Drudge Retort: The Other Side of the News
Sunday, January 12, 2020

Gov. Greg Abbott announced on Friday that his state will not accept new refugees this year, making Texas the first state to reject resettlements under a new rule from President Trump. Trump signed an executive order in September, saying that states and municipalities must give written consent before refugees can be resettled.

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Democrats love refugees, as long as they are settled in red states.

#1 | Posted by nullifidian at 2020-01-11 08:06 PM | Reply

Lady Liberty weeps.

#2 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2020-01-11 08:10 PM | Reply

--Lady Liberty weeps.

Are you willing to put yourself on a registry of households that will take in a refugee or a refugee family?

#3 | Posted by nullifidian at 2020-01-11 08:21 PM | Reply

#3

Refugees have been no problem in my part of Texas. Hard-working and grateful: an asset to the community.

Racists never care.

#4 | Posted by Zed at 2020-01-11 08:32 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Lady Liberty weeps.

#2 | POSTED BY TFDNIHILIST "

But California doesn't have to weep. Refugees are so good for this country, California can take in what Texas refuses. California wins and Texas loses. Good thing for a Democrat like you, right?

#5 | Posted by goatman at 2020-01-11 08:41 PM | Reply

They are Congolese, Central Americans, and Nepalis. There's nothing about them to regret or fear.

#6 | Posted by Zed at 2020-01-11 08:41 PM | Reply

Here you go, tfdnihilist

www.roomforrefugees.com

Let us know about this refugee family you are taking in. Or are you NIMBY?

#7 | Posted by goatman at 2020-01-11 08:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Refugees have been no problem in my part of Texas. Hard-working and grateful: an asset to the community.

So no ... you don't want them in your house?

Do you sponsor them?

All this talk and calling people racist, surely you can back up your words with action.

Commit to it, or forever be a racist no different from GregAbbott.

Its so easy for you to point your finger in outrage, but you yourself don't seem to live up to your own standards.

#8 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2020-01-11 08:46 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 2

#3

You're an ignorant man. Sucks to be you.

#9 | Posted by Zed at 2020-01-11 08:56 PM | Reply

--www.roomforrefugees.com

There's your big chance, Saint Zed. You are a Christian, right?

#10 | Posted by nullifidian at 2020-01-11 08:56 PM | Reply

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The Nepalis especially are famous for working as hard as it takes to be home owners, with all that implies.

#11 | Posted by Zed at 2020-01-11 08:57 PM | Reply

It's tragic to see you people making up crap about people who are succeeding.

#12 | Posted by Zed at 2020-01-11 08:59 PM | Reply

"Racists never care.

POSTED BY ZED "

What does racism has to do with refugees, zed?

"It's tragic to see you people making up crap about people who are succeeding.

POSTED BY ZED "

Who is making up stuff, zed? Have you been nipping at the nutmeg again?

#13 | Posted by goatman at 2020-01-11 09:02 PM | Reply

#13

I have little hope the facts on the ground will change some people minds. That's where the racism comes in.

#14 | Posted by Zed at 2020-01-11 09:07 PM | Reply

One of my doctors is an Indian and a Hindu. Great guy. Published author. Great book.

#15 | Posted by Zed at 2020-01-11 09:09 PM | Reply

"I have little hope the facts on the ground will change some people minds. That's where the racism comes in.

#14 | POSTED BY ZED "

Your hopes are irrelevant and a horrible deflection. I'll ask again: What does racism have to do with refugees? I don't want them here even if they are white like me. Does that mean I hate white people since I don't want white refugees?

Please try to answer intelligently and without deflection as difficult as that is for you to do.

Thanks.

#16 | Posted by goatman at 2020-01-11 09:14 PM | Reply

--The Nepalis especially are famous for working as hard as it takes to be home owners, with all that implies.

So you should have no problem giving them shelter, you fraud.

#17 | Posted by nullifidian at 2020-01-11 09:18 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

You don't want them here. Abbott has your vote, as was intended.

#18 | Posted by Zed at 2020-01-11 09:18 PM | Reply

"One of my doctors is an Indian and a Hindu. Great guy. Published author. Great book.

#15 | POSTED BY ZED "

And one of mine is a gay black Muslim Korean vegetarian who drives a Prius who writes chamber music for orphaned albinos and has a rescue penguin for a pet.

So?

#19 | Posted by goatman at 2020-01-11 09:23 PM | Reply

The Nepalis especially are famous for .....

What a racist comment ... are you saying other people from different races don't like "Working as hard as it takes" ....

#20 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2020-01-11 09:24 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Texas is in process of deciding who she really is. Abbott seems to think the future here is Trump. I think that's a poor guess

#21 | Posted by Zed at 2020-01-11 09:25 PM | Reply

"You don't want them here. Abbott has your vote, as was intended.

#18 | POSTED BY ZED "

He does? Is pretending to be clairvoyant the best you can do, zed? LOL

Anyway, tell us about the refugee family you are hosting, zed. Surely you're not a NIMBY hypocrite, are you?

#22 | Posted by goatman at 2020-01-11 09:27 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Are you willing to put yourself on a registry of households that will take in a refugee or a refugee family?

Why would anyone need to take in these refugees and immigrants?

Despite being from a different country. They're very resilient and resourceful. The majority of them are hard working and employed.

I understand there are a lot of angry, hateful, ignorant people who want to blame all their problems on someone or something else. Immigrants and refugees are the easiest to blame for your own life failings. They're faceless poor people, it's safe to attack them without repercussion.

So. Sure Xenophobian. Carry on. Your life sucks. Because of someone else. It's their fault. Not your own shht life choices.

These people who have left their lives, escaped what ever it was and came to America for a better life. Blame them. Without them. I'm sure your life would be magnificent.

Keep telling yourself that.

#23 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-01-11 09:27 PM | Reply

Refugees are so good for this country,
#5 | POSTED BY GOATMAN

They're not?

Can you explain your point of view?

#24 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-01-11 09:29 PM | Reply

"Texas is in process of deciding who she really is."

Texas is in the progress of decideing who who is, zed? You are all over the place here. Step. Away. From. The. Nutmeg.

#25 | Posted by goatman at 2020-01-11 09:29 PM | Reply

"They're not?
Can you explain your point of view?

#24 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK "

What are you supposing my point of view is and on what do you base it?

#26 | Posted by goatman at 2020-01-11 09:30 PM | Reply

forever be a racist no different from myself.
#8 | POSTED BY MATTRESS

You're the biggest fkkking Xenophobe on the DR.

#27 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-01-11 09:31 PM | Reply

"Why would anyone need to take in these refugees and immigrants?"

Because they need a place to stay. Read the link I provided upthread and let us know when you are adopting a refugee family, clownshack. Or are a NIMBY hypocrite like zed?

#28 | Posted by goatman at 2020-01-11 09:33 PM | Reply

#15

If Biden is the nominee Texas is in play.

There are a lot of racists here, but it's far from all of us.

#29 | Posted by Zed at 2020-01-11 09:33 PM | Reply

"You're the biggest fkkking Xenophobe on the DR.

#27 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK"

Says the guy who won't take in a refugee family.

Hypocrites. Gotta love 'em. They provide a lot of laughs.

#30 | Posted by goatman at 2020-01-11 09:34 PM | Reply

"If Biden is the nominee Texas is in play.

#29 | POSTED BY ZED "

Wrong thread, zed. Wrong thread.

Focus

#31 | Posted by goatman at 2020-01-11 09:36 PM | Reply

What are you supposing my point of view is and on what do you base it?

Basing it on the post I was responding to. Seems like you believe refugees aren't good for America.

I may be wrong.

Which was why I asked for you to explain your point of view.

#32 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-01-11 09:37 PM | Reply

"Your life sucks.

#23 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK "

It doesn't suck being a hypocrite like you? Or are you hosting a refugee family?

#33 | Posted by goatman at 2020-01-11 09:39 PM | Reply

Texas is deciding who she is. If it goes Blue or even near this year it will be a massive repudiation of Trump and yes, racism.

#34 | Posted by Zed at 2020-01-11 09:41 PM | Reply

"Which was why I asked for you to explain your point of view.
#32 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK "

My point of view is that people who think refugees are great should put their money where their mouths are and adopt an immigrant family. That would show their sincerity and take a strain off of the the US government.

#35 | Posted by goatman at 2020-01-11 09:41 PM | Reply

"Texas is deciding who she is. If it goes Blue or even near this year it will be a massive repudiation of Trump and yes, racism.

#34 | POSTED BY ZED "

That's not what this thread is about, zed. Focus.

#36 | Posted by goatman at 2020-01-11 09:42 PM | Reply

Says the guy who won't take in a refugee family.
Hypocrites. Gotta love 'em. They provide a lot of laughs.
#30 | POSTED BY GOATMAN

What a bunch of fallacious reasoning, Goat.

Are you actually here for any reason other than to troll.

I know that's the only reason Nulli and the Mattress show up.

#37 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-01-11 09:44 PM | Reply

I am focused. Just in a way that pisses you off.

#38 | Posted by Zed at 2020-01-11 09:45 PM | Reply

I am focused.

#38 | POSTED BY ZED "

Actually, you are right. You are focused on Texas going blue and on Trump, neither of which have anything to do with this thread.

Let me clarify: Focus on the top of the thread, zed. And step away from the nutmeg you were so worried about your sons getting into. That could help.

#39 | Posted by goatman at 2020-01-11 09:50 PM | Reply

It doesn't suck being a hypocrite like you? Or are you hosting a refugee family?
#33 | POSTED BY GOATMAN

I'm a hypocrite now?

Because I don't believe in banning or blocking refugees and immigrants from coming to America?

Because your litmus test says I need to adopt them in order to prove something to you?

You think too highly of your own option Goat.

#40 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-01-11 09:50 PM | Reply

"I'm a hypocrite now?

Because I don't believe in banning or blocking refugees and immigrants from coming to America?"

???

No. Because you think others should take care of them but not yourself. You must be joking if you you claim to not have gotten that.

"You think too highly of your own option Goat."

Perhaps. But I definitely think very little of yours if you are not willing to help with the refugee crisis by sponsoring at least one of them, yet demand others do.

#41 | Posted by goatman at 2020-01-11 09:53 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

It doesn't suck being a hypocrite like you? Or are you hosting a refugee family?
#33 | POSTED BY GOATMAN
I'm a hypocrite now?
Because I don't believe in banning or blocking refugees and immigrants from coming to America?
Because your litmus test says I need to adopt them in order to prove something to you?
You think too highly of your own option Goat.

POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK AT 2020-01-11 09:50 PM | REPLY

Don't feed the troll. He's a useless twit.

#42 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2020-01-11 09:55 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Just as the folks who say that the right wingers who are against abortion should adopt unwanted children, people who are for refugees need to adopt them. Or is there a double standard at play?

#43 | Posted by goatman at 2020-01-11 09:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

No one sponsors refugees.

#44 | Posted by Zed at 2020-01-11 09:56 PM | Reply

Because you think others should take care of them but not yourself.

I'm pretty sure if you scroll up I said they are more than able to take care of themselves. How about not assigning me strawmen.

Just as the folks who say that the right wingers who are against abortion should adopt unwanted children

Never read anyone suggest this. You're now making shht up.

Congratulations.

#45 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-01-11 09:59 PM | Reply

"Don't feed the troll. He's a useless twit.

#42 | POSTED BY LAURAMOHR "

Laura calling someone a twit...

LOL

And thanks for another zinger of a retort, Laura. So profound and full of intellect.

#46 | Posted by goatman at 2020-01-11 09:59 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Never read anyone suggest this. You're now making shht up.
Congratulations.

#45 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK "

So if you never saw anything another person claims to have seen, it has to be made up?

Um, OK Mr. Logical Fallacy.

*rolls eyes*

#47 | Posted by goatman at 2020-01-11 10:01 PM | Reply

No one sponsors refugees. Just asked the expert. It doesn't work that way.

#48 | Posted by Zed at 2020-01-11 10:02 PM | Reply

"No one sponsors refugees.

#44 | POSTED BY ZED "

More of you hypocrites out there than I thought, then.

mashable.com

#49 | Posted by goatman at 2020-01-11 10:03 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

So if you never saw anything another person claims to have seen, it has to be made up?

No. I'm 100% sure you're lying.

It's never been a pro choice argument that pro lifers should adopt unaborted babies. Ever.

#50 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-01-11 10:07 PM | Reply

You're talking about a resistance tactic to Trump.

Funny. Star Trek circa 1967 is now talking abut Trump.

#51 | Posted by Zed at 2020-01-11 10:08 PM | Reply

"No. I'm 100% sure you're lying."

I'll keep that in mind next time I hear you say you are 100% sure of something. Because I know I have heard that argument.

"It's never been a pro choice argument that pro lifers should adopt unaborted babies. Ever.

#50 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK"

Unless you have heard everything there is to hear, you cannot make that statement with certainty. To do so is yet another logical fallacy.

Let's stick to facts if that's OK with you. I have heard that argument posited many times. Call me a liar if you wish, but unless you can prove I'm lying, it is strictly a fallacious opinion on your part. Deal with it.

In the meantime, here's one of many websites that support me. I'll wait to see you counter with one to support your logical fallacy.

www.letthemlive.org

#52 | Posted by goatman at 2020-01-11 10:31 PM | Reply

"Funny. Star Trek circa 1967 is now talking abut Trump.

#51 | POSTED BY ZED AT 2020-01-11 10:08 PM "

1967 is in the past, zed.

#53 | Posted by goatman at 2020-01-11 10:33 PM | Reply

Let's stick to facts if that's OK with you.

Is it even possible for you to stick to facts?

How about answering the first question I asked you which you haven't answered yet.

Refugees are so good for this country,
#5 | POSTED BY GOATMAN

They're not?
Can you explain your point of view?
#24 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK

#54 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-01-11 11:41 PM | Reply

Phoney libs support and encourage lawbreakers...

#55 | Posted by Greatamerican at 2020-01-12 12:33 AM | Reply

The number of anchor babies born to ILLEGAL immigrants surpassed American births in nearly all 50 states last year. Analysis by the Center for Immigration Studies shows nearly 400,000 so-called anchor babies' were born in the U.S. in 2019.

These children immediately gain American citizenship, which then extends financial, legal and social benefits to their ILLEGAL alien parents.

Thanks, phoney libs.

#56 | Posted by Greatamerican at 2020-01-12 12:43 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"#54 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK "

Nothing shows desperation and clutching at straws (not to mention dishonesty) as taking a person's quote out of context.

#57 | Posted by goatman at 2020-01-12 12:46 AM | Reply

"How about answering the first question I asked you which you haven't answered yet.

#54 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK "

Because your question is based on a quote taken out of context. Duh.

What's wrong with being honest? Why go the route of a loser? You only debase yourself when you take stuff out of context then demand it be justified or answered.

#58 | Posted by goatman at 2020-01-12 12:49 AM | Reply

#58 | POSTED BY GOATMAN

So you can't answer a simple question. Got it.

I'll go back to ignoring you.

#59 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-01-12 01:19 AM | Reply

"So you can't answer a simple question. Got it.

#59 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK "

???

I explained I didn't answer because it was based on a quote taken out of context.

Reading is fundamental, CS. So is honesty. And taking quotes out of context is dishonest.

If you wish to base your question on the entire quote, I'll be glad to answer.

#60 | Posted by goatman at 2020-01-12 01:26 AM | Reply

I pay taxes, I want that tax money to bring in and help refugees. I am not a hypocrite.

#61 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2020-01-12 04:32 AM | Reply

After everything these marginalized pocs have been through, do we really want to send them straight into nazi death camps texas, which is used to be full of horrible huwhite supremacists? They would probably be much more comfortable and would more easily adjust to a diverse metropolitan area such as san francisco or portland, OR, where their cultural impetus to spread garbage is not strongly discouraged.

#62 | Posted by berserkone at 2020-01-12 05:17 AM | Reply

And I was married to a refugee from Laos for 13 years. I helped her plenty.

#63 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2020-01-12 05:17 AM | Reply

Ahh, life as an economic refugee has gotten a lot better recently with the resurgence of this guilty white liberal fifth column. They've been very vociferous and not at all ambiguous about their preferred policies w/r/t anyone who wants to cross the border and claim bennies. Why are they hollering so loudly when asked to "tolerate" the diversity which they tout so highly for the beneficience of others?

#64 | Posted by berserkone at 2020-01-12 05:23 AM | Reply

not Texas, but did you know that there was a record number of Mexafricans (or would it be Afrixans?) at the southern border recently.
www.sandiegouniontribune.com
weird how so many africans are making it to mexico, specifically, with the intention of immigrating. I"m glad I'm a socially-acceptable Coincidence Theorist, and can clearly see that this is all just an example of a series of highly unlikely but not at all coordinated events to bring people into the USA. Africa is just, like, right next door to Mexico anyway.

#65 | Posted by berserkone at 2020-01-12 05:30 AM | Reply

Anyone who knows the history of Texas knows why this is a good idea.
Texas was a part of Mexico until they started letting white refugees from the USA settle there (who were traitors, BTW, as they had to renounce their US citizenship to do so). Then the refugees stole Texas from them. I guess Abbott thinks new refugees will be as dishonest and underhanded as the white ones of the past were.

#66 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2020-01-12 06:28 AM | Reply

"Anyone who knows the history of Texas knows why this is a good idea.
Texas was a part of Mexico until they started letting white refugees from the USA settle there (who were traitors, BTW, as they had to renounce their US citizenship to do so).

#66 | POSTED BY TFDNIHILIST "

I know Texas history quite well. I live in the heart of where most of it happened, San Antonio. I will not allow you to rewrite it.

The people who settled Texas were not refugees. They were homesteaders who were promised. They were British, German, and French colonists. The Apache and Comanche were already there as well as a large number of Mexican nationals who opposed Santa Ana's rule. They were not all white as you claim. The area was not well populated, so the newly formed Mexico invited Americans to live there. Being invited, they were not refugees as you claimed. Nor did they did not have to renounce their citizenship as you claimed.

As with the American Revolution, power was concentrated in one area (current day Mexico) and the people on the fringes were treated unfairly and the imposition of tariffs pissed them off. Hence the revolution.

Traitors? Nope. The Indians had been there for centuries. The German, British, and French were settlers and who never renounced the citizenship of their homelands. If there were any traitors, it was the Americans who were part of a group who denounced the British Crown a few decades earlier in the American Revolution and signed a famous document doing so -- the Declaration of Independence. (you may have heard of it) I guess if those guys were traitors of the British crown, the Texians (they weren't Texans) were traitors to the iron fisted rule of Mexico.

Though your revisionist version of Texas history is amusing, it is far from accurate. Read more of it here if you have any desire to know the truth.

www.austincc.edu

#67 | Posted by goatman at 2020-01-12 07:31 AM | Reply

"Then the refugees stole Texas from them. I guess Abbott thinks new refugees will be as dishonest and underhanded as the white ones of the past were.

#66 | POSTED BY TFDNIHILIST "

To further correct your version of history:

As noted there were no refugees. The settlers on the Texas side of the revolution (the ones you erroneously call 'refugees') did not steal Texas from Mexico. They won it through the victory of war as pretty much every square mile of land on this planet was acquired and re-acquired throughout human history, along with conquest.

Though I do not speak for Greg Abbott, I think it is highly unlikely that he feels refugees would steal Texas. Besides, that would be an issue of the American government, not the state of Texas.

You certainly have some odd notions -- not only about history but territorial responsibilities and what goes through a person's mind.

#68 | Posted by goatman at 2020-01-12 07:43 AM | Reply

did not steal Texas from Mexico. They won it through the victory of war

Kind of how a mugger wins someones wallet through the victory of war.

It was violently taken. War just means a government backs the muggers

#69 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2020-01-12 08:24 AM | Reply

Democrats love refugees, as long as they are settled in red states.

In Texas they've been settling in blue cities populated by Democrats, but I wouldn't expect a retarded troll to understand that.

#70 | Posted by JOE at 2020-01-12 08:30 AM | Reply

1967 is in the past, zed.

#53 | Posted by goatman at 2020-01-11 1

No more than is 1933, GOATMAN.

#71 | Posted by Zed at 2020-01-12 08:31 AM | Reply

They should be building Trumps wall on the northern border of Texas and keep them islolated... we don't need them in the union and they don't want to be here.

#72 | Posted by 503jc69 at 2020-01-12 08:34 AM | Reply

As always slavery is left out of the history of Texas. It was illegal in Mexico at the time and folks thought it was their right. Definitely played a part.

#73 | Posted by bruceaz at 2020-01-12 08:40 AM | Reply

"No one sponsors refugees."

If they are not sponsored or financially well off (which most refugees probably aren't), then they're effectively sponsored by the taxpayers, at least in the short term. Having the federal government relocate large groups people into (or out of) individual states has a much greater impact than people moving freely between states.

Would you be okay with the federal government relocating homeless people from one state to another? What if Trump started a program to relocate people from the deepest red states into swing states?

#74 | Posted by sentinel at 2020-01-12 12:03 PM | Reply

"Texas was a part of Mexico until they started letting white refugees from the USA settle there (who were traitors, BTW, as they had to renounce their US citizenship to do so). Then the refugees stole Texas from them."

That's not quite accurate. Many Mexicans in the state of Tejas y Coahuila would have rebelled against President Santa Anna's power grab and attempt to centralize all power in the Mexican federal government even if the white settlers and refugees hadn't been there.

#75 | Posted by sentinel at 2020-01-12 12:43 PM | Reply

Refugee Resettlement is Costly

cis.org

Blue State only pay these cost through outrageous tax increases cause Blue State residents to migrate to Red States like Texas putting a strain on both infrastructure and water usage.

Texas has said no because it has seen it's future in red states like California and New York... We Texans take a dim view of people moving in from California and pooping on our streets... pooping in front of the Alamo pretty much crossed the line... ( hasn't happened yet but only a matter of time..." soo which famous music star pissed on a wall in the Alamo?? )

#76 | Posted by Pegasus at 2020-01-12 12:44 PM | Reply

"Are you willing to put yourself on a registry of households that will take in a refugee or a refugee family?"

A lot of dog whistles here.

But also a good argument for allowing families to sponsor their relatives and be responsible for them.

#77 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2020-01-12 12:51 PM | Reply

I have lived in Portland, Seattle and the San Fran bay area all my life. . Never seen a ---- on the streets... if its happening it ain't an epidemic.

#78 | Posted by 503jc69 at 2020-01-12 01:06 PM | Reply

God Bless Texas.

The land with a heart two sizes two small.

There are good people in Texas. I have seen some here. Too bad they have lost their soul to the devilish leadership they have right now. But the people get the government they want Ed and deserve.

Enjoy your droughts, wildfires, earthquakes and hurricanes this year.

As your God Blesses Texas.

#79 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-01-12 02:45 PM | Reply

Please.

Do not ask Me who Ed is.

I have no idea.

#80 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-01-12 02:46 PM | Reply

A genuine refugee family would be welcome to stay in my house with me and my wife. We've got a couple of extra bedrooms. If they are honest, hard working people looking to escape persecution, we will be happy to help them on the next step of their journey. Country of origin is not an issue.

#81 | Posted by moder8 at 2020-01-12 02:54 PM | Reply

If they are honest, hard working people looking to escape persecution, we will be happy to help them on the next step of their journey. Country of origin is not an issue.

#81 | POSTED BY MODER8 AT 2020-01-12 02:54 PM | FLAG: ... and just how are you going to ascertain in advance that they are honest, and hard working. Once they are ensconced in your abode you may find it hard to evict them should they turn out to be less than honest and maybe do not want to work at all.

#82 | Posted by MSgt at 2020-01-12 03:32 PM | Reply

" 'did not steal Texas from Mexico. They won it through the victory of war'

Kind of how a mugger wins someones wallet through the victory of war.
It was violently taken. War just means a government backs the muggers

#69 | POSTED BY HATTER5183 "

It's more like the mugger getting the ---- kicked out of him by his victim.

Mexico was the agressor, (see Alamo, Goliad massacre), and fired the first shots of the war in the battle of Gonzales, but Texas wound up winning the war, much as Japan was the aggressor in WW2, but the US won the war. That's pretty much the story of how countries and empires are formed since the dawn of civilization, war victory.

Texas actually won independence quite quickly in the end in spite of their losses. The Texians defeated Santa Ana in the an 18 minute battle, the battle of San Jacinto.

#83 | Posted by goatman at 2020-01-12 03:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

MSGT: If fear is what guides you, then you will never lift a finger for your fellow man. Kindness and charity by definition are an act of faith. Either you believe in God and His message of love, or you don't.

#84 | Posted by moder8 at 2020-01-12 03:36 PM | Reply

and just how are you going to ascertain in advance that they are honest, and hard working.

#82 | Posted by MSgt at 2020-01-12 03:32 PM | Reply

The best way to predict the future is to look at what's happening now, and in the past.

These people haven't been an issue where I live. No issue at all. That's proof of something.

You're a frightened man. Trump has your vote.

#85 | Posted by Zed at 2020-01-12 04:00 PM | Reply

" Abbott argued that the state and its non-profit organizations should instead focus on "those who are already here, including refugees, migrants, and the homeless " indeed, all Texans." "

How come Texas isn't already doing this?

#86 | Posted by SunTzuMeow at 2020-01-12 04:26 PM | Reply

How come Texas isn't already doing this?

#86 | Posted by SunTzuMeow

What makes you think a Republican Texas will ever want to do this?

#87 | Posted by Zed at 2020-01-12 04:38 PM | Reply

"God Bless Texas.

The land with a heart two sizes two small.

Enjoy your droughts, wildfires, earthquakes and hurricanes this year.

#79 | POSTED BY DONNERBOY"

California ranks last on volunteering services of the 50 states. Texas ranks exactly halfway at 25. (2019 statistics) So how many more sizes too small is California's heart? Three? Four? Maybe if you and Moderhate volunteered your homes to refugees y'all could bump your state up from last place.

wallethub.com

Enjoy your earthquakes, wildfires, droughts, tent cities, ---- in the streets, high cost of living, and outlandish taxes this year.

#88 | Posted by goatman at 2020-01-12 04:39 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"How come Texas isn't already doing this?

#86 | POSTED BY SUNTZUMEOW "

Who said they aren't?

#89 | Posted by goatman at 2020-01-12 04:40 PM | Reply

Who said they aren't?

#89 | Posted by goatman at

Let's say that it's likely the governor is exaggerating motives and intent.

#90 | Posted by Zed at 2020-01-12 04:41 PM | Reply

Abbott is hitching his political wagon to Trumpism. There's little more to it.

#91 | Posted by Zed at 2020-01-12 04:43 PM | Reply

"Abbott is hitching his political wagon to Trumpism.

#91 | POSTED BY ZED "

Yes, zed. You keep repeating this. We get it.

#92 | Posted by goatman at 2020-01-12 04:50 PM | Reply

MSGT: If fear is what guides you, then you will never lift a finger for your fellow man. Kindness and charity by definition are an act of faith. Either you believe in God and His message of love, or you don't.

#84 | Posted by moder8

They don't.

Righties only claim to to soothe their conscience.

Because even their unconscious mind knows their dicks.

#93 | Posted by jpw at 2020-01-12 05:09 PM | Reply

Yes, zed. You keep repeating this. We get it.

#92 | Posted by goatman

The idea you learned something is a bit startling.

#94 | Posted by Zed at 2020-01-12 05:27 PM | Reply

"The idea you learned something is a bit startling.

#94 | POSTED BY ZED "

To you it would be, zed.

#95 | Posted by goatman at 2020-01-12 05:36 PM | Reply

To you it would be, zed.

#95 | Posted by goatman at 20

I'm still recovering from the shock.

#96 | Posted by Zed at 2020-01-12 05:38 PM | Reply

When refugees become citizens and buy homes that's good for any city they're in. They pay income taxes and property taxes into the indefinite future. They pay back anything they have "taken" and more.

#97 | Posted by Zed at 2020-01-12 05:41 PM | Reply

"I'm still recovering from the shock.

#96 | POSTED BY ZED "

Good for you, zed. Most of us aren't so feeble minded that we allow small ---- like that put us into shock. Are you sure it's not a nutmeg hangover from the holiday pumpkin pie?

#98 | Posted by goatman at 2020-01-12 05:49 PM | Reply

"California ranks last on volunteering services of the 50 states. Texas ranks exactly halfway at 25. (2019 statistics)"

I like how you cherry-picked that from an aggregate list which has Texas at 40 and California at 43. wallethub.com
Why not just crow over that?

#99 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-01-12 07:05 PM | Reply

Who said they aren't?

#89 | Posted by goatman at 2020-01-12 04:40 PM | Reply

"state and its non-profit organizations should instead focus on"

Should: used in auxiliary function to express what is probable or expected

Instead: as an alternative to something expressed or implied

Not "should continue to"

So, it seems, Abbot said such.

#100 | Posted by SunTzuMeow at 2020-01-12 07:14 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"So, it seems, Abbot said such.

#100 | POSTED BY SUNTZUMEOW "

And when did you start hanging on to his every word?

#101 | Posted by goatman at 2020-01-12 08:04 PM | Reply

"California at 43. wallethub.com
Why not just crow over that?

#99 | POSTED BY SNOOFY :

Because those numbers are actual dollars spent and we were speaking of volunteerism and "big heartedness".

Follow the thread, snoofy and don't take posts out of context.

But still, considering the two, (volunteerism and cash contributions) California is still less generous.

#102 | Posted by goatman at 2020-01-12 08:06 PM | Reply

"Instead: as an alternative to something expressed or implied
Not "should continue to"
So, it seems, Abbot said such.

#100 | POSTED BY SUNTZUMEOW "

Alternative English.

I think drivers should focus on the road. That doesn't mean they don't. I think students should focus on grades. That doesn't mean they don't.

#103 | Posted by goatman at 2020-01-12 08:09 PM | Reply

""California at 43. wallethub.com
Why not just crow over that?
#99 | POSTED BY SNOOFY :"

There are Californians here crying crocodile tears over Texas' decision for refugees when it has been proven Texans are more generous than Californians as an aggregate and in volunteerism.

Why not address that rather than deflect?

#104 | Posted by goatman at 2020-01-12 08:18 PM | Reply

"Because those numbers are actual dollars spent"

No, that number is the "Total Score" for "Most Charitable States in America".

#105 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-01-12 09:55 PM | Reply

:"it has been proven Texans are more generous than Californians as an aggregate and in volunteerism."

Setting aside the part where it hasn't been proven, and the part where even it it had somehow been proven it wouldn't matter,
In aggregate means they could be very uncharitable and downright cruel to refugees, and simply make it up somewhere else.

#106 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-01-12 09:58 PM | Reply

"In aggregate means they could be very uncharitable and downright cruel to refugees, and simply make it up somewhere else.

#106 | POSTED BY SNOOFY "

It could mean that. Burden of proof is on you. I proved that Californians are last of the 50 states when it comes to volunteerism in spite of your your denial, which is pretty lame given that I provided a link that proves the contrary.

I'll not play your games, snoofy. Either prove me wrong or drop it.

#107 | Posted by goatman at 2020-01-12 10:06 PM | Reply

"It could mean that. Burden of proof is on you."

No, it isn't, because I'm not trying to prove anything.

#108 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-01-12 10:10 PM | Reply

"No, it isn't, because I'm not trying to prove anything.

#108 | POSTED BY SNOOFY "

Good. Because you haven't and I have. It also means your speculation is moot.

#109 | Posted by goatman at 2020-01-12 10:15 PM | Reply

"I proved that Californians are last of the 50 states when it comes to volunteerism "

No, because that column is "Volunteerism and Service Rank" and in fact California's rank on Volunteerism is 46. Same place as Texas on "Fewest Charities Per Capita," 46.

If you scroll down midway through the article, both CA and TX are in the Red category of "Richest & Least Charitable."

Your source information doesn't paint the same picture you are; this in in addition to not understanding what it would even mean if your picture were accurate.

#110 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-01-12 10:16 PM | Reply

Nice try, snoofy, but we can all read the table. How desperate must one be to deny the obvious as you are doing?

Later, snoofy.

#111 | Posted by goatman at 2020-01-12 10:18 PM | Reply

#108

You prove your idiocy EVERY SINGLE DAY!

You're lucky breathing is an involuntary function.

#112 | Posted by willowby at 2020-01-12 10:21 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Nice try, snoofy, but we can all read the table"

Some of us can read the whole article, and see it isn't flattering to TX or CA.
Some of us can also see it has nothing to do with Gov. Abbott's political choices, which are only unflattering to TX.

#113 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-01-12 10:21 PM | Reply

"You're lucky breathing is an involuntary function."

You're lucky you'll never be held to account for your sins.

#114 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-01-12 10:25 PM | Reply

"Democrats love refugees, as long as they are settled in red states."

That's not how the Census works...

#115 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-01-12 10:37 PM | Reply

"That's not how the Census works...

#115 | POSTED BY SNOOFY "

Nor is it how puffins are fed at the zoo.

#116 | Posted by goatman at 2020-01-12 10:39 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"You're lucky you'll never be held to account for your sins."

You keep proving my point. Amazing.

#117 | Posted by willowby at 2020-01-12 10:50 PM | Reply

You're not a cop?

#118 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-01-12 10:50 PM | Reply

Or you never did nobody dirty, is that it?
I thought you knew how to ball.

#119 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-01-12 11:00 PM | Reply

"You're not a cop?"

They didn't have any openings for electrical engineers, so I looked elsewhere.

#120 | Posted by willowby at 2020-01-12 11:13 PM | Reply

"I thought you knew how to ball."

No, I'm a hockey fan.

#121 | Posted by willowby at 2020-01-12 11:14 PM | Reply

Typical Republicans. They claim to be Christians yet when stuff like this comes up they reject His teachings. Rotten little bastard.

#122 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2020-01-12 11:48 PM | Reply

And when did you start hanging on to his every word?

#101 | Posted by goatman at 2020-01-12 08:04 PM | Reply

A man is as only good as his word.

#123 | Posted by SunTzuMeow at 2020-01-13 12:10 AM | Reply

"The refugees seeking haven in America were poor and disease-ridden. They threatened to take jobs away from Americans and strain welfare budgets. They practiced an alien religion and pledged allegiance to a foreign leader. They were bringing with them crime. They were accused of being rapists. And, worst of all, these undesirables were Irish.
Fleeing a shipwreck of an island, nearly 2 million refugees from Ireland crossed the Atlantic to the United States in the dismal wake of the Great Hunger. Beginning in 1845, the fortunes of the Irish began to sag along with the withering leaves of the country's potato plants. Beneath the auld sod, festering potatoes bled a putrid red-brown mucus as a virulent pathogen scorched Ireland's staple crop and rendered it inedible."

www.history.com

In 150 years xenophobes are still exactly the same, they never change. My ancestors felt their hatred but succeeded in spite of it. Most immigrants today are doing the same thing now.

#124 | Posted by danni at 2020-01-13 10:17 AM | Reply

Are you willing to put yourself on a registry of households that will take in a refugee or a refugee family?

#3 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN

I'm pretty sure I read that the US GOV is paying private prisons over 700 USD a day to house people.

Can you sign me up for about 5 or 6 of them at the same rate?

My kids have moved on into the world and I've got the space.

Hell, a few months into it I may expand and buy something bigger to fit more people in it.

I was planning on retiring in 8 years, but at that rate I may be able to get out in 2, maybe 3 tops.

#125 | Posted by MrSilenceDogood at 2020-01-13 11:22 AM | Reply

Enjoy your earthquakes, wildfires, droughts, tent cities, ---- in the streets, high cost of living, and outlandish taxes this year.

#88 | POSTED BY GOATMAN

I do! And I will!

I will also enjoy the fact that my garage is worth more than your entire house.

lol

I guess we will see who the Christian Gawd Blesses this year won't we?

But I remember the story of Sodom and Gomorra.

It doesn't make you look very Christian when you turn away your neighbors and desperate women and children in need.

If the Christian Gawd is a Gawd of Love and Compassion then I'd say the odds are definitely in California's favor.

#126 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-01-13 11:33 AM | Reply

Abbott doesn't want any more refugees to distract him while he's killing migrant toddlers in the bloated------------'s concentration camps.

#127 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2020-01-13 01:07 PM | Reply

MSGT: If fear is what guides you, then you will never lift a finger for your fellow man. Kindness and charity by definition are an act of faith. Either you believe in God and His message of love, or you don't.

#84 | POSTED BY MODER8 AT 2020-01-12 03:36 PM | FLAG: Not fear, just common sense when talking about inviting total strangers into one's home[even US citizens]. As for religion, not my thing so you god reference in not cutting it for me. But hey, that's just me, so go ahead and be a good christian and invite a family in and I really do wish you good luck.

#128 | Posted by MSgt at 2020-01-13 01:42 PM | Reply

Once again it's time for right-wing "Christians" to pretend that America hasn't welcomed refugees over its entire history and that they've made excellent citizens.

All they've got is "well invite them into your home then" which has never been an issue either.

#129 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar at 2020-01-13 03:08 PM | Reply

Are the refugees eligible to work?

I know illegals cannot, but can these refugees?

If they can't work, how does anyone claim they will work hard when it is illegal to hire them and illegal for them to ask for a job.

#130 | Posted by Petrous at 2020-01-13 04:44 PM | Reply

If they can't work, how does anyone claim they will work hard when it is illegal to hire them and illegal for them to ask for a job.

#130 | Posted by Petrous at 2020

All the ones I've met and know about work like maniacs.

#131 | Posted by Zed at 2020-01-13 04:52 PM | Reply

Once again it's time for right-wing "Christians" to pretend that America hasn't welcomed refugees over its entire history and that they've made excellent citizens.

All they've got is "well invite them into your home then" which has never been an issue either.

#129 | POSTED BY DEREK_WILDSTAR AT 2020-01-13 03:08 PM | FLAG: Welcomed refugees into the USA who came into the system legally.

#132 | Posted by MSgt at 2020-01-14 10:29 AM | Reply

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