384 and 807 civilians were killed in those countries, according to reports logged by the Bureau.
#32 | Posted by MUSTANG

chicago.suntimes.com

This administration has not only surpassed the previous one's drone strike volume overseas, it has made the drone wars even more secretive, if that's possible.

According to a 2018 report in The Daily Beast, Obama launched 186 drone strikes in Yemen, Somalia and Pakistan during his first two years in office. In Trump's first two years, he launched 238.

As of January of this year, U.S. drone strikes fighting ISIS in Iraq and Syria have killed at least 1,257 civilians, according to the Pentagon, and a monitoring group, Airwars, estimates the number to be as great as 7,500.

Obama eventually put in place arcane requirements to issue public reports on civilian death tolls (but just in certain military theaters), to limit targets to high-level militants (again, in certain battlefields), and require interagency approval (also only for certain targets).
Trump has peeled back all of those requirements because, well, he can.

So, there is that.

#37 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-01-10 09:16 PM | Reply

www.bbc.com

President Donald Trump has revoked a policy set by his predecessor requiring US intelligence officials to publish the number of civilians killed in drone strikes outside of war zones.

"This action eliminates superfluous reporting requirements, requirements that do not improve government transparency, but rather distract our intelligence professionals from their primary mission," an official said.

"This action eliminates superfluous reporting requirements, requirements that do not improve government transparency, but rather distract our intelligence professionals from their primary mission," an official said.

So, like Immigrants in cages, republican scum will state Obama did it first while make it incredibly MORE vile.

#38 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-01-10 09:19 PM | Reply

original.antiwar.com

An unconfirmed number of Afghan civilians " reportedly more than 60 " were killed along with the regional leader of a splinter Taliban faction and dozens of militants in a US drone attack in Herat province on Wednesday.

#39 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-01-10 09:23 PM | Reply

Our country should be having a debate on this, but we won't. We should be debating the effectiveness and morality of our actions. We should be discussing how these decisions are made, how intelligence is used, how targets are selected, how the use of force is legally justified. We should be discussing long term and short term goals in this regard.

But we won't. Our country is simply too dysfunctional.

Instead, we will continue with the same violent tactics, getting nowhere and achieving nothing.

#40 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-01-10 09:26 PM | Reply

I'm pointing out the abject hypocrisy of the left on the subject.
#35 | POSTED BY MUSTANG

While simultaneously ignoring all those on the left that chastised B. Hussein for those drone strikes.

Further, you lazily do not identify who on the left here in the DR you're referring to as hypocrites. Hence, all you're doing is outing the random leftists that infect your head as hypocrites. What in the hell is the point of that?

#41 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-01-10 09:51 PM | Reply

So, there is that.
#37 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS

Fccking hypocrite leftists. /s

#42 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-01-10 09:53 PM | Reply

America should respect the international court And the UN. Bush Cheney should both be in prison.Obama possibly as well for droning An american citizen without due process. We have become like an elective monarchy and apparently many Americans are just fine with that. I Am not.

#43 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2020-01-11 12:02 AM | Reply

#41 I acknowledge there are many on both sides who were against the drone strikes from the beginning. Truthhurts and I swapped some posts on the topic a couple of days ago. Citing specific poster hypocrisy would requure a level of --------- I do not possess and is frankly not necessary. Any of us long-timers know I'm speaking the truth, even if I'm speaking in generalities.

#44 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2020-01-11 08:46 AM | Reply

What gives him the right? We were not at war at the time.

The hubris!

#45 | Posted by fresno500 at 2020-01-11 02:43 PM | Reply

#9 | POSTED BY RSTYBEACH11 AT 2020-01-10 04:34 PM | FLAG: When obama targeted and assassinated a US citizen did you 'speak up?

"IN 2010, PRESIDENT Obama directed the CIA to assassinate an American citizen in Yemen, Anwar al-Awlaki, despite the fact that he had never been charged with (let alone convicted of) any crime, and the agency successfully carried out that order a year later with a September 2011 drone strike. While that assassination created widespread debate " the once-again-beloved ACLU sued Obama to restrain him from the assassination on the ground of due process and then, when that suit was dismissed, sued Obama again after the killing was carried out " another drone killing carried out shortly thereafter was perhaps even more significant yet generated relatively little attention."
theintercept.com

#46 | Posted by MSgt at 2020-01-12 11:40 AM | Reply

Of course Obama was criminally wrong for killing an American citizen without due process. The whole drone killing program is a war CRIME. Dubya Cheney rumsfeld as well as Obama should all have to be tried in the hague. We have no accountability for our leaders especially when they commit WAR crimes.We don't respect the international court because we are criminal outlaws who kill and sanction other societies with total impunity. One day the mask will slip and We will be chastened with anonymous death from the skies here in North America.unable to stop it and we will know what we have sown abroad.

#47 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2020-01-12 04:30 PM | Reply

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