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Tuesday, February 18, 2020

The impeachment process might not have shifted anyone's view about Trump, but it did drive Americans further into their partisan camps -- and in the process, unraveled their already frayed sense of trust in the political system.

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It exposed the GOP for the criminal cabal it is.

80% of voters wanted to hear from Bolton, Mulvaney, etc and see the documents the White House is hiding.

Hopefully the voters will hold Shaky Susan, LaLaLamar and Moscow Mitch accountable for their complicity in the deceit.

#1 | Posted by Nixon at 2020-02-18 03:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

The funny thing is they blame only the politicians.

Guess what, if the GOP actually feared losing their Senate seats they may have voted differently.

But the electorate, as at least enough of it, is the very things described in the article.

And a lot of that lies at the media's feet by feeding people garbage, ie the "hearsay" talking point.

#2 | Posted by jpw at 2020-02-18 07:57 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

When the daughter of a machine politician mayor, who rose to the top of one of the two political machines that dominate the politics of the greatest superpower in history so far, says its a waste of time, we should listen.

#3 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2020-02-18 08:42 PM | Reply

It laid bare who actually supported the rule of law and the constitution and who carried water for their political party no matter what.

#4 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2020-02-18 09:10 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

What it did was show is the partisan politics that govern our country. no matter who you identify with as a party or what you expect as an American. You whole heartdly see what that was. Do I believe Trump should have been removed from office? That was an American vote, in my opinion, not the senate. people make mistakes everyday. Those mistakes lead to decay of our moral values when they're unchecked. The question is, what was a mistake and what was a test to see what would be accounted for? I could care less who is president because I know unequivocally, no one who isn't a billionaire will never make it beyond the general election. These people know not what the average American struggles with. Do I care? yes I do. not because I struggle, but I know many who do. The American Political arena is not for the average American and that's why we shouldn't be arguing about what party is in office but what ideology is in office. Thank you for listening.

#5 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2020-02-18 10:01 PM | Reply

Sorry but when a president acts in such manner that poisons the office he or she must be removed by Congress. To say wait until the next election is tantamount o saying his or her behavior was no big deal. That's one of the reasons we have a congress. As a check on the executive. Sadly Senate Republicans their oath by acquitting Trump.

#6 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2020-02-18 10:32 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Its about rule of law and maintaining the balance of power between the 3 branches. Trump is usurping powers that only congress and the courts should be exercising.

Every time he changes land use patterns on federal lands. Every regulation of pollution that he ignores,weakening the congressionally mandated endangered species act etc. By executive order he is usurping the powers of Congress and by extension the people themselves.

The founders would have been appalled,by his constant self promotion and enrichment from public office. They would have impeached
and removed him for this alone.

The MURDER of Quasem Soleimani by drone was an illegal and immoral use of the armed forces.For
this one act alone he should be removed from office.

Trump is a would be tyrant in the classical sense. Most Americans today are too uneducated about civics these days to even notice this apparently, I earlier times his behavior would not have been tolerated At ALL,by the congress,or the people.

How far we have fallen as a people is more evident every DAY that this loathsome usurper of the PEOPLES WILL remains in office.

#7 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2020-02-19 12:10 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Most Americans today are too uneducated about civics these days to even notice this apparently

Most Americans are too uneducated to know what type of government we have, what it was intended to guard against and how to know when dumb ass liberals are drip drip dripping changing how our government is supposed to function.

#8 | Posted by boaz at 2020-02-19 01:46 AM | Reply

Can you explain in a clear way, what EXACTLY you mean by that,with examples? Or is it all hot air?

#9 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2020-02-19 01:55 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Oh it's just Boaz with his usual mental drips is all. Pay him no mind.

#10 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2020-02-19 02:00 AM | Reply

I would have to agree. What little trust I had in some Democrats has completely evaporated over the "get Trump above working for the American people" mindset. They're elected servants for the Christ sake and should serve the people and not the party.

Disgusting!

#11 | Posted by Gr8Music at 2020-02-19 07:03 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The mistrust started with the fake news liberal loving/Trump hating media.
We see "Bombshell!!" over and over for nonsense that is twisted and spun to appear negative.
The People are sick of it and yes...mistrust every word and accusation as a result.

#12 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2020-02-19 08:04 AM | Reply

IMHO, This is why parliamentary systems are better. You have all sorts of parties who rise and fall. Your next election cycle could be next week and not next year if things aren't going right. etc

#13 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2020-02-19 08:23 AM | Reply

The mistrust started with the fake news liberal loving/Trump hating media.

Ummmmm Trump's pretty much flat ratings since day 1 (at about 35-40%) doesn't support your argument or the perception (ie delusion) you're living under that your views are representative of "the people".

#14 | Posted by jpw at 2020-02-19 08:31 AM | Reply

It had to be done. He should have been removed. That is all.

#15 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2020-02-19 09:04 AM | Reply

IMPEACHMENT is the 'death sentence' for any politician or judge. The impeached person is removed from office and can never hold public office again.

To watch impeachment used at the political whim of the Dems against Pres trump because the House majority Dems COULD do that is maddening.

Nancy and her legion of Trump hating Dems could have censured Pres Trump. They could have done some other method of showing their disapproval of the President. BUT they chose to IMPEACH the President, something only 2 other Presidents had ever experienced in our nation's history, and neither was convicted.

Then to watch the Dems clamor that not only was the President on 'trial' so was the Senate. Nothing could have been further from the truth. Our Founding Fathers established the Impeachment process in the manner it is so that impeachments are significantly serious matters. Yes, the HOUSE majority can easily pass the IMPEACHMENT vote with a simple majority of the House members. BUT our Founders put the HOUSE (not the Senate) on trail in an impeachment process when they made an impeachment conviction 2/3rds (a super majority) of the Senate. It was easy for the House Dems to pass an impeachment verdict. BUT then THEY had to convince and compel 67 Senators to join them to convict Pres trump. And they failed miserably .. the House couldn't even get 50 votes to convict with the help of Repub Mitt Romney and 6 US Dem Senators who all have bashed Trump and are/were running for President in 2020.

What an impeachment HOAX the House placed upon America. Sadly nearly $5 million to pay for the impeachment was paid by us taxpayers when Nancy took the money out of the Medicare funding intended for the elderly medical needs. How dastardly of the Dems!!!

#16 | Posted by SJHamilton at 2020-02-19 09:27 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#16 The impeachment as persued by Pelosi was poorly executed and FAR to narrow in scope. They should have gone after him for EVERYTHING. emoluments,usurpation of powers, contempt of Congress. Murder in the case of Soliemani. The case they brought was the weakest schitt they had.
I truly believe that Nancy Pelosi wanted the impeachment effort to fail in the senate,or she would have been more aggressive about bringing and proving charges against the president.

#17 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2020-02-19 09:41 AM | Reply

What an impeachment HOAX

#16 | Posted by SJHamilton at

Sorry, Charlie. Trump is guilty. Trump is in fact a life-long criminal and you admire the man. That being true, what's your grift?

#18 | Posted by Zed at 2020-02-19 09:47 AM | Reply

It Eroded Trust in the dems.

#19 | Posted by Sniper at 2020-02-19 09:59 AM | Reply

Trumpies have situational morality, if "Hillary did 1/1000th of the schitt Trump has they would be calling for execution". LOL. What Bozo's. They have NO credibility about this or much of anything concerning their "dear leader".

#20 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2020-02-19 10:00 AM | Reply

Now matter how you slice it, the blame for this has to be put on the American public.

It is uneducated, arrogant, selfish and angry.

The current aging population cannot move forward into the new order. They somehow think if we could only go backwards, everything would be okay. And they vote with that in mind.

This is true of both the dems and the repubs.

#21 | Posted by kudzu at 2020-02-19 10:00 AM | Reply

It Eroded Trust in the dems.

#19 | POSTED BY SNIPER

Liar. You never had any trust in the Dems.

It eroded trust in government. And in the rule of law.

#22 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-02-19 10:36 AM | Reply

It eroded trust in government.

Maybe, but not necessarily in the manner you think.

And in the rule of law.

#22 | POSTED BY DONNERBOY

It had nothing to do with law. Impeachment is a political remedy.

#23 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-02-19 10:41 AM | Reply

--It eroded trust in government.

You statists act like that's a bad thing.

#24 | Posted by nullifidian at 2020-02-19 10:45 AM | Reply

"The current aging population cannot move forward into the new order"

The sums up Hitler.

#25 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2020-02-19 10:47 AM | Reply

It had nothing to do with law. Impeachment is a political remedy.

#23 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

Impeachment is a political process for removing Caine one from a political office for violations of the law.

For violating the law.

So it has everything to do with the rule of law.

And the fact that in America no Man is above it.

#26 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-02-19 11:00 AM | Reply

And the fact that in America no Man is above it.
#26 | POSTED BY DONNERBOY

Paging Andrew McCabe....

#27 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-02-19 11:04 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

It had nothing to do with law. Impeachment is a political remedy.
#23 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

Who told you this lie and why do you keep parroting it as if it makes you seem intelligent?

It literally makes you look like a moron.

Let's see if today is a day you learn something

Impeachment is the process by which a legislative body levels charges against a government official. Impeachment does not in itself remove the official definitively from office; it is similar to an indictment in criminal law, and thus it is essentially the statement of charges against the official.

The only reason you want to pretend it has nothing to do with the law (whatever that means), is because you need to undermine the process so your boy Trump doesn't seem like the garbage he is.

The impeachment was successful. Despite Trump and Barr's best efforts to hamstring it. The HoR impeached Trump.

The problem is. Too many fkkking idiots don't have a clue what impeachment actually means or what it's meant to do.

The problem is, too many deplorables see the Senate acquittal as a failure to impeach Trump. But. One has nothing to do with the other.

#28 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-02-19 11:14 AM | Reply

Who told you this lie and why do you keep parroting it as if it makes you seem intelligent?

Sen. Charles Schumer: "Impeachment is a political, not legal, process." (1999)
Rep. Jerald Nadler: "[impeachment] is a political remedy."
Harvard Prof. Noah Feldman: "The Constitution set forth the political process of impeachment."
Stanford Prof. Pamela Karlan: "The political remedy for President Trump's acts is impeachment."
North Carolina Prof. Michael Gerhardt: "Impeachment is by nature political."
Tulane Professor Ross Garber, said: "This is not a trial. An impeachment is a political process."
MSNBC's Steve Kornacki: "Impeachment is not a legal proceeding. It is a political one."

And dozens more...

#29 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2020-02-19 11:50 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I don't care about R's. They won't be voting Democrat.

I care about Independents. And they are breaking away from Trump.

I care about getting the Democrat base out. And the Impeachment will have helped do that.

#30 | Posted by Sycophant at 2020-02-19 11:53 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

It had nothing to do with law. Impeachment is a political remedy.
#23 | POSTED BY JEFFJ
Who told you this lie and why do you keep parroting it as if it makes you seem intelligent?
#28 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK
Quotes about impeachment being a political process.
And dozens more...
#29 | POSTED BY RIGHTOCENTER

Bit dis-ingenous there, don't you think?

The claim was Impeachment has nothing to do with the law. Not that it isn't political in nature.

If it had nothing to do with the law, there wouldn't be hard, set in stone rules and Trump couldn't whine about due process in the Senate.

It certainly is a political process but its still grounded in law.

#31 | Posted by Sycophant at 2020-02-19 12:37 PM | Reply

Gawd, the DemoKKKrats are so stupid.

They knew better, but their hate over-ruled their reason.

Typical leftists, ruled by their emotions rather than their minds.

#32 | Posted by sawdust at 2020-02-19 08:43 PM | Reply

Gawd, the DemoKKKrats are so stupid.
They knew better, but their hate over-ruled their reason.
Typical leftists, ruled by their emotions rather than their minds.

#32 | POSTED BY SAWDUST

Republican Senate: Yes, Trump did it and its Impeachable but we won't impeach.

Trump: I'm hiding all the documents proving I did it.

SAWDUST: Trump didn't do it!

Republicans truly are idiots.

#33 | Posted by Sycophant at 2020-02-20 11:26 AM | Reply

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