Drudge Retort: The Other Side of the News
Wednesday, February 05, 2020

On late Saturday evening (Feb. 1), Tencent, on its webpage titled "Epidemic Situation Tracker," showed confirmed cases of novel coronavirus (2019nCoV) in China as standing at 154,023, 10 times the official figure at the time. It listed the number of suspected cases as 79,808, four times the official figure.

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Conspiracy theory nonsense.

Why would a government as controlling as Beijing send the correct numbers if they did know them?

The final paragraph is just stupid.

The test is PCR based. A diagnostic lab with a qPCR machine can run it as the reagents are easy to get and primers can be produced en masse in a matter of a day. Less is the case of an emergency.

The claim about doctors claiming other causes of death is just more conspiracy theory nonsense.

The right is defined by the intellectual rot plaguing it now.

#1 | Posted by jpw at 2020-02-05 09:14 PM | Reply

#1 | POSTED BY JPW

Why am I not surprised that the drunken fool JPW is defending his communist overlords? For what it is worth, I am hoping JPW is correct in his assessment for the first time in his life. That douche is wrong more than Krugman.

#2 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2020-02-05 10:08 PM | Reply

LOL

You post conspiracy theory trash and accuse me of being wrong.

Take that brain mush you somehow manage to breathe with and shove it up your ass. Dipschit.

#3 | Posted by jpw at 2020-02-05 10:37 PM | Reply

Why am I not surprised that the drunken fool JPW is defending his communist overlords?

Because you're a dipschit coated dipschit with dipschit filling?

You're posting conspiracy theory garbage as a break from your usual lies and dishonest bullschit.

F--- off loser.

#4 | Posted by jpw at 2020-02-05 10:42 PM | Reply

Because you're a dipschit coated dipschit with dipschit filling?

POSTED BY JPW AT 2020-02-05 10:42 PM | REPLY

Sounds like a "chocolate" twinkie stuck up his hinesy.

#5 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2020-02-05 10:50 PM | Reply

"You post conspiracy theory trash
#3 | POSTED BY JPW"

Lol...this from the guy claiming everyone is a Russian. What a -------.

#6 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2020-02-06 12:20 AM | Reply

Lol...this from the guy claiming everyone is a Russian. What a -------.

#6 | POSTED BY IRAGOLDBERG

Apparently your break from lies is over.

You can't even see that the article you posted is devoid of any supporting evidence but want to argue everything and want to argue everything but that fact.

Just STFU and go away you worthless sack of schit.

#7 | Posted by jpw at 2020-02-06 12:24 AM | Reply

And now cue some sort of lame drunk comment now to cover for your intellectual inadequacies.

---------.

#8 | Posted by jpw at 2020-02-06 12:25 AM | Reply

"You can't even see that the article you posted is devoid of any supporting evidence
#7 | POSTED BY JPW "

This article is just one piece in the mosaic. Additionally we have:

1.) the quick quarantine of 56M people based on less than 30 deaths
2.) the videos of people passing out on the street
3.) Chinese previously claiming no cases outside of Wuhan despite social media videos of ambulances and hazmat suit where EMTs in cities such as Shenzen
4.) The Chinese government being a well documented liar

But, continue to blow that Chinese dude from Wuhan if you insist.

#9 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2020-02-06 12:34 AM | Reply

"2.) the videos of people passing out on the street"

Is it Mardi Gras already?

#10 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-02-06 12:41 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

But, continue to blow that Chinese dude from Wuhan if you insist.

#9 | POSTED BY IRAGOLDBERG

none of which qualifies as evidence.

1.) the quick quarantine of 56M people based on less than 30 deaths

If you have any historical perspective of pandemics with stats like this virus you would understand why.

2.) the videos of people passing out on the street

Are of people passed out in the street. They mean nothing without any sort of corroborating evidence.

3.) Chinese previously claiming no cases outside of Wuhan despite social media videos of ambulances and hazmat suit where EMTs in cities such as Shenzen
4.) The Chinese government being a well documented liar

Still, not evidence. Enough to suspect there's more going on than they're saying? Of course.

But not evidence of what you posted to start this thread.

Why not answer my question? Why would Beijing send two sets of numbers? If they were trying to squelch those facts, why let the info even be sent out?

It's stupid and doesn't make any logical sense unless you want there to be something more.

#11 | Posted by jpw at 2020-02-06 12:52 AM | Reply

"Still, not evidence.
#11 | POSTED BY JPW "

You definition of evidence seems to change at a whim.

I will also add that the Chinese local governments have 1.) waived the cremation fee and 2.) demanded all bodies be cremated - and the crematoriums are running 24x7. No need for that with 300-500 deaths above normal levels. This is a city of 11M - 500 extra deaths over the last 3 weeks shouldn't cause any issues with cremation capacity.

#12 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2020-02-06 01:14 AM | Reply

You definition of evidence seems to change at a whim.

Show me how.

Because it doesn't.

As for the rest. LOL

You're pointing to conspiracy theory to support your conspiracy theory.

There's no consistency in the reports I'm reading.

On one hand you have an infection so bad it requires burning of bodies (for a respiratory virus?) but yet others feature videos where people just casually walk into the ward with dead and dying patients where relatives are allowed to stand at the foot of the bed on the phone while medical workers wear full PPE.

Please.

Or should I believe a link like this:

www.washingtonexaminer.com

Republican Arkansas Sen. Tom Cotton has called for a travel ban to China and noted that the "only biosafety level four super laboratory that works with the world's most deadly pathogens" is located in Wuhan.

What?!?!

A "super laboratory"? WTF is that? A BSL5? LOL

There's at least 5 BSL 4 laboratories (or should I say SUPER MEGA AWESOME CRAZY NOBULLSCHIT LABORATORIES YEAAAAHHHHHHHH [f--- you Tom Cotton]) that I can think of off the top of my head in the US. All equipped to deal with the "world's most deadly pathogens".

#13 | Posted by jpw at 2020-02-06 01:33 AM | Reply

The BSL-4 labs in US are in much better compliance at a much higher standard than are those in Wuhan.

Obviously, Mr. Chang.

#14 | Posted by berserkone at 2020-02-06 01:44 AM | Reply

>DR contributor "JPW" has been sharing materials with chinese communists
>become overly defensive as a result of the escaped bioweapon

wew lad

#15 | Posted by berserkone at 2020-02-06 01:48 AM | Reply

The BSL-4 labs in US are in much better compliance at a much higher standard than are those in Wuhan.
Obviously, Mr. Chang.

#14 | POSTED BY BERSERKONE

First off, that's not what Tom "dischitt" Cotton said.

Second, you know this how? You've been in one? All of them? The lab in Wuhan?

>become overly defensive as a result of the escaped bioweapon

Yeah. You caught me.

And idiots on here call me the drunk...

#16 | Posted by jpw at 2020-02-06 01:51 AM | Reply

the spike protein of ncov2019 has a receptor in ace2, or angeotensin converting enzeyme-2, which is apparently more prevalent in male AZNs
www.biorxiv.org

it's the a-z-n, -----, fug da rest...that's one way of disposing of an overaged population!

#17 | Posted by berserkone at 2020-02-06 01:57 AM | Reply

What?

That's the same receptor used by SARS.

And in the study cited it's one of eight.

In other words, meaningless.

You f---ers are beyond stupid.

#18 | Posted by jpw at 2020-02-06 02:06 AM | Reply

demanding impossible evidence
>Second, you know this how? You've been in one? All of them? The lab in Wuhan?

no, idiot. anyone who's been paying attention to anything at all knows that our standards are higher than those of the Chinese. Why would you be defending them so much? unless...

>an escaped bioweapon
Can you positively disprove this idea? The idea has been - and is being - entertained by outlets and individuals much more persuasive than "JPW" on drudge dot com.

#19 | Posted by berserkone at 2020-02-06 02:06 AM | Reply

>same receptor used by SARS.

how did this virus develop those same receptors, given its phylogenetic distance from SARS?
Bat and bird wings can develop independently, for instance, because they need some of the same necessary and sufficient components.
Seems pretty unlikely. But sure, enlighten us all on how all of these coincidences and the panicked response of CCP mean it's just a bit of a cough.

#20 | Posted by berserkone at 2020-02-06 02:10 AM | Reply

Distance?
They're both coronaviruses.
You sound like an AI that's learning.

#21 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-02-06 02:12 AM | Reply

demanding impossible evidence

Let's just start with evidence.

no, idiot. anyone who's been paying attention to anything at all knows that our standards are higher than those of the Chinese. Why would you be defending them so much? unless...

LOFL holy schit. You're ---- dumber than I though.

Yeah, my real name is Jian Pewow Dubuyu. ---- moron.

Can you positively disprove this idea? The idea has been - and is being - entertained by outlets and individuals much more persuasive than "JPW" on drudge dot com.

You're asking me to prove a negative, so I know you're not serious nor smart.

In case I'm wrong, evolutionary analysis has been done on the genome and it's highly related to other corona viruses such as MERS and SARS.

In fact, analysis pegged the most recent common ancestor of Wuhan virus isolates as early October, which is what led them to suspect the virus may not have originated in the markets.

Analysis also shows close relationships with other coronaviruses.

www.sciencemag.org

But please, post those other outlets. I'd love to see their "evidence".

#22 | Posted by jpw at 2020-02-06 02:17 AM | Reply

"All coronavirii are the same!"
go gnaw on a bat, snuffy

#23 | Posted by berserkone at 2020-02-06 02:18 AM | Reply

You must be one of the genetically inferior whites who can get HIV!

#24 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-02-06 02:22 AM | Reply

how did this virus develop those same receptors, given its phylogenetic distance from SARS?

Look at the science mag article in post #22.

Short answer-they're related viruses so they share a common receptor.

Bat and bird wings can develop independently, for instance, because they need some of the same necessary and sufficient components.
Seems pretty unlikely. But sure, enlighten us all on how all of these coincidences and the panicked response of CCP mean it's just a bit of a cough.

#20 | POSTED BY BERSERKONE

What coincidences? That a related virus would use the same receptor? That's not a coincidence...

As for "bit of a cough" you're not being honest in the possible outcomes of this virus going pandemic. Probably because downplaying it is required for your conspiracy theory nonsense.

People are "panicking" because you have a novel virus introduced into the population (meaning no previous immunity) that may spread easily and has the potential for severe and fatal disease.

Even if the mortality rate is "only" 2% (like influenza) you're talking about millions of people dying as it goes around the globe in waves. Not pleasant even at "only" 2% mortality.

#25 | Posted by jpw at 2020-02-06 02:23 AM | Reply

go gnaw on a bat, snuffy

#23 | POSTED BY BERSERKONE

Piss off idiot.

Of course it's not the same. I'll even take back my idiot comment if you can explain why!

#26 | Posted by jpw at 2020-02-06 02:24 AM | Reply

You could positively disprove the idea that this isn't a bioweapon, or an escaped vaccine, or whatever, by providing strong evidence that this virus evolved naturally and that its unusual similarities to other virii are simple coincidence. You won't, though, because you are too committed to antagonism than you are to reality.

#27 | Posted by berserkone at 2020-02-06 02:32 AM | Reply

>mortality rate is "only" 2% (like influenza)
the only legitimate comparison is resolved cases - deaths vs. recoveries.
THe only explanation for the minimization is contrarianism. It isn't necessarily gonna be everyone dies panick spanish flu 4.0, but this virus isn't a joke either.

#28 | Posted by berserkone at 2020-02-06 02:35 AM | Reply

You could positively disprove the idea that this isn't a bioweapon, or an escaped vaccine, or whatever, by providing strong evidence that this virus evolved naturally and that its unusual similarities to other virii are simple coincidence. You won't, though, because you are too committed to antagonism than you are to reality.

#27 | POSTED BY BERSERKONE

You're asking to prove a negative.

Which means you're retarded.

In any case, I've provided links to site showing analysis of the evolutionary relationship to other coronaviruses such as SARS.

It's no coincidence. Related viruses have similar traits.

You seem to be under the assumption that you lacking the knowledge means it doesn't exist.

Not the case, sport.

#29 | Posted by jpw at 2020-02-06 02:36 AM | Reply

the only legitimate comparison is resolved cases - deaths vs. recoveries.

What?

So take the % of deaths and minus it from 100. That's your "legitimate comparison".

THe only explanation for the minimization is contrarianism. It isn't necessarily gonna be everyone dies panick spanish flu 4.0, but this virus isn't a joke either.

#28 | POSTED BY BERSERKONE

Who said it was?

In fact, weren't you the one who said it was "just a cough"?

#30 | Posted by jpw at 2020-02-06 02:39 AM | Reply

>provide [any] evidence that this virus evolved naturally and that its unusual similarities to other virii are simple coincidence
I've already provided reasonable criteria under which one could argue that this virus arose naturally, that these traits can arise simultaneously, (bat-vs-bird wing argument) or was engineered for one reason or another. The absence of evidence is only due to one retarded individual.

#31 | Posted by berserkone at 2020-02-06 02:49 AM | Reply

>So take the % of deaths and minus it from 100
I want everyone reading this exchange to understand that the above is an example of deliberate misunderstanding. That was a hyphen, a " - " , in the above post most dishonestly referenced by my friend, JPW.
The only legitimate comparison is a ratio of resolved cases: deaths vs. recoveries.
A case is not resolved until the individual:
a) dies
b) recovers
there is no being "cured" of a virus.

#32 | Posted by berserkone at 2020-02-06 02:54 AM | Reply

so, let's say we have 100 "resolved" cases, in which:
80 people recover
20 die
20% mortality rate

when 100 patients have become sick, but only 1 has died but 99 are still sick and not resolved, this is not a "1%" mortality rate.

#33 | Posted by berserkone at 2020-02-06 03:00 AM | Reply

>weren't you the one who said it was "just a cough"?
to mock people who actually said it's "just a cough", yes. Just how closely are you following things?

#34 | Posted by berserkone at 2020-02-06 03:01 AM | Reply

The absence of evidence is only due to one retarded individual.

#31 | POSTED BY BERSERKONE

What absence of evidence? I provided links with genetic analysis.

All point to a this virus being related to SARS, which isn't surprising.

www.sciencemag.org

You'll ignore it again, I'm sure.

The only legitimate comparison is a ratio of resolved cases: deaths vs. recoveries.
A case is not resolved until the individual:
a) dies
b) recovers
there is no being "cured" of a virus.

#32 | POSTED BY BERSERKONE

---- hell. Where do you get this schit?

Because you're apparently too stop to do simple math, let me spell it out for you.

Total # of cases = X
# of deaths = Y
# of "recoveries" = Z = X - Y

Both X and Y are reported numbers.

You can easily calculate Z as shown above.

Now that you've scratched your head for hours and drooled all over the scrap of paper you're trying to do math on, divide Y by Z. That's your coveted metric.

Which doesn't give you dick all new information because ASYMPTOMATIC OR SUBCLINICAL INFECTIONS AREN'T COUNTED IN THE "RECOVERIES" TALLY.

*smdh*

#35 | Posted by jpw at 2020-02-06 03:07 AM | Reply

when 100 patients have become sick, but only 1 has died but 99 are still sick and not resolved, this is not a "1%" mortality rate.

#33 | POSTED BY BERSERKONE

LOL so if somebody who is infected with Wuhan virus doesn't die right away you want to keep them in active status as a maybe? For how long? If they're no longer symptomatic what then?

Just how closely are you following things?

#34 | POSTED BY BERSERKONE

Too closely, apparently.

You're making schit up as fast as I can rebut it.

#36 | Posted by jpw at 2020-02-06 03:11 AM | Reply

>asymptomatic or subclinical infections aren't counted in official numbers
wow, they don't have enough test kits to positively identify every case. In China. Visualize my surprise!

regardless of your drunken rage, the only relevant number is: cases in which patient recovered : cases in which patient died. "Pending" cases don't count.

#37 | Posted by berserkone at 2020-02-06 03:15 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Sorry, I should make that more explicit for those among us for whom ratios are more familiar; in particular, those familiar with ABV.
The only relevant ratio is the number of patients positively confirmed to have the virus but who have recovered, to the number of patients who have died because of the virus.
RESOLVED. CASES.

#38 | Posted by berserkone at 2020-02-06 03:19 AM | Reply

wow, they don't have enough test kits to positively identify every case. In China. Visualize my surprise!

What? You think they're going around sampling everybody and burdening diagnostic labs with all those millions of negative samples?

regardless of your drunken rage, the only relevant number is: cases in which patient recovered : cases in which patient died. "Pending" cases don't count.

#37 | POSTED BY BERSERKONE

Yet another mental midget takes the easy way out.

Hey moron. The point is that your coveted metric is easily calculated by available numbers.

I introduced a nuance thinking you'd like to learn something. Clearly not.

Just STFU. You're way out of your depth.

#39 | Posted by jpw at 2020-02-06 03:20 AM | Reply

RESOLVED. CASES.

If you were mentally capable of following my posts you would get why this is stupid.

I. EXPLAINED. IT. WITH. THE. SMALLEST. WORDS. POSSIBLE. ------.

#40 | Posted by jpw at 2020-02-06 03:21 AM | Reply

>If they're no longer symptomatic
test for presence of the virus.

#41 | Posted by berserkone at 2020-02-06 03:23 AM | Reply

>your coveted metric is easily calculated by available numbers.
I'd like to learn something. Endow me.

#42 | Posted by berserkone at 2020-02-06 03:24 AM | Reply

>You think they're going around sampling everybody and burdening diagnostic labs
strawman argument

#43 | Posted by berserkone at 2020-02-06 03:25 AM | Reply

>LOL so if somebody who is infected with Wuhan virus doesn't die right away you want to keep them in active status as a maybe?
I would keep such individual quarantined. I would keep you quarantined as well; you seem to have become rabid.
Are you of Chinese ethnic background?

#44 | Posted by berserkone at 2020-02-06 03:28 AM | Reply

Your government is sealing people into their apartments, jpw. Are you angry because you or one of your family members are inside?
www.youtube.com

#45 | Posted by berserkone at 2020-02-06 03:31 AM | Reply

>You think they're going around sampling everybody and burdening diagnostic labs
hahaha but with the chicoms who knows?
Have fun playing fortnite, and keep away from coronachan as best you can!

#46 | Posted by berserkone at 2020-02-06 03:34 AM | Reply

there are many more "pending" cases, but for lethality the only relevant ratio is deaths : recoveries

#47 | Posted by berserkone at 2020-02-06 03:37 AM | Reply

test for presence of the virus.

#41 | POSTED BY BERSERKONE

By what metric?

Everybody? Randomly?

strawman argument

#43 | POSTED BY BERSERKONE

Not at all based on your posts.

You seem to lack basic understanding of how this stuff works...

I would keep such individual quarantined. I would keep you quarantined as well; you seem to have become rabid.
Are you of Chinese ethnic background?

#44 | POSTED BY BERSERKONE

LOL seriously GFY.

Holy schit you're one ignorant f---.

Your government

My government?

hahaha but with the chicoms who knows?

There's no "who knows".

Wuhan is 11 million people.

If everybody was sampled NOW, and we could run the tests in 384 well plates (assuming it's one well per sample), that would be 28,646 plates.

If the test is close to what I've done, it's about 6 hours to do everything from processing samples to data analysis WITHOUT interruption.

So that's 171,875 hours of work. Which is 7,161 days or 19.6 years of NONSTOP work.

Lets say there's 100 diagnostic labs that can spread that workload out. That's 1,719 hours of work, or 72 days of NONSTOP work.

About as long as the pandemic has been going on.

Except the samples you just finished testing no longer mean anything because you have no idea if the person you took them from are currently infected.

Again, you have no idea what you're talking about.

#48 | Posted by jpw at 2020-02-06 03:49 AM | Reply

there are many more "pending" cases, but for lethality the only relevant ratio is deaths : recoveries

You're pulling this out of your ass.

All the numbers are related so you can calculate whatever ratio you like.

You seem to be confusing the relation between confirmed and suspected cases.

#49 | Posted by jpw at 2020-02-06 03:51 AM | Reply

You're arguing against nobody, because nobody argued that there are enough test kits of any kind in any province of china to get a real count, even if the supplies were replete.

#50 | Posted by berserkone at 2020-02-06 03:52 AM | Reply

Even if there were enough supplies, there aren't enough doctors to positively identify every case. What we do have is reported deaths and reported recoveries, and these are the best data we have. Apparently it's disproportionately affecting asian males, who supposedly have a higher density of ace2 receptors in their lungs, but again those are the best data we have. Above all that, we are relying on the chinese communists, who are going to want to downplay the official numbers even as they take draconian measures whether or not they are officially acknowledged. ------.

#51 | Posted by berserkone at 2020-02-06 03:58 AM | Reply

So you're making frivolous comments about chicoms and who knows.

You can't even make a coherent, singular argument.

#52 | Posted by jpw at 2020-02-06 03:58 AM | Reply

What we do have is reported deaths and reported recoveries, and these are the best data we have.

Which is all we ever have.

Even aside from the number of personnel to collect and process the samples, there are simply ALWAYS individuals who aren't clinically ill enough to go to a hospital. And although we have ways of estimating that we can't say, definitively, what those numbers are.

#53 | Posted by jpw at 2020-02-06 04:00 AM | Reply

>everyone has to be tested at all times therefore it's unknowable
>therefore you can't say anything because nobody knows anything
see, I can set up and knock down a straw-man too!

#54 | Posted by berserkone at 2020-02-06 04:02 AM | Reply

Apparently it's disproportionately affecting asian males, who supposedly have a higher density of ace2 receptors in their lungs, but again those are the best data we have.

Based on one paper that hasn't been peer reviewed.

With an N (number of replicates) of 8. TOTAL. Schit even 8 samples from Asian males with 8 samples from every other permutation might be tough to parse.

The point is there's too little data to draw sweeping conclusions from. So stop.

Above all that, we are relying on the chinese communists, who are going to want to downplay the official numbers even as they take draconian measures whether or not they are officially acknowledged. ------.

Conjecture. Even if warranted, it's conjecture.

So STFU.

#55 | Posted by jpw at 2020-02-06 04:03 AM | Reply

>You can't even make a coherent, singular argument.
the jpw cries out in pain as xe strikes you

#56 | Posted by berserkone at 2020-02-06 04:04 AM | Reply

>everyone has to be tested at all times therefore it's unknowable
>therefore you can't say anything because nobody knows anything
see, I can set up and knock down a straw-man too!

#54 | POSTED BY BERSERKONE

Oh God you couldn't have missed the point more than you did.

Just STFU. Seriously. Go crawl away into your mountain bunker and stay there for 10 years. Trust me.

#57 | Posted by jpw at 2020-02-06 04:04 AM | Reply

the jpw cries out in pain as xe strikes you

#56 | POSTED BY BERSERKONE

He tells you the truth you're too stupid to grasp.

If I told you I could sell you herbal, all natural, "organic" supplements would you pay my money and go away?

#58 | Posted by jpw at 2020-02-06 04:05 AM | Reply

>Recovered : death rates based on officially reported numbers which are certainly underestimated due to logistical constraints etc
>STFU, we don't know anything so just STFU. I'm going to be contrarian until I turn blue in the face telling everyone to STFU.
okay

#59 | Posted by berserkone at 2020-02-06 04:08 AM | Reply

If you told me you'd go suck-start a shotgun I'd certainly go away.

#60 | Posted by berserkone at 2020-02-06 04:09 AM | Reply

the jpw cries out in pain as xe strikes you

#56 | POSTED BY BERSERKONE

He tells you the truth you're too stupid to grasp.

If I told you I could sell you herbal, all natural, "organic" supplements would you pay my money and go away?

#58 | Posted by jpw at 2020-02-06 04:05 AM | Reply | Flag:

forget to log onto your alt account? The argument is so weak you need to feign crowd support, apparently.

#61 | Posted by berserkone at 2020-02-06 04:18 AM | Reply

Dude. Oh God you're so wrong in so many ways.

Good night. Thanks for the laughs.

#62 | Posted by jpw at 2020-02-06 04:24 AM | Reply

Glad I'm so unbelievably and easily proved wrong that you couldn't be bothered to do so, even though it'd take about 15s.
Good night, and watch out for the bat soup.

#63 | Posted by berserkone at 2020-02-06 04:25 AM | Reply

Dude. Like. Oh my god. You are so, like, literally, wrong. About things!

#64 | Posted by berserkone at 2020-02-06 04:26 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Glad I'm so unbelievably and easily proved wrong that you couldn't be bothered to do so, even though it'd take about 15s.

You've spouted nothing but nonsense on this thread.

I've already given you links and info that you claim to want.

You've ignored it.

And continued spouting idiocy.

#65 | Posted by jpw at 2020-02-06 11:37 AM | Reply

And continued spouting idiocy.

#65 | Posted by jpw at 2020-02-0

Does he actually spout it or does it dribble from out his mouth because his lips are slack?

#66 | Posted by Zed at 2020-02-06 11:45 AM | Reply

"You could positively disprove the idea that this isn't a bioweapon, or an escaped vaccine, or whatever, by providing strong evidence that this virus evolved naturally and that its unusual similarities to other virii are simple coincidence."

Pardon me for asking, but:

At this point, what difference does it make?

I suppose if they have a cure to the virus they engineered and then sprayed in the exotic animal vendor's shop, then it would matter...

#67 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-02-06 01:53 PM | Reply

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