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Tuesday, March 10, 2020

Joe Biden will win Mississippi, CNN projects. There are 36 delegates at stake tonight in Mississippi. Results are coming in from Missouri and North Dakota. Here's a breakdown of the delegates at stake in those states: Mississippi: 36, Missouri: 68, North Dakota: 14.

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I wanna see Joltin' Joe (or Battlin' Bernie!) deck Fat Nixon in a debate. His base would try to suicide on Corona beer virus.

#1 | Posted by Corky at 2020-03-10 08:31 PM | Reply

Today is the right day for Sanders to shift gears and start campaigning for Biden.

#2 | Posted by Tor at 2020-03-10 08:35 PM | Reply

Mississippi and Missouri declared for Joe right off the hop. Mississippi was expected, but Missouri was a Sanders state last time, this time a no-doubter for Joe. Things not looking so good for Senator Sanders.

#3 | Posted by _Gunslinger_ at 2020-03-10 08:37 PM | Reply

Gawd this is great.

The best the Dems have is a dementia addled, brain damaged 77, year old.

The establishment's useful idiot.

#4 | Posted by sawdust at 2020-03-10 08:37 PM | Reply

Ragin' Joe is more likely to deck a voter than Trump.

#5 | Posted by nullifidian at 2020-03-10 08:40 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Up against the current dementia addled occupant of the WH, Joe looks like a genius!

#6 | Posted by _Gunslinger_ at 2020-03-10 08:41 PM | Reply

Today is the right day for Sanders to shift gears and start campaigning as an independent.

#7 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-03-10 08:41 PM | Reply

Sanders shot his load and it turned out he was packing blanks.

#8 | Posted by Tor at 2020-03-10 08:42 PM | Reply

Combover Quisling has never decked any human with testosterone in their system. His hands are too tiny, might hurt himself.

#9 | Posted by _Gunslinger_ at 2020-03-10 08:42 PM | Reply

Today is the right day for Sanders to shift gears and start campaigning as an independent.

#7 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK AT 2020-03-10 08:41 PM | FLAG:

Yep. He likes the money too much to stop now. Send him $20 quick!

#10 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2020-03-10 08:44 PM | Reply

Biden is outperforming Clinton in every single county in MI and Sanders is underperforming his 2016 numbers in every single county, particularly the counties he won. The voters do not want Sanders as their presidential candidate and it doesn't appear to be close.

This is why we vote.

#11 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-03-10 08:45 PM | Reply

It's over. The democrat electorate has declared proudly and loudly in one voice:

WE LEARNED NOTHING IN 2016! LETS DO IT AGAIN!

#12 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2020-03-10 08:49 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 3

The best the Dems have is a dementia addled, brain damaged 77, year old.

Actually what they will have is a united Democratic Party, pushing ObamaCare 2.0. Healthcare is the most important part of the next election (other than maybe a recession that Trump could be piloting...)

On the Republican side, you're promised the best healthcare ever coming your way......promised from four years ago.......

#13 | Posted by brass30 at 2020-03-10 08:49 PM | Reply

I've heard Joe on a couple of longer interviews over the past couple of days, and I think he sounds great. It took some time early in the primary for him to stretch his campaign muscles again (It's been 8 years since he ran for election) but I think he's fine now. He's thoughtful and does a good job of explaining things in plain language. One thing he does that I really like is that he's very humble in his speech. He never refers to it as his campaign, it's always "our" campaign and in talking about Bernie he started down a path discussing their differences, moved onto why he would be better in the general, then stopped and added, "If I'm fortunate enough to be our candidate." He never bashed Bernie, never said anything ugly, just talked about the cost of Bernie's proposed programs in comparison to GDP. I liked that, especially compared to Fat Nixon, who is only all about The Donald, John Barron, David Dennison and the fat old man covered in bronzer who looks back at him in the mirror every morning. Joe really does signify is a return to class and dignity in the WH.

#14 | Posted by _Gunslinger_ at 2020-03-10 08:53 PM | Reply

Amelia Thomson-DeVeaux8:39 PM

The generational divide between younger and older voters in the preliminary Missouri exit polls is stunning. Around three-quarters of voters ages 18-29 went for Sanders, and a similar share (77 percent) of voters over 65 went for Biden. The problem for Sanders is that 18- to 29-year-olds only made up 12 percent of the primary electorate in the state, while voters over the age of 65 were 35 percent of the electorate.

fivethirtyeight.com

#15 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-03-10 08:53 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

It's over. The democrat electorate has declared proudly and loudly in one voice:
WE LEARNED NOTHING IN 2016! LETS DO IT AGAIN!

POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY AT 2020-03-10 08:49 PM | REPLY

Nope they sure haven't. Oh well. When the lose they will blame everyone and anyone but themselves.

#16 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2020-03-10 08:55 PM | Reply

Amelia Thomson-DeVeaux 8:52 PM

Biden also won big among white college-educated women in Missouri, according to the preliminary exit polls: he got 58 percent of that group, while Sanders only got 35 percent. If that pattern persists, it's not a great sign for Sanders, since white college-educated women were a big part of Warren's base on Super Tuesday. Despite Sanders's ideological similarities with Warren, it wasn't clear that her supporters would fall in line behind him.

fivethirtyeight.com

#17 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-03-10 08:55 PM | Reply

The thing about 18 to 29 year olds is that they eventually grow up and stop believing in Santa Claus.

#18 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2020-03-10 08:55 PM | Reply

Ryan Saavedra

"If Bernie gets wiped off the map tonight, and it's looking that way, then it wouldn't be surprising if the DNC tried to force him out ASAP to prevent Sunday's debate

Once Biden has this wrapped up the DNC will try to limit his camera time due to his obvious problems"

#19 | Posted by nullifidian at 2020-03-10 08:55 PM | Reply

......promised from four years ago.......

Promised from more than ten years ago... and still counting....

#20 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-03-10 08:56 PM | Reply

Actually what they will have is a united Democratic Party, pushing ObamaCare 2.0. Healthcare is the most important part of the next election (other than maybe a recession that Trump could be piloting...)

On the Republican side, you're promised the best healthcare ever coming your way......promised from four years ago.......

#13 | Posted by brass30

Obamacare 2.0. Brought to you by the same insurance-industry-bribe-accepting politicians who didn't fix the problem the first time because their donors wouldnt allow it.

#21 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2020-03-10 08:57 PM | Reply

Nope they sure haven't. Oh well. When the lose they will blame everyone and anyone but themselves.

#16 | POSTED BY LAURAMOHR AT 2020-03-10 08:55 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

Wow! 82 percent Joe in Mississippi. 2.0 percent Bloomberg even.

Listen to the voices of the voters speak out.

Amazing stuff.

#22 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2020-03-10 08:57 PM | Reply

Geoffrey Skelley8:48 PM

One fundamental problem for Sanders remains his inability to win over self-identified Democrats. It was a problem for him in 2016, too, and it's not clear that he's improved on that front. Take Missouri: the preliminary exit poll has Biden leading Sanders by 30 points among Democrats and Sanders ahead by 20 points among independents. But two-thirds of the electorate identified as Democratic versus less than one-third as independent. You have to win among Democrats to win a Democratic primary.

fivethirtyeight.com

#23 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-03-10 08:59 PM | Reply

Actually what they will have is a united Democratic Party, pushing ObamaCare 2.0. Healthcare is the most important part of the next election (other than maybe a recession that Trump could be piloting...)
On the Republican side, you're promised the best healthcare ever coming your way......promised from four years ago.......

POSTED BY BRASS30 AT 2020-03-10 08:49 PM | REPLY

So more of the same. A Republican created health care insurance plan that doesn't cover the whole nation. Joe Biden is against Universal Health care coverage. The thing we most need in America especially now. Keep repeating the same thing. It will stagnate us.

#24 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2020-03-10 09:01 PM | Reply

The thing about 18 to 29 year olds is that they eventually grow up and stop believing in Santa Claus.

No, they eventually learn how long and hard it is to win enough of the electorate over to their point of view through hard work and electing sympathetic candidates from the grass roots up, not from the presidency down.

The reason cliches of historical wisdom exist is that they've been proven true over decades and sometimes longer.

#25 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-03-10 09:01 PM | Reply

Nope they sure haven't. Oh well. When the lose they will blame everyone and anyone but themselves.

#16 | POSTED BY LAURAMOHR AT 2020-03-10 08:55 PM | FLAG:

So you're saying Dems should choose the candidate getting crushed in Missouri and Mississippi? The guy getting whooped in Michigan? The guy who has been running and organizing for four years and still has no traction with the AA base of this party? The guy who would not share his email list with the DNC after 2016? This is democracy at work Laura, Democratic voters are speaking very clearly, they don't think Bernie is worth the risk against Drumpf. Joe may not be Obama, but he will have Barak and Michelle out campaigning for him loud and proud. This might be a year that Dems turn some of those southern states like GA and SC blue.

#26 | Posted by _Gunslinger_ at 2020-03-10 09:01 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Michigan for Biden one minute after poll closing.

Goodnight Gracie.

If Sanders can't beat Biden in Michigan in March, he isn't going to beat Trump there in Novemeber.

Thank goodness for the sake of every other Democrat on the ballot, he won't have the opportunity.

#27 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-03-10 09:03 PM | Reply

Missouri and Mississippi went GOP last general election. Why do you hang your hat on States you will lose automatically against Trump??

#28 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2020-03-10 09:03 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

So more of the same. A Republican created health care insurance plan that doesn't cover the whole nation. Joe Biden is against Universal Health care coverage. The thing we most need in America especially now. Keep repeating the same thing. It will stagnate us.

#24 | POSTED BY LAURAMOHR AT 2020-03-10 09:01 PM | FLAG:

Do you even know what Joe Biden is for? He's for a PUBLIC OPTION added to the ACA. The only way the public option would work is through Medicare. The public option was always the incremental way to get to M4A. M4A won't happen in four years, but it will happen. Better yet, it will allow the millions of people who work in the insurance industry to slowly migrate to other sectors of the economy without telling them all they're fired in four years.

#29 | Posted by _Gunslinger_ at 2020-03-10 09:05 PM | Reply

If Sanders can't beat Biden in Michigan in March, he isn't going to beat Trump there in Novemeber.
Thank goodness for the sake of every other Democrat on the ballot, he won't have the opportunity.

POSTED BY TONYROMA AT 2020-03-10 09:03 PM | REPLY

HILLARY didn't win Michigan in November 2016. Your point??

#30 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2020-03-10 09:05 PM | Reply

Goodnight Gracie.

Hey I'm awake!

#31 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2020-03-10 09:06 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

Laura, simple question. What states that Trump won in 2016 do you think Sanders has a better chance of competing in than Joe Biden - who currently is winning white suburbans, older and black voters at 2018 rates, far beyond Clinton in 2016?

Florida would be a bloodbath with Bernie at the top, and what energy would he provide in Georgia?

Tell us Bernie's path to an electoral victory pleas.

#32 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-03-10 09:09 PM | Reply

Missouri and Mississippi went GOP last general election. Why do you hang your hat on States you will lose automatically against Trump??

#28 | POSTED BY LAURAMOHR AT 2020-03-10 09:03 PM | FLAG:

Because it's a democracy and all votes count, even those in the red states. Missouri is within reach this cycle, especially with Ernst up for reelection and Drumpf's approval around break even. Michigan is going for Biden, do we just forfeit that to Drumpf too? Bernie couldn't even beat Joe in Massachusetts a state where Joe never campaigned, and VA where Joe only had one field office and never campaigned. I'm sure you would agree, MA and VA are VERY blue states.
Face it, when faced by a real Dem who doesn't have Hillary's baggage, Bernie is not a competitive candidate. He gets around 30-35% of the Dem vote, and I think much of that is name recognition.

#33 | Posted by _Gunslinger_ at 2020-03-10 09:10 PM | Reply

Every year for several now, I think things are bound to get better this year. But it doesn't. I think; humanity can't become any less humane. But it does.

Sad days.

#34 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2020-03-10 09:11 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Do you even know what Joe Biden is for? He's for a PUBLIC OPTION added to the ACA. The only way the public option would work is through Medicare. The public option was always the incremental way to get to M4A. M4A won't happen in four years, but it will happen. Better yet, it will allow the millions of people who work in the insurance industry to slowly migrate to other sectors of the economy without telling them all they're fired in four years.

#29 | POSTED BY _GUNSLINGER_ AT 2020-03-10 09:05 PM | REPLY | FLAG

A public option if you can afford to buy into it. If you can't you're SOL AGAIN.

#35 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2020-03-10 09:13 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Do you even know what Joe Biden is for? He's for a PUBLIC OPTION added to the ACA. The only way the public option would work is through Medicare. The public option was always the incremental way to get to M4A. M4A won't happen in four years, but it will happen. Better yet, it will allow the millions of people who work in the insurance industry to slowly migrate to other sectors of the economy without telling them all they're fired in four years.

#29 | POSTED BY _GUNSLINGER_ AT 2020-03-10 09:05 PM | REPLY | FLAG

A public option if you can afford to buy into it. If you can't you're SOL AGAIN.

#36 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2020-03-10 09:13 PM | Reply

No, they eventually learn how long and hard it is to win enough of the electorate over to their point of view through hard work and electing sympathetic candidates from the grass roots up, not from the presidency down.
The reason cliches of historical wisdom exist is that they've been proven true over decades and sometimes longer.

#25 | POSTED BY TONYROMA AT 2020-03-10 09:01 PM | FLAG:

They prefer their candidates be able to describe their plans too. Jokes about "how many hours do you have?" just aren't funny when it comes to healthcare.

#37 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2020-03-10 09:13 PM | Reply

Every year for several now, I think things are bound to get better this year. But it doesn't. I think; humanity can't become any less humane. But it does.
Sad days.

POSTED BY WHATSLEFT AT 2020-03-10 09:11 PM | REPLY

Yeppers

#38 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2020-03-10 09:15 PM | Reply

"A public option if you can afford to buy into it. If you can't you're SOL AGAIN."

I don't know how it is going to work, but I think part of the Medicare public option should include a Medicaid 4 All who want Medicare but can't afford it.

#39 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-03-10 09:16 PM | Reply

Bolshevik Bernie and his band of acolytes are getting killed.
Even the Democrats are resoundingly repudiating a communist.

#40 | Posted by willowby at 2020-03-10 09:17 PM | Reply

We protect our pet baby turtles and kittens from endangering themselves, because we feel love and empathy for them. Yet Dems let our old, our confused, our most oblivious self-embarrassing people run as candidates for President of this country. Are you heartless baztards going to keep letting poor Joe and Bernie keep demonstrating that they need "helpers" to pre-chew their bowls of gruel, just so they can get out of bed?

#41 | Posted by Spork at 2020-03-10 09:17 PM | Reply

It should be based on income. Simple enough. (investment income included)

#42 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2020-03-10 09:18 PM | Reply

"Biden is outperforming Clinton in every single county in MI and Sanders is underperforming his 2016 numbers in every single county, particularly the counties he won. The voters do not want Sanders as their presidential candidate and it doesn't appear to be close.

This is why we vote."

Plant your American flag at the end of that sentence. :)

#43 | Posted by Tor at 2020-03-10 09:18 PM | Reply

Not that it matters, but I like Biden.

Not sure he or anyone else can beat an incumbent POTUS though. POTUS holds a lot of free cards.

#44 | Posted by REDIAL at 2020-03-10 09:18 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#41 Trump is around the same age you buffoon.

#45 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2020-03-10 09:18 PM | Reply

Still waiting Laura. I want to know how you see Bernie being able to win an EC victory this fall. If you can't do that, then why back a candidate that is sure to be defeated in the general?

And as it regards Michigan in 2016, those who voted in the primary narrowly wanted Bernie over Hillary and then Hillary lost the state in November. So the PRIMARY voters were right.

Doesn't the same logic apply now? How can you not see that?

#46 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-03-10 09:20 PM | Reply

A public option if you can afford to buy into it. If you can't you're SOL AGAIN.

#35 | POSTED BY LAURAMOHR AT 2020-03-10 09:13 PM | FLAG:

You are obstinate, the public option through Medicare would be intended for low income and no income earners! It would also be an option on every state's marketplace, providing downward pressure on prices paid by individuals. Do you think you wouldn't pay for M4A? Your taxes would go up likely a lot, so you would be paying for it.

#47 | Posted by _Gunslinger_ at 2020-03-10 09:21 PM | Reply

cnn projects Biden takes Michigan.

#48 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2020-03-10 09:22 PM | Reply

Joe wins 80% white Missouri by 30%, very AA Mississippi by 65% and so far Michigan by 12%. This isn't a race, it's a floor mopping. Joe's coalition is much broader and deeper than HRC's was.

#49 | Posted by _Gunslinger_ at 2020-03-10 09:25 PM | Reply

Still waiting Laura. I want to know how you see Bernie being able to win an EC victory this fall. If you can't do that, then why back a candidate that is sure to be defeated in the general?
And as it regards Michigan in 2016, those who voted in the primary narrowly wanted Bernie over Hillary and then Hillary lost the state in November. So the PRIMARY voters were right.
Doesn't the same logic apply now? How can you not see that?

POSTED BY TONYROMA AT 2020-03-10 09:20 PM | REPLY

He's not the status quo. We are tired of the status quo. You elect a status quo Democrat come November he will lose. Bernie stands for change REAL Change. Not the thing Obama promised yet refused to deliver upon. Voters are hungry for it. That's how.

#50 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2020-03-10 09:27 PM | Reply

Still waiting Laura. I want to know how you see Bernie being able to win an EC victory this fall. If you can't do that, then why back a candidate that is sure to be defeated in the general?
And as it regards Michigan in 2016, those who voted in the primary narrowly wanted Bernie over Hillary and then Hillary lost the state in November. So the PRIMARY voters were right.
Doesn't the same logic apply now? How can you not see that?

POSTED BY TONYROMA AT 2020-03-10 09:20 PM | REPLY

He's not the status quo. We are tired of the status quo. You elect a status quo Democrat come November he will lose. Bernie stands for change REAL Change. Not the thing Obama promised yet refused to deliver upon. Voters are hungry for it. That's how.

#51 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2020-03-10 09:27 PM | Reply

I think Joe goes six for six tonight, and Bernie bows out tomorrow. If Joe cleans the slate tonight, what benefit is there for Bernie to stay in?

#52 | Posted by _Gunslinger_ at 2020-03-10 09:27 PM | Reply

#47 I don't think Laura is employed.

#53 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2020-03-10 09:27 PM | Reply

laura- apparently voters are NOT hungry for sanders.

#54 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2020-03-10 09:28 PM | Reply

I bet Bernie goes all the way to the next debate and right to the convention and does every nasty thing he can do to harm the Dems and harm Joe.

#55 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2020-03-10 09:29 PM | Reply

As president, Biden will stop this reversal of the progress made by Obamacare. And he won't stop there. He'll also build on the Affordable Care Act with a plan to insure more than an estimated 97% of Americans. Here's how:

Expanding coverage to low-income Americans. Access to affordable health insurance shouldn't depend on your state's politics. But today, state politics is getting in the way of coverage for millions of low-income Americans. Governors and state legislatures in 14 states have refused to take up the Affordable Care Act's expansion of Medicaid eligibility, denying access to Medicaid for an estimated 4.9 million adults. Biden's plan will ensure these individuals get covered by offering premium-free access to the public option for those 4.9 million individuals who would be eligible for Medicaid but for their state's inaction, and making sure their public option covers the full scope of Medicaid benefits. States that have already expanded Medicaid will have the choice of moving the expansion population to the premium-free public option as long as the states continue to pay their current share of the cost of covering those individuals. Additionally, Biden will ensure people making below 138% of the federal poverty level get covered. He'll do this by automatically enrolling these individuals when they interact with certain institutions (such as public schools) or other programs for low-income populations (such as SNAP).


joebiden.com

#56 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-03-10 09:30 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

He's not the status quo. We are tired of the status quo. You elect a status quo Democrat come November he will lose. Bernie stands for change REAL Change. Not the thing Obama promised yet refused to deliver upon. Voters are hungry for it. That's how.

#51 | POSTED BY LAURAMOHR AT 2020-03-10 09:27 PM | FLAG:

Voters aren't saying that at all. They didn't say that on Super Tuesday and they're certainly not saying it tonight. Voters are saying that they want a return to class and dignity and the Obama era to the WH. You are one of the few Dem(ish) folks I know of who are disenchanted about Obama. His popularity among Dems is off the charts. American voters would take another four years of Obama if they could.

#57 | Posted by _Gunslinger_ at 2020-03-10 09:30 PM | Reply

Biden just needs to pick a good VP. Booker or that hot chick from Hawaii.

Still a tough slog against an incumbent POTUS.

#58 | Posted by REDIAL at 2020-03-10 09:37 PM | Reply

Sanders will win the primary with a plurality and the establishment will rob him and hand the nomination to Biden or Clinton.

Hilarity will ensue.

#59 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-03-10 09:38 PM | Reply

"Clyburn wants to cancel debates b/c Biden is doing well tonight....

Almost like his surrogates know it will be problem for him "

No kidding. They are terrified of Biden having to go 2 hours one on one.

#60 | Posted by nullifidian at 2020-03-10 09:40 PM | Reply

Sanders will win the primary with a plurality and the establishment will rob him and hand the nomination to Biden or Clinton.
Hilarity will ensue.

#59 | POSTED BY JEFFJ AT 2020-03-10 09:38 PM | FLAG:

Your wet dreams have no basis in fact Trolly McTrollerson. Joe is crushing it tonight. If he cruises to a 6/6 night, I'm sure Bernie bows out soon. Even if he doesn't, after tonight Joe will have a commanding delegate lead. No way Bernie wins a plurality now.

#61 | Posted by _Gunslinger_ at 2020-03-10 09:42 PM | Reply

He's not the status quo. We are tired of the status quo. You elect a status quo Democrat come November he will lose.

You might be tired of the status quo, but YOU DON'T VOTE FOR DEMOCRATS ANYWAY! You want far left progressivism at a time America just elected Trump. Do you not understand there is no majority - right now - for Bernie's politics - even in the Democratic Party?

He's getting his asterisk kicked in the more liberal primary, how in the hell do you think he'll win conservatives at all?

And you still haven't answered the question. I voted for Bernie in the 2016 primary because I feared Hillary fatigue. There is no Biden fatigue. You keep trying to apply apples and subtract oranges.

Last time, for you to have any credibility whatsoever, PLEASE tell us what states Bernie will win to insure his Electoral College victory in November. If you can't theorize his path to 270, then what good would it do to back an already-known loser?

We know why you won't answer. Bernie doesn't have any realistic path to 270, and that is why Democrats have flocked to Biden even after all Trump has done to diminish him personally and his candidacy.

#62 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-03-10 09:45 PM | Reply

Jeff Zeleny @jeffzeleny (CNN Senior Washington Correspondent)
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"I wanted to let the Democratic process play out and I believe it has," @AndrewYang says as he endorses @JoeBiden. On CNN, Yang says Biden called him last week, but Yang wanted to watch Michigan and other states vote this week. Now, he's with Biden after backing Sanders in '16.

#63 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-03-10 09:46 PM | Reply

I've been wondering how a townhall debate, in which voters aske the questions, is going to work without the audience (due to coronavirus considerations)?

#64 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-03-10 09:48 PM | Reply

Biden will be in a nursing home this time next year. The VP pick is all important here. That's how you know the real agenda. Joe is a Trojan horse for Hillary or some other nasty unaccountable Dem. I'm stayng home on this one depending on the VP,Biden should pick Bernie.LOL.

#65 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2020-03-10 09:48 PM | Reply

"Clyburn wants to cancel debates b/c Biden is doing well tonight....
Almost like his surrogates know it will be problem for him "
No kidding. They are terrified of Biden having to go 2 hours one on one.

#60 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN AT 2020-03-10 09:40 PM | FLAG:

Another troll weighs in. Biden is fine. IF Biden people are trying to cancel debates is because at this point, Joe has the nomination in the bag. He will have a commanding delegate lead after tonight. Michigan was Bernie's firewall and Joe just Berned it down. The longer the primary fight goes on, longer it takes before Joe is recognized as the DNC standard bearer and can start campaigning against your cult leader. If Bernie bows in the next week with no path to the nomination, then Joe and his surrogates can start kicking Diaper's Donnie in his full grampy nappy.

#66 | Posted by _Gunslinger_ at 2020-03-10 09:48 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

It's over Sanders supporters.

Dry your eyes.

We have a fascist to F*** in his orange a@@@.

#67 | Posted by Tor at 2020-03-10 09:49 PM | Reply

I feel like these results display how much of Bernie's 2016 results were due to a "anyone but HRC" vibe. Biden is blowing away the results HRC had for these states four years ago.

/primary over.

#68 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2020-03-10 09:50 PM | Reply

It turns out there is a silent majority, and it is waking up and coming out to vote during the Democratic primaries.

#69 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-03-10 09:51 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

I've been wondering how a townhall debate, in which voters aske the questions, is going to work without the audience (due to coronavirus considerations)?

Online questions read by the moderator.

#70 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-03-10 09:51 PM | Reply

Although Trump is incumbent, I am beginning to believe he can be defeated at the polls.

#71 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2020-03-10 09:52 PM | Reply

"Although Trump is incumbent, I am beginning to believe he can be defeated at the polls.

#71 | POSTED BY BRUCEBANNER "

As long as the economy is still good, unemployment low, and gas cheap, it's not likely. At least not by Biden.

#72 | Posted by goatman at 2020-03-10 09:55 PM | Reply

Bernie put up a good fight but is going to lose to Biden.... not sure why people prefer Joe but that's democracy..congrats!

As for Bernies support being mostly name recognition.. its insulting ... Maybe you choose your candidate by celebrity... but I support Bernies policies.

#73 | Posted by 503jc69 at 2020-03-10 09:55 PM | Reply

"Online questions read by the moderator."

Still, no live audience is going to be weird.

#74 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-03-10 09:55 PM | Reply

Biden will be in a nursing home this time next year. The VP pick is all important here. That's how you know the real agenda. Joe is a Trojan horse for Hillary or some other nasty unaccountable Dem. I'm stayng home on this one depending on the VP,Biden should pick Bernie.LOL.

#65 | POSTED BY EFFETEPOSER AT 2020-03-10 09:48 PM | FLAG:

And yet ANOTHER troll weighs in. Bernie is the same age as Biden, and he's had ONE MORE HEART ATTACK THAN JOE! Joe has promised to share his medical records with voters, Bernie has pulled a Fat Nixon and refused. Sorry, but if somebody's going to to be a nursing home next year, it's just as likely to be Bernie from a stroke. Joe may not be the silver tongued orator that Obama is, but he's at least far more cogent than the fat tub of goo he'll be facing in the general.

I'm betting Joe picks Harris as his running mate. He mentioned in an interview yesterday that he's looking for somebody simpatico to the direction he wants to take the country, that his running mate should be a woman and/or a person of color and that being tested on the presidential stage was an important consideration.

#75 | Posted by _Gunslinger_ at 2020-03-10 09:55 PM | Reply

White rural areas in Michigan that supported Sanders in 2016 went strongly for Biden somewhat due to Trump's horrific farm policies and trade wars.

The idea that Biden can't beat Trump here is ludicrous based on anecdotes like this. In 2016, Republican men controlled Michigan. Since 2018, Democratic women fill most of the top elected positions in the state due to the blue wave.

Michigan is strongly back in the leaning left category.

Which begs the question, what blue state will Trump turn to make up for his likely loss of Michigan?

#76 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-03-10 09:58 PM | Reply

but I support Bernies policies.

#73 | POSTED BY 503JC69 AT 2020-03-10 09:55 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

Impossible. Bernie didn't have any policies. It was just a bunch of slogans.

#77 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2020-03-10 09:59 PM | Reply

Let's see how Joe does in WI and PA. I think he has a good shot in PA. He may even have a shot in FL.

#78 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-03-10 10:00 PM | Reply

Biden needs to pick a man for vp. A white man.

#79 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2020-03-10 10:00 PM | Reply

Kamala is poison because of her job as prosecutor and she comes off as inauthentic to me.

#80 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2020-03-10 10:01 PM | Reply

Bernie didn't have any policies. It was just a bunch of slogans.
#77 | POSTED BY BRUCEBANNER

Say's the guy supporting an Empty shell.

Quick, which policy of Biden's do you most support?

Trick question. Biden doesn't have any policies.

He's a seat filler until November, when Trump wins the re election.

#81 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-03-10 10:02 PM | Reply

Missouri and Mississippi went GOP last general election. Why do you hang your hat on States you will lose automatically against Trump??

#28 | POSTED BY LAURAMOHR

So are Dems only supposed to be concerned about states they won last time?

#82 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2020-03-10 10:03 PM | Reply

He may even have a shot in FL.

Yea, he may just turn the south blue.

#83 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-03-10 10:03 PM | Reply

but I support Bernies policies.
#73 | POSTED BY 503JC69 AT 2020-03-10 09:55 PM | REPLY | FLAG:
Impossible. Bernie didn't have any policies. It was just a bunch of slogans.

#77 | POSTED BY BRUCEBANNER AT 2020-03-10 09:59 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

I know you're trolling, but Bernie did have policies, just no explanation on how he would pay for them without bankrupting the country. Personally, I like the idea of free college, an educated populace is more productive and more likely to vote. It could be done at state schools. M4A is different. How do you reinvent 20% of the country's economy in four years, and how exactly do you pay for it?

#84 | Posted by _Gunslinger_ at 2020-03-10 10:03 PM | Reply

So are Dems only supposed to be concerned about states they won last time?
#82 | POSTED BY JOHNNY_HOTSAUCE

They only need to worry about swing states.

The rest of America should just sit it out.

#85 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-03-10 10:04 PM | Reply

I don't like any of those and he didn't have a plan to pay for them, to pass them, or any idea how they might work. He also didn't have any friends who he could put in charge of building and running those things.

#86 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2020-03-10 10:05 PM | Reply

"Quick, which policy of Biden's do you most support?"

Healthcare. Public option.

#87 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2020-03-10 10:06 PM | Reply

How do you reinvent 20% of the country's economy in four years, and how exactly do you pay for it?

This is an excuse.

The money is there.

The will to reallocate it isn't.

#88 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-03-10 10:06 PM | Reply

"Quick, which policy of Biden's do you most support?"

Being a decent human being.

#89 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2020-03-10 10:06 PM | Reply

The will to reallocate it isn't.

#88 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK AT 2020-03-10 10:06 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

Bernie planned on taking out of the pockets of the middle class.

#90 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2020-03-10 10:07 PM | Reply

He may even have a shot in FL.
Yea, he may just turn the south blue.

#83 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK AT 2020-03-10 10:03 PM | FLAG:

I don't know about the whole south, but I think he has a chance in NC, and he could tip GA and FL depending on what the GOP does to screw with people's ability to vote. Jamie Harrison is running a heck of a race in SC, if he gets a huge turn out from AA voters in that state, they might even carry Joe to the most unlikely win in 2020.

#91 | Posted by _Gunslinger_ at 2020-03-10 10:07 PM | Reply

Quick, which policy of Biden's do you most support?

That he's been chosen by a coalition of diverse voters that all want to see Trump defeated that actually show up and vote, unlike too few of Bernie's backers have.

The very thing that all Democratic primary voters say is the most important determinant in this year's election by a 60+% majority.

Yeah, that policy.

#92 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-03-10 10:07 PM | Reply

So are Dems only supposed to be concerned about states they won last time?

POSTED BY JOHNNY_HOTSAUCE AT 2020-03-10 10:03 PM | REPLY

It's a terrible idea to rely on states that won't go your way via EC. That's what I mean.

#93 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2020-03-10 10:07 PM | Reply

Healthcare. Public option.

Yea! That's why healthcare insurers are so excited Biden is winning the primaries!

Because, regardless of who wins in November, they'll really screw us and make billions in the process!

#94 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-03-10 10:09 PM | Reply

#77 Isn't it time to put on your Hulk jammies and get ready for your bedtime story?
By the way...I did get a nice laugh watching you try to boast about Bloombergs 2%.. comic gold

#95 | Posted by 503jc69 at 2020-03-10 10:10 PM | Reply

Yeah, that policy.
#92 | POSTED BY TONYROMA

I notice you didn't name a policy.

But, that's okay, Biden doesn't have any.

#96 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-03-10 10:10 PM | Reply

which policy of Biden's do you most support?"

Being a decent human being.
#89 | POSTED BY BRUCEBANNER

I guess you gotta set the bar as low as it goes.

Since he has no policies, you'll take what you can get.

#97 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-03-10 10:13 PM | Reply

"Bloombergs 2%"

Is that's not extraordinary, I just can't help you.

#98 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2020-03-10 10:14 PM | Reply

Since he has no policies, you'll take what you can get.

#97 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK AT 2020-03-10 10:13 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

You are just not acknowledging the answer I give.

I will also add his foreign policy experience is the best among all the candidates. That includes Trump.

#99 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2020-03-10 10:15 PM | Reply

Being a decent human being.
#89 | POSTED BY BRUCEBANNER
I guess you gotta set the bar as low as it goes.
Since he has no policies, you'll take what you can get.

#97 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK AT 2020-03-10 10:13 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

That's what someone who supports a hole Bernie would say. So I'm not surprised.

#100 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2020-03-10 10:16 PM | Reply

Biden is the ultimate insider and if you want to know his policy... learn the council on foriegn relations policy
Big oil
Big pharma
Big banks

But like I said before.. that's democracy... yeah Biden

#101 | Posted by 503jc69 at 2020-03-10 10:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

" Being a decent human being."

That's actually a really good answer.

#102 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2020-03-10 10:21 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Clownshack...

I think that you're one of the most passionate posters here and I more often than not agree with your positions. But I'm 60 years old now, and been politically active since I was 18. I work in and around both issue advocates and Democratic Party members and leadership. Everyone has their issues and priorities, but the first order of business is making sure that whomever the primary voters choose, you make the most of it for the sake of the greater good.

Biden is not progressive, but he'll have more room than Bernie to enact more progressive policies should we have a Congress that will pass them. Bernie in the White House without both a Dem House and Senate is nothing more than a 4 year argument that will lead nowhere. It's not Bernie's fault, it's reality.

Democrats already represent 65 million more American votes than do the Republicans but yet we still languish in the minority. If Biden can be elected, it will portend that both a younger and more progressive successor will follow him. It's not the end of the world, it's the end of Trump.

And you stated that I didn't list a policy. Yes I did. The most important policy is getting Trump out of the White House, and that means winning the Electoral College. Biden's popularity portends that he has a much better chance of doing that than Bernie does. This is not a policy election, it's an intervention and an exorcism. Voters believe that Biden will achieve what Bernie might not. I'd have no problem backing Bernie's policies if he wants to champion them in the Senate and put together plans that pass Congress. We do need more progressive policies, but not at the expense of alienating those who don't like Bernie's ideas who have showed up and voted for Biden by numbers no one thought conceivable only 8 days ago.

#103 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-03-10 10:23 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Clown...

I'll ask you the same question and I'm not being snark. Tell us the path you see for Bernie winning 270 electoral votes in November, since that is the goal.

What red states do you think he'd put in play that Trump won in 2016? Do you see any blue states that Biden's candidacy would endanger?

Play it out for us because winning the EC is the whole game.

#104 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-03-10 10:27 PM | Reply

Nick Corasaniti, in New York 27m ago

In non-Democratic primary news, President Trump just endorsed Tommy Tuberville in the Alabama Senate race over Jeff Sessions, Trump's former attorney general.

#105 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2020-03-10 10:28 PM | Reply

Tonight is Biden's night. The time is upon us when those of us who have supported Sanders will have to decide to shift gears and support Biden in the run-up to the general election. Or will we follow Sanders off the cliff like fanatical lemmings and try to ruin any chance Biden has of winning come November? To me this is an easy choice. I choose to put my support behind the person who is going to win the Democratic nomination fairly and squarely. I will be supporting Joe Biden going forward.

#106 | Posted by moder8 at 2020-03-10 10:33 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

I can see Trump declaring Martial Law if COVID-19 is still around in November and shutting down all elections (gatherings of people) because Red States choose not to implement non-in-person voting.

#107 | Posted by YAV at 2020-03-10 10:36 PM | Reply

They are probably going to have to find a Witness-Protection program to hide Biden from the press for the rest of the year.

#108 | Posted by nullifidian at 2020-03-10 10:36 PM | Reply

#108 - he's great in one-on-one interviews. No issues at all.

In the meantime Trump's holding rallies against every single Healthcare Professional, the CDC, NIH, WHO's advice. The vanity, the narcissism, the ego it takes to put his followers at risk is stunning. I wouldn't care one bit if you could then put all of them in quarantine, but then they go out into the general public, or back to retirement communities, etc. potentially infecting others.

Let's see how long Trump keeps this up.

What a POS.

#109 | Posted by YAV at 2020-03-10 10:41 PM | Reply

What a night for Biden. Wow.

#110 | Posted by YAV at 2020-03-10 10:43 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#106

Sanders choosing not to speak to the public tonight seems like a bullhorn blast to me. Andrew Yang has endorsed Biden after tonight's early results, and there really isn't a path for Bernie to win by large enough margins in the states that are left to make up his delegate deficit.

Michigan was Sanders Maginot Line, and once he lost it by double digits, the handwriting is on the wall. Hopefully, Bernie will accept the math and make the appropriate decision. This is actually a good thing since the virus is going to dominate public life for months moving forward and our normal way of politicking is changing due to safety reasons.

Donald Trump without his adoring crowds is a blowhard ignoramus without a clue. Joe Biden in quiet settings is a thoughtful statesman who makes people feel that he truly cares about them and will work hard for their benefit, not his own. The contrast will serve Biden well moving forward particularly as American life is about to drastically change for the worse due to our lack of preparation for what's now here.

#111 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-03-10 10:46 PM | Reply

Maybe Biden will use the Wuhan virus to back out of the debate.

#112 | Posted by nullifidian at 2020-03-10 10:47 PM | Reply

More like Trump will find the excuse to back out of the debate. Bank on it.

#113 | Posted by moder8 at 2020-03-10 10:49 PM | Reply

Will Warren endorse Biden now?

#114 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-03-10 10:49 PM | Reply

BTW, I love Jill Biden. Always have. She will make a great FLOTUS.

#115 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-03-10 10:51 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Listening to Biden now and thinking: he is the antidote to Trump.

#116 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-03-10 10:55 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Maybe Trump will quarantine himself and declare a delay in the November election :)

Seriously, if you're an independent or true moderate Republican, you've got to vote for Biden IMO over what's in the White House right now.

Decent human being. Respects the Constitution for starters.............

People have spoken, they want Biden as the choice.

#117 | Posted by brass30 at 2020-03-10 10:59 PM | Reply

Maybe Biden will use the Wuhan virus to back out of the debate.

Maybe Biden will use the Wuhan virus to beat Trump in the debate.

Trump needs to handle this...............

#118 | Posted by brass30 at 2020-03-10 11:01 PM | Reply

"The Cure at Troy," by Seamus Heaney

Human beings suffer,
they torture one another,
they get hurt and get hard.
No poem or play or song
can fully right a wrong
inflicted or endured.

The innocent in gaols
beat on their bars together.
A hunger-striker's father
stands in the graveyard dumb.
The police widow in veils
faints at the funeral home.

History says, Don't hope
on this side of the grave.
But then, once in a lifetime
the longed for tidal wave
of justice can rise up,
and hope and history rhyme.

So hope for a great sea-change
on the far side of revenge.
Believe that a further shore
is reachable from here.
Believe in miracles
and cures and healing wells.

Call the miracle self-healing:
The utter self-revealing
double-take of feeling.
If there's fire on the mountain
Or lightning and storm
And a god speaks from the sky

That means someone is hearing
the outcry and the birth-cry
of new life at its term.


Heaney was one helluva of a poet, and this is a beautiful poem. That Biden has chosen this poem to cite so often speaks volumes about him, and gives me hope for us, all of us, for this country.

#119 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-03-10 11:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Bernie planned on taking out of the pockets of the middle class.
#90 | POSTED BY BRUCEBANNER

Taxes?

You should vote for Trump. He's gonna get rid of all the taxes.

#120 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-03-10 11:17 PM | Reply

You are just not acknowledging the answer I give.

You didn't give a real answer. Healthcare? Biden doesn't have any plans for healthcare. He's gifting it back to the insurers. The CEOs are all getting bonuses!

I will also add his foreign policy experience is the best among all the candidates.

He does love war!

That includes Trump.
#99 | POSTED BY BRUCEBANNER

Your alternate candidate.

At least you'll get to vote for a Republican regardless of who you choose to vote for.

#121 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-03-10 11:20 PM | Reply

#119 -! Beautiful, Gal! Thank you for finding and posting it!

#122 | Posted by YAV at 2020-03-10 11:21 PM | Reply

That's what someone who supports a hole Bernie would say.
#100 | POSTED BY BRUCEBANNER

Of course you think Bernie is an -----. You're still crying over Queen Hillary's royal loss in 2016.

You better hope Biden doesn't repeat her performance in November.

#123 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-03-10 11:22 PM | Reply

Sounds like a Marxist poet from the Lenin-Stalin years.

#124 | Posted by nullifidian at 2020-03-10 11:23 PM | Reply

Big oil
Big pharma
Big banks
... yeah Biden
#101 | POSTED BY 503JC69

That's what today's Democratic Party is all about.

Basically, the new home for people who would have been registered Republican in the 70s.

#125 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-03-10 11:24 PM | Reply

It's a terrible idea to rely on states that won't go your way via EC. That's what I mean.

#93 | POSTED BY LAURAMOHR

Sounds like you are overlooking states like Michigan, Maine, Minnesota, North Carolina and Virgina where Biden also won.

#126 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2020-03-10 11:25 PM | Reply

Biden is not progressive, but he'll have more room than Bernie to enact more progressive

That's the problem, Tony. Biden doesn't have any plans on doing anything progressive. He's getting back into the White House to prevent more damage. But, he's not going to undo anything Trump has done (like his tax cut and deregulations), and he can't undo what the Republican Party have done to the Judicial branch.

Bernie in the White House without both a Dem House and Senate is nothing more than a 4 year argument that will lead nowhere.

This is speculative.

Regardless. Biden is going to be the Nominee. I will vote for him. California will go blue, no matter who.

The rest is up to the rest of the country.

#127 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-03-10 11:31 PM | Reply

You didn't give a real answer. Healthcare? Biden doesn't have any plans for healthcare. He's gifting it back to the insurers. The CEOs are all getting bonuses!

www.healthline.com

He does love war!
That includes Trump.
#99 | POSTED BY BRUCEBANNER

At least you'll get to vote for a Republican regardless of who you choose to vote for.

Yeppers.

#121 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK AT 2020-03-10 11:20 PM | REPLY | FLAG

#128 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2020-03-10 11:32 PM | Reply

Tell us the path you see for Bernie winning 270 electoral votes in November,

There was a website Doc provided a few weeks back with a blank map of America. It allowed you to divy up states to see possible paths candidates had.

It always came down to Pennsylvania or Wisconsin. They were always the tie breakers.

Either way. Good luck in November.

Biden isn't as strong a contender as this DNC run primary would want you to believe.

#129 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-03-10 11:34 PM | Reply

if COVID-19 is still around in November

I doubt we still hear about it come May.

#130 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-03-10 11:35 PM | Reply

Maybe Biden will use the Wuhan virus to back out of the debate.

More likely the DNC will shut down the debate.

They need to protect Biden.

#131 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-03-10 11:38 PM | Reply

#119 -! Beautiful, Gal! Thank you for finding and posting it!

You're welcome, Yav! I saw Heaney read once. Here is the poem in his voice:

www.youtube.com

#132 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-03-10 11:39 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I doubt we still hear about it come May.

According to the experts, we'll be dealing with the virus through next year at minimum. Transmission may slow once warmer weather comes, but it will roar back to life when it gets cold again, likely more lethal than it is right now.

#133 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-03-10 11:39 PM | Reply

Joe is taking away any meaningful option to vote for Bernie in FL next week. Maybe I'll get to vote for Bernie anyway if it's going to be that one-sided>
here.

And upthread I notice that while Trump is dismantling ObamaCare, the out of touch far left is busy helping him by condemn it as "not enough"... which it may well be not enough, but when it's all you've got it's better than the Trump alt of nothing.

Or, as Stephen Colbert said, some people would rather have a broken-glass muffin than half a loaf.

Although in reality it's usually not the perfectionists who are having to eat the muffin, it's people who can't afford insurance at all.

#134 | Posted by Corky at 2020-03-10 11:40 PM | Reply

Oh... and when this is over, it will be time for the outspoken moderates to get offa Bernie's case. I'm looking at you Hulk and Tor.

There isn't a nickel's worth of difference in the FDR-ish progressive policies of any of these Dem candidates, other than the paths to get there.

Bernie seeks the immediacy of both the youth and his last chance to make a difference, and he gets tagged as radical for that. More moderate Dems seek to bring the public along with them incrementally so that they might actually popularize and pass these goals into law... for which they get branded with such BS as "Republican-Lite"

One thing Trump has done that makes moderate Dems more viable now is to show that there is no such thing as the GOP anymore, there is only the radical alt-right and none of these Dems can be confused with them.

#135 | Posted by Corky at 2020-03-10 11:49 PM | Reply

It always came down to Pennsylvania or Wisconsin. They were always the tie breakers.

And Biden is beating Bernie with white voters - both college educated and non, along with white suburbans who showed up huge in 2018 - in each state Biden's won so far, He's far outperforming Hillary Clinton by every measure, even among blacks.

There is no statistical metric that favors Bernie but for youth voters and their percentage of the electorate is miniscule compared to the older demographics.

Trying to compare 2016 when 2018's coalition is repeating itself in most every state so far is a false narrative.

And there's the anti-Trump factor that led 2018. Your fears are likely unwarranted. Voters are choosing the horse they want to back in November, not the Party. Before a week ago Saturday Biden couldn't get a collect call answered at the DNC. The voters picked Joe, not the party.

#136 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-03-10 11:49 PM | Reply

= Beautiful, Gal!

That's what I hear, too! Thanks, great poetry.

#137 | Posted by Corky at 2020-03-10 11:50 PM | Reply

Michael Moore is hitting the nail on its head. He's saying that with all that's going on, it was too much to ask of today's Democratic voters to vote for changing the system and getting rid of Trump at the same time. Voters are rightly scared, and getting rid of Trump is their priority.

It's not an anti-Bernie's policies vote, it's a get Trump the hell out of the White House prioritized vote. We can work on the policy once the main goal is achieved.

#138 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-03-10 11:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Michael Moore is Republican-Lite!!

#139 | Posted by Corky at 2020-03-10 11:59 PM | Reply

America isn't just a place, and it isn't just policies. America is an idea, one that has been badly tarnished during Trump's presidency. I think part of Biden's appeal at this time is that he speaks to the idea of America in ways that resonate with many Democratic voters and with any luck a few Independents and Republicans as well.

#140 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-03-11 12:04 AM | Reply

Michael Moore

As of a couple days ago, Moore was saying Biden couldn't beat Trump.

Guess he's hoping for the best. Gotta find that silver lining.

It's 9 months until Trump's re election.

#141 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-03-11 12:14 AM | Reply

I think part of Biden's appeal at this time is that he...

...was Obama's VP and Democrats are nostalgic for the Obama years.

Seriously. Other that familiarity, Biden has nothing.

I'm not calling him an empty suit to be mean. The guy has nothing going for him other than being Obama's VP.

#142 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-03-11 12:17 AM | Reply

#140

Joe is a "good guy" from a working class background. Trump is a poor excuse for a human being, and it's hard for swing voters not to notice the difference.

#143 | Posted by Corky at 2020-03-11 12:19 AM | Reply

"= Beautiful, Gal!
That's what I hear, too! Thanks, great poetry.

#137 | POSTED BY CORKY "

How could someone who posts as hatefully as you do against people whom you disagree with possibly understand that poem, corky? You may have read or listened to the words, but you don't get them. If you did, you wouldn't be such a hatemonger.

Just sayin'...

#144 | Posted by goatman at 2020-03-11 12:20 AM | Reply

Oh... and when this is over, it will be time for the outspoken moderates to get offa Bernie's case. I'm looking at you Hulk and Tor.

#135 | POSTED BY CORKY AT 2020-03-10 11:49 PM | REPLY

And have a repeat of 2016? You know those boys are going to do everything they can to make Biden lose.

#145 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2020-03-11 12:22 AM | Reply

"Michael Moore is Republican-Lite!!

POSTED BY CORKY "

Michael Moore is an utter idiot regardless whom he supports.

#146 | Posted by goatman at 2020-03-11 12:23 AM | Reply

Corky doesn't hate. Not sure why you'd even say that, Goatmam.

#147 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2020-03-11 12:23 AM | Reply

I'm impressed Sanders is doing as well as he is, considering how much shade he gets from just about every other political outlook.

#148 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-11 12:24 AM | Reply

And have a repeat of 2016?

RCade sell industrial sized buckets of buttpaste, you should stock up.

You know those boys are going to do everything they can to make Biden lose.

Biden doesn't need help to lose. He's perfectly capable of pulling a Hillary all on his own.

#149 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-03-11 12:26 AM | Reply

I'm impressed Sanders is doing as well as he is, considering how...

...the DNC screwed him over.

#150 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-03-11 12:27 AM | Reply

#145

I said when it's over.

- Just sayin'..

Just whining... and off-topic at that. I'm not the one who keeps getting put on vacation around here for his hate speech.

#151 | Posted by Corky at 2020-03-11 12:28 AM | Reply

OH Look!

It's Joltin' Joe's radical bad boy first TV appearance.... He was Leader of the Pack even back then:

www.youtube.com

#152 | Posted by Corky at 2020-03-11 12:30 AM | Reply

"...the DNC screwed him over."

The voters screwed him over this time around.

#153 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-11 12:31 AM | Reply

Things not looking so good for Senator Sanders.

#3 | Posted by _Gunslinger_

Stick a fork in Bernie. He's not gonna make it.

#154 | Posted by jpw at 2020-03-11 12:33 AM | Reply

Gawd this is great.

The best the Dems have is a dementia addled, brain damaged 77, year old.

The establishment's useful idiot.

#4 | Posted by sawdust

You support Trump.

In other words STFU ------.

#155 | Posted by jpw at 2020-03-11 12:33 AM | Reply

"Just whining... and off-topic at that. I'm not the one who keeps getting put on vacation around here for his hate speech.
#151 | POSTED BY CORKY"

Nor am I. I get put in jail because you whine. When is the last time I indulged in name calling you? When and how many times do you do it to me and others? Name calling isn't my schtick as it is yours. I find it far more difficult than you do lower myself to that level of discourse.

Case closed. Try again, big guy.

#156 | Posted by goatman at 2020-03-11 12:36 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

"You support Trump.
In other words STFU ------.
POSTED BY JPW "

Perhaps you should go to an echo chamber where differing opinions are not allowed. You can't be any more unAmerican than to demand that someone shut up simply because you find their opinion offensive.

Go burn some books or something.

#157 | Posted by goatman at 2020-03-11 12:40 AM | Reply

- I get put in jail because you whine

Way to take responsibility for your actions, rwinger.,,, and you managed to lie while doing it. Good job!

#158 | Posted by Corky at 2020-03-11 12:40 AM | Reply

"and you managed to lie while doing it. Good job!

#158 | POSTED BY CORKY"

Citation needed. I've been in jail a lot. Name just one time I was there for childish name calling as you daily indulge in.

Again, case closed.

#159 | Posted by goatman at 2020-03-11 12:42 AM | Reply

"Corky doesn't hate. Not sure why you'd even say that, Goatmam.

#147 | POSTED BY BRUCEBANNER "

LOL Ask him if he hates Trump. You are blind if you've missed that. You are also blind if you have missed his incessant name calling (and me calling him out for it)

#160 | Posted by goatman at 2020-03-11 12:48 AM | Reply

Dan Rather @DanRather

Joe Biden's speech tonight was inclusive, soft-spoken, empathetic, and positive. It was about decency, dignity, and honor. It included one of my favorite words - "steady." It suited him well and may bode for a heck of a showdown of style and substance in November

#161 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-03-11 12:52 AM | Reply

Go burn some books or something.

#157 | Posted by goatman

Come up with something better than the pathetically, ridiculously transparent "disagreement" nonsense.

It has nothing to do with disagreement and everything to do with a complete lack of credibility to comment as he did.

#162 | Posted by jpw at 2020-03-11 01:02 AM | Reply

Yamiche Alcindor @Yamiche

People close to @BernieSanders tonight are acknowledging to me that tonight was a "tough night" but also say they and likely the senator believe there is still a "slim path" to winning the nomination. It seems the next time we hear from Bernie, he will be saying as much.

One source close to @BernieSanders said: Bernie "needs a game changer at debate or implosion by Biden which isn't out of question. But bigger issue is can he get concessions on platform."

Note: Platform concessions became focus in 2016 when it was clear Clinton likely would win.

#163 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-03-11 01:04 AM | Reply

Joe's got it. Probably going to be 4 more years of Trump. Oh well.

#164 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE at 2020-03-11 01:24 AM | Reply

"When is the last time I indulged in name calling you?"

Is the romance over?
That's sad.

#165 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-11 02:57 AM | Reply

Mommas don't let your babies near Pedo Joe..

#166 | Posted by Greatamerican at 2020-03-11 03:24 AM | Reply

Joe does nothing to excite me. Seems like he would be just more of the same. Stagnant wages and a healthcare system that is tied to employers. Unaffordable housing for many. College costs that saddle too many with mounting debt. He may beat Trump but I don't see much of a difference between a moderate Dem and a Republican.

#167 | Posted by byrdman at 2020-03-11 03:56 AM | Reply

Joe has just the right mix of youth and diversity that the Democratic party needs.

#168 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2020-03-11 04:16 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Broad blanket ~ If Biden's status quo is the same as Obama's status quo, then I'm all for it. That was the last time I felt safe in my own country.

Plus, when Trump goes, so will all his toadies, sycophants, grifters, family members and other assorted unsavory hires Trump has managed to corral as no-nothing advisers/cabinet members.

They'll all be gone in one fell swoop.

That will be the bestest thing ever!

#169 | Posted by Twinpac at 2020-03-11 04:26 AM | Reply

I don't see much of a difference between a moderate Dem and a Republican.

It's all red states nominating Biden.

It's no wonder the country keeps moving right politically.

We either get a Conservative Democrat for President, or a batshht crazy and corrupt Republican president.

#170 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-03-11 04:33 AM | Reply

CLOWN

I only see one choice . . . getting rid of Trump and his cabal of cohorts. The rest will fall neatly in line and the country (and the world) can finally take that big sigh of relief.

I know you'll disagree but Bernie Sanders wasn't offering that. All I saw in Sanders and his "revolution" and more chaos in the world. Somehow that didn't seem to gel right, not on top of the chaos we've already endured.

I hope you'll get used to the peace and quiet. It will seem strange without the alarms going off every day.

#171 | Posted by Twinpac at 2020-03-11 05:04 AM | Reply

Sanders's last hope for a notable win tonight is in Washington, where polls close in 20 minutes. Sanders spent $490,000 on ads there. Biden spent about $1,000. --Nick Corasaniti www.nytimes.com

#172 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-11 05:12 AM | Reply

"It's all red states nominating Biden."

You know what you're talking about.
Turnout in Michigan was 2.5x compared to 2016.

#173 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-11 05:14 AM | Reply

I doubt if Trump will be sitting around in the White House apartment watching himself get asswhipped on November 3rd.

Chances are he'll sit it out in Mara-a-Lago surround by his sympathizers.

#174 | Posted by Twinpac at 2020-03-11 05:14 AM | Reply

From twitter.com
Washington state, per exit poll
White, no college degree
Biden 45%
Sanders 33%
Warren 9%

White, college+
Biden 42%
Sanders 26%
Warren 16%
[These two groups make up >80% of the WA Dem electorate]

And this comment:
Sydra
@sydrasmith
Starting to think Bernie got a long way on anti-HRC sentiment + caucuses. With an assist from brogressive journalists.

#175 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-11 05:18 AM | Reply

"Starting to think Bernie got a long way on anti-HRC sentiment "

That's the ONLY thing he had going for him. But there's no Hilary to kick around this time and there is no anti-Biden sentiment.

It seems to me that Bernie didn't take that into account for this run.

#176 | Posted by Twinpac at 2020-03-11 05:43 AM | Reply

Broad blanket ~ If Biden's status quo is the same as Obama's status quo, then I'm all for it. That was the last time I felt safe in my own country.

#169 | POSTED BY TWINPAC AT 2020-03-11 04:26 AM

Safe from what? Your personal safety is most likely to be jeopardized by somebody you know and the president has no control over it.

#177 | Posted by byrdman at 2020-03-11 05:58 AM | Reply

It's all red states nominating Biden.

Errr... Michigan was a reliably blue state until Trump (and Hillary) came along in 2016. Michigan is resoundingly blue again after Democratic women swept all major elected state offices in 2018.

The upshot is that when Clinton narrowly lost the Michigan primary to Sanders four years ago, 40 percent of those surveyed by exit pollsters answered "no" when asked if she was "honest and trustworthy." Only 11 percent offered this negative verdict on Sanders, and that was one key to his upset victory.

But without Clinton to run against, Sanders's candidacy is much weaker. It's now clear from the primaries so far that many of Sanders's 2016 ballots came from voters who did not necessarily agree with his progressive-populist political views but were motivated by hostility to Clinton.

Just as disturbing for Republican strategists is a shift away from Sanders and toward Biden among Michigan's white voters, upscale and blue collar alike. In 2016, Sanders carried white college graduates by a decent margin and whites without college degrees by even more. On Tuesday, both groups swung to Biden.

And if Trump's backing among his core groups is in jeopardy, Democrats are energized in their opposition to him not simply from discontent but from outright anger. For example, among the voters in Michigan, better than 6 in 10 told the Edison Media Research exit poll that the Trump administration made them angry. Almost all of the rest said they were dissatisfied. www.washingtonpost.com

There is not one scintilla of evidence that remotely indicates that Joe Biden will not obliterate the 10,000 vote difference that allowed Trump to win the state in 2016. This election is a referendum on Trump, full stop. At this point, anyone claiming that somehow Biden is poised to lose to Trump - especially in Michigan - is paddling upstream, against the roiling tide... on the river Denial.

#178 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-03-11 07:07 AM | Reply

That coward Sanders didn't even thank his voters and volunteers and campaign workers and donors! Wth? He is a sociopath.

#179 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2020-03-11 08:13 AM | Reply

Biden for Senate 2020!

"Joe Biden: "These are all people been working like the devil to try to get us elected as the, uh, so I want to thank you"

#180 | Posted by nullifidian at 2020-03-11 09:17 AM | Reply

#180 projection noted.

#181 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2020-03-11 09:28 AM | Reply

Crazy Joe Demento it is.

#182 | Posted by visitor_ at 2020-03-11 10:17 AM | Reply

Crazy Joe Demento it is.

#182 | POSTED BY VISITOR_

Eat schit Trumper.

#183 | Posted by jpw at 2020-03-11 12:45 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Remember to wash your hands.

#184 | Posted by visitor_ at 2020-03-11 01:26 PM | Reply

"Joe Biden: "These are all people been working like the devil to try to get us elected as the, uh, so I want to thank you"
#180 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN AT 2020-03-11 09:17 AM | REPLY

I've known a few stutterers in my life, and they are always looking for words to substitute for words that catch them up. Perhaps "Presidency" at the end of a sentence is one of Joe's problems. Certainly the plosive "P" is one of the letters that catches a lot of folks with a stutter, and it's worse when the stutterer is tired. Joe probably saw "Presidency" coming up, searched for a different word and then gave up on it.

#185 | Posted by _Gunslinger_ at 2020-03-11 03:39 PM | Reply

AT least Joe can read off a telprompter, unlike Combover Quisling with his fifth grade vocabulary, does "Hamberders" ring a bell, or perhaps slurring on "God bless the United Shtadsh."

#186 | Posted by _Gunslinger_ at 2020-03-11 03:40 PM | Reply

I expected some of our posters to respond like they have. (Nulli, Visitor, Sheeple, Clown and such like)

It's the butthurt coming out. Be kind and sympathize. We've all felt the sting of defeat sometime in our life.

It hurts like hell.

#187 | Posted by Twinpac at 2020-03-12 04:26 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

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