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Thursday, January 16, 2020

The Trump administration has threatened to impose a 25% tariff on European automobile imports if Britain, France and Germany do not formally accuse Iran of breaking the 2015 nuclear deal, the Washington Post reported on Wednesday, citing unnamed European officials.

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What, no comment, no defense from the loyal Trump right wing lunatics?

#1 | Posted by danni at 2020-01-16 08:24 AM | Reply

What, no comment, no defense from the loyal Trump right wing lunatics?

For 3 straight years is been shown the lunatics are people that believe .....

citing unnamed XXXX officials.

#2 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2020-01-16 11:15 AM | Reply

"For 3 straight years is been shown the lunatics are people that believe ....."

So, let's keep it on topic. Do you or do you not approve of Trump threatening our allies with tariffs if they refuse to formally accuse Iran of violating the Nuclear Deal, in an attempt to use tariffs as a tool to force other nations to shift their foreign policies in regards to Iran?
I see it as a very improper use of tariffs but hey, that's just me....

#3 | Posted by danni at 2020-01-16 11:25 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The difficulty with trump's demands is that Iran did not violate the treaty.

#4 | Posted by contrecoup at 2020-01-16 12:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Good! Then we can start shipping our taxis over there, increasing the prices by double, and selling it as a luxury car. Just like they do with BMWs (the craptastic taxis of the EU) to us. I know Mercedes are taxis as well but at least they have technology in their cars that make them luxury. Unlike BMWs, which have no luxury component to them until you get to the 6-series yet American douchesters swallow them up like they are candy.

#5 | Posted by humtake at 2020-01-16 12:16 PM | Reply

So, let's keep it on topic.

I am ... lunatics.

#6 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2020-01-16 12:17 PM | Reply

But seriously ... if we get to that road I will have an opinion, until then you are just howling at the moon ... which is what lunatics do.

#7 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2020-01-16 12:18 PM | Reply

"I see it as a very improper use of tariffs but hey, that's just me...."

Yes, using tariffs for political or relational gain is improper. Which is why I hated it when Obama was doing it. But, I get this is a typical partisan hate sentiment and that you only care now because it isn't your party who is doing it, so it's all good.

billmoyers.com
www.nytimes.com

Some of these tariffs seemed to be good and were not an issue but there are some that were only motivated for Obama to gain favor with other world leaders and to get votes. So, yes, it is bad when ANYONE does it, not just Trump.

#8 | Posted by humtake at 2020-01-16 12:22 PM | Reply

So, yes, it is bad when ANYONE does it, not just Trump.

#8 | Posted by humtake at 2020-01-16 12

So what do you want to do about Trump?

#9 | Posted by Zed at 2020-01-16 12:28 PM | Reply

#8 | Posted by humtake at 2020-01-16 12

You do remember Donald Trump? The actual president of the United States?

#10 | Posted by Zed at 2020-01-16 12:29 PM | Reply

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"The difficulty with trump's demands is that Iran did not violate the treaty.

#4 | POSTED BY CONTRECOUP "

The UN thinks they have.

apnews.com

The UK, France, and Germany think they have.

www.npr.org

#11 | Posted by goatman at 2020-01-16 12:32 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Also known as the full employment act for US auto workers at BMW, VW and Mercedes plants in the Southeast US. Of course, such tariffs will not apply to those vehicles, since doing so would put Trump voters out of work...

#12 | Posted by catdog at 2020-01-16 12:58 PM | Reply

"Some of these tariffs seemed to be good and were not an issue but there are some that were only motivated for Obama to gain favor with other world leaders and to get votes. So, yes, it is bad when ANYONE does it, not just Trump."

I read both of your links, neither one seemed to show Obama trying to force anyone to alter their foreign policy, they were attempts to protect American jobs or intellectual property which is a legitimate use of tariffs. Trump was trying to use tariffs to affect the foreign policies of other nations in ways not really related to trade. Apples and Oranges.

You'd have to find an example of Obama threatening a tariff on other nations if they didn't alter their foreign policy on issues not connected to trade.

#13 | Posted by danni at 2020-01-16 01:19 PM | Reply

For 3 straight years is been shown the lunatics are people that believe .....

citing unnamed XXXX officials.

#2 | Posted by AndreaMackris

There have been repeated anonymously sourced stories that have turned out to be true.

Only a disingenuous hack would barf that garbage with a straight face.

Wait, what's that?

Posted by AndreaMackris

Nevermind. I thought I smelled burning trash...

#14 | Posted by jpw at 2020-01-16 03:06 PM | Reply

But seriously ... if we get to that road I will have an opinion, until then you are just howling at the moon ... which is what lunatics do.

#7 | Posted by AndreaMackris

No, what lunatics do is shovel sand against the tide of Trump lies and corruption.

#15 | Posted by jpw at 2020-01-16 03:07 PM | Reply

I thought I smelled burning trash...
#14 | POSTED BY JPW

Hot garbage.

#16 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-01-16 03:09 PM | Reply

The UN thinks they have.
apnews.com

The UK, France, and Germany think they have.
#11 | POSTED BY GOATMAN

The treaty ended the minute Trump pulled us out of it.

Despite Trumps actions, Iran continued to stay within the parameters of the agreement for another year. During this time. Trump placed increased sanctions on them and sold billions of dollars worth of military equipment to the Saudis. Literally arming the most regressive regime in the Middle East. And Iran's main adversary in the region.

I understand if this is all lost on you. But actions have reactions and Trump is doing everything in his power to provoke Iran into a war. Mostly for the benefit of Saudi Arabia and Israel. And directly due to the fact Obama was trying to form a friendly relationship with them.

#17 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-01-16 03:39 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#17 -- take no offense, clownshack but I trust the opinion of the UN, the UK, France, and Germany more than I trust a grossly uninformed internet know it all.

But I know this will be lost on you.

#18 | Posted by goatman at 2020-01-16 03:44 PM | Reply

grossly uninformed internet know it all.
#18 | POSTED BY GOATMAN

Damn. What a great description for you.

Thanks. It's been a while since I've read such a great self retorting retort.

#19 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-01-16 03:50 PM | Reply

citing unnamed XXXX officials.
#2 | POSTED BY ANDREAMACKRIS

Here you go, moron.

At a news conference, German Defense Minister Annegret Kramp-Karrenbauer confirmed a report that the United States was threatening to impose a 25 per cent tariff on European auto exports if it continued backing the Iran nuclear deal.
www.tasnimnews.com
I know this won't matter one iota to someone like you, but in case anyone with a brain was even remotely swayed by your post, here's the named source.

#20 | Posted by JOE at 2020-01-16 04:07 PM | Reply

Wow. To an ally?

Something tells me this is not going to end well.

#21 | Posted by fresno500 at 2020-01-16 04:08 PM | Reply

The difficulty with trump's demands is that Iran did not violate the treaty.
#4 | POSTED BY CONTRECOUP

The other difficulty is, as Constitutionally Woke Deplorables love to remind us, the Senate never ratified anything.
There is no treaty.

Trump is asking for a political statement in return for protection, in this case economic.
Remind you of anything?

#22 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-01-16 04:09 PM | Reply

#21 Trump's been hacking away at our alliances since he took office, just like Putin wants.

#23 | Posted by JOE at 2020-01-16 04:13 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

The UN thinks they have.
apnews.com
The UK, France, and Germany think they have.
www.npr.org
#11 | POSTED BY GOATMAN

Not exactly.
Trump single-handedly broke the deal, not Iran or our allies.
As stated in your first link, "But since the U.S. under President Donald Trump pulled out of the pact last year"
As stated in your second link, "The 2015 Iran nuclear deal, already teetering after the U.S. withdrawal and subsequent breaches by the Iranian government"

#24 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-01-16 04:16 PM | Reply

#20 | Posted by JOE

LOL it didn't even take a week!

Hey Andrea, sheeple, goat et al, who gets the cookie in the middle this time?

Morons.

#25 | Posted by jpw at 2020-01-16 04:41 PM | Reply

"Hey Andrea, sheeple, goat et al, who gets the cookie in the middle this time?
Morons.

#25 | POSTED BY JPW"

Why are you asking me? You said you have me plonked and so can't see my answer.

You don't strike me as being very bright for someone who thinks his IQ can only be expressed in scientific notation,

#26 | Posted by goatman at 2020-01-16 04:46 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"The UN thinks they have.
apnews.com
The UK, France, and Germany think they have.
www.npr.org
#11 | POSTED BY GOATMAN

Not exactly.

#24 | POSTED BY SNOOFY "

Take it up with the UN, the UK, France, and Germany then. I'm just quoting them.

And I'm pretty sure they know the opinions of their countries better than you, snoofygames.

#27 | Posted by goatman at 2020-01-16 04:48 PM | Reply

"Take it up with the UN, the UK, France, and Germany then. I'm just quoting them."

I'm taking it up with you.
The US unilaterally withdrew from the multi-nation deal.
Is there still a deal at that point? Yes or no.

#28 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-01-16 04:49 PM | Reply

Is there still a deal at that point? Yes or no.

#28 | Posted by snoofy

Of course it is!

Orange Schitstain is the master of all deal making, so if he pulled out then clearly it's just a 4D chess move you don't understand and can't see the genius behind his move in breaking the agreement while still keeping it an agreement!

#29 | Posted by jpw at 2020-01-16 04:59 PM | Reply

""Take it up with the UN, the UK, France, and Germany then. I'm just quoting them.""

But they haven't pulled out of the deal like Trump did, their actions, or rather inactions, speak far louder than the voices your post is based on. The fact they have not pulled out of the deal speaks volumes about Trump's threat of tariffs on autos. He's trying to threaten economic punishment for any nation that won't follow his script. First, it is illegal, second it is divisive between allies, third is is just plain stupid considering the potential threat that an Iran with no nuclear deal presents. The entire deal may not have survived Trump's idiotic pull-out by the U.S. done simply to undo something his predecessor had accomplished, and yes, it is that petty, but the surviving parts of the deal are still in place and strong enough to prevent Iran from becoming the next nuclear power. Apparently your loyalty to Trump outweighs the importance of reality.

#30 | Posted by danni at 2020-01-17 10:42 AM | Reply

It should also be considered that if any of those allies now do pull out of the deal it will be seen, by the world, as caving in to Donald Trump's treat of tariffs. The people of those nations will not respect their leaders if they do cave in to that wannabe dictator.

#31 | Posted by danni at 2020-01-17 10:44 AM | Reply

Yes, using tariffs for political or relational gain is improper. Which is why I hated it when Obama was doing it. But, I get this is a typical partisan hate sentiment and that you only care now because it isn't your party who is doing it, so it's all good.
billmoyers.com
www.nytimes.com
Some of these tariffs seemed to be good and were not an issue but there are some that were only motivated for Obama to gain favor with other world leaders and to get votes. So, yes, it is bad when ANYONE does it, not just Trump.

#8 | POSTED BY HUMTAKE

Let me get this straight...

You are comparing copyright/patent protection from TPP and Obama's tariffs on tires to Trump's tariffs on hundreds of billions of dollars in goods?

Jesus, the Moyers article isn't even an actual cost. It says TPP wouldn't raise the price here. It just keeps patent protections in place preventing India from stealing drug patents and making the items cheaper for us.

Ironically, that type of theft for cheap manufacturing is what we are demanding China stop doing...until Trump caved.

READ your own articles.

#32 | Posted by Sycophant at 2020-01-17 05:01 PM | Reply

Humtake is obsessed with hummer giving to Trump. He is a sad ---- that is compelled to excuse every Trump crime with false whatsboutisms.

#33 | Posted by bored at 2020-01-17 10:12 PM | Reply

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