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Thursday, January 23, 2020

At least two of the FBI's surveillance applications to secretly monitor former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page lacked probable cause, according to a newly declassified summary of a Justice Department assessment released Thursday by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC). The DOJ's admission essentially means that the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) warrant authorizations to surveil Page, when stripped of the FBI's misinformation, did not meet the necessary legal threshold and should never have been issued.

The June 2017 Page FISA warrant renewal, which was among the two deemed invalid by the DOJ, was approved by then-Acting FBI Director (and now CNN contributor) Andrew McCabe, as well as former Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein. The April 2017 warrant renewal was approved by then-FBI Director James Comey.

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FISC Presiding Judge James Boasberg, in the Jan. 7 order that was published for the first time Thursday, further required the government to explain in a written statement by Jan. 28 the "FBI's handling of information" obtained through the Page warrants and subsequent renewals.

Boasberg specifically noted the DOJ found "there was insufficient predication to establish probable cause to believe that Page was acting as an agent of a foreign power" because of the "material misstatements and omissions" in the warrant applications.

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No wonder Durham got criminal investigation authorization, this is really bad news for McCabe and Comey.

#1 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2020-01-23 06:29 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

More FakeNews from the snowflake that is FakeLawyer, next!

#2 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2020-01-23 06:41 PM | Reply

"More FakeNews from the snowflake that is FakeLawyer, next!

#2 | POSTED BY ABORTED_MONSON "

Profound. You really told him, big guy!

#3 | Posted by goatman at 2020-01-23 06:43 PM | Reply

#3

LOL, AbortedMoron certainly can't comprehend Court Orders, can he. I know that the big words are hard for him to sound out, but I will reprint the relevant sections for him so he can puzzle over them at his leisure:

"Title I of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, codified as amended at 50 U.S.C. 1801-1813, governs electronic surveillance conducted for foreign intelligence purposes. It requires minimization procedures "that are reasonably designed ... to minimize the acquisition and retention, and prohibit the dissemination, of nonpublic1y available information concerning unconsenting United States persons consistent with the need of the United States to obtain, produce, and disseminate foreign intelligence information:" 50 U.S.C. 180l(h)(l). It also makes it a crime to "intentionally ... disclose[ ] or use[ ] information obtained under color of law by electronic surveillance, knowing or having reason to know that the information was obtained through electronic surveillance not authorized" by FISA or another "express statutory authorization." 1809(a)(2)"

What this means, for the DRtards like AbortedMoron who can't comprehend things like this, is that anyone who obtains a FISA warrant that is without "sufficient predication to establish probable cause" has...wait for it...committed a Federal felony.

#4 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2020-01-23 06:54 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

Until someone is hanging for treason, I don't really care what the DoJ feels bad about.

#5 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2020-01-23 06:58 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

It isnt treason to dislike Trump you pathetic sycophant.

If they broke statue then throw the book at them.

#6 | Posted by jpw at 2020-01-23 07:07 PM | Reply

It isnt treason to dislike Trump you pathetic sycophant.

From the context of the prior posts, not sure why you had to blurt this out...

Do you have Tourettes or just advanced TDS?

#7 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2020-01-23 07:12 PM | Reply

Posted by Rightostupid

Looks like Chief Wiggam has uncovered a real bombshell here.

Can hardly wait for the devastating results.

#8 | Posted by Angrydad at 2020-01-23 07:43 PM | Reply

Do you not see #5?

#9 | Posted by jpw at 2020-01-23 07:50 PM | Reply

#9

I did, and nowhere does Mackris say anything about people disliking Trump as being treasonous.

Are you now saying that McCabe and Comey should get a pass because they disliked Trump, I sure didn't read it that way when you posted the second sentence.

#10 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2020-01-23 08:33 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

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Jesus Christ.

There was no treason.

Even if the worst case is true and these were rammed through because of politics, that still doesn't amount to treason.

Hence the post that suggests Mackris check his piece of schit ass and do what he should have done a long time ago-STFU and go away.

#11 | Posted by jpw at 2020-01-23 09:49 PM | Reply

I don't care if they liked or disliked Trump. It is completely irrelevant.

They spied on the President of the United States, and his inter circle while in office. This is Treason by any stretch of the word.

They also Went into the WhiteHouse under false pretenses and targeted Flynn, knowingly targeting him (Comey freely admits this).

The fact that JPickledW doesn't get it, isn't surprising, he a "scientist".

#12 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2020-01-23 10:39 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

No wonder Durham got criminal investigation authorization, this is really bad news for McCabe and Comey.

#1 | POSTED BY RIGHTOCENTER

There are maybe 5 other lower and mid-level hands involved in auditing this type of process as well. I wonder what the repercussions will be for them, "written warning/last warning notices?"

#13 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2020-01-23 10:42 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

They spied on the President of the United States, and his inter circle while in office. This is Treason by any stretch of the word.

We're talking about a warrant for surveillance during the campaign.

So lie some more, schitheap.

The fact that JPickledW doesn't get it, isn't surprising, he a "scientist".

#12 | Posted by AndreaMackris

Yeah, which means I'm smarter than you.

Not a high bar, though, so don't think I'm bragging.

#14 | Posted by jpw at 2020-01-23 10:58 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

And no, it's not treason.

No more treasonous than using the power of the office of the President for personal reasons.

Which you're just fine with.

#15 | Posted by jpw at 2020-01-23 10:59 PM | Reply

"#12 | Posted by AndreaMackris

Yeah, which means I'm smarter than you.

#14 | POSTED BY JPW"

LOL That's a good one. If you are smarter, why don't you post as a smart person? I've explained to you many times smart people don't need to call names to make a point. But you have so many replies that are nothing but ad hominem.

So yeah, you ain't near as smart as you keep telling yourself.

"Not a high bar though, so don't think I'm bragging."

Good call. Not so far to fall, Pickled.

#16 | Posted by goatman at 2020-01-23 11:02 PM | Reply

This is Treason by any stretch of the word.

Except as that word is defined in the Constitution and the United States Code.

H**l, it's not even Treason for the Buffoon to withhold military aid to Ukraine thus giving "aid and comfort" to Russia.

#17 | Posted by et_al at 2020-01-24 12:05 AM | Reply

"...smart people don't need to call names to make a point."
~Goatman

"Moderhate"
~Also Goatman

#18 | Posted by Danforth at 2020-01-24 12:30 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Goatman's a troll. Don't feed the troll. I wouldn't give him a kernel of corn. He'd lap it up thinking he won sumthin.

#19 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2020-01-24 12:33 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

""Moderhate"
~Also Goatman

POSTED BY DANFORTH "

I never chastise anyone for name modifications. I'm talking about stuff like "You're an idiot".

But you knew that. It's a common theme here. Put on your hans hat and see how man actual name calling (not handle modifications) i"ve had in the last month.

#20 | Posted by goatman at 2020-01-24 12:36 AM | Reply

"Goatman's a troll. Don't feed the troll. I wouldn't give him a kernel of corn. He'd lap it up thinking he won sumthin.

#19 | POSTED BY LAURAMOHR "

And what do you call someone who you plonk but keepe talking about anyway?

'Nuff said, darlin'...

#21 | Posted by goatman at 2020-01-24 12:38 AM | Reply

Send all the FBI agents involved on paid leave for a few months. That will teach them.

#22 | Posted by bored at 2020-01-24 12:38 AM | Reply

""...smart people don't need to call names to make a point."
~Goatman
"Moderhate"
~Also Goatman

#18 | POSTED BY DANFORTH "

But if you want to call that name calling, I'll own it. I'm stupid.

Now go do your little dan dance.

#23 | Posted by goatman at 2020-01-24 12:39 AM | Reply

"this is really bad news for McCabe and Comey."

You forgot to mention Rosenstein: "The June 2017 Page FISA warrant renewal, which was among the two deemed invalid by the DOJ, was approved by then-Acting FBI Director (and now CNN contributor) Andrew McCabe, as well as former Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein. "

#24 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-01-24 12:49 AM | Reply

"Are you now saying that McCabe and Comey should get a pass because they disliked Trump"

I hope Rosenstein doesn't get a pass just because he backed up Barr when the Mueller report came out.

#25 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-01-24 12:52 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"if you want to call that name calling"

You'd rather pretend it's not???

"Now go do your little dan dance."

Doesn't compare to your two-faced hypocrisy dance.

#26 | Posted by Danforth at 2020-01-24 12:58 AM | Reply

Donkey Suit Dan unclear on the concept of nicknames, obviously.

#27 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2020-01-24 01:01 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

What do you mean, Retard-O-Center?

#28 | Posted by Danforth at 2020-01-24 01:03 AM | Reply

#24

No, because he is one step removed as the co-signer and not part of the FBI. That being said, it's not good news for him either, but he is one step removed from primary liability under 1809(a)(2).

If he is also part of this, then he too should be very concerned.

#29 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2020-01-24 01:04 AM | Reply

#28

I actually think that is humorous because it is merely malicious rather than accurate. Your nickname, on the other hand, exemplifies how the best nicknames are mostly true.

Like I said, you are clearly unclear on the whole "nickname" thing.

Must be a guy thing.

#30 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2020-01-24 01:07 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

""if you want to call that name calling"
You'd rather pretend it's not???

#26 | POSTED BY DANFORTH "

II already said I own it and that I'm stupid.

Which part did you not understand? If you tell me, I'll be glad to elucidate for you danno. I'm a very benevolent guy.

#31 | Posted by goatman at 2020-01-24 01:11 AM | Reply

"Retard-O-Center?

#28 | POSTED BY DANFORTH "

Is this where you shop or something?

#32 | Posted by goatman at 2020-01-24 01:14 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

"Which part did you not understand?"

I understood all of it. It's just a bit contradictory to accept and equivocate at the same time.

#33 | Posted by Danforth at 2020-01-24 01:17 AM | Reply

Danforth: I'm going out for a while

Mrs. Danforth: Where are you going dear?

Danforth: The Retard-o-Center. I need a new fanbelt for my coffee cup and some feathers for the skillet.

#34 | Posted by goatman at 2020-01-24 01:18 AM | Reply

"malicious rather than accurate."

What's malicious about a nickname, Retard-O-Center?

And you're pretending it's not accurate? How quaint.

#35 | Posted by Danforth at 2020-01-24 01:18 AM | Reply

DR Asylum is interesting...mental midgets who can only post with accompanying personal insults; and some who are downright sociopaths who bear watching...when their manifesto shows up.

#36 | Posted by Greatamerican at 2020-01-24 01:19 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"I understood all of it. It's just a bit contradictory to accept and equivocate at the same time.

#33 | POSTED BY DANFORTH "

I see. Then next time gather your thoughts and reply coherently before you post to avoid redundancy.

Gotta end it here. The usual suspects will start whining how I derailed the thread even though you threw the first punch at me.

Enjoy your evening danno. I know it's hard when you are always wound up tighter than an 8 day clock.

#37 | Posted by goatman at 2020-01-24 01:22 AM | Reply

"even though you threw the first punch at me."

Yeah...your own words. How cruel of me to hit you with your own words.

#38 | Posted by Danforth at 2020-01-24 01:28 AM | Reply

"I know it's hard when you are always wound up tighter than an 8 day clock."

My irony meter just exploded.

#39 | Posted by Danforth at 2020-01-24 01:30 AM | Reply

Judging from the attitude of the drudge lefties the impeachment ain't going well.

#40 | Posted by visitor_ at 2020-01-24 08:10 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Judging from the attitude of the drudge lefties the impeachment ain't going well.

#40 | Posted by visitor_

The country isn't going well.

And it's been happening for some time.

Do try and keep up.

#41 | Posted by jpw at 2020-01-24 08:14 AM | Reply

"Judging from the attitude of the drudge lefties the impeachment ain't going well."

Never had any expectation that it would but is is informing the public about what a crook Trump is.

#42 | Posted by danni at 2020-01-24 08:25 AM | Reply

By what standard is the country not going well? Economy strong, no new wars and Trump wants reduce our footprint in the Middle East. Employment strong, just about anyone that wants to can work. The only problem is that Trump doesn't have D after his name.

#43 | Posted by visitor_ at 2020-01-24 08:40 AM | Reply

Personally I think the impeachment hearing is absolutely destroying Trump and the GOP. This has been a tour-de-force of evidence and systematic disassembling of the right-wing talking points. I've been watching it. It's been extraordinary and the Democrats have eviscerated the excuses and lies from Trump and his legal team. A team that has already been caught repeatedly lying.

There's no doubt what the outcome will be. What's important will be the next Election. What's come out of this should be pasted on the forehead of every Republican that supports Trump from now until the Election.

#44 | Posted by YAV at 2020-01-24 08:44 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Amazing how the only DR lefties to comment on this thread only attack DR righties. This is a big fricking deal and it will get very little coverage from the MSM.

#45 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-01-24 08:45 AM | Reply

It's not a big deal, yet, Jeff, and I haven't attacked anyone.
It's not clear it was intentional, or done with malice or criminal intent.
It only applies (so far) to 2 out of 4 of the warrants.

All I know is the Republicans on this thread give this some meaning like it's so, so, significant are the same ones that think blackmailing and demeaning a bribe from an ally that's having its population killed in a war isn't important. FISA - so important when there were terrorists under every rock, but go after someone associated with Trump and oh the outrage. The indignity.

#46 | Posted by YAV at 2020-01-24 08:58 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

demanding* (though demeaning definitely applies)

#47 | Posted by YAV at 2020-01-24 09:34 AM | Reply

By what standard is the country not going well?

Followed by standard, shallow talking points.

The economy is doing. That's about it. The stock market is a poor indicator for the majority of people.

Wages are finally growing but slowly and not enough.

New jobs are low wage, not enough for people to get back to even on.

Debt is huge and the only reason we're still afloat.

People are shorting themselves on meds and are losing insurance coverage.

My prediction is an unchained, second term Trump will only make things grossly worse.

More tax cuts for the top, shameless cutting of services he claimed he wouldn't touch to pay for it.

Observable degradation of our environment that took decades to clean up.

And more and more brazen corruption.

#48 | Posted by jpw at 2020-01-24 09:54 AM | Reply

#46 | Posted by YAV

What's worse is they're still trying so desperately to undercut this any way they can so as to justify ignoring what we know.

"See! We're not supposed to know this! *wipes memory clean* Trump is the bestest POTUS EVUH!!!!!"

#49 | Posted by jpw at 2020-01-24 09:55 AM | Reply

#49 - exactly!

#50 | Posted by YAV at 2020-01-24 10:15 AM | Reply

It's not a big deal, yet, Jeff,

Oh, it's a big deal. What remains to be seen is whether or not this is a political scandal or simply an institutional scandal.

#51 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-01-24 12:01 PM | Reply

Still desperately seeking that once crumb of info to justify the preconceived conclusion of the Russia investigation being political, aren't you?

#52 | Posted by jpw at 2020-01-24 12:39 PM | Reply

"Oh, it's a big deal. "

As big a deal as Junior trying to collude with Russia, or Manafort giving Russia election data, or Trump & McConnell refusing to enforce election security?

#53 | Posted by Danforth at 2020-01-24 12:42 PM | Reply

Still desperately seeking that once crumb of info to justify the preconceived conclusion of the Russia investigation being political, aren't you?

#52 | POSTED BY JPW

Preconceived nothing. Read #51 as many times as necessary. I am the one acknowledging it may have only been an institutional problem. What I'm saying is it might have been politically motivated, or at least tainted by massive personal bias. I've yet to see you even allow for that even being a possibility, especially after Durham made a brief statement that from his POV (presumably due to what he's uncovered thus far in his criminal investigation that hasn't been made public yet) that Crossfire Hurricane wasn't adequately predicated. On the heels of the Horowitz IG report that doesn't even give you pause?

#54 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-01-24 01:06 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

As big a deal as Junior trying to collude with Russia, or Manafort giving Russia election data, or Trump & McConnell refusing to enforce election security?

#53 | POSTED BY DANFORTH

You get irritated when you get called Donkey Suit Dan and then go on and earn the nickname over and over again.

What do any of those deflections have to do with the thread topic?

#55 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-01-24 02:07 PM | Reply

On the heels of the Horowitz IG report that doesn't even give you pause?

#54 | Posted by JeffJ

Of course it does. Read the first post I made on the thread.

I think what we're seeing is the ugliness of our government's "national security" powers being revealed. It's not anything specific or malicious against Trump.

And that's been my position since the Horowitz released his report.

#56 | Posted by jpw at 2020-01-24 02:47 PM | Reply

"What do any of those deflections have to do with the thread topic?"

You were silent on all three, yet the discovery you're all pissed about.

IOW, You had no right to discover my wrongs!!!. Not a peep about the fact it wasn't because they weren't trying.

#57 | Posted by Danforth at 2020-01-24 03:39 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#57 And you double down. You can't even bring yourself to acknowledge that what happened was bad. Heck, you actually defend what happened, presumable because of who was targeted.

#58 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-01-24 04:03 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#56 I missed your first post until just now.

#59 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-01-24 04:09 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Gotta wonder if all these Mueller convictions will now be over turned.
www.axios.com

IOW, You had no right to discover my wrongs!!!.

Notice how we have no "right" to ask about Biden's dealing with Ukraine, while the crux of the impeachment is about this very topic.

Trump has no right to discover Bidens wrongs!!!!
~ DNC

#60 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2020-01-25 05:22 PM | Reply

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