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Tuesday, January 21, 2020

The first warning sign of the new year came three days into 2020. Speaking at a rally of conservative evangelicals in South Florida, President Donald Trump riffed on the targeted killing of Iran's Qassem Soleimani before the thousands assembled in the King Jesus International Ministry megachurch, outside of Miami.

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I have heard from a number of Latinos here in SF that they feel like they are being ignored by the primary candidates or even worse, their votes are being taken for granted by the DNC.

This is a serious mistake, and while California is probably the bluest State in the US the Democrats cannot afford to lose this bloc in any election.

#1 | Posted by leftcoastlawyer at 2020-01-20 02:20 PM | Reply

I seriously doubt this is anything more than fear-mongering by The Atlantic, since the Latino bloc isn't going to suddenly shift over to the GOP, especially with Trump's focus on cracking down on illegal immigration.

When Pete Wilson tried something similar in California, that merely served to move California Latinos further to the Left.

#2 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2020-01-20 02:44 PM | Reply

What the Democrats seem to not understand is that the Latinos outside of their coastal states don't necessarily agree with their coastal counterparts based simply on race/ethnicity. I think that is the Dem issue why they no longer understand their base - they honestly think everything comes down to identity politics - nominate a woman and women HAVE TO vote for you. Pander to coastal Latinos and ALL Latinos HAVE TO vote for you.

Sorry, but the Latino in Ohio, WI or Michigan have very different concerns than those in LA. Further, the Mexicans (legal and illegal) have a very different view of the Guatemala and Honduras illegals flooding the border currently. So, the Dem reliance on pandering to illegals regardless of national origin is a self-defeating strategy. Much like the black vote is very likely to increase substantially for Trump - so will the Latino vote - although this may be washed out a bit as coastal Latinos will vote very different than the middle America Latinos. In the battle ground states where it matters, this is a huge win for Trump.

I will add this last tidbit - while the Dems can fool the dimwitted whites under 30's that illegal immigration has no effect of wages - you cannot fool the Latinos working in the trades as they see it first hand.

#3 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2020-01-20 09:58 PM | Reply

Heard a NYT podcast on how Bernie is courting them hard-core. They also like Biden.

#4 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2020-01-21 12:38 PM | Reply

The podcast was "the daily" and the title was "Bernie's big bet". It was taking place in Cali.

#5 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2020-01-21 12:38 PM | Reply

@#3 ... What the Democrats seem to not understand is that the Latinos outside of their coastal states don't necessarily agree with their coastal counterparts based simply on race/ethnicity. ...

To some extent I agree that the Democrats should not take for granted support from non-coastal Latinos. I'm thinking the Democrats may be misreading a lot this year, based upon what I hear in their campaigning.


... while the Dems can fool the dimwitted whites under 30's that illegal immigration has no effect of wages ...

I think that misunderstanding may be better stated that the Republicans have fooled themselves into thinking that about the Democrats.

A couple three months ago I said I thought Pres Trump had about a 60% chance of getting re-elected come November. I'm now thinking that maybe I should be bumping up that percentage a bit.


#6 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-01-21 07:07 PM | Reply

Latinos should vote for the candidate whose policies they believe are best for both themselves and the country. Nobody should take them for granted. To do so is both presumptuous and condescending.

#7 | Posted by moder8 at 2020-01-21 08:47 PM | Reply

@#7 ... Latinos should vote for the candidate whose policies they believe are best for both themselves and the country. ...

Unfortunately, sometimes the emotion and, let's face it, hypnotism of an election cycle can cause people to vote against their own interests.

We have seen that in many gorups who voted for candidate Trump, and then he went on to screw them to the wall.

#8 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-01-21 09:25 PM | Reply

Latinos, like every other demographic, are not a homogeneous voting bloc, and we have had this discussion before: older legal latinos in the US are more religiously conservative than whites of a similar age. Democrats who overplay the abortion argument put themselves at risk.

#9 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2020-01-22 08:50 AM | Reply

"Sorry, but the Latino in Ohio, WI or Michigan have very different concerns than those in LA."

So, there are plenty of issues which Democrats and Republicans disagree on that working class Latinos be supportive of. They still care about healthcare, cost of education, climate change (which is actually one of the main factors causing migration north), etc. Unless they inherit or win $1,000,000 I expect they will understand that the Republican Party is only concerned with benefiting the 1%, they support nothing for working class Americans.

#10 | Posted by danni at 2020-01-22 09:07 AM | Reply

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Really? As compared to what? The Republicans
who have locked up their children, tried to build a
wall to keep them out, and generally think of them
as less than citizens... Seriously...

#11 | Posted by earthmuse at 2020-01-22 10:53 AM | Reply

Real simple to determine whether or not Dems should be concerned about Latino support. Ask your local Latinos the following:
-Are you in favor of another four years of Central American children in cages?
-Do you support the lack of funding and help on the ground for Americans in Puerto Rico, after the natural disasters there in the past three years?

Note the response, and you have your answer...

#12 | Posted by catdog at 2020-01-22 01:11 PM | Reply

"support. Ask your local Latinos the following:
-Are you in favor of another four years of Central American children in cages?
-Do you support the lack of funding and help on the ground for Americans in Puerto Rico, after the natural disasters there in the past three years?
Note the response, and you have your answer...

#12 | POSTED BY CATDOG "

What does the first question have to do with anything?

As to the second (or any like question) legal Hispanics think very much like the white people. I live in a city that is 2/3 Hispanic (San Antonio) and they no more worry about other non-American Hispanics than German Americans worry about Germans. They do not like the illegal alien problem. In fact, they dislike it more than whites because they feel they are seen as illegals.

Don't try to second guess Hispanics. Take your own advice and talk to them and ask them questions.

#13 | Posted by goatman at 2020-01-22 01:18 PM | Reply

People assume certain ethnic groups or other socio-demographic groups are so sensitive to such issues. More specifically, they HOPE they are sensitive.

But they aren't necessarily.

San Antonio Hispanics are a good example.

#14 | Posted by eberly at 2020-01-22 02:23 PM | Reply

Here in OKC there are plenty of Latinos who do not care for children in cages. Especially when those children look a lot like the children of the Latinos asked. As for the second question, ask the PR diaspora in Florida and the NYC metro area. They will give you an earful...

#15 | Posted by catdog at 2020-01-23 09:00 AM | Reply

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