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Friday, February 07, 2020

Several states and cities have already made Election Day a civic holiday, including Delaware, Hawaii, Kentucky and New York. State offices typically close, though it depends on the state whether employees are entitled to paid time off to vote.

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Brilliant!

If you want elections to be a big deal make it a holiday!

#1 | Posted by Tor at 2020-02-07 04:36 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Absolutely a smart decision.

#2 | Posted by brass30 at 2020-02-07 07:42 PM | Reply

honors Robert E. Lee and Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson as "defenders of causes."

A lot of confederate Americans are going to fill their depends with blood over this.

#3 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-02-07 07:45 PM | Reply

Over four decades ago, when I worked for General Electric, Election Day was a holiday.

I liked that because I could vote during the day when the wait time was short, and then I could put the snow tires on the car when I got back from voting.

It was appropriate to put the snow tires on in early November because I lived in upstate New York (Schenectady). There used to be a lot of snow in the winter in that area back then, not so much any more, though.


#4 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-02-07 09:42 PM | Reply

You guys didn't get a lot of snow then and you don't get a lot of snow now.
Snow tires on Election Day....pfffft. Go sell crazy somewhere else.

#5 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2020-02-07 09:53 PM | Reply

@#5 ... You guys didn't get a lot of snow then ...

Of course, it all depends upon what "a lot of snow" means.

One week there was 12" of new snow on each of Monday, Wednesday and Friday.

Everyone was expected to be at work on time that week.

I know there are areas where much more snow is the norm, like Antarctica (oh, wait...). But this was the Albany area of upstate New York.

Snow was something to be dealt with from late November through April. Hence me putting snow tires on the car in early November.

Additionally, back then it was cold there all winter. So cold that salt on the road was not really effective. Because of the amount of snow, the roads were plowed not to the pavement, but to a snow depth of an inch or two. Then coal cinders from the power local power plant were spread on the roads to provide traction. It was so cold that the snow di d not compress into ice as car drove over it. It stayed "snowy" and the coal cinders provided the traction.



#6 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-02-07 10:03 PM | Reply

--It was appropriate to put the snow tires on in early November because I lived in upstate New York (Schenectady). There used to be a lot of snow in the winter in that area back then, not so much any more, though.

I'd like to see some actual statistics showing how much snowfall has decreased in the last 40 years.

#7 | Posted by nullifidian at 2020-02-07 10:05 PM | Reply

#7

It's probably 10 years since I've seen it in Phoenix.

#8 | Posted by willowby at 2020-02-07 10:12 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

LoL

So the private sector and the poor service industry jobs still have to work, state employees get it off ...

Hilarious, talk about poor voter suppression.

#9 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2020-02-07 10:40 PM | Reply

The title of this bill is "Get Out the Government Employees Vote Act"

In other words, democrat votes.

#10 | Posted by nullifidian at 2020-02-07 10:47 PM | Reply

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lol

GOPhers don't want government employees to vote because they seem to overwhelmingly vote Democrat.
GOPhers don't want immigrants to vote because they seem to overwhelmingly vote Democrat.
GOPhers don't want college educated people to vote because they seem to overwhelmingly vote Democrat.
GOPhers don't want Black or Brown people to vote because they seem to overwhelmingly vote Democrat.
GOPhers don't want the "elite" to vote because they seem to overwhelmingly vote Democrat.
GOPhers don't want Unionized workers to vote because they seem to overwhelmingly vote Democrat.
GOPhers increasingly don't want women to vote because they seem to be voting mostly for Democrats.

Do we see a pattern here? lol

#11 | Posted by moder8 at 2020-02-07 10:53 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Heaven forbid people should be able to have a day off from work to vote.

Basically the only argument against it is, democrats, who would normally be at work, will have an opportunity to go vote.

Meanwhile, this won't affect Republicans, because the majority of them are unemployed.

#12 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-02-07 10:54 PM | Reply

@#9 ... So the private sector and the poor service industry jobs still have to work, state employees get it off ... ...

It is up to the individual companies whether or not to observe state holidays.

Personally, I think Election Day should be a National-level holiday, and treated similar to July 4th.

The Virginia State bill is a step in that direction.

Maybe, instead of complaining about the Virginia State bill, it might be more beneficial in the long run to seek a similar bill nation-wide, no?


#13 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-02-07 11:04 PM | Reply

Personally, I think Election Day should be a National-level holiday, and treated similar to July 4th.

Me too.

Will never happen, though.

Righties lose when more people vote.

So they will fight tooth and nail to keep it as it is.

#14 | Posted by jpw at 2020-02-07 11:33 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The title of this bill is "Get Out the Government Employees Vote Act"
In other words, democrat votes.
#10 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN

Well that explains your opposition.
Can't have Democrats voting, that's the key to Republican victory!

#15 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-02-07 11:33 PM | Reply

This feels like an issue that should become a very meaningful difference between the two parties.

#16 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-02-07 11:37 PM | Reply

@#16 ... This feels like an issue that should become a very meaningful difference between the two parties. ...

I guess I try to look at things differently.

Instead of highlighting what is different between the two parties, I try to highlight what is similar.

I'll admit, though, of late it has become more difficult to highlight the similarities.

And, honestly, that is a real concern of mine.

#17 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-02-08 12:16 AM | Reply

Speaking of snowfall, here's the weather page from the website of my alma mater:

www.mtu.edu

Check-out the 'records' on the 'snow-thermometer' (click on the little red circles on the right side of the 'thermometer'). Note that these are NOT mountain snowfall totals as the altitude of the city is only 643 ft above sea level.

OCU

#18 | Posted by OCUser at 2020-02-08 12:45 AM | Reply

This is a great idea.

Now, if they could reverse Citizens United, we might reign in the corruption a little bit.

#19 | Posted by kudzu at 2020-02-08 07:17 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

In other words, democrat votes.

#10 | Posted by nullifidian at 2020-02-07 10:47 PM | Reply

Spoken like a party that doesn't have a message to appeal to people who actual work.

#20 | Posted by Nixon at 2020-02-08 07:31 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

State holidays, like Federal ones are great -- for the government employees.

#21 | Posted by MSgt at 2020-02-08 11:50 AM | Reply

"State holidays, like Federal ones are great -- for the government employees."

Great for schoolchildren too.
Don't be such a grump.
Don't be jealous either, you were a government employee once!

#22 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-02-08 12:59 PM | Reply

Voting by mail in Oregon eliminates all these problems.. 20 years here and I never seen a line waiting to vote.

#23 | Posted by 503jc69 at 2020-02-08 11:03 PM | Reply

And here in California, I've been voting by mail for more 20 years now. It used to be something that you had to sigh-up for (since my job took me on the road a lot, it was very convenient when they started to allow people to sign-up as 'permanent' absentee voters), but starting in March, for the upcoming presidential primary, every registered voter in the state of California is going to automatically get a 'vote-by-mail' ballot (we got ours yesterday).

I suspect that this should help to increase the level of voter participation, which is good thing for everyone. Well, almost everyone ;-)

OCU

#24 | Posted by OCUser at 2020-02-09 01:27 AM | Reply

"I'd like to see some actual statistics showing how much snowfall has decreased in the last 40 years."

Were I lamplighter, I would tell Nulli to go F himself with his demand of statistics. A*****e! The one word descriptor for Nulli and others like him.

#25 | Posted by danni at 2020-02-09 11:37 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

--I would tell Nulli to go F himself with his demand of statistics. A*****e!

Yeah, we don't need actual facts to prove an assertion. Feelings and anecdotes will suffice. Only we ------ insist on empirical evidence.

#26 | Posted by nullifidian at 2020-02-09 11:42 AM | Reply

"LoL
So the private sector and the poor service industry jobs still have to work, state employees get it off ...
Hilarious, talk about poor voter suppression."

Virginia did what they could now the onus is on Congress to do the same thing...make election day a National Holiday equal to or even more important than any other because it is the one day we actually exercise our rights as free citizens. It is the one day that seperates us from nations where democracy has been supplanted by dictatorships. That should matter to all Americans and shouldn't be considered partisan....if it seems partisan to you then you need to examine your own actual patriotism. You can't be patriotic in America without believing in the actual wisdom of the people to choose their own leaders without voter suppression, etc. If you do believe in voter suppression, even secretly, then you are not patriotic. Quite honestly, the Republican Party encourages people to distrust democracy enough to support voter suppression. That's the real truth about your Party and you Republicans. You know it, we all know it, but you just think you can disguise it and yourself with patriotic pins on your lapels, guess what, that ain't fooling anyone.

#27 | Posted by danni at 2020-02-09 11:45 AM | Reply

"Yeah, we don't need actual facts to prove an assertion."

No we don't, we have Lamplighter's words, why would ha lie about that? You really are an a*****e!

#28 | Posted by danni at 2020-02-09 11:47 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

So the private sector and the poor service industry jobs still have to work, state employees get it off ...
Hilarious, talk about poor voter suppression.

You're right; those private corporations are suppressing their employees'votes. It should be a mandatory holiday for every single American.

You'd probably find a reason to bitch about that too.

#29 | Posted by JOE at 2020-02-09 11:49 AM | Reply

You can give Virginians the entire week off to vote, and democrats will still be unable to find an ID or a ride to the polls.

Anything that requires them to prove who they are or report to a specific location within their district disrupts their plans for assimilation.

#30 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2020-02-09 11:56 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

National elections should be a national holiday. And state elections a state holiday.

#31 | Posted by ABH at 2020-02-09 12:54 PM | Reply

But they aren't, because that would be bad for one party and good for the other party.

So the parties will never agree on it.

#32 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-02-09 12:58 PM | Reply

I know there are areas where much more snow is the norm, like Antarctica (oh, wait...). - #6 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-02-07 10:03 PM
NASA says that snow has never been the norm in Antarctica.
"Antarctica is a desert. It does not rain or snow a lot there."
www.nasa.gov

#33 | Posted by Avigdore at 2020-02-09 01:43 PM | Reply

Voters should be paid $10,000 for voting.
That would bring out the vote. It would prove that finding a way to vote can be done.

Shortly after, the govt will know who voted more than once.

#34 | Posted by Petrous at 2020-02-09 03:31 PM | Reply

Actually, voting should pay a living wage.

#35 | Posted by Petrous at 2020-02-09 03:32 PM | Reply

Voting should be required to maintain access to government benefits.

#36 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-02-09 07:28 PM | Reply

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