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Wednesday, February 12, 2020

Bob Bauer: Why did the Stone matter so clearly warrant resignation? The president has used Twitter to denounce and pressure department officials, senior administration lawyers and the Mueller team. When he did that to Attorney General Jeff Sessions, his deputy attorney general, Rod Rosenstein, and the special counsel Robert Mueller, they stuck it out.

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Finally!

A juror was a far-left crazy allowed be juror by a far-left crazy Judge.

God Bless Trump!

#1 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2020-02-12 11:31 PM | Reply

#1

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#2 | Posted by Corky at 2020-02-12 11:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

A juror on the Roger Stone trial said she wants to "stand up" for the four prosecutors who withdrew from the case in response to their sentencing recommendation being changed by DOJ leadership. She wrote on Facebook that she "can't keep quiet any longer."
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Ouch ...

#3 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2020-02-12 11:56 PM | Reply

#2 | POSTED BY CORKY

FYI DON'T CLICK ON CORKY'S LINK imgflip is a known virus site.

#4 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2020-02-12 11:57 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Question: "Some Republicans have said they had hoped you'd learn a lesson from impeachment. What lesson did you learn?"

President Trump: "That the Democrats are crooked."
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God Bless Trump!

#5 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2020-02-13 12:00 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Trump must have dementia, since he campaigned on that in 2016, and now he's just learning it for the first time... again.

#6 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-02-13 12:02 AM | Reply

1/6 Attached are excerpts from an Oct 2016 WSJ article reporting that the Obama DOJ repeatedly kept choking off FOUR existing investigations into the @ClintonFdn. DOJ told the FBI not to use any real investigative tools such as grand juries and subpoenas. Read the scrren grabs:
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Barr will be on this shortly ... hopefully "OUT OF CONTROL" ...

#7 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2020-02-13 12:22 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

#6 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

Yeah thats it.

#8 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2020-02-13 12:23 AM | Reply

- Trump must have dementia

He has Mattress?

Yes, obviously.

#9 | Posted by Corky at 2020-02-13 01:19 AM | Reply

"...Obama DOJ repeatedly kept choking off FOUR existing investigations into the @ClintonFdn."

Of course they did. The entire Clinton 'philanthropic' operation was influence peddling and family pocket-lining. Why are the Clinton's rich again... Arkansas land deals? LOL.

#7 | POSTED BY ANDREAMACKRIS

That would be hilarious. Corky would go on a deflection and STS bender.

#10 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2020-02-13 01:54 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

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Do you realize that even if you assume the absolute worst about the Obama Justice Department's involvement in the situations you mentioned, they are not remotely similar to the Trump/Stone situation?

Show me an example of Obama, or anyone else, leaning on his own AG to reject the sentencing guidelines established by the U.S Sentencing Commission in order to protect one of his own cronies who has already been convicted of serious crimes. Or shut up.

#11 | Posted by anton at 2020-02-13 05:41 AM | Reply

"Some Republicans have said they had hoped you'd learn a lesson from impeachment. "

Let's start with this:

Trump doesn't learn learns. He teaches them.

Now that the gate has been opened and the demon dogs have been released to wreak Trump's revenge , it's open season

Is Trump demented? . . . of course he's demented. In fact, if we knew what was going on in his head it would turn our hair gray.

#12 | Posted by Twinpac at 2020-02-13 06:35 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Show me an example of Obama, or anyone else, leaning on his own AG to reject the sentencing guidelines established by the U.S Sentencing Commission in order to protect one of his own cronies who has already been convicted of serious crimes. Or shut up.

#11 | Posted by anton at 2020-02-1

ANDREA wants the dictatorship, ANDREA loves the dictator. There won't be any damage Trump does to the rule of law that ANDREA opposes, and finds some way to defend. He's not the only one of his kind here.

#13 | Posted by Zed at 2020-02-13 07:53 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#3 | Posted by AndreaMackris

A few old Twitter post about Trump. So she has opinions on Trump? What does that to do with Stone's Guilt. It takes all her peers on the jury to convict. Funny thing is they all agreed. The other funny thing is his lawyers had the ability to reject her if they thought she was biased. Don't tell me they weren't looking at her social media. In a case like this? LOL Right....

#14 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2020-02-13 08:04 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#7 | Posted by AndreaMackris

If they did something illegal by all means prosecute them. Funny thing is Trumpy's DOJ doesn't seem interested in investigating them. Wonder why? Could be nothing there? His rabid base would be all over it. Uuuuge boost and not just for his ego or on the other hand all for his ego?

#15 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2020-02-13 08:07 AM | Reply

"Why are the Clinton's rich again... Arkansas land deals?"

"(CNN)Hillary Clinton and her husband, former President Bill Clinton, combined to earn more than $153 million in paid speeches from 2001 until Hillary Clinton launched her presidential campaign last spring, a CNN analysis shows.

In total, the two gave 729 speeches from February 2001 until May, receiving an average payday of $210,795 for each address. The two also reported at least $7.7 million for at least 39 speeches to big banks, including Goldman Sachs and UBS, with Hillary Clinton, the Democratic 2016 front-runner, collecting at least $1.8 million for at least eight speeches to big banks."

www.cnn.com

You may not like what they do though Republicans do the exact same things but it isn't illegal.

#16 | Posted by danni at 2020-02-13 08:20 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Do you realize that even if you assume the absolute worst about the Obama Justice Department's involvement in the situations you mentioned, they are not remotely similar to the Trump/Stone situation?

Show me an example of Obama, or anyone else, leaning on his own AG to reject the sentencing guidelines established by the U.S Sentencing Commission in order to protect one of his own cronies who has already been convicted of serious crimes. Or shut up.

#11 | POSTED BY ANTON

Since you brought it up...first order of business was to drop the voter intimidation case against a couple of Black Panthers. I'm not talking about letting the case play out and then, once convicted, maneuver for a reduced sentence, I'm talking about dropping the case altogether.

Then, the Hillary email thingy - 10-fold more abusive than this. Not even in the same ballpark. That thing was like giving a foot massage to Marcellus Wallace's wife.

#17 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-02-13 08:21 AM | Reply

" I'm not talking about letting the case play out and then, once convicted, maneuver for a reduced sentence, I'm talking about dropping the case altogether."

They stood there and didn't do anything to anyone.

"According to the timeline and testimony before the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights, the decision not to criminally charge the New Black Panthers was made during the Bush administration."

www.jacksonville.com

#18 | Posted by danni at 2020-02-13 08:52 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

I'm glad we're doing something about this out of control Attorney General. Eric Holder must be stopped...
--The usual suspects

#19 | Posted by catdog at 2020-02-13 09:04 AM | Reply

Thanks, Danni for pointing out the facts.

But, regardless, prosecutorial discretion is a bedrock principle is our legal system. Sometimes I like it, sometimes I don't.

Leaning on the AG to do a favor for your convicted ------- friend isn't so principled and should outrage the "drain the swamp" crowd and those who are all bent out of shape about corruption " in Ukraine.

#20 | Posted by anton at 2020-02-13 09:19 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#17 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-02-13

JEFF says he will oppose Trump when Trump defies a Court order.

Let me tell you what will happen:

Trump will began spreading some sort of Deep State conspiracy he argues eliminates the legitimacy of Court orders.

Pretty much as he did for sentencing guidelines before Stone could be punished.

The Trumpites will eat it all up, again.

JEFF will then say he will oppose Trump when Trump's Justice Department issues arrest warrants for Trump's political enemies.

#21 | Posted by Zed at 2020-02-13 09:32 AM | Reply

#21 That post is simply bizarre, Zed.

#22 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-02-13 09:33 AM | Reply

Since Trump is so concerned about unjust sentences, when is he going to apologize to the Central Park Five (who just happened to be African American and Latino) for calling for their executions even after the actual rapist confessed?

#23 | Posted by anton at 2020-02-13 09:34 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#21 That post is simply bizarre, Zed.

#22 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-02-1

There is nothing from Trump's history that makes it bizarre, JEFF.

#24 | Posted by Zed at 2020-02-13 09:34 AM | Reply

As a matter of fact, Donald Trump seems progressively to do each and every dictatorial thing we'd said he'd do, starting four years ago.

And his ducklings follow after.

#25 | Posted by Zed at 2020-02-13 09:35 AM | Reply

As a matter of fact, Donald Trump seems progressively to do each and every dictatorial thing we'd said he'd do, starting four years ago.
And his ducklings follow after.

#25 | POSTED BY ZED AT 2020-02-13 09:35 AM | REPLY | FLAG:

He's going to learn his lesson any moment, though, according to our courageous Republican delegation in the U.S. Senate.

#26 | Posted by anton at 2020-02-13 09:36 AM | Reply

What I now understand is that you can't faze a Trumpite with any dictatorial thing he did, does, or will do.

Dictatorship is what they want. With maybe some weird fig leaf for whatever conscience they retain.

That's what Deep State mythology does, provides that fig leaf.

We therefore have posters coming here to angrily denounce Stone's prosecutors as integral parts of the Conspiracy.

#27 | Posted by Zed at 2020-02-13 09:42 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

There is nothing from Trump's history that makes it bizarre, JEFF.

#24 | POSTED BY ZED

What was bizarre was the false positions you assigned to me.

#28 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-02-13 09:44 AM | Reply

When we get to the point, and we will, that Donald Trump ignores Court orders, then there'd better be a revolution.

#29 | Posted by Zed at 2020-02-13 09:46 AM | Reply

What was bizarre was the false positions you assigned to me.

#28 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-02-13

I lose nothing for being wrong bout you, JEFF. In fact, I'd be grateful to be wrong.

But you're such an apologist for Trump, and here you are doing that again today.

#30 | Posted by Zed at 2020-02-13 09:47 AM | Reply

Without even reading the thread, let me guess:

"But but but Obama"

"But but but Hillary"

How'd i do?

#31 | Posted by JOE at 2020-02-13 09:55 AM | Reply

Zed,

I responded to this post:

Do you realize that even if you assume the absolute worst about the Obama Justice Department's involvement in the situations you mentioned, they are not remotely similar to the Trump/Stone situation?

Show me an example of Obama, or anyone else, leaning on his own AG to reject the sentencing guidelines established by the U.S Sentencing Commission in order to protect one of his own cronies who has already been convicted of serious crimes. Or shut up.

#11 | POSTED BY ANTON


Comparing abuses of the Obama DOJ with this situation is what I did. I don't offer a defense for this because it's indefensible. Having said that, all that happened here was the DOJ sought a reduced sentence. In no way did Barr/Trump interfere with the case itself. POTUS has the power to pardon or commute the sentence entirely. he didn't even do that, at least not yet. It's clearly a traffic violation but a relatively minor one - like doing 5 over the limit.

#32 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-02-13 09:59 AM | Reply

all that happened here was the DOJ sought a reduced sentence. In no way did Barr/Trump interfere with the case itself

DOJ sought a 9 year sentence. The president says Barr "took control of the case," DOJ then sought a lesser sentence and all the prosecutors who worked the case quit. How you can say "in no way did Trump/Barr interfere with the case itself" is a mystery.

#33 | Posted by JOE at 2020-02-13 10:03 AM | Reply

And yes, the president has the power to pardon entirely. And he should just do that if that's what he wants to do. But supplanting the efforts of DOJ prosecutors with the judgment of the president on what should happen to his friend is a corruption of DOJ and something you should care about.

#34 | Posted by JOE at 2020-02-13 10:04 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Joe,

I agree that this was corrupt.

#35 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-02-13 10:06 AM | Reply

It's clearly a traffic violation but a relatively minor one - like doing 5 over the limit.

#32 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-02-13 09:59 AM | Reply

Ye gods, JEFF. If you believe in them.

You make my point.

#36 | Posted by Zed at 2020-02-13 10:13 AM | Reply

How you can say "in no way did Trump/Barr interfere with the case itself" is a mystery.

#33 | Posted by JOE at 2020-02-13 10:03 AM | Reply | Flag:

Not really.

#37 | Posted by Zed at 2020-02-13 10:14 AM | Reply

all the prosecutors who worked the case quit.

All Democrats!

We will find it not much different than the FISA warrants. Mueller team probably even lied.

Mueller Prosecutors May Have Lied To DOJ About Stone Prison Sentence Recommendation
thefederalist.com">thefederalist.com

#38 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2020-02-13 10:17 AM | Reply

Aaron Zelinsky, the former Mueller operative behind the "grossly disproportionate" sentencing recommendation against Stone, filed notice in federal court on Tuesday afternoon that he was withdrawing from the Stone case and resigning from the D.C. U.S. Attorney's office effective immediately. Aaron Zed, another disgruntled former Mueller operative, also resigned on Tuesday, as did Jonathan Kravis, an assistant prosecutor in the D.C. office. Michael Marando, the fourth and final prosecutor involved in the "egregious" Stone sentencing scheme, withdrew as counsel on the case early Tuesday evening but did not resign.

Wonder where the quotes come from.

#39 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2020-02-13 10:19 AM | Reply

@#14 ... What does that to do with Stone's Guilt. It takes all her peers on the jury to convict. Funny thing is they all agreed. The other funny thing is his lawyers had the ability to reject her if they thought she was biased. ...

At the risk of channeling the Talking Heads... stop making sense.

It is a tactic that has been widely used by the Republicans throughout all the investigations. Criticize the process as a deflection away from the facts and evidence they cannot disprove.


#40 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-02-13 10:22 AM | Reply

21 That post is simply bizarre, Zed.

#22 | POSTED BY JEFFJ A

Not really. You always claim opposition in one post then spend the next fifty defending and deflecting for Trump.

This has been pointed out to you many times by multiple posters.

Why else do you think I cast you in the role of the upset, obtuse German?

#41 | Posted by jpw at 2020-02-13 10:45 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Jpw either Jeff is a troll or has some serious cognitive dissonance
I lean towards troll

#42 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-02-13 10:57 AM | Reply

"Jpw either Jeff is a troll or has some serious cognitive dissonance"

You're leaving out a third possibility: amateur sophist with delusions of grandeur.

#43 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2020-02-13 11:04 AM | Reply

21 That post is simply bizarre, Zed.

#22 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-02-1

There is nothing from Trump's history that makes it bizarre, JEFF.

#24 | POSTED BY ZED

It is clear that Humpy is doing his level best to undermine the legitimacy of the DOJ and the courts so that when he is out of power they will have no teeth when they go after him and all his crimes.

Well. Except to his minions who are in denial about being in denial.

#44 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-02-13 11:15 AM | Reply

America is facing a choice: she can be a "white" nation or she can be a democracy. Given the demographic trends, she can't be both (kinda like Israel and the Palestinians). Guess which ones the Republicans are choosing.

#45 | Posted by WhoDaMan at 2020-02-13 12:29 PM | Reply

God Bless Trump!

#1 | POSTED BY ANDREAMACKRIS

For he will really need it once he is out of power and he is held accountable and has to face the wrath of justice system after November.

#46 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-02-13 12:33 PM | Reply

#45 | POSTED BY WHODAMAN
What are you talking about?

#46 | POSTED BY DONNERBOY
He hasn't done anything he needs to worry about.

It is clear that Humpy is doing his level best to undermine the legitimacy of the DOJ and the courts so that when he is out of power they will have no teeth when they go after him and all his crimes.
Well. Except to his minions who are in denial about being in denial.
#44 | POSTED BY DONNERBOY

That was Mueller teams whole scam ... make it Stones punishment so outrageous, stack the jury with hateful peole, and when the DOJ steps in ...

SCREAM about Trump undermining justice.

Don't you see it?

#47 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2020-02-13 12:38 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

They recommended what the Federal Sentencing Guidelines call for. He was convicted unanimously by a jury. There is no question as to his guilt unless you don't believe in the jury system. Why should he get a "reduced" sentence? Why is he "special"?

#48 | Posted by WhoDaMan at 2020-02-13 12:53 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Don't you see it?

#47 | Posted by AndreaMackris

Did you see #48 above.

Damn, you are one fascist so and so.

#49 | Posted by Zed at 2020-02-13 12:57 PM | Reply

That was Mueller teams whole scam ... make it Stones punishment so outrageous, stack the jury with hateful peole, and when the DOJ steps in ...

SCREAM about Trump undermining justice.

#47 | Posted by AndreaMackris

This doesn't even hit the bar to qualify as myth.

You lie.

#50 | Posted by Zed at 2020-02-13 12:59 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

That was Mueller teams whole scam ... make it Stones punishment so outrageous, stack the jury with hateful peole, and when the DOJ steps in ...
SCREAM about Trump undermining justice.
Don't you see it?

#47 | POSTED BY ANDREAMACKRIS AT 2020-02-13 12:38 PM | REPLY

The United States Sentencing Commission, not the Mueller team, provides the guidelines.
This is a plain vanilla recommendation. What is outrageous is suggesting a dirtbag like Stone should get special leniency.

#51 | Posted by anton at 2020-02-13 01:11 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Don't you see it?

#47 | Posted by AndreaMackris

we're not idiots running on delusions and conspiracy theories.

So no.

#52 | Posted by jpw at 2020-02-13 01:15 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

All Democrats!
#38 | POSTED BY ANDREAMACKRIS

Link?

Just kidding. I know you're a lying POS.

#53 | Posted by JOE at 2020-02-13 01:40 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

That was Mueller teams whole scam ... make it Stones punishment so outrageous, stack the jury with hateful peole, and when the DOJ steps in ...

SCREAM about Trump undermining justice.

#47 | Posted by AndreaMackris

Frigging priceless. I mean everyone is lambasting you over it so here's a pile on:

I won't touch the sentencing other than to reiterate all they did was follow standard guidelines the Justice Department feels fit the crime (unless you are connected to Trump apparently).

A trial isn't a one way street. He had the ability to accept or reject jurors - both with and with out cause. Not sure who stacked the witness pool against him but hey if you say so he should have objected to it. If the venue was unfair he could have tried to get it moved. He's not some poor Joe Schmoe getting railroaded - he is a well off man who can pay an able defense team. BTW - Did he do any of those things?

So quit being a short bus riding troll-o-lo-lo. Most people here aren't that thick in the head around here.

#54 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2020-02-13 02:59 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Only a COMPLETE PARTISAN IDIOT would call the 'Mueller Team' a "scam". Total hack. Mattress will remain plonked probably forever.

#55 | Posted by moder8 at 2020-02-13 03:02 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

The original attorneys argued for the enhancement from about 4 years (AG Barr's current memo) to 7-9 years because Stone texted the guy he wanted to lie about Wikileaks that he would "------ die" (true everyone dies) and threatened to take away his support dog. They did not include in their calculus that Stone was a first offender and the "threatened" witness submitted a letter that he did not feel threatened. The range of potential sentence is 0 to 20 years, and the court has absolute discretion to ignore the prosecution's memos.

#56 | Posted by Nuke_Gently at 2020-02-13 03:14 PM | Reply

#21 That post is simply bizarre, Zed.
#22 | Posted by JeffJ

Zed is high AF.

#57 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2020-02-13 03:36 PM | Reply

Only a COMPLETE PARTISAN IDIOT would call the 'Mueller Team' a "scam". Total hack. Mattress will remain plonked probably forever.
#55 | Posted by moder8

Some defense attorney you are, M8.

The Russia investigation and the Mueller Special Counsel were based on falsified warrant applications. The FBI knew that the Steele Dossier the FBI used to get the warrants was based on "bar talk".

So, "scam" is being polite.

#58 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2020-02-13 03:41 PM | Reply

#58 | Posted by DixvilleNotch

Deep State ramblings are necessary to Trumpites, otherwise on most topics they wouldn't be able to frame a response.

#59 | Posted by Zed at 2020-02-13 03:55 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

There is no Deep State other than the one Donald Trump is busy creating.

#60 | Posted by Zed at 2020-02-13 03:55 PM | Reply

Comparing abuses of the Obama DOJ with this situation is what I did. I don't offer a defense for this because it's indefensible. Having said that, all that happened here was the DOJ sought a reduced sentence. In no way did Barr/Trump interfere with the case itself. POTUS has the power to pardon or commute the sentence entirely. he didn't even do that, at least not yet. It's clearly a traffic violation but a relatively minor one - like doing 5 over the limit.

#32 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

JeffJ,

The Black Panther case was already shown to be dismissed by the Bush Administration.

The Clinton case wasn't prosecuted by Trump's DOJ either. So that's not much of an argument for the Obama DOJ being corrupt. As stated, they very very rarely prosecute the type of alleged crime against Clinton.

But this is Trump leaning on the DOJ to help a buddy who committed crimes to help Trump.

If you can't see the difference, you might need to get some help.

#61 | Posted by Sycophant at 2020-02-13 04:07 PM | Reply

The Russia investigation and the Mueller Special Counsel were based on falsified warrant applications. The FBI knew that the Steele Dossier the FBI used to get the warrants was based on "bar talk".
#58 | POSTED BY DIXVILLENOTCH

That's already shown to be a lie.

But that's no surprise from you.

#62 | Posted by Sycophant at 2020-02-13 04:07 PM | Reply

That's already shown to be a lie.

The second sentence was accurate.

#63 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-02-13 04:13 PM | Reply

The Clinton case wasn't prosecuted by Trump's DOJ either.

The case had already been closed before Trump was even inaugurated.

So that's not much of an argument for the Obama DOJ being corrupt. As stated, they very very rarely prosecute the type of alleged crime against Clinton.

She explicitly violated more than one federal law governing the transmission of classified information along with permanently destroying more than 30 thousand emails via Bleach Bit which clearly violates federal records keeping law. She was grossly negligent and her intent was irrelevant to that statute. Instead of issuing subpoenas, which was well within their jurisdiction, the FBI agreed to sweetheart deals where only a fraction of her aides' devices could be accessed and then after that those devices were destroyed with a sledgehammer. Her acquittal was written weeks before she was even interviewed by the FBI. Key witnesses, like Cheryl Mills, who should have been interviewed separately, were allowed to sit in on her interview as "Counsel". Then we had Loretta Lynch instructing Comey to refer to this not as an investigation, but as a "matter". Throw in Obama, making a public statement claiming that she didn't have bad intent and was therefore innocent (while the investigation was ongoing). Of course, he communicated with her via her private server on at least 8 occasions, including the transmission of classified material, but he of course did so under and alias. What a shocker. That right there sealed the deal. No way Obama was going to allow himself to be drawn into her mess.

Barr's actions with Stone were unsavory but pale in comparison to how the FBI/DOJ handled the Clinton email criminality. And don't even get me started on the Carter Page FISA warrants and other aspects of "Crossfire Hurricane".

#64 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-02-13 04:23 PM | Reply

"The case had already been closed before Trump was even inaugurated."

So? Cases can be reopened. Maybe you remember that Since he never had to face a trial this doesn't count as double jeopardy.
#11 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

#65 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-02-13 04:25 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Here's a fun exercise:

Compare/contrast how the FBI/DOJ conducted it's criminal investigation of Hillary Clinton (D) with how it conducted its counter-intelligence investigation ("Crossfire Hurricane") of Trump and his campaign team.

#66 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-02-13 04:29 PM | Reply

#64 Lots of current and past admin staff use private emails for government business and some use personal encrypted phones.

What the Trump admin is currently doing is much worse that what Clinton did. She testified. No wrongful intent or damage was found. It wasn't even a process crime.

#67 | Posted by bored at 2020-02-13 04:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#66 Sure, Clinton broke the rules on government email. So have many other and current administration staff.

Trumps team were having secret meetings with Russians and lying about them.

No comparison.

#68 | Posted by bored at 2020-02-13 04:37 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

#67 and 68

I can't help you if you decide to be that willfully ignorant as to what actually happened.

#69 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-02-13 04:45 PM | Reply

Barr is reporting that he and Trump did not coordinate on this and that Trump's tweets are making his job more difficult. abcnews.go.com

#70 | Posted by Nuke_Gently at 2020-02-13 04:46 PM | Reply

Clinton broke the rules on government email. So have many other and current administration staff.

Yea. But since it was Hillary Clinton, its worse.

No explanation.

You'll just have to accept it.

Republicans don't know why they hate her. But they've been trained to.

Corporate ownership? Seems to be a positive for the Trump Administration.

Defending people accused of sexual misbehavior? Seems to be a positive for the Trump Administration.

Giving classified information to hostile nations? Seems to be a positive for the Trump Administration.

Poor response to an attack on an embassy? Doesn't seem like a big deal for the Trump Administration.

Every single thing Republicans claimed to hate about the Clintons, Trumpublicans praise Trump for.

It's an actual derangement syndrome. Probably why they were so quick to accuse Trump detractors of it. Projection at its most basic.

#71 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-02-13 04:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

#70

From your link:

Barr blasts Trump's tweets on Stone case: 'Impossible for me to do my job'

Pretty sure Barr meant: "Dimwit Trump is exposing how corrupt we are."

#72 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-02-13 04:53 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

"Republicans don't know why they hate her."

One of the common reasons is she turned $1,000 into $100,000 trading cattle.
Republicans are existentially jealous of her success.

#73 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-02-13 04:57 PM | Reply

I see it more that Barr is put in a bad position to correct the errors of the partisan prosecutors when all the Left's panties are going to be put in a bunch. His choice was do the right thing (lower the recommendation from 9 years to 4) and get your ilk riled up and have to testify, or let the partisan hit job on Stone go unopposed. He chose to do the correct thing and did not need Trump's feedback to get there.

Another bombshell that's going to blow up in the Left's collective face.

#74 | Posted by Nuke_Gently at 2020-02-13 05:01 PM | Reply

I see it more that Barr is put in a bad position

Covering up Trump's corruption, while simultaneously dealing with his ineptitude, does leave one in a bad position.

#75 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-02-13 05:25 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Trump and Barr Are Out of Control" ~~ LOL

According to Barr (today), Trump is the one who is out of control. He also said Trump's tweets were making it impossible for him to do his job.

Trouble in paradise???

This is the second time that Trump has dragged Barr's name into one of his crazy plots ~~ forcing Barr to peddle backwards.
First with the Zalensky/Giuliani/Barr/Biden crapshoot and now again with the Roger Stone sentencing.

Trump just can't seem to keep his mouth shut.

#76 | Posted by Twinpac at 2020-02-13 05:39 PM | Reply

or let the partisan hit job on Stone go unopposed

So the judge and the jury are all partisans out to get Stone? Seriously?

#77 | Posted by WhoDaMan at 2020-02-13 05:41 PM | Reply

Just the prosecutors and the foreman of the jury. Also partisans in Congress and in "intelligence" that set Stone up like so many from even before inauguration. Hopefully the judge will make a reasonable decision.

#78 | Posted by Nuke_Gently at 2020-02-13 06:28 PM | Reply

Here's just one on the forewoman's bias: www.google.com

#79 | Posted by Nuke_Gently at 2020-02-13 06:29 PM | Reply

Hopefully the judge will make a reasonable decision.

#78 | Posted by Nuke_Gently at 2020

And punish Barr and Trump for their interference?

#80 | Posted by Zed at 2020-02-13 06:33 PM | Reply

Here's just one on the forewoman's bias: www.google.com

So, are you under the impression that there is someone in the jury pool who doesn't have an opinion (and probably a strong one) about Trump? Maybe you should only be tried by jurors who like you. I'm pretty sure all criminals would love that one.

#81 | Posted by WhoDaMan at 2020-02-13 06:52 PM | Reply

They're actually supposed to be unbiased neither favoring the accused nor predisposed against them. I wonder how that juror answered the questionnaire which qualified them to serve?

#82 | Posted by Nuke_Gently at 2020-02-13 07:03 PM | Reply

#82 - you've never done jury duty and gone through void dire, have you?

#83 | Posted by YAV at 2020-02-13 07:30 PM | Reply

Save your ad hominem. It's not about me

#84 | Posted by Nuke_Gently at 2020-02-13 07:34 PM | Reply

I'll take that as a "no."

#85 | Posted by YAV at 2020-02-13 07:39 PM | Reply

Take it in whatever orifice you'd like. There is a right to an impartial jury whether you would prefer lady justice to peak out of the blindfold. a www.law.cornell.edu

#86 | Posted by Nuke_Gently at 2020-02-13 08:23 PM | Reply

nuke.

i can either believe trump who has lied 15,000 times in 3 years.

or 4 prosecutors and 12 jurors with no evidence of lying.

tough call!

#87 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2020-02-13 08:41 PM | Reply

hehe!
that's the choice.
tough when you spend your life lying.
no one believes you.

#88 | Posted by YAV at 2020-02-13 09:27 PM | Reply

Out of control was what the prosecutors were in their outrageous recommendation of incarceration.

#89 | Posted by MSgt at 2020-02-14 01:07 PM | Reply

Waaah!
They were outrageous in the 'by the book, following the guidelines exactly' sentence recommendations!

#90 | Posted by YAV at 2020-02-14 01:16 PM | Reply

Another day, another nothing burger.

#91 | Posted by wisgod at 2020-02-14 01:33 PM | Reply

#89 Yeah i'm sure you're well-versed in federal sentencing guidelines. Pfffffffffft.

#92 | Posted by JOE at 2020-02-14 01:50 PM | Reply

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