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Sunday, February 23, 2020

Because of Trump's success in filling vacancies, the San Francisco-based circuit, long dominated by Democratic appointees, has suddenly shifted to the right, with an even more pronounced tilt expected in the years ahead.

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Really incredible ...

God Bless Trump

#1 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2020-02-22 07:01 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Winning.

#2 | Posted by sawdust at 2020-02-22 08:20 PM | Reply

Obviously the mentally impaired here feel empowered, so I guess that's a silver lining.

#3 | Posted by Corky at 2020-02-22 08:53 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Really incredible ...
God Bless Trump

#1 | POSTED BY ANDREAMACKRIS

Yeah! Let's force what we can't enact through actual governance on the people who don't want it!

#4 | Posted by jpw at 2020-02-22 09:02 PM | Reply

Winning.

#2 | POSTED BY SAWDUST

Well since you're clearly already suffering from lead or some other heavy metal poisoning (deeeeerrrrrp wiNiNG!) it may not matter to you how f---ed up Trump is.

But it does to those of us who have something to lose.

#5 | Posted by jpw at 2020-02-22 09:03 PM | Reply

Let's force what we can't enact through actual governance on the people who don't want it!

The courts don't enact governance.

F--- you schitheap.

#6 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2020-02-22 11:46 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

They do if they're subservient to the executive, schitheap.

You're either sub 80 IQ stupid or paid to be intentionally obtuse.

#7 | Posted by jpw at 2020-02-23 12:43 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

They do if they're subservient to the executive, schitheap.
You're either sub 80 IQ stupid or paid to be intentionally obtuse.
#7 | Posted by jpw at 2020-02-23 12:43 AM

At least nobody is dishonest enough to pretend that adding 10 conservative judges to a set of overwhelmingly liberal judges is going to be forcing anything on anyone, right?
Before Trump 25/39 Judges were appointed by Democrat Presidents. Now 24/49 are appointed by Republican Presidents and 25/49 are appointed by Democrat Presidents. Surely nobody is both stupid and dishonest enough to pretend that somehow this balancing of the court is going to cause the courts to become subservient to the executive or force governance, right?

#8 | Posted by Avigdore at 2020-02-23 02:07 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Because of Trump's success in filling vacancies, the San Francisco-based circuit, long dominated by Democratic appointees, has suddenly shifted to the right, with an even more pronounced tilt expected in the years ahead. - Posted by 6thPersona at 06:51 PM
Wait...your claim is that the court consisting of a majority Democrat appointees suddenly being reduced to still a majority of Democrat appointees has flipped court? How stupid would you have to be to believe that kind of claim?

#9 | Posted by Avigdore at 2020-02-23 02:11 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

#6 say that when they send you to the nuthouse.

#10 | Posted by ichiro at 2020-02-23 02:16 AM | Reply

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still a majority of Democrat appointees has flipped court?
#9 | POSTED BY AVIGDORE

I am not a lawyer and I don't know the intimate details of the inner workings of the courts.
But what I am reading in the article is that cases are generally decided by 3 judge panels. These decisions could be upheld or there could be a call for review by larger 11 judge panels. In the past conservative opinions were fairly easily overturned by Dem appointed judges calling for review.
From the article:
Still, with Democratic nominees heavily outnumbering Republicans, there were usually enough votes to overturn conservative decisions by three-judge panels.

But even now Democratic appointees are likely to be more reluctant to ask for 11-judge panels to review conservative decisions because the larger en banc panels, chosen randomly, might be dominated by Republicans, judges said.

#11 | Posted by 6thPersona at 2020-02-23 08:54 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Yeah! Let's force what we can't enact through actual governance on the people who don't want it!

You mean like Democrats were doing with the courts before?

#12 | Posted by boaz at 2020-02-23 11:25 AM | Reply

This might mean less decisions overturned by SCOTUS. The 9th may improve their record.

#13 | Posted by Petrous at 2020-02-23 12:17 PM | Reply

You mean like Democrats were doing with the courts before?

#12 | POSTED BY BOAZ AT 2020-02-23 11:25 AM | FLAG:

There is no equivalence. You and Avig are naive and uninformed. Liberals appoint fair judges, and Cons appoint biased political hacks.

#14 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2020-02-23 01:38 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

The Ninth Court of Appeals earned the name Nutty Ninth, usually the Supreme Court had to take a week on their calendar to reverse their decisions. It is a circuit court and a bunch of judges are on rotation. The game lawyers play is Judge roulette and get a majority of the justices serving on a panel that are sympathetic to a particular viewpoint or support a cause. There are 18 Judges on the Court, most cases are heard by five of them at a time. It has been long overdue to divide the existing district into three circuit courts.

#15 | Posted by docnjo at 2020-02-23 03:24 PM | Reply

No question. The 9th Circuit aint the liberal stronghold it used to be. No sure things coming out of the there anymore.

#16 | Posted by moder8 at 2020-02-23 04:24 PM | Reply

Liberals appoint fair judges, and Cons appoint biased political hacks. - #14 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2020-02-23 01:38 PM
You believe that because your ignorance matches your partisanship.

#17 | Posted by Avigdore at 2020-02-23 06:59 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

You believe that because your ignorance matches your partisanship.

#17 | POSTED BY AVIGDORE

LOL this dipschit calling somebody ignorant.

#18 | Posted by jpw at 2020-02-23 11:15 PM | Reply

Both sides appoint judges who they think will do their bidding.

#19 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE at 2020-02-23 11:22 PM | Reply

#15 | Posted by docnjo

Judges are assigned to cases randomly by computer. Lawyers have no clue who will hear their case until the Monday prior to oral argument, long after briefing has closed. They hear cases in 3 judge panels. This is common throughout the circuits. The court has 29 authorized seats. With senior judges the court has 49 judges.

Seriously dude, this is public information. www.ca9.uscourts.gov and cdn.ca9.uscourts.gov There is no need to just make s**t up as you routinely do about courts and the justice system.

#20 | Posted by et_al at 2020-02-24 01:53 AM | Reply

Both sides appoint judges who they think will do their bidding.

#19 | POSTED BY LIVE_OR_DIE

Do both sides appoint judges labeled as unqualified and who are complete loons?

Lazy thinking helps nobody.

#21 | Posted by jpw at 2020-02-24 02:04 AM | Reply

Do both sides appoint judges labeled as unqualified and who are complete loons?
.

#21 | POSTED BY JPW

9 of the 10 appointed by Trump have been rated as 'qualified'. 6 of those 9 rated as 'highly qualified'.
Lazy thinking helps nobody.

#22 | Posted by 6thPersona at 2020-02-24 08:37 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

You mean like Democrats were doing with the courts before?

#12 | POSTED BY BOAZ

Nope. The way that Republicans "thought" that Democrats were doing before. Because conservatives just disagree with the decisions since they don't believe in upholding the constitution.

So, now they are INTENTIONALLY putting conservative activist judges on the courts. People who are willing to sacrifice their morals and ethics in order to put the interests of their party over the country and the constitution. You know, regular conservatives.

#23 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2020-02-24 09:54 AM | Reply

#20 | Posted by et_al Actually on the group photo of the judges 18 are shown, and the appetite court can empanel 3 to 5 judges depending on the case.

#24 | Posted by docnjo at 2020-02-24 10:17 AM | Reply

Liberals appoint fair judges, and Cons appoint biased political hacks.

#14 | POSTED BY BRUCEBANNER

I challenge you to identify the last conservative supreme court justice appointed by a Democrat. Care to guess how long it's been, and how many liberals and moderates Republicans have appointed in that time?

#25 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2020-02-24 10:29 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Care to guess how long it's been, and how many liberals and moderates Republicans have appointed in that time?

You seem to want to prove you know. So. Go for it Musty. When did the republicans last appoint a liberal?

#26 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-02-24 10:36 AM | Reply

Make sure it was a liberal they appointed on purpose, not someone who surprised them.

#27 | Posted by Joe at 2020-02-24 10:38 AM | Reply

#26 O'Conner, Souter, Kennedy....

Still waiting for the answer to the question I asked...

#28 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2020-02-24 10:44 AM | Reply

David Hackett Souter, Political party: Republican

Sandra Day O'Connor, Political party: Republican

Anthony M. Kennedy: A supporter of libertarian individual freedoms

So. None are actually liberals. Most are from decades ago.

And Kennedy stepped down so Trump could appoint Kavanaugh.

These are you Republican appointed liberal judges?

Try again, Musty pantaloons.

#29 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-02-24 11:05 AM | Reply

Yes decades ago, and I didn't say they were Democrats. I said they were either liberals or moderates appointed by a Republican. Their voting records are proof of my point.

I'm still waiting for my answer. Need help?

#30 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2020-02-24 11:16 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Merrick Garland

BTW. I don't accept any of the judges you listed as liberals.

Which, was your claim.

#31 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-02-24 11:20 AM | Reply

#28 Read #27 and write a new list.

#32 | Posted by JOE at 2020-02-24 11:22 AM | Reply

So, now they are INTENTIONALLY putting conservative activist judges on the courts.
#23 | POSTED BY GTBRITISHSKULL

I don't know if they are 'conservative activist judges' or not.
But: Of the 10, two are women, three are Asian Americans " one an openly gay man who has two children with his husband. The other five are white men. Several went to the nation's top universities.

I thought the Left favored diversity over substance? These appear to have both.

#33 | Posted by 6thPersona at 2020-02-24 11:23 AM | Reply

#31 You don't have to accept it. Their voting ideology is available online.

Not Merrick Garland. Keep trying.

#34 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2020-02-24 11:24 AM | Reply

I love when conservatives take a justice they excoriated for decades as a turncoat and prop him up a some shining example of Republican moderateness.

#35 | Posted by JOE at 2020-02-24 11:24 AM | Reply

#32 I'm not going to play "move the goalposts" any more than you can read the minds of the nominators.

My challenge was clear: find the last moderate or conservative supreme court justice appointed under a Democratic President. Given nobody will answer, my guess is that you were surprised by the answer and ashamed to admit it.

#36 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2020-02-24 11:27 AM | Reply

#36

Nah. I'm just not well versed in judges and neither are you, considering you listed a bunch of conservative Republicans and a libertarian as liberals.

#37 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-02-24 11:29 AM | Reply

#36 The goalposts havent moved. Your claim is that Republicans appoint moderates and liberals intentionally out of benevolence and bipartisanship. If they appoint someone who ends up being a liberal by accident, that doesn't make Republicans moderate - it makes them stupid.

#38 | Posted by JOE at 2020-02-24 11:30 AM | Reply

They're only considered moderate because today's republicans are so batshht extreme to the right. In their day, the judges Mustang listed, were considered conservatives.

Today's republicans would consider Hitler to be a moderate.

#39 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-02-24 11:34 AM | Reply

Corporations Win.
Working People Lose.
Republicans Cheer.

#40 | Posted by Sycophant at 2020-02-24 01:52 PM | Reply

My challenge was clear: find the last moderate or conservative supreme court justice appointed under a Democratic President. Given nobody will answer, my guess is that you were surprised by the answer and ashamed to admit it.

#36 | POSTED BY MUSTANG

Merrick Garland was a moderate Judge.
www.politico.com

Ironically they called him a liberal for giving the White House executive power since the Conservatives now do it constantly.

#41 | Posted by Sycophant at 2020-02-24 01:55 PM | Reply

#41 I agree, but he didn't make it. The last sitting moderate nominated by a Democrat was Byron White, nominated by JFK. Nobody else is even close.

In their day, the judges Mustang listed, were considered conservatives.

en.m.wikipedia.org

#42 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2020-02-24 02:51 PM | Reply

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