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Friday, January 24, 2020

Ortiz faced criticism for identifying as a black man on lieutenant and captain exams for quicker promotions, and he came to the commission last Friday to defend his actions.

"I'm a black male," he told commissioners to sneers from the crowd. "Yes I am."

Ortiz appears white, but he argued race isn't about appearances. "That's how I feel." Chairman Keon Hardemon pressed for answers.

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It seems he should have the right to identify as to however he feels.

#1 | Posted by goatman at 2020-01-24 10:03 AM | Reply

Error in headline. He was suspended, not fired.

#2 | Posted by goatman at 2020-01-24 10:03 AM | Reply

If a man is allowed to identify as a woman, should n't a Hispanic be able to identify as a white without prejudice or persecution?

#3 | Posted by goatman at 2020-01-24 10:13 AM | Reply

"crickets"

#4 | Posted by madbomber at 2020-01-24 10:37 AM | Reply

Crickets because this is a stupid troll thread.

#5 | Posted by jpw at 2020-01-24 11:13 AM | Reply

I swear the woke have to be tools. It's the "United Slaves" thing all over again. Somebody very rich and powerful has to be feeding them stuff like this. They come right out and say "No borders, no wall, no USA at all" and hold signs that say "No pedo hate". Their studies are all fake. There has to be an ulterior motive for taking control of the stupid and gullible people and using them that way.

- yer Russian Asset

#6 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2020-01-24 11:20 AM | Reply

"Crickets because this is a stupid troll thread."

Crickets because self identification is occurring in a fashion deemed inappropriate by the "woke" mob.

If this individual had been penalized for self identifying as a different gender, you and your lefty friends would be losing their ---- right now.

#7 | Posted by madbomber at 2020-01-24 12:30 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 4

It seems he should have the right to identify as to however he feels.

#1 | POSTED BY GOATMAN

It's pretty easy to tell the difference between actual identity issues and a man who is lying for personal benefit.

#8 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar at 2020-01-24 12:37 PM | Reply

"It's pretty easy to tell the difference between actual identity issues and a man who is lying for personal benefit."

You can tell?

Is that your superpower?

It must be, because I can't tell.

#9 | Posted by madbomber at 2020-01-24 12:41 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

If this individual had been penalized for self identifying as a different gender, you and your lefty friends would be losing their ---- right now.

#7 | Posted by madbomber

Like I said, idiotic troll thread.

Do you intentionally misunderstand the topic?

#10 | Posted by jpw at 2020-01-24 12:52 PM | Reply

If your response will involve any sort of intentional conflation of sex and gender don't bother posting it because the answer is a clear "YES".

#11 | Posted by jpw at 2020-01-24 12:54 PM | Reply

You're so woke.

I wish I was woke enough to understand what was acceptable when it came to self-identification and what wasn't.

#12 | Posted by madbomber at 2020-01-24 01:38 PM | Reply

JPW,

I'm slightly surprised by your tack on this thread. I've never seen you as part of the woke crowd.

Madbomber is pointing out the absurdity of identity politics and is throwing in several dashes of the untenable absurdity of post-modernism.

#13 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-01-24 01:44 PM | Reply

"If your response will involve any sort of intentional conflation of sex and gender"

It looks like he's doing just the opposite. Starting with the assumption that gender is completely a social construct and it's up to the individual's beliefs, why wouldn't the same be true about race? Race is just as much, if not more of a social construct as gender.

#14 | Posted by sentinel at 2020-01-24 01:58 PM | Reply

"Race is just as much, if not more of a social construct as gender."

Yup.

Consider Barak Obama. I feel like he's been labelled as a black man by society, but would he skewered if he were to identify as a white man? He's as much white as he is black.

In this case, the officer in question even brought up the fact that he had black ancestors. So why shouldn't he be able to? Elizabeth Warren seems to have been given a pass for saying she was Native American, even though she wasn't. And furthermore, even if she were a descendent of a white person who was raised by or amongst Native Americans, why could she not be able to claim it?

What this shows to me is that identity politics are not so much an honest effort to allow people to align with who they identify as, but rather a political tool for progressives in an attempt to manipulate society.

I was glad when restrictions on gay marriage were put to bed, but also very disappointed that the same people who championed gay marriage remain some of the staunchest opponents to polygamy, even though both represent government telling consenting adults who they can or cannot marry.

#15 | Posted by madbomber at 2020-01-24 02:11 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

-the same people who championed gay marriage remain some of the staunchest opponents to polygamy

they aren't interested in the polygamy vote.

#16 | Posted by eberly at 2020-01-24 02:26 PM | Reply

Mother: "Navin, it's your birthday, and it's time you knew. You're not our natural-born child."

Navin R. Johnson: "You mean I'm going to stay this color??"

Mother: "I'd love you if you were the color of a baboon's ass."

#17 | Posted by schifferbrains at 2020-01-24 02:27 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

If a man is allowed to identify as a woman, should n't a Hispanic be able to identify as a white without prejudice or persecution?

Gender dysphoria is in the DSM. Racial dysphoria is not.

So if we're talking about what people are "allowed" to do (which i take to mean what society and employers should be accepting of), perhaps a good bar would be that the condition is well-documented and noted by a majority of mental health experts rather than just a condition that seems to be populated mostly by rightwing trolls who don't believe in gender dysphoria and use transracialism as a way to exaggerate and demonstrate their point of view.

#18 | Posted by JOE at 2020-01-24 02:43 PM | Reply

You're so woke.

I wish I was woke enough to understand what was acceptable when it came to self-identification and what wasn't.

#12 | Posted by madbomber

Pffft you should have just said nothing.

#19 | Posted by jpw at 2020-01-24 02:44 PM | Reply

I've never seen you as part of the woke crowd.

Madbomber is pointing out the absurdity of identity politics and is throwing in several dashes of the untenable absurdity of post-modernism.

#13 | Posted by JeffJ

I'm not.

But taking a documented psychological phenomena and applying some lazy thinking to it because you disagree with it is absurd.

And yes, anybody who claims trans genderism means anybody can be anything anytime is at best employing lazy thinking.

#20 | Posted by jpw at 2020-01-24 02:45 PM | Reply

"...the same people who championed gay marriage remain some of the staunchest opponents to polygamy"

I'm certainly not against polygamy, but you're aware I hope, while gay marriage had the perfect blueprint of hetero marriage to adopt, polygamy would require an entire new canon of law.

Marriage, at its legal root, is a conferring of SUPERSEDING rights to one person, like first refusal rights to a pension, and protection from forced testimony. Polygamy would be a system of assigning PROPORTIONAL rights, like how much of the estate wife #1 gets for 30 years, vs wife #4 gets for 30 months, or who is eligible for what portion of SS when one (of say, six) dies; you'd have to write laws covering every permutation.

#21 | Posted by Danforth at 2020-01-24 03:22 PM | Reply

"The real question is, 'Do you mind NOT being a Motaur?'"

#22 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2020-01-24 03:31 PM | Reply

"Crickets because this is a stupid troll thread.

#5 | POSTED BY JPW "

It's an actual story that you are afraid to comment on, Big Brain

#23 | Posted by goatman at 2020-01-24 03:35 PM | Reply

"It's pretty easy to tell the difference between actual identity issues and a man who is lying for personal benefit.

#8 | POSTED BY DEREK_WILDSTAR "

Is it as easy to tell the the difference between actual identity issues and a man who is lying to get into a woman's locker room?

#24 | Posted by goatman at 2020-01-24 03:37 PM | Reply

"It's pretty easy to tell the difference between actual identity issues and a man who is lying for personal benefit."
You can tell?

Is that your superpower?

It must be, because I can't tell.

#9 | POSTED BY MADBOMBER

It was easy enough for the Miami PD to tell. Doesn't need superpowers, just some common sense.

#25 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar at 2020-01-24 03:51 PM | Reply

Is it as easy to tell the the difference between actual identity issues and a man who is lying to get into a woman's locker room?

#24 | POSTED BY GOATMAN

Sure. Men lying to get into women's locker rooms usually get arrested.

#26 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar at 2020-01-24 03:53 PM | Reply

"Men lying to get into women's locker rooms usually get arrested.

#26 | POSTED BY DEREK_WILDSTAR "

Based on what?

#27 | Posted by goatman at 2020-01-24 04:05 PM | Reply

"It was easy enough for the Miami PD to tell. Doesn't need superpowers, just some common sense.

#25 | POSTED BY DEREK_WILDSTAR "

The MPD could be wrong and violating this guy's rights.

#28 | Posted by goatman at 2020-01-24 04:06 PM | Reply

The fact that Goatman won't address #18 is proof he's just here to troll.

#29 | Posted by JOE at 2020-01-24 04:12 PM | Reply

The fact that Goatman won't address #18 is proof he's just here to troll.

POSTED BY JOE AT 2020-01-24 04:12 PM | REPLY

Of course he is. Anyone with half a brain can see this.

#30 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2020-01-24 04:17 PM | Reply

FTA:

"I am not Hispanic. I was born in this country," he said. "That's how I feel."

Chairman Keon Hardemon pressed for answers.

"I have a question for you," he said. "So you classify yourself today as a black male?"

"Yes," Ortiz said.

"When you applied for the police department, did you classify yourself as a black male or a white male at the time?" Hardemon questioned.

"I think I put white male," Ortiz said. "Well, I know I put white male, but I don't know if I put Hispanic.


Here's the thing about transgender people. They're confident about who they are and who the aren't.

Applying for the job he put himself down as a white male. Now he's a black male. Tomorrow he could be Chinese.

Also Ortiz can be born in America and be Hispanic.


#31 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-01-24 04:21 PM | Reply

Here's the thing about transgender people. They're confident about who they are and who the aren't.
Applying for the job he put himself down as a white male. Now he's a black male. Tomorrow he could be Chinese.
Also Ortiz can be born in America and be Hispanic.

POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK AT 2020-01-24 04:21 PM | REPLY

AMEN HONEY We sure do. I'm a thin Trans Girl. The mirror and scales just tell lies that's all.

#32 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2020-01-24 04:34 PM | Reply

Here's the thing about transgender people. They're confident about who they are and who the aren't.

#31 | POSTED BY

Is that really true though?
Don't some figure it out over time?
Don't many of them go back to being whatever they were born as? (I'm not up on the lingo and I don't care)
My point is, if people are going to go along with identity nonsense, don't ya have to be all in?

I think the whole idea of what somebody thinks they are is stupid. I'm sure Ortiz does too and so he's going to be the turd in the punch bowl.

#33 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2020-01-24 04:37 PM | Reply

Don't many of them go back to being whatever they were born as?

Some do. There are a group of people who had gender dysphoria, got a sex change operation and now regret it. That they are voicing their regret have some trans activists calling them traitors. I have no idea if Laura Mohr feels that way about them.

#34 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-01-24 04:43 PM | Reply

The fact that Goatman won't address #18 is proof he's just here to troll.

#29 | POSTED BY JOE

Maybe he didn't see the post.

#35 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-01-24 04:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Well at least these stupid service animal idiots are being reigned in.
Who are the idiots that a) diagnosed these fruitcakes and b) allowed an ostrich or some other stupid ------- animal onto a plane?

Hopefully in a few years we will be dismissing this identifying nonsense.

#36 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2020-01-24 04:56 PM | Reply

Must have gotten the fraudulent idea from Warren.

#37 | Posted by bogey1355 at 2020-01-24 04:58 PM | Reply

#35 Known trolls don't get the benefit of the doubt, but your willingness to extend it to people who don't deserve it is well documented.

#38 | Posted by JOE at 2020-01-24 05:01 PM | Reply

www.nbcnews.com

The information that does exist appears to corroborate Asquith's claim. In a 2015 survey of nearly 28,000 people conducted by the U.S.-based National Center for Transgender Equality, only 8 percent of respondents reported detransitioning, and 62 percent of those people said they only detransitioned temporarily. The most common reason for detransitioning, according to the survey, was pressure from a parent, while only 0.4 percent of respondents said they detransitioned after realizing transitioning wasn't right for them.

The results of a 50-year survey published in 2010 of a cohort of 767 transgender people in Sweden found that about 2 percent of participants expressed regret after undergoing gender-affirming surgery.

The numbers are even lower for nonsurgical transition methods, like taking puberty blockers. According to a 2018 study of a cohort of transgender young adults at the largest gender-identity clinic in the Netherlands, 1.9 percent of adolescents who started puberty suppressants did not go on to pursue hormone therapy, typically the next step in the transition process.

Misinformation about the transition process
Stories about detransitioning often include misinformation not only about the prevalence of transition regret, but also about transitioning itself, according to transgender health experts and LGBTQ advocates. They say misconceptions about the gender transition process " including at what age different procedures are even considered " are widespread.

#39 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2020-01-24 05:39 PM | Reply

"Of course he is. Anyone with half a brain can see this.

#30 | POSTED BY LAURAMOHR "

Again, the profundity of Laura's posts overwhelms the DR readers.

Funny how well imbedded in this person's head. *yuck* He can plonk me, but he can't get me out from under his skin.

#40 | Posted by goatman at 2020-01-24 05:48 PM | Reply

"Here's the thing about transgender people. They're confident about who they are and who the aren't.

Applying for the job he put himself down as a white male. Now he's a black male. Tomorrow he could be Chinese.

#31 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK "

People change.

And Chinese is a nationality, Copernicus.

#41 | Posted by goatman at 2020-01-24 05:50 PM | Reply

"The fact that Goatman won't address #18 is proof he's just here to troll.
POSTED BY JOE AT 2020-01-24 04:12 PM | REPLY

#30 | POSTED BY LAURAMOHR "

The reason I did not address #18 is because I didn't see it, Joe. You are one of two people here who are big enough of a jerk for me to plonk.

Get over yourself.

#42 | Posted by goatman at 2020-01-24 05:52 PM | Reply

""Here's the thing about transgender people. They're confident about who they are and who the aren't.

Applying for the job he put himself down as a white male. Now he's a black male. Tomorrow he could be Chinese.

#31 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK "

As I said, people change.

I often tell people, and I know I've mentioned it here, I love the Hispanic lifestyle. I like their slow, easy going ways. I like their friendliness. I like their food and culture. I often find myself unconsciously slipping between English and Spanish when I speak with the Hispanics here. And I love the color of their skin. I can't think of anything more beautiful than a Mexican woman with that nice brown skin.

Though I've never really thought about it until today, yes, I could identify as a Hispanic. Did I always feel this way? No, I haven't But after 20 years living in a majority Mexican community and absorbing their culture and shedding a lot of what I grew up with, I've changed.

But your idea that people can't change does explain a lot about you. You do act like a petulant and immature child quite often.

#43 | Posted by goatman at 2020-01-24 06:00 PM | Reply

And Chinese is a nationality, Copernicus.

#41 | POSTED BY GOATMAN

Look, Goatman, if the mother ------ says he's Chinese then he's ------- Chinese, ok!?!
Who are we to say different? It's his truth for Christ's sake!

In support of shack, I'd just like to say I have have no problem with anyone calling all Asians "Chinese". Sure, it's not always correct, but there's a high probability...
I'm a little disappointed Shack didn't say " Tomorrow he could be a Chinaman".

#44 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2020-01-24 06:04 PM | Reply | Funny: 4

#44. I was disappointed Clown didn't say tomorrow he could be a -----.

#45 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-01-24 06:18 PM | Reply

Applying for the job he put himself down as a white male. Now he's a black male. Tomorrow he could be Chinese.

#31 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK "

It's funny how the right wingers used that very same argument but for transgender and were shouted down by the proggies.

If it wasn't for double standards, they'd have no standards at all.

#46 | Posted by goatman at 2020-01-24 06:18 PM | Reply

Chinese is a nationality

And?

#47 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-01-24 06:24 PM | Reply

I could identify as a Hispanic. Did I always feel this way? No, I haven't But after 20 years living in a majority Mexican community and absorbing their culture and shedding a lot of what I grew up with, I've changed.
#43 | POSTED BY GOATMAN

So, you're admitting you haven't a clue about what being a transgender person means.

It's not that Laura hung out with women until the day Laura decided she was a woman.

It's that Laura has always been a woman, psychologically.

Liking tacos and nachos doesn't mean you're Hispanic.

#48 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-01-24 06:30 PM | Reply

I'm a little disappointed Shack didn't say " Tomorrow he could be a Chinaman".
#44 | POSTED BY 101CHAIRBORNE

Oh! Me so sowwy.

#49 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-01-24 06:34 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"So, you're admitting you haven't a clue about what being a transgender person means.

POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK"

Putting words into people's mouths is your stock in trade just like snoofy. Grow up. Oh, that's right. According to you people don't change. So I guess you'll always post like a child.

"Liking tacos and nachos doesn't mean you're Hispanic."

No ----?

#50 | Posted by goatman at 2020-01-24 06:36 PM | Reply

Putting words into people's mouths

You did all the work for me as the post I responded to illustrated.

#51 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-01-24 06:38 PM | Reply

"You did all the work for me as the post I responded to illustrated.

#51 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK "

Thank for your snoofyesque twisting and redefining of a post and saying that's what the poster really meant (snoofy woud be so proud), but let's put your dishonesty aside. Do you have anything on topic?

#52 | Posted by goatman at 2020-01-24 06:44 PM | Reply

I identify as a Hispanic.

Prove me wrong.

#53 | Posted by goatman at 2020-01-24 06:45 PM | Reply

This reminds me of the guy who couldn't get hired as a cop because his IQ is too high.

As in, this guy is too woke about race. His race IQ is too high, which means it's over about 70. I'm not sure he'd lose a lawsuit like the guy whose IQ was too high.

#54 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-01-24 06:48 PM | Reply

Thank for your snoofyesque twisting and redefining of a post

So you're unable to own your own words.

Not a big deal. Carry on being a troll, Trollman.

#55 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-01-24 06:49 PM | Reply

I identify as a Hispanic.
Prove me wrong.

What's Hispanic?
The Census Bureau defines "Hispanic or Latino" as "a person of Cuban, Mexican, Puerto Rican, South or Central American or other Spanish culture or origin regardless of race."

#56 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-01-24 06:52 PM | Reply

I identify as a Hispanic.

#53 | POSTED BY GOATMAN

That is your verdad, amigo.
Nobody can take that from you.
I have no choice but to believe you.

#57 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2020-01-24 06:52 PM | Reply

I identify as a Hispanic.
Prove me wrong.
#53 | POSTED BY GOATMAN

Okay.

I could identify as a Hispanic. Did I always feel this way? No
#43 | POSTED BY GOATMAN

You could. But you don't.

I mean. Hey. If you wanna identify as Hispanic on an anonymous blog to prove you can be a troll, more power to you.

May I suggest "Hombre Cabro" for your new username.

#58 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-01-24 06:55 PM | Reply

They didn't go far enough to make him prove he's black.

They should've made him pop-lock, smoke a couple Kools, down some purple drank and see if he yells at Karate movies about sneaky ---- fighting the --------. That woulda cleared it up.

#59 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2020-01-24 06:55 PM | Reply | Funny: 3

It seems to me this cop is just a troll.
This story is a win for whites continuing to pretend they just can't understand race. And let's just throw ethnicity in there too!
Black? White? Hispanic? It could mean anything.

#60 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-01-24 07:02 PM | Reply

I have never known a hispanic goat.

Cool.

#61 | Posted by Petrous at 2020-01-24 07:04 PM | Reply

It seems to me this cop is just a troll.

Oh, absolutely.

this is a stupid troll thread.
#5 | POSTED BY JPW

Yep. But. A fun distraction from all the Trump threads.

#62 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-01-24 07:05 PM | Reply

"May I suggest "Hombre Cabro" for your new username.

#58 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK "

You may suggest anything you want. My Hispanic friends (and many gringos like DR's Jak) already call me Vato.

#63 | Posted by goatman at 2020-01-24 07:05 PM | Reply

I have never known a hispanic goat.
#61 | POSTED BY PETROUS

You should get out more.

Goat is very popular in Hispanic cuisine.

#64 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-01-24 07:06 PM | Reply

My brother's high school friends nicknamed me jefe and later on it evolved to chief. To this day they still refer to me as one or the other.

#65 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-01-24 07:08 PM | Reply

"So you're unable to own your own words.

#55 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK "

I always own my own words as written. But after you twist and mangle and "translate" them, they are no longer mine. I don't own what you've done to them,

Why do you say I'm unable to own my own words?

More clownshack games.

#66 | Posted by goatman at 2020-01-24 07:09 PM | Reply

Why do you say I'm unable to own my own words?

Because your post #43, where you admitted to not understanding who transgender people are, has made you throw a fit.

Literally your own words are causing you to have a meltdown.

Sad.

#67 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-01-24 07:14 PM | Reply

I've been known as ----- Grande and El Conquistador Blanco in parts of the Barrio.

#68 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2020-01-24 07:15 PM | Reply

Gringos eat flour tortillas. Hispanics eat corn tortillas. I get so mad when they bring me flour tortillas in a restaurant. I throw them on the floor, pound the table, and scream, "I identify as Hispanic, goddamit! Now get me some ---- corn tortillas, you pinche pendejo!"

#69 | Posted by goatman at 2020-01-24 07:18 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"----- Grande "

#68 | POSTED BY LEE_THE_AGENT "

LOL

Many years ago in the '80s I was in an airport and heard a page for "Mrs. -----, Mrs. Mama -----, please call..."

Mama, of course is 3rd person singular of 'mamar' (look it up if you don't know the verb)

#70 | Posted by goatman at 2020-01-24 07:21 PM | Reply

"Literally your own words are causing you to have a meltdown.
Sad.

#67 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK "

Didn't reaalize I was melting down.

Thanks for the info.

#71 | Posted by goatman at 2020-01-24 07:22 PM | Reply

"Because your post #43, where you admitted to not understanding who transgender people are,

#67 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK "

Well, except I didn't admit that in post 43 or anywhere

Perhaps you should wait until the hallucinogens wear off before you post further.

#72 | Posted by goatman at 2020-01-24 07:24 PM | Reply

Didn't reaalize I was melting down.
Thanks for the info.
#71 | POSTED BY GOATMAN

Hey. Maybe you could identify as a snowflake.

It's suits you.

#73 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-01-24 07:25 PM | Reply

"Hey. Maybe you could identify as a snowflake.
It's suits you.

#73 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK "

Bye, clownshack.

#74 | Posted by goatman at 2020-01-24 07:27 PM | Reply

except I didn't admit that in post 43 or anywhere
#72 | POSTED BY GOATMAN

Perhaps you should read it.

Your attempt at explaining why you identify as Hispanic clearly illustrated you haven't a clue what transgender people believe or why they identify with the gender they are.

See. In an attempt to troll. You tripped yourself up.

Keep kicking and flailing. It's all you got.

#75 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-01-24 07:29 PM | Reply

"I have never known a hispanic goat.
#61 | POSTED BY PETROUS"

Tengo el placer de conocerte, amigo.

#76 | Posted by goatman at 2020-01-24 07:46 PM | Reply

"Applying for the job he put himself down as a white male. Now he's a black male."

How is this different from someone applying for a job as a black man and then coming out of the closet as a black woman?

#77 | Posted by sentinel at 2020-01-24 09:15 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Gender dysphoria is in the DSM. Racial dysphoria is not."

It's not racial disphoria if you actually have black ancestors. With very few exceptions, a person is born either a man or a woman...dysphoria is simply a mental condition where they identify as something different.

#78 | Posted by madbomber at 2020-01-25 04:10 AM | Reply

"Here's the thing about transgender people. They're confident about who they are and who the aren't."

No they're not. Otherwise we wouldn't have this whole gender-neutral thing going on.

#79 | Posted by madbomber at 2020-01-25 04:12 AM | Reply

"It's not that Laura hung out with women until the day Laura decided she was a woman."

Laura is not a woman.

Laura is a male human in women's clothing.

That's OK, but let's not pretends that nature has been overridden by personal choice.

#80 | Posted by madbomber at 2020-01-25 04:14 AM | Reply

"The Census Bureau defines "Hispanic or Latino" as "a person of Cuban, Mexican, Puerto Rican, South or Central American or other Spanish culture or origin regardless of race."

The census bureau also defines black as: "person having origins in any of the Black racial groups of Africa. It includes people who indicate their race as "Black or African American," or report entries such as African American, Kenyan, Nigerian, or Haitian."

If this guy had black ancestors, he's black...according to the census definition. But even the census definition references those who "indicate" their race as black. Maybe somewhere else it implies you actually must be black...but not here.

And technically, we're all of African descent. That's where it all started.

#81 | Posted by madbomber at 2020-01-25 04:18 AM | Reply

"Hey. Maybe you could identify as a snowflake."

Unable.

You can't be a snowflake without first being woke.

Fact.

#82 | Posted by madbomber at 2020-01-25 04:21 AM | Reply

As a strait male, I feel like I can honestly identify as a transgender lesbian.

#83 | Posted by madbomber at 2020-01-25 04:22 AM | Reply

It seems to me this cop is just a troll.
This story is a win for whites continuing to pretend they just can't understand race. And let's just throw ethnicity in there too!
Black? White? Hispanic? It could mean anything.

#60 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

Tell that to Rachel "Nkechi Amare Diallo" Dolezal, Shaun "Talcum X" White, and George "White Guy" Zimmerman. Seems like it's okay to self-identify as white as long as you're doing so for "woke" reasons, and it's okay for the media to identify you as white if it's politically expedient...and let's not forget Liz Warren, who was stridently defended by the same clowns telling Goat that he doesn't understand race.

#84 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2020-01-25 06:34 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Gender dysphoria is in the DSM.

The DSM also still considers it a mental disorder (that's what the M in DSM means).

Racial dysphoria is not.

Yet. Not that it matters in this case, because he has black ancestors. Is there a melanin level test I don't know about that determined he wasn't black enough? Maybe he should go ask Ralph Northam what it takes to be accepted as a black man.

#85 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2020-01-25 06:49 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

The DSM also still considers it a mental disorder (that's what the M in DSM means).

Actually the M stands for "manual." But i wasn't saying it's not a disorder. I was responding to a post asking why gender dysphoria should be "allowed" (i.e. recognized as legitimate). And my response is that it's a recognized disorder (meaning it's not just something people are choosing to pursue) and that therefore society and employers should be more accepting of it (just like people need to accommodate clinical depression and schizophrenia rather than ridicule it).

Yet. Not that it matters in this case

It absolutely matters. The question was what should be "allowed" (i.e. recognized as legitimate) and what shouldn't be. I think that when it comes to things like "what's a legitimate mental disorder" that the DSM, a collaboration among global mental health experts, is the best place to start. Do you have an alternative?

#86 | Posted by JOE at 2020-01-25 12:22 PM | Reply

1 less racist cop. Buh bye.

#87 | Posted by bored at 2020-01-25 12:35 PM | Reply

"And my response is that it's a recognized disorder (meaning it's not just something people are choosing to pursue) and that therefore society and employers should be more accepting of it (just like people need to accommodate clinical depression and schizophrenia rather than ridicule it)."

Yeah...I'm not a fan.

Saying that a man who wants to wear a dress constitutes a mental disorder make me uncomfortable. Why shouldn't a man or woman be able to dress in whatever fashion they wanted to. Once it's a mental disorder, then you open up the option of the government proactively treating said disorder.

I think the whole transgender thing is a bit silly...but I don't think it necessarily represents a mental health problem. It's more like advanced cosplay.

#88 | Posted by madbomber at 2020-01-26 03:12 PM | Reply

Saying that a man who wants to wear a dress constitutes a mental disorder

That's not what makes it a disorder, idiot. Read the DSM if you actually want to know what the disorder is.

#89 | Posted by JOE at 2020-01-26 11:34 PM | Reply

#31,#32. When you signed up to the Drudge Retort originally Laura, when you still went by Larry... what sex did you select?

#90 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2020-01-27 06:21 AM | Reply

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