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Wednesday, January 29, 2020

But say it's not impeachable A growing number of GOP senators are now acknowledging that President Donald Trump may have leveraged US military aid to Ukraine in exchange for an announcement of investigations that could help him politically -- but they contend that even that conduct does not warrant removal from office or hearing from additional witnesses.

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"Republicans are arguing that the latest reports -- that former national security adviser John Bolton's book manuscript says that Trump told him in August that he was withholding $391 million in aid until Ukraine announced a probe into the Bidens -- are likely true but simply confirm what is already known.

And they are saying that new allegation, first revealed by The New York Times, is consistent with the details laid out by House Democratic managers in their case that Trump used official acts to urge a foreign power to undercut a leading political rival in the 2020 presidential campaign.

But they say that nothing in there is impeachable -- nor does it warrant the hearing from new witnesses since it confirms what is already known, they say.

"I don't think anything he says changes the facts," South Dakota Sen. John Thune, the majority whip, told CNN. "I think people kind of know what the fact pattern is. ... There's already that evidence on the record."

Sen. Kevin Cramer, a North Dakota Republican, added: "I think he sounds like a lot of the other witnesses, frankly. I don't know that he's got a lot new to add to it."

SO... no one could have predicted... well, no one other than about half the people who post here. The rest of the article is full of prevarications by GOP Sens about what is impeachable.

Let's talk about that with Constitutional expert Charles Black, Jr who wrote the book on impeachment:

"Suppose a president were to move to Saudi Arabia, so he could have four wives, and were to propose to conduct the office of the presidency by mail and wireless from there. This would not be a crime, provided his passport were in order. Is it possible that such gross and wanton neglect of duty could not be grounds for impeachment and removal?"

Or suppose the President did what most people now seem to agree Trump did in order to win an election?

#1 | Posted by Corky at 2020-01-28 08:42 PM | Reply

Whoa wait!
I thought there was NO "quid pro quo"?
That's what the (R)tards and their brain dead cult have been screaming since forever.
This nothingburger sure is tasty.

#2 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2020-01-28 10:45 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Thune added: "And I think that gets us into this endless cycle and this drags on for weeks and months in a middle of a presidential election where people are already voting."/i>

Translation: We need to wrap this up quick to give plenty of time to gas light voters into voting for this flaming train wreck again.

#3 | Posted by jpw at 2020-01-29 09:10 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

""I don't think anything he says changes the facts," South Dakota Sen. John Thune, the majority whip, told CNN. "I think people kind of know what the fact pattern is. ... There's already that evidence on the record."
Sen. Kevin Cramer, a North Dakota Republican, added: "I think he sounds like a lot of the other witnesses, frankly. I don't know that he's got a lot new to add to it.""

Last week they were attacking evidence presented by Democrats because it didn't include witnesses with first hand knowledge of the facts, not first hand knowledge doesn't matter any more. Basically, what the Republicans are saying is, no matter what evidence is produced, no matter what crimes are proven, they're voting to acquit even if they burn in hell forever.

#4 | Posted by danni at 2020-01-29 02:36 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Whoa wait!
I thought there was NO "quid pro quo"?
That's what the (R)tards and their brain dead cult have been screaming since forever.
This nothingburger sure is tasty.

#2 | POSTED BY ABORTED_MONSON AT 2020-01-28 10:45 PM | REPLY

Yes! And Blanche Graham also said that if there were evidence of a QPQ apart from the "perfect call" transcript that it would be really, really bad!

#5 | Posted by anton at 2020-01-29 04:27 PM | Reply

Basically, what the Republicans are saying is, no matter what evidence is produced, no matter what crimes are proven, they're voting to acquit even if they burn in hell forever.

#4 | POSTED BY DANNI AT 2020-01-29 02:36 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

Republics would rather screw the constitution and the country than face primary challenges from MAGAts.

#6 | Posted by anton at 2020-01-29 04:30 PM | Reply

Republics would rather screw the constitution and the country than face primary challenges from MAGAts.
#6 | POSTED BY ANTON

They're scared -------- of their feral constituency.
And for good reason.
If a MAGAT locks his jaws around one of your limbs, you're basically screwed. Unless you have some ether-soaked rags handy. You would then simply apply the ether-soaked rag over the nose and mouth of the MAGAT, and calmly count to "Twelve-Jefferson-Davis" (don't ask, it soothes the MAGAT, and cuts down on the struggle). Hopefully there's still something left of your arm.

#7 | Posted by schifferbrains at 2020-01-29 04:41 PM | Reply

I suspect that some of these Republican Senators actually believe that if Trump is removed from office that this will trigger a civil war, and they may not be all that far off the mark. From the rhetoric coming out of the people showing-up at Trump's rallies recently, this could be a definite possibility. That being said, I'm not sure that it really matters. It's quite possible that if Trump avoids conviction in the Senate, but loses the election in November, his minions may still rise up and take to the street, particularly if Trump refuses to concede and has to be dragged from the Oval Office kicking and screaming.

OCU

#8 | Posted by OCUser at 2020-01-29 06:36 PM | Reply

hahahhahahah

too ------- funny

#9 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-01-29 07:15 PM | Reply

The evolution of the cover up and the mental gyrations the GOP puts themselves through to excuse the crimes this schmuck has committed is astounding. In a heartbeat he would belittle, humiliate and throw any of them under the bus. They are a gaggle of beta cucks.

#10 | Posted by Nixon at 2020-01-30 06:41 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

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And in our next trick, watch as we make our morals, convictions and patriotism disappear!

*shazaam*

TA DA! See, now we don't care!

-Republicans

#11 | Posted by jpw at 2020-01-30 08:28 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

It's quite possible that if Trump avoids conviction in the Senate, but loses the election in November, his minions may still rise up and take to the street, particularly if Trump refuses to concede and has to be dragged from the Oval Office kicking and screaming.
OCU

LOL, like we've seen from the left the last 3 years?

#12 | Posted by fishpaw at 2020-01-30 12:23 PM | Reply

GOP Concedes Trump Withheld Aid for Probes

Does ANY rightwinger on this site have the balls to acknowledge what a huge concession the GOP just made in this matter? ---- hypocritical, lying pieces of schitt.

#13 | Posted by moder8 at 2020-01-30 12:31 PM | Reply

The GOP can say anything and the Liberal media will try, and fail, at successfully spinning it to mean whatever they want it to.

"It's quite possible that if Trump avoids conviction in the Senate, but loses the election in November, his minions may still rise up and take to the street, particularly if Trump refuses to concede and has to be dragged from the Oval Office kicking and screaming."

I really want Dems to be made accountable for the hate they are spreading. I'd like to make sure that when Trump's term or terms are over and he obviously doesn't try to forcefully stay in office, that the Dems who spread this exaggeration of hate come out and publicly state they were wrong not only in their theory but are wrong for trying to spread hate across the country. Dems have done this with the last 3 Rep Presidents and it has never happened and has never even had even an iota of reality to make it seem like something that could be a possibility. Yet, here we are, Dems are still spreading hate to ruin this country because they don't like that other people have different opinions than they do. It's not going to stop until Dems control what everyone is allowed to think and do.

#14 | Posted by humtake at 2020-01-30 12:40 PM | Reply

Humtake, what you post in #14 would not be nearly as funny if we had not just completed 8 years of baseless rightwing attacks on Obama and HRC. Keep chokin' that chicken.

#15 | Posted by moder8 at 2020-01-30 12:43 PM | Reply

GOP Concedes Trump Withheld Aid for Probes

Who was Trump trying to probe?

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

#16 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-01-30 03:59 PM | Reply

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