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Thursday, January 23, 2020

It's day two for House Democrats to convince senators that President Donald Trump should be removed from office -- and a test for senators who seem to be growing more restless by the hour as the impeachment trial drags on.

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Impeach him from office now or have the 82nd Airborne come for him later.

#1 | Posted by Zed at 2020-01-23 01:23 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

Those who disparage Schiff's presentations are full of crap - he is doing an exemplary job and making the material come alive with menace.

#2 | Posted by grumpy_too at 2020-01-23 01:33 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 3

Those who disparage Schiff's presentations are full of crap - he is doing an exemplary job and making the material come alive with menace.

#2 | Posted by grumpy_too

He's been brilliant.

#3 | Posted by Zed at 2020-01-23 01:46 PM | Reply

he is doing an exemplary job and making the material come alive with menace.

That's exactly what I tell my kids when they're lying to me.

#4 | Posted by Ben_Berkkake at 2020-01-23 01:54 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

That's exactly what I tell my kids when they're lying to me.

#4 | Posted by Ben_Berkkake

Oh God you have kids?

#5 | Posted by jpw at 2020-01-23 01:58 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

The real problem here is that the Russiapublican Party has painted themselves into a corner, and they're acting like they're cornered, too.

There is no defense of DJT, and there will be none.

Everyone knows he's guilty, they're just struggling to find a way out of admitting it.

The stronger the Democrats build the case, the worse it's going to be for us when the Russiapublicans concede our government to Orange Furious.

The Republicans are taking their chances with backing Dictator Donny, they have chosen this because either way they're committing political suicide. One version still gives them a shot at keeping their jobs, the other requires courage to do the right thing, and the results are bad for the Party. We all know that courage has not been on the menu for a long time.

If the case is too strong, which it is, I am pretty sure that the Russiapublicans are just going to pour salt on the ground and light up the flamethrowers.

#6 | Posted by chuffy at 2020-01-23 02:05 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Oh God you have kids?

Of course! While you figure out your pronouns, I'm enjoying life and filling the world with more winners.

You'll know all about them, your kids will be crying about picking up their dry cleaning.

#7 | Posted by Ben_Berkkake at 2020-01-23 02:06 PM | Reply | Funny: 4

The case isn't strong. Which is why you hear platitudes about making the material come alive with menace. I can't even type that without laughing.

#8 | Posted by Ben_Berkkake at 2020-01-23 02:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

There's a rumor that despite the defense team being given three days to make their case against the conviction of the president, the same as was given to the House Managers, that in order to assure that the trial is over by the end of next week, so that Trump will be able to use the State of the Union Address on February 4th to take a victory lap and gloat over his total exoneration, that his lawyers will only take a single day to make their case. After all, they don't really have a lot to say other than "Democrats BAD - Trump GOOD" and they certainly don't have any documents nor witness testimony which will show that the president didn't abuse his powers as president or didn't obstruct Congress, so the less time they're seen dancing and weaving around the facts, the better for their side.

This is also why McConnell will never allow any documents or witnesses as this would drag the proceedings out past the SOTU and he's already promised Trump that he will have that night to congratulate himself on his great victory and to announce, now that he has been freed of any and all Constitutional constraints, how he will 'rule' the nation going forward.

OCU

#9 | Posted by OCUser at 2020-01-23 02:27 PM | Reply

Will Sanders and Warren have to recuse themselves as they've both made prejudicial statements and have a conflict of interest in removing the president they intend to run against?

#10 | Posted by visitor_ at 2020-01-23 02:40 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

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I took a massive dump today and lo and behold, the material came alive with menace!

-Also Grumpy Too

#11 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2020-01-23 02:44 PM | Reply

Will Sanders and Warren have to recuse themselves as they've both made prejudicial statements and have a conflict of interest in removing the president they intend to run against?

#10 | POSTED BY VISITOR_

Did they promise to violate their oath to be impartial jurors like McConnell and some of the Senate Republicans by coordinating with the White House?

Then no. They wouldn't have to recuse themselves.

#12 | Posted by Sycophant at 2020-01-23 02:49 PM | Reply

In all seriousness, here is the problem that the Democratic Mangers have, summed up in one sentence by Sen. Roy Blunt:

"The Democrats were putting forward admirable presentations," said Roy Blunt of Missouri. "But they've basically got about one hour of presentation, and they gave it six times on Tuesday and eight times yesterday. There's just not much new here."

#13 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2020-01-23 02:50 PM | Reply

Will Sanders and Warren have to recuse themselves as they've both made prejudicial statements and have a conflict of interest in removing the president they intend to run against?

They will NEVER let Sanders recuse. We can probably figure something out for Warren. *wink, wink, nudge, nudge*

#14 | Posted by Ben_Berkkake at 2020-01-23 02:54 PM | Reply

"There's just not much new here."

If Republicans wanted "something new," all they have to do is allow witnesses and documents that the WH is withholding but the thing is they don't want information they just want a coverup and it is what they will end up getting. Their sychophantic cult support will be satisfied, citizens who want the truth will not be.

#15 | Posted by danni at 2020-01-23 02:54 PM | Reply

"*wink, wink, nudge, nudge*"

Don't you get tired of all the winking, nudging and just plain lying coming from the Republicans? No, in your case, probably not. It would take intelligence to even understand why you should be outraged. You simply don't have the capacity for it.

#16 | Posted by danni at 2020-01-23 02:56 PM | Reply

Don't you get tired of all the winking, nudging and just plain lying coming from the Republicans?

No. I don't care. Nobody cares.

This is the Avatar of impeachments.

It won't mean anything until a Democratic President is fed into the woodchipper with this as the precedent.

#17 | Posted by Ben_Berkkake at 2020-01-23 03:01 PM | Reply

Don't you get tired of all the winking, nudging and just plain lying coming from the Republicans?
No. I don't care.

#17 | POSTED BY BEN_BERKKAKE

Why?

#18 | Posted by Sycophant at 2020-01-23 03:31 PM | Reply

"Too cool for school" is a popular look when people want to avoid reconciling an inconvenient truth.

#19 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-01-23 03:38 PM | Reply

Why?

As the poet laureate George Carlin once said, it's all -------- and it's bad for you.

My bills are paid, the heat is on and there's food in the fridge. Unemployment all time low. That's the story for most Americans whether you want to believe it or not.

Things aren't that bad. They just aren't.

Run an election based on that information. Democrats won't, so they will lose.

#20 | Posted by Ben_Berkkake at 2020-01-23 03:41 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Fix broken formatting.

#21 | Posted by Ben_Berkkake at 2020-01-23 03:42 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Too cool for school" is a popular look when people want to avoid reconciling an inconvenient truth.

A centrist democrat typing this should be mindblowing, but it isn't at all. #thatstheproblem

#22 | Posted by Ben_Berkkake at 2020-01-23 03:43 PM | Reply

"Since 1975, practically all the gains in household income have gone to the top 20% of households."

Vs.

"My bills are paid, the heat is on and there's food in the fridge."

^
Anyone wanna guess if this guy is in the top 20%

#23 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-01-23 03:44 PM | Reply

"Things aren't that bad. They just aren't."

45 years of 80% of households being left behind, and this guy says things aren't that bad.

Anyone wanna guess if this guy's household got left behind?

#24 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-01-23 03:46 PM | Reply

"It won't mean anything until a Democratic President is fed into the woodchipper with this as the precedent."

When a Democratic President does what Trump did I would hope so. Your unwillingness to confront the reality of the crime Trump committed, that he admitted he committed, that he provided a transcript of him committing it doesn't alter the truth of it, Trump admitted it. It was a serious charge of holding up aid to Ukraine while they are being invaded by Russia, bipartisan Congressional approval of the funds held up because Trump wanted his potential opponent in 2020 investigated. Your willingness to accept criminality by Trump speaks all we need to know about you. Ethics and morals are easily "trumped" by convenience. We got it, just don't ever pretend to actually have moral convictions about anything ever here again.

#25 | Posted by danni at 2020-01-23 03:47 PM | Reply

I see that Uncle Ben is prosletyzing the American Dream. You kmow....the one George Carlin talked about.

Do your kids believe this stuff, or have they made it to middle school yet?

#26 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-01-23 03:55 PM | Reply

You'll know all about them, your kids will be crying about picking up their dry cleaning.

#7 | POSTED BY BEN_BERKKAKE

Funny how you losers can't tell your ass from a hole in the ground but think your mouthbreathing spawn will be anything but burdens.

#27 | Posted by jpw at 2020-01-23 03:57 PM | Reply

"just don't ever pretend to actually have moral convictions"

He pretends to have moral convictions?

All I see is your basic small-minded "I got mine, screw eveybody else!"

#28 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-01-23 03:58 PM | Reply

The case isn't strong.

#8 | Posted by Ben_Berkkake

Like, wow.

Second time today I've had to say that.

#29 | Posted by Zed at 2020-01-23 04:03 PM | Reply

"My bills are paid, the heat is on and there's food in the fridge. Unemployment all time low. That's the story for most Americans whether you want to believe it or not."

See, Danni, FDR's promise of a chicken in every pot has come true.
There's nothing more to strive for, America.
Not health care, not affordable higher education, not paid family leave, not solving homelessness, not raising the minimum wage.

This is it.
This is as good as it gets.
So much winning!
#KeepAmericaGreat

#30 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-01-23 04:04 PM | Reply

I am pretty sure that the Russiapublicans are just going to pour salt on the ground and light up the flamethrowers.

#6 | Posted by chuffy at 2020-01-23 02:05

That's what's been happening. I think they hope no one will notice.

#31 | Posted by Zed at 2020-01-23 04:06 PM | Reply

>>There's nothing more to strive for, America.
#30

People have been conditioned to *not* strive for those things.

Not only not strive for, but if they so much as get a sniff of it percolating somewhere, it's someone else up to no good, trying to cut in line on their dime, and it's time to get nasty.

#32 | Posted by schifferbrains at 2020-01-23 04:14 PM | Reply

"My bills are paid, the heat is on and there's food in the fridge."

Pretty low bar.

I didn't get to be Corvette Guy by going idle once the fam was out of the 'Hypothermia Danger Zone'.
My Jumbo Adjustable Rate Mortgage didn't just approve itself because the repo man was at bay.

#33 | Posted by schifferbrains at 2020-01-23 04:30 PM | Reply

The case is so weak, the Repubicans have failed to offer ANY defense, LOL. Elect a clown, expect a circus.

#34 | Posted by chuffy at 2020-01-23 04:33 PM | Reply

FDR's promise of a chicken in every pot has come true.

That was Hoover.

His campaign slogan was 'A chicken in every pot and a car in every garage.' It didn't come true because Hoover's Republican policies caused the Great Depression.

#35 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2020-01-23 04:38 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Nadler played clip of Lindsey Graham saying "You don't even need a crime to impeach".

OUCH. Talk about embarrassing for Graham.

#36 | Posted by brass30 at 2020-01-23 04:40 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Fox News' top legal analyst Judge Napolitano:

"What is required for removal of the president? A demonstration of presidential commission of high crimes and misdemeanors, of which in Trump's case the evidence is ample and uncontradicted."

www.foxnews.com

#37 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2020-01-23 05:21 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Now Lindsey Graham is making the case that Trump can't be held responsible for what he did since in his own mind, he felt that he was doing nothing wrong. I wonder how well an argument like that would stand-up in a criminal court case?

OCU

#38 | Posted by OCUser at 2020-01-23 07:13 PM | Reply

Hey, wingers, why isn't DJT in the Senate facing his accusers right now? I thought that was a big deal for you, him being able to get a fair trial. Is he even going to show up?

#39 | Posted by chuffy at 2020-01-23 07:31 PM | Reply

How medieval:

Justin Goodman @JustinPGoodman

Wow.

WATCH/LISTEN:

"One Trump confidant tells CBS news that GOP Senators have been warned: "Vote against the president, and your head will be on a pike." via @CBSEveningNews

twitter.com

#40 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-01-24 01:37 AM | Reply

#40 It's all good:

www.youtube.com

#41 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-01-24 01:49 AM | Reply

Is he even going to show up?

#39 | Posted by chuffy

Trump would have to first ask for permission. Like the British monarch visiting Parliament, the President has to ask for permission before he's allowed to enter either the House or Senate chamber, at least if he's there on official business.

This is why they made a big deal a few weeks ago concerning Nancy Pelosi giving Trump permission to give the State of the Union Address on February 4th. There was speculation that she might hold off until after the impeachment trial, which she would have had every right to do. Of course, the President could have just stood in the White House Rose Garden and given the State of the Union. The Constitution, Article II, Section 3, says nothing explicitly about where the State of the Union is to be given, just that he must do so "from time to time". In fact, until Woodrow Wilson in 1913, the 'State of the Union' was delivered in writing to Congress. Wilson was the first President to give an 'in-person presentation'.

But getting back to visiting the Capital, protocol states that the President has to first make a formal, written request for permission to appear before a Joint Session of Congress to give his annual State of the Union Address, or for any other reason. Nancy Pelosi, as Speaker of the House, is responsible for giving formal permission for him to enter the House chamber. In fact, when the President arrives at the Capital building on the evening of the State of the Union, the doors to the House chamber are ceremonially 'locked' and he, or an aide, must first knock on the door and ask permission to enter. At that point the Sergeant at Arms for the House, after getting the nod from the Speaker, 'unlocks' the doors and accompanies the President to the podium.

I know this is an archaic tradition, but as I stated at the beginning, this is leftover from when it was established that the monarch, or in our case, the President, must first seek the permission of the people before they are allowed to enter the 'People's House', in England that would be Parliament, here in the US, that would be the House of Representatives.

OCU

#42 | Posted by OCUser at 2020-01-24 01:51 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Daniel Flatley @DanielPFlatley

White House liaison Eric Ueland just walked by a pen of reporters and said "I can't wait for the revenge."

"I can joke but I'm not that sort of person," Ueland says about his "revenge" remark.

#43 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-01-24 01:54 AM | Reply

Funny how you losers can't tell your ass from a hole in the ground but think your mouthbreathing spawn will be anything but burdens.

Go home and get your shinebox.

I see that Uncle Ben is prosletyzing the American Dream. You kmow....the one George Carlin talked about.

Do your kids believe this stuff, or have they made it to middle school yet?

Of course they do. You think I'd infect them with your loser mentality? Not a chance. Victimville is your hometown.

#44 | Posted by Ben_Berkkake at 2020-01-24 12:10 PM | Reply

Good one.

When told you're stupid make a stupid comment to confirm it.

Well done.

#45 | Posted by jpw at 2020-01-24 12:18 PM | Reply

Victimville is your hometown.

#44 | POSTED BY BEN_BERKKAKE

Like when Trump said he is the worst treated president in history or when he said he is being treated worse than the 9-11 hijackers?

#46 | Posted by Sycophant at 2020-01-24 05:17 PM | Reply

When told you're stupid make a stupid comment to confirm it.

You retort like Joe Biden running on Adderall fumes.

However, you will be given a participation credit.

#47 | Posted by Ben_Berkkake at 2020-01-24 06:25 PM | Reply

Victimville is your hometown.

#44 | POSTED BY BEN_BERKKAKE

Democrats are not the victims. They are the ones with the moral courage to stand for the Constitution against tyranny.

What do Republicans stand for? Whatever Putin wants them to stand for.

Apparent.

#48 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-01-25 11:24 AM | Reply

Apparently!

#49 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-01-25 11:24 AM | Reply

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