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Thursday, January 16, 2020

The Facts: Adrian Lopez Velarde and Marte Cazarez have found a way to make "leather" out of cactus. It's one of many ways we can stop harming animals and start to implement environmentally friendly practices when it comes to developing some of our products.



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Yeah? Well think about how many cute little fluffy bunny rabbits starved to death because you ate their salad!!!

#1 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2020-01-16 02:22 PM | Reply

Have you ever heard a cactus scream as it was being butchered?

#2 | Posted by danni at 2020-01-16 02:49 PM | Reply

#2 | Posted by danni

You do know that plants scream to each other chemically when in pain, right? To warn the other plants? It raises their defense and healing mechanisms. You can't do anything about because you're rooted in place (you're a plant) but you can warn your neighbors to get ready to be nibbled on.

Mice giggle supersonicly if you tickle their little furry tummies. They have a whole acoustic world we didn't see. Dolphin speech (and it is speech - they call each other by name and have regional dialects) is also starting to come clear thanks to new tech.

#3 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2020-01-16 04:48 PM | Reply

"Have you ever heard a cactus scream as it was being butchered?"

Do they curse and saguaro a lot?

#4 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-01-16 04:51 PM | Reply

""Have you ever heard a cactus scream as it was being butchered?""

I have and it's absolutely bone chilling.

Good thing that animals are killed before we butcher them. They should do the same for plants, though I do love nopales and they grow in the wild everywhere here. But oh! Those shrieking screams!

"So, Clarice. Has the cactus stopped screaming?"

Silence of the Saguaros

#5 | Posted by goatman at 2020-01-16 05:03 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#5 It's "Cacti", bigot.

#6 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2020-01-16 05:23 PM | Reply

American natives were using fiber and epidermis of cacti to make shoes and clothing for the last 5000 years. There is nothing new under the sun. Big advantage, the clothing is much more cooler than leather.

#7 | Posted by docnjo at 2020-01-16 08:18 PM | Reply

Dammit. This will drive up the price of nopales.

#8 | Posted by sentinel at 2020-01-17 06:58 PM | Reply

"Dammit. This will drive up the price of nopales.


They are everywhere growing wild in the part of Texas. Some years I pick their fruit (tuna) in the fall and make syrup or jelly with it. It's delicious. I didn't get around to it this year. I may check and see if it's too late. Usually November, early December is the time to pick tuna

I could get all the nopales (usually eaten as nopalitos) I could ever want within 1/4 mile of leaving civilization. All fencelines have them since livestock doesn't eat it.

Prickly pear and tuna. The paddles are the nopales. The purple is the fruit called tuna. Not to be confused with the fish.


#9 | Posted by goatman at 2020-01-17 07:08 PM | Reply

#9 | Posted by goatman One of my favorites, we call them prickly pear, The fresh young leaves are great in the spring, the fruit in the fall. The natives have been eating them for at least the last 2000 years.

#10 | Posted by docnjo at 2020-01-17 07:54 PM | Reply



Yucca is more important to the natives, The root is a good source of starch at certain times, soap in others. The leaves make a very durable rope, sandals and cloth. The blooms in the spring are pretty tasty. Have no doubt, if anything was edible, the natives used it.

#11 | Posted by docnjo at 2020-01-17 07:59 PM | Reply

Yep, they were a crafty bunch.
Can you imagine thinking they were poor stewards of the land... our land, as is our Manifest Destiny, and ethnically cleansing them?

#12 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-01-17 08:01 PM | Reply

#9 When I moved here I had to wrap my head around the fact that there are trees with actual fruit and you can just go and take whatever you want in San Diego. Those prickly pears are everywhere.

#13 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-01-17 08:06 PM | Reply

#13 | Posted by snoofy, They originally came from the central plateau in Mexico. It, like corn was deliberately spread long before Columbus, along with squash, peppers and several other edibles. Most of the pre-coulmbian tribes were farmers.

#14 | Posted by docnjo at 2020-01-17 08:19 PM | Reply

#12 | Posted by snoofy Actually, like anyone else they did some good and some bad. They farmed a lot, and they could not maintain the fertility of the soil, thus they moved their settlements and villages fairly often. The plains people burnt off the prairie, regularly. Most of the large animals in north America went extinct after they arrived. Unfortunately they didn't have draft animals or much that could be domesticated. The Europeans brought them in.

#15 | Posted by docnjo at 2020-01-17 08:38 PM | Reply

"Most of the large animals in north America went extinct after they arrived."

Not the buffalo.
We killed those off, to starve out the Indians.

How did you put it... like anyone else we did some good and some bad.

#16 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-01-17 09:59 PM | Reply

There were good buffalo on both sides.

#17 | Posted by sentinel at 2020-01-18 01:09 AM | Reply

#16 | Posted by snoofy, Not the buffalo. We killed those off, to starve out the Indians. Partially true. The big motivation for clearing the plains was to make the area available for farming and ranching. You cant raise corn in Nebraska if about half a million bison move across your fields. You can't ranch if your herd is constantly infected with tic fever from the local wild life. In any case they have reintroduced the American Bison and they are doing well, about half a million in population last I checked. We actually use bison as livestock now, the meat is exceptionally lean. We have bred them with cattle, the hybrid is more muscular and heavier. The big problem with bison is they are wild animals. Basically you can get them to do what ever they decide to do. They require three times the fencing, the overhead is considerable along with the risk dealing with them. Remember a full grown bull can weigh more than a ton and stand more than seven feet tall.

#18 | Posted by docnjo at 2020-01-18 11:17 AM | Reply

"10"prickly pear. Of course

The syrup I have made out of it is excellent on pancakes and it makes, no lie, the best margaritas I have ever had. One shot of tequila, half a shot Drambuie, , juice of one orange, juice of 3 key limes, and I shot of the prickly pear cactus syrup. Shake with crushed ice and strain into a glass with one single ice cube. I like to do a splash of Topo Chico to have a bit of carbonationarbonation

#19 | Posted by goatman at 2020-01-18 02:13 PM | Reply

#19 | Posted by goatman Tequila with Drambuie? That is about as Mexican as a taco pizza.

#20 | Posted by docnjo at 2020-01-19 08:00 AM | Reply

BTW, They seldom drink Tequila in Mexico. Brandy is the preferred liqueur. Have no doubt Mexico makes some good brandy.

#21 | Posted by docnjo at 2020-01-19 08:02 AM | Reply

Tequila is popular in Mexico, although brandy and whisky may be more popular. I remember Torres 5 and Torres 10 were popular brandy labels there. Depending on where you are in Mexico, different types of mezcal are also popular. And of course pulque.

#22 | Posted by sentinel at 2020-01-19 12:11 PM | Reply

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