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Friday, January 17, 2020

In the immediate aftermath of the Iranian ballistic missile strike against two Iraqi bases housing U.S. troops, President Donald Trump took to Twitter assuring the American public that "all is well."

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Undoubtedly if Trump had said Americans were injured, the usual suspects would be whining that Trump was just trying to stir up sympathy for support of war.

Also, Trump was looking to avoid escalation as indicated by his willingness to allow things to cool off and "call it even", something the left predictably knee jerked and condemned of course.

Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. TDS sucks.

#1 | Posted by goatman at 2020-01-16 10:02 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

So Trump's lies are the Dems fault. Why not?

#2 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2020-01-17 12:45 AM | Reply

FTA:

Trump tweeted, "Assessment of casualties & damages taking place now. So far, so good! "

Article goes into hysteria: "" and had to be airlifted for treatment for traumatic brain injury." traumatic brain injury.?? OH NO!!

Article then states, "...several were treated for concussion symptoms from the blast and are still being assessed"

Football injury. pretty good considering it was a missile.

Conclusion: Headline Fabrication

#3 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2020-01-17 12:52 AM | Reply

"So Trump's lies are the Dems fault. Why not?

#2 | POSTED BY TFDNIHILIST "

Why can't the right play that false blame game, too? I didn't realize the left had exclusive rights to it.

#4 | Posted by goatman at 2020-01-17 12:57 AM | Reply

With the Iran Hostage Crisis stretching into its sixth month and all diplomatic appeals to the Iranian government ending in failure, President Jimmy Carter ordered the military mission as a last ditch attempt to save the hostages. During the operation, three of eight helicopters failed, crippling the crucial airborne plans. The mission was then canceled at the staging area in Iran, but during the withdrawal one of the retreating helicopters collided with one of six C-130 transport planes, killing eight soldiers and injuring five. The next day, a somber Jimmy Carter gave a press conference in which he took full responsibility for the tragedy.

Trump's response: I like soldiers that don't crash, and they knew what the signed up for.

#5 | Posted by bored at 2020-01-17 02:18 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#1 How dare anyone to expect honesty in the extraordinary or mundane daily events from the orange shart!

Not only is he a pathological liar, but a very stupid one at that as the truth of the events comes out time and time again to prove him a liar, but you and the rest of his knob polishers don't care.

If the orange diaper sniper is so afraid of criticism over starting hostilities because he needs GOP support for his impeachment that he feels the need to blatantly lie about it, maybe he should show some restraint or at least not entertain the crowds with a half hour of verbal diarrhea chock full of lies.

He loves the poorly educated because they believe his bullschitt over and over.

#6 | Posted by Nixon at 2020-01-17 06:40 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The next day, a somber Jimmy Carter gave a press conference in which he took full responsibility for the tragedy.

Trump's response: I like soldiers that don't crash, and they knew what the signed up for.

#5 | Posted by bored at 2020-01-17 02:18 AM | Reply | Flag:

Trumps response would have been....

"Some of the helicopters had a slight malfunction but nobody was hurt because of my great leadership."

Now today if anyone asks him about the injuries and him saying "no one was hurt" previously he will say "I never said that....YOU'RE FAKE NEWS!"

#7 | Posted by Nixon at 2020-01-17 06:42 AM | Reply

Buried under the avalanche of impeachment revelations

Americans WERE hurt. And Trump did nothing. More will be hurt. And Humpy will do nothing. Cause Humpy done goofed.

Because the coward cannot finish what he started.

Unless it is a bucket of Kentucky fried chicken.

#8 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-01-17 06:48 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Damned if he (Trump) does, damned if he doesn't.

#1 | Posted by goatman a

Cowardly Trump showed up at the last minute and thoroughly Spooked God-Emperor Trump.

He lied about US casualties so he didn't have to sell wolf tickets over his further threats to Iran.

He's called off one previous military strike against Iran recently for the same reason.

God-Emperor Trump wants a war with Iran. To get it he'll need to throw Cowardly Trump under the bus, which he would do if he weren't so frightened.

#9 | Posted by Zed at 2020-01-17 08:40 AM | Reply

Americans WERE hurt. And Trump did nothing...

Because the coward cannot finish what he started.

#8 | Posted by donnerboy a

What Trump does, by frequent report, is to curse and stomp and fume until he coerces someone else to take the action he wants done.

Then, if it goes south, he never met that person before-although he's sure there's a picture somewhere with the two of them together.

#10 | Posted by Zed at 2020-01-17 08:43 AM | Reply

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"Undoubtedly if Trump had said Americans were injured, the usual suspects would be whining that Trump was just trying to stir up sympathy for support of war."

You are so full of crap. The fact is he lied to the American people so he could brag about the whole thing. Clue: it is not ok for the President to lie to the American people no matter if you fear your cult leader might catch some flack for his idiotic murder of a foreign leader who was replaced with someone just as bad within 24 hours.
Perhaps it is ok for Trump to lie to you, but it's not ok with the rest of us.

#11 | Posted by danni at 2020-01-17 09:43 AM | Reply

And now the story gets clear...

"Asked about the apparent discrepancy, a Defense official told CNN, 'That was the commander's assessment at the time. Symptoms emerged days after the fact, and they were treated out of an abundance of caution.'"

Trump didn't know, because nobody knew.

#12 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2020-01-17 09:46 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

"Symptoms emerged days after the fact"

#12 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2020-01-17 09:46 AM | Reply | Flag:

PHYSICAL symptoms? Secondary to a missile strike?

OK, I'll bite. These were?

#13 | Posted by Zed at 2020-01-17 10:04 AM | Reply

Trump didn't know, because nobody knew.

#12 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2020-01

Let's start with this: Donald Trump is a Liar.

Liars lie. Donald Trump has demonstrated that he'll lie when telling the truth is less of a problem for him.

#14 | Posted by Zed at 2020-01-17 10:06 AM | Reply

#13 They were all medevaced for symptoms consistent with concussions. Look em up.

#15 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2020-01-17 10:10 AM | Reply

I'd like to remind Trump's fans here that Donald said he'd retaliate against them if they responded to the assassination AT ALL. He made quite a big deal about it.

So that's TWICE in a row he's backed out of action at the last minute.

I am very glad we don't have a war with Iran. But if what's keeping us from one is Trump's cowardice then that's no reassurance. One day his vainglorious ego will over-master his fear.

#16 | Posted by Zed at 2020-01-17 10:11 AM | Reply

#16 Translation: "I was wrong. Orange man bad anyway."

#17 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2020-01-17 11:18 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

11 people being treated for concussion isn't quite the same as "Over 80 Americans died. Two C-130s full of bodies just took off for Germany in secret. We got documents to prove it!"....

Better luck next time, Iran. LOL

#18 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2020-01-17 11:20 AM | Reply

They know what they signed up for.

~ The bloated------------ ~

#19 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2020-01-17 11:22 AM | Reply

We got documents to prove it

LOL

twitter.com

#20 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2020-01-17 11:31 AM | Reply

This should be front page.

"I am pleased to inform you, the American people should be extremely grateful and happy. No Americans were harmed in last night's attack by the Iranian regime," "We suffered no casualties. All of our soldiers are safe, and only minimal damage was sustained at our military bases."

"The Denier-In-Chief (DIC)

#21 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-01-17 11:31 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Iran needed to forge a letter saying over 100 Americans died.

LOL

#22 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2020-01-17 11:33 AM | Reply

Re #22

Personally I don't care about Iran's lies. It is expected from them. They have to answer to their own people.

I care about the lies told by our leader. And We The People need to hold our leaders accountable for their lies and the consequences of those lies.

And that is why Donald J Trump has been impeached and will be impeached forever.

And if he keeps it up I say impeach that farging lying icehole again!

#23 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-01-17 11:39 AM | Reply

#21 See #12

#24 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2020-01-17 11:42 AM | Reply

Symptoms emerged days after the fact, and they were treated out of an abundance of caution.'"

Trump didn't know, because nobody knew.

#12 | POSTED BY MUSTANG

Are you cute? Still making excuses for his incompetence. He knew or he should have known. Before he opened his pie hole. Now he has to correct his misstatements.

Ok. So now he knows.

What is he saying about it. Is he having a news conference to correct his fake news sometimes known as lies?? No. Trump is indifferent to the facts.

No he is not.

Trumpy and his team of incompetent morons aren't even willing to explain why he approved the Soleimani mission. Those of us waiting for them to clarify why the president's post-strike comments were wrong will probably be waiting for quite a while. Like forever. Or until the truth is finally reported in the New York Times or the Washington Post

#25 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-01-17 12:09 PM | Reply

Well, are you cute punk?

(Should have been "aren't you cute")

#26 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-01-17 12:11 PM | Reply

Undoubtedly if Trump had said Americans were injured, the usual suspects would be whining that Trump was just trying to stir up sympathy for support of war.

#1 | POSTED BY GOATMAN

No, we'd be shocked that he actually told the truth for once.

#27 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar at 2020-01-17 02:37 PM | Reply

It simply amazes me, when Trump is again caught in a lie, that there is a good number of posters here who are ok with it, justfiy it, make excuses for it. Trump is now beyond reproach and he knows it and will make use of that fact in the future.

#28 | Posted by danni at 2020-01-17 03:00 PM | Reply

It's as if you don't know what "days later" means.

#29 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2020-01-17 03:04 PM | Reply

Sound and pressure waves from ballistic missile blasts can cause inner ear trauma which may cause vertigo, tinnitus, hyperacusis and/or permanent hearing loss. My guess is that is what these soldiers have-- it usually isn't reported right away because they think it will go away in a few hours or a couple of days. It usually doesn't. It will last until they die.

Most of the vets where my Dad is currently living have one or more of these issues except the vertigo-- including my Dad. Currently, hearing loss related issues and tinnitus are the number one cause of disability in the military.

As a kid my Dad's favorite word was, "What?" with "Huh?" coming in a close second. He also complained of a constant buzzing and throbbing in his left ear, which he described as constant electrical zapping and jungle drums. He told me once that that was his punishment for going somewhere he shouldn't have gone to fight people that he shouldn't have fought.

#30 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2020-01-17 03:13 PM | Reply

--As a kid my Dad's favorite word was, "What?" with "Huh?" coming in a close second.

Yeah, my dad was deaf in one ear and partially deaf in the other from flying bombing missions over Europe. Couldn't even watch tv with him without earplugs because he had to turn the volume up to maximum.

#31 | Posted by nullifidian at 2020-01-17 03:31 PM | Reply

30/31
The old "I'm deaf from the war" technique! Classic.
They were just ignoring you guys...

#32 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2020-01-17 03:34 PM | Reply | Funny: 3

-- They were just ignoring you guys...

Probably. There were 4 of us little brats and we made a lot of noise.

#33 | Posted by nullifidian at 2020-01-17 03:38 PM | Reply

"The old "I'm deaf from the war" technique! Classic.
They were just ignoring you guys...
"

There's a Gulf War vet at the facility where my dad lives who is in his mid-60s. He sometimes uses a notepad for people to write notes in order to communicate with him, just like Beethoven did. Now he is completely deaf-- the result of a shell from a BMP-1 hitting his Bradley. His cochlear implant failed a few years after they gave it to him.

He says, "You know what? They are right-- war is hell, but my life afterwards has been far, far worse." I tend to believe him.. He doesn't say much else. He just sits there and plays Minecraft all day.

#34 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2020-01-17 03:49 PM | Reply

A number of soldiers who were in the vicinity of the concussive effects of explosions are sent to concussion protocol several days later and the Useful Idiots of the DR Left circle flap screaming "Trump lied!!!!!"

You dolts never fail to disappoint.

#35 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2020-01-17 03:58 PM | Reply

A number of soldiers who were in the vicinity of the concussive effects of explosions are sent to concussion protocol several days later and the Useful Idiots of the DR Left circle flap screaming "Trump lied!!!!!"

#35 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2

You don't expect Trump to lie? You're the last one.

#36 | Posted by Zed at 2020-01-17 04:03 PM | Reply

He doesn't say much else. He just sits there and plays Minecraft all day.
#34 | POSTED BY NERFHERDER

Interesting story.
What's his DR handle?

#37 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-01-17 04:05 PM | Reply

#35 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2

Don't you get tired or pretending that Donald Trump deserves some presumption of innocence?

#38 | Posted by Zed at 2020-01-17 04:05 PM | Reply

Interesting story.
What's his DR handle?
"

Something like RCADE. I don't think he posts here too often anymore, tho'

#39 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2020-01-17 04:14 PM | Reply

Undoubtedly if Trump had said Americans were injured, the usual suspects would be whining that Trump was just trying to stir up sympathy for support of war.
Also, Trump was looking to avoid escalation as indicated by his willingness to allow things to cool off and "call it even", something the left predictably knee jerked and condemned of course.
Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. TDS sucks.
#1 | POSTED BY GOATMAN

Defending Trump's lies? That's the Trump Cult we all know and hate!

How about Trump just say:
"There were no casualties. We are still assessing injuries and will keep you updated."

#40 | Posted by Sycophant at 2020-01-17 04:36 PM | Reply

FTA:
Trump tweeted, "Assessment of casualties & damages taking place now. So far, so good! "
Article goes into hysteria: "" and had to be airlifted for treatment for traumatic brain injury." traumatic brain injury.?? OH NO!!
Article then states, "...several were treated for concussion symptoms from the blast and are still being assessed"
Football injury. pretty good considering it was a missile.
Conclusion: Headline Fabrication

#3 | POSTED BY SHEEPLESCHISM

How bad were the concussions?

You don't know but want to pretend they were nothing serious so you can defend Trump?

Are you honestly dumb enough to think they would airlift soldiers for mild concussions?

Concussion is the medical term for your brain basically bouncing around your skull from some form of impact to your head or body. Football players generally have mild concussions because of padded helmets. In the old days before helmets, a couple college players a year would die from concussions.

If it's bad enough, we are talking brain damage or possibly death.

So Sheeple, tell us how bad the Concussions were since you obviously have secret sources!!!

#41 | Posted by Sycophant at 2020-01-17 04:46 PM | Reply

"Are you honestly dumb enough to think they would airlift soldiers for mild concussions?"

Depends.
Have we privatized airlifting soldiers yet, so government contractors can make money by airlifting soldiers needlessly?
Has Docnjo invested in it yet?

#42 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-01-17 04:48 PM | Reply

He just sits there and plays Minecraft all day.
#34 | POSTED BY NERFHERDER

At least he found that! Can't imagine what options he would have back in the '70s or '80s. Nice to see the older crowd, especially those as gruff as veterans, acquiesce to the benefits of gaming.

#43 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-01-17 05:06 PM | Reply

"Can't imagine what options he would have back in the '70s or '80s."

Solitaire.

#44 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-01-17 05:07 PM | Reply

Solitaire.
#44 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

JFC. I can't even imagine.

#45 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-01-17 05:09 PM | Reply

Better to be safe than sorry. For years we underestimated the effects of blast and over pressure on the interior of an individuals skull. They screen people with a MRI now to see where or if any damage occurred. The nearest MRI is in Germany.

#46 | Posted by docnjo at 2020-01-17 08:25 PM | Reply

The nearest MRI is in Germany.

For some reason that set my -------- detector off.

#47 | Posted by REDIAL at 2020-01-17 08:40 PM | Reply

The nearest MRI is in Germany.

As it regards the military's MRIs specifically for brain trauma, the statement appears to be true. I found these when I did a search, but it doesn't give specific details regarding exactly where the machines are today.

MRI machines for treating soldiers pulled from war zone

MRI To The Fight

#48 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-01-17 08:56 PM | Reply

Conclusion: Headline Fabrication

#3 | POSTED BY SHEEPLESCHISM AT 2020-01-17 12:52 AM

No fabrication

MANY troops are still on post and being evaluated for concussive symptoms. They were not airlifted. They are still at the airbase

11 were airlifted to Germany for treatment of traumatic brain injury.

You are the idiot making assumptions.

#49 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2020-01-17 09:15 PM | Reply

Bottom Line Trump has REPEATEDLY claimed there were no casualties and no injuries That was a lie the first time he said it and an even bigger lie when he repeated it AFTER the pentagon reported the troops getting airlifted

#50 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2020-01-17 09:19 PM | Reply

"The nearest MRI is in Germany.
For some reason that set my -------- detector off.
#47 | POSTED BY REDIAL"

There's surely one in KSA, but I think they're saying, the nearest one the Army can use.
MRI isn't just a glorified X-ray like CT, the big ones cost millions and run on liquid helium; it makes sense they don't have one in the field. As the link in #46 says "(It) was deemed not worth the cost and investment to keep those devices in theater."

#51 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-01-17 09:39 PM | Reply

...but I think they're saying, the nearest one the Army can use.

Well then "they" should say that.

#52 | Posted by REDIAL at 2020-01-17 10:01 PM | Reply

The MRI machine is irrelevant when Trump claimed there were no injuries.

Nice attempt at deflection though

#53 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2020-01-18 01:21 AM | Reply

"Well then "they" should say that."

Don't let me stand between you and your righteous indignation!

#54 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-01-18 01:33 AM | Reply

Don't let me stand between you and your righteous indignation!

#54 | POSTED BY SNOOFY AT 2020-01-18 01:33 AM

How dare you talk to the DR Left like that!

-The DR Left

#55 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2020-01-18 11:55 AM | Reply

Americans were injured and the Lefties couldn't be happier. They're the ones that want war.

#56 | Posted by visitor_ at 2020-01-18 12:46 PM | Reply

Is there anything the child-raping orange schittstain won't lie about?

#57 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2020-01-18 02:06 PM | Reply

Is there anything the child-raping orange schittstain won't lie about?

No.

#58 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-01-18 02:08 PM | Reply

Is it really a lie if you believe it's true?

Asking for Deplorables.

#59 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-01-18 11:49 PM | Reply

Trump didn't know, because nobody knew.

#12 | POSTED BY MUSTANG

You dolts never fail to disappoint.

#35 | POSTED BY RIGHTOCENTER

Apparently our military has never been around explosions before? "No one knew concussions were this complicated"?

We spend hundreds of billions of dollars a year on the military, and they haven't studied the effects of explosions on soldiers? I knew they were incompetent at winning wars, but thought at least they would have some competence in the effects of vehicles of war on the human body. Is there anything that they are competent in?

#60 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2020-01-19 10:18 AM | Reply

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