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Drudge Retort: The Other Side of the News
Tuesday, March 17, 2020

For weeks, some of Fox News's most popular hosts downplayed the threat of the coronavirus, characterizing it as a conspiracy by media organizations and Democrats to undermine President Trump. Fox News personalities such as Sean Hannity and Laura InÂgraham accused the news media of whipping up "mass hysteria" and being "panic pushers." Fox Business host Trish Regan called the alleged media-Democratic alliance "yet another attempt to impeach the president." But that was then. With Trump's declaration on Friday that the virus constitutes a national emergency, the tone on Fox News has quickly shifted.

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That's okay. Many Fox News viewers don't remember what Fox said three weeks ago anyway.

Fox News viewers; the audience most likely to have dementia.

#1 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2020-03-17 11:01 AM | Reply

Fox News will soon be berating Democrats for not taking coronavirus as seriously as Dear Leader.

#2 | Posted by rcade at 2020-03-17 11:04 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

Fox News Singing a Different Tune on Coronavirus...after lying about it for weeks first and helping the virus spread in order to protect their con man cult leader.

#3 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2020-03-17 11:54 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

I think it finally dawned on them the viewer demographics represent the most vulnerable. Suddenly they saw the potential of losing a substantial segment of their market share.

DOH!!!

#4 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2020-03-17 12:11 PM | Reply

"With Trump's declaration on Friday that the virus constitutes a national emergency, the tone on Fox News has quickly shifted."

Deplorables have no shame.

#5 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-03-17 12:12 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

It should be interesting if the US does manage to quickly get this under control the next few weeks, then we'll be hearing people say, "see..I told you it was being overblown"

I don't watch Fox so I don't know what they've said but if they have raised their alarm, OK...shows me they can evolve and change their views.

I don't see the big deal about this.

#6 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2020-03-17 12:18 PM | Reply

I don't see the big deal about this.
#6 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

Why is that not surprising?

#7 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-03-17 12:45 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 8

#4 | Posted by RightisTrite

Fox spreading the garbage may solve 2 problems at once - Fox voters and SS issues.

#8 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2020-03-17 12:46 PM | Reply

Rsty,

From what I'm reading the biggest potential problem is the number of people sick at the same time and a shortage of ventilators.

Considering it's likely been in the US since Nov being spread by people who were mildly ill, when all is said and done the morality rate may end up being lower than being reported.

Face it. Trump is on it when things are heating up. You can't just tell everyone to stop their daily routines until it reaches a certain point.

#9 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2020-03-17 12:56 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"see..I told you it was being overblown"

trump wanted to do nothing because it was a Democratic hoax. Me and grandma would rather be overblown than be under blown by you deplorables.

Trumps is at the microphone trying to blow you right now.

Bragging that he closed all travel to China and if not for that.... After it was already too late and the airlines had already acted without him and the virus had already escaped to Europe and beyond.

What a Buffoon.

You must be proud.

#10 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-03-17 12:57 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I don't watch Fox ... I don't see the big deal about this.

If you had been watching Fox News for the past three weeks before this 180, you would be alarmed and angered by what they were saying. It was incredibly dangerous, particularly for an audience that leans so heavily towards the elderly. One of their morning goons was telling people less than a week ago this was the safest time to fly!

#11 | Posted by rcade at 2020-03-17 01:03 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Donner,

The hoax comment is being taken out of context.

If you expect me to believe Trump actually believed the virus was a figment of our imagination, that is absurd.

What is not a hoax is the way some Democrats have turned this into a political issue.

That will come back to haunt them much like Hillary's "deplorable".

Trump supporters are not a bunch of dummies like you suppose.

#12 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2020-03-17 01:09 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

Rcade,

Do all conservatives and/or Republicans watch Fox News?

Fault the commentator...not the entire organization.

#13 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2020-03-17 01:18 PM | Reply

Face it. Trump is on it when things are heating up. You can't just tell everyone to stop their daily routines until it reaches a certain point.

#9 | Posted by BillJohnson

Trump is still lying about it and downplaying it today. Is that your definition of "on it?"

#14 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2020-03-17 01:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

My life is being dirupted,I want to change the channel,like NOW!

#15 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2020-03-17 01:22 PM | Reply

Trump supporters are not a bunch of dummies like you suppose.

#12 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

Trump supporters believed him when he ridiculously claimed the number of cases would soon be "near zero".

They believed him when he ridiculously claimed sick people should still go to work to "get better".

I could go on and on just about this one subject.

#16 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar at 2020-03-17 01:48 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Rcade,
Do all conservatives and/or Republicans watch Fox News?
Fault the commentator...not the entire organization.

#13 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

All of your posts basically defend Fox News.

1. Blame the Commentator.
2. If it dies down, Fox was right.
3. Not all people watch Fox.
4. The biggest issue is just not enough hospital beds and equipment.

You obviously don't have a clue whats going on. Fox News let their anchors and personalities tell people this was just like the flu and its okay to go out.

They could have muzzled their anchors and personalities. They could have fired them for endangering people. Instead, they let them play this up as not dangerous and as a way for Democrats to attack Trump.

Fox News is likely responsible for helping get a lot of people killed in the next few months.

Trump and Fox News are certainly responsible for a large portion of Republicans not taking this thing seriously.

Your defense is absolutely pathetic.

#17 | Posted by Sycophant at 2020-03-17 01:50 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 6

Trump supporters are not a bunch of dummies like you suppose.
#12 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON AT 2020-03-17 01:09 PM | REPLY | PFFFFTTTTT

They are about Trumplethinskin... who is leaving office in disgrace.

#18 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2020-03-17 01:51 PM | Reply

Trump supporters are not a bunch of dummies like you suppose.
#12 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON
They are about Trumplethinskin... who is leaving office in disgrace.
#18 | POSTED BY RIGHTISTRITE

He's right.

They are actually dumber than we thought.

Hey, Trump said there were 15 cases and it would be down to 0 quickly. Are we down to 0 yet?

No?

Oh... I guess that's why we will be heading into a nationwide quarantine in the next week.

#19 | Posted by Sycophant at 2020-03-17 01:53 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

All it took was a plague and a depression to wake some Fox Snooze idiots up!

Hannity is not teachable, unfortunately.

#20 | Posted by anton at 2020-03-17 01:58 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Hoax News Network

#21 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-17 02:09 PM | Reply

Trump supporters are not a bunch of dummies like you suppose.

#12 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

Right-wing conspiracy theorists and supporters of President Donald Trump bombarded an Illinois mayor after he declared coronavirus an emergency because they don't believe it's a crisis.

The New York Times reported Tuesday, Champaign, IL Mayor Deborah Frank Feinen, like many leaders, is being forced to respond to the coronavirus. After issuing an emergency declaration, she was bombarded with an attack from the National Rifle Association sending out a "national alert" saying "anti-gun extremists" were moving "to undermine our firearms freedom." Non-stop attacks followed.

"We were talking about how to get food to kids when schools were closed, and suddenly I'm getting Facebook messages about how I'm violating the Constitution and taking away people's rights," said Feinen.

So, while she was trying to care for people in her city, coordinating fire and police departments, gathering emergency supplies, helping small businesses handle closures, she's being faced with attacks and watching for dangerous death threats.

Raw Story

#22 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar at 2020-03-17 02:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Italy is an example of what happens when a nation has fox-news thinking. Bill Johnson is very very wrong. I think it's a good idea to stay away from places where there are a lot of conservatives pretending to be tougher than a virus.

#23 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2020-03-17 02:46 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Just one point about the "hoax" comment Trump made, in regards to the virus.

He certainly didn't mean the virus was was a "hoax" in that it didn't exist. But he did mean the Dems were trying to politicize it against him.

However, when you get up in front of your rowdy, cheering fans and use the word "hoax" in the same sentence as "coronavirus", you are doing yourself a huge diservice.

Can anyone really say that people heard that and didn't think he mean the virus was fake?

#24 | Posted by brass30 at 2020-03-17 02:51 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Brass,

Considering what was going on on China I seriously doubt his comment was taken to mean it was truly made up unless you don't have a TV, internet or radio.

#25 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2020-03-17 03:33 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"From what I'm reading the biggest potential problem is the number of people sick at the same time and a shortage of ventilators.

Considering it's likely been in the US since Nov being spread by people who were mildly ill, when all is said and done the morality rate may end up being lower than being reported.

Face it. Trump is on it when things are heating up. You can't just tell everyone to stop their daily routines until it reaches a certain point.
#9 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON AT 2020-03-17 12:56 PM | FLAG: "

I'm not sure that you are understanding what you are reading.

The biggest problem is that covid-19 is a killer, particularly for vulnerable groups. I don't think we have a handle on general mortality rates yet, but even the most optimistic assessment is that the rate is much higher than seasonal flu. The issue you identify is a separate problem, where people who would otherwise have survived, don't, because of a shortage of medical facilities. There is a third problem as well - that patients with non-covid-19 health issues that require the same medical resources die because of shortages.

Your assessment that "Trump is on it " is overly rose tinted in my opinion.

He may have gone from denying it was a problem and over estimating how quickly the virus would dissipate to saying at least some of the right things, but that does not make him "on it" in my book. His underlying motivation is all wrong. He cares only for his re-election chances and as a secondary issue to this, the level of the stock market. The actual welfare of the American people for their own sakes is not high on his priorities. Consequently, any action and the timing of those actions, is assessed first and foremost in the context of his first priority - re-election and not what should be his first priority - the welfare of his citizens.

There may be a time to come when the actions required to be taken - e.g. limiting civil liberties for the benefit of all - could be very unpopular in the run up to an election. This would be the acid test for Trump. Would he do the right thing, knowing it will hurt his chances of re-election, or will be chose the self-centered path?

#26 | Posted by Foreigner at 2020-03-17 03:33 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Syc,

You aren't giving people credit for having their own brains.

Do you honestly think Democrats are the only people who think rationally?

#27 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2020-03-17 03:39 PM | Reply

For,

Read what I wrote. When all is said and done is when better numbers can be estimated.

When it's over.

You're right. Right now we can only estimate.

I think we're way past people not understanding the danger.

Find another dead horse to beat.

#28 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2020-03-17 03:46 PM | Reply

If you had been watching Fox News for the past three weeks before this 180, you would be alarmed and angered by what they were saying...

#11 | Posted by rcade

You give Fox viewers way too much credit. My buddy who is a very intelligent guy - I am dead serious when I say that - and in the whole Trump is great bandwagon thinks it was just masterful planning on the part of the Trump. That announcing things earlier would have resulted in civil unrest and panic. Martial law blah blah blah.

Now do you see why I had to be clear I KNOW this guy is very intelligent? I grew up with him, went to engineering school with him and helped him start a business. I can not believe the things he says today.

#29 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2020-03-17 04:00 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Trump supporters are not a bunch of dummies like you suppose.

+

I don't watch Fox so I don't know what they've said but if they have raised their alarm, OK...shows me they can evolve and change their views.

#12 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

Pretty much anyone can be brain washed. When all you listen to and are exposed to is fear and lies it is easy to become a brain washed "dummy". I don't know if Social Media is the base or Fox or it is a circular----------- at this point but the same things Fox mouthpieces are spouting is everywhere in right wing circles. It's not even "talking points" it is just crazy talk.

#30 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2020-03-17 04:04 PM | Reply

Face it. Trump is on it when things are heating up. You can't just tell everyone to stop their daily routines until it reaches a certain point.

Bwhahahahaha! You're kidding right? That's your response?

It was heating up overseas, that was our alert.......we were late in the response (not all Trump's fault).

But he loses credibility with his early comments that were simply comical. And yes, people simply listen to him over the news/facts.

#31 | Posted by brass30 at 2020-03-17 04:20 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

For,

Read what I wrote. When all is said and done is when better numbers can be estimated.

When it's over.

You're right. Right now we can only estimate.

I think we're way past people not understanding the danger.

Find another dead horse to beat.

#28 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON AT 2020-03-17 03:46 PM | FLAG: #28 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON AT 2020-03-17 03:46 PM | FLAG: "

Try as I may, the only sense I can make of your post is that you are telling me that if we just wait until it's over, we will have better estimates of numbers.

I cannot fault the logic and this would have the advantage that we'll be able to plan a response down to the last hospital bed, unfortunately with an offsetting disadvantage that the pandemic will be over and people will be dead.

Weren't you the one who earlier posted:

" You aren't giving people credit for having their own brains. Do you honestly think Democrats are the only people who think rationally?" I'm happy to give you credit for your post.

#32 | Posted by Foreigner at 2020-03-17 05:00 PM | Reply

Considering it's likely been in the US since Nov being spread by people who were mildly ill, when all is said and done the morality rate may end up being lower than being reported.
Face it. Trump is on it when things are heating up. You can't just tell everyone to stop their daily routines until it reaches a certain point.
#9 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

No wonder you don't know what the big deal is, you don't even know what's going on!

It was here in November. It had only just emerged in Wuhan in November.

And no, Trump wasn't "on it". That's why we now have widespread community transmission that we're blind to because he was so deficient in the early response we STILL don't have the ability to widely test.

#33 | Posted by jpw at 2020-03-17 05:47 PM | Reply

It fun reading you all try to talk sense to billjohnson.

The guy is a literal lost cause.

#34 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-03-17 06:03 PM | Reply

- Trump is on it when things are heating up.

But enough about Stormy...

#35 | Posted by Corky at 2020-03-17 06:07 PM | Reply

For,

Yes...that's what I meant.

When this thing is over we'll have enough information to create acceptable statistics.

One interesting thing about time.

After the fact everyone's an expert.

#36 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2020-03-17 06:43 PM | Reply

Trump and Fox News forget that all the denials were recorded on video cameras.

Since the first confirmed case in Washington State, Trump and Fox News denied there was a possible pandemic coming. Last Friday, Treas Sec Steve Mnuchin told Americans to go out and eat

#37 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2020-03-18 03:37 AM | Reply

Trump and Fox News forget that all the denials were recorded on video cameras.

#37 | POSTED BY AMERICANUNITY

Doesn't matter. Conservatives will still claim that it is fake news even when presented with direct video evidence of reporting from a conservative news outlet.

Once they commit to their sycophancy, there is no wavering, regardless what "facts" and "reality" may show.

#38 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2020-03-18 11:08 AM | Reply

Trump supporters are not a bunch of dummies like you suppose.

#12 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

Umm yes Dummy you are a dummy.

If you believe anything that The King of the 16000 Lies days without verification then you are a dummy and a fool.

a dummy.

a Bigly Beautiful Dummy.

The biggest bestest dummy ever.

Anyway, that's what the People are saying.

#39 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-03-18 11:41 AM | Reply

For people like BJ, here's an explanation of why constantly downplaying the pandemic, claiming the Dems and news media created a hoax, constitutes its own kind of emergency. Check out this new poll of Americans' views on the threat posed by COVID-19, from YouGov and The Economist:

Percent who say they are worried about the virus, by media they most pay attention to:

MSNBC: 74%
National newspapers (NYT/WaPo): 72
CNN: 71
Broadcast news: 68
Local news: 57
Radio: 49
Fox News: 38
""

% who say they disapprove of how the president has handled coronavirus, by where they get the most news:

MSNBC: 89%
National newspapers: 85
CNN: 83
Local newspapers: 58
Broadcast news: 47
Local TV news: 39
Radio: 49
Fox News: 8

docs.cdn.yougov.com

In other words, a lot of Fox viewers were still thinking the president was right, the whole dang thing might be a hoax, and that they love Trump with their entire being, and they kind of feel like going out somewhere, like maybe to a Trump rally, or a cruise.

#40 | Posted by cbob at 2020-03-18 02:50 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

In other words, a lot of Fox viewers were still thinking the president was right, the whole dang thing might be a hoax, and that they love Trump with their entire being, and they kind of feel like going out somewhere, like maybe to a Trump rally, or a cruise.

#40 | POSTED BY CBOB

Obviously not very smart people. But trumpy does love him some stupid. Also called his "base".

Heard a story about someone who called in to one of those pandemic pandemoniums question/answers and said he that had the virus and was nothing and he was just fine. It was nothing!

Coincidentally he has this snowball that also proves global warming is also a hoax.

And Fox News said that them Libby snowflakes are in a panic over a few sniffles.

#41 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-03-18 03:05 PM | Reply

% who say they disapprove of how the president has handled coronavirus, by where they get the most news:
MSNBC: 89%
National newspapers: 85
CNN: 83
Local newspapers: 58
Broadcast news: 47
Local TV news: 39
Radio: 49
Fox News: 8

Rasmussen must be so envious right now!

#42 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-18 03:43 PM | Reply

CBob,

"a lot of Fox viewers were still thinking the president was right, the whole dang thing might be a hoax, and that they love Trump"

According to the internet, Fox had 2.5 million viewers in 2019.

How many millions of people in the US are conservative? Way more than 2.5.

That means a LOT of conservatives do not watch Fox contrary to the straw-men people like you put up.

You give Fox entirely too much credit for influencing your typical conservative.

And the people who do watch Fox, do you not think they might be getting news from other sources as well?

Putting up straw-men and beating dead horses.

Don't you people have anything else to do?

#43 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2020-03-18 07:36 PM | Reply

Don't you people have anything else to do?
#43 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON AT 2020-03-18 07:36 PM | FLAG:

Go away, child, you bore me.

#44 | Posted by cbob at 2020-03-18 10:30 PM | Reply

Don't you people have anything else to do?
#43 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

Well. We would be impeaching and removing a corrupt president if we would have a Republican Senate that could uphold its oath of office but we have a pandemic to deal with at the moment. Being as how we were completely unprepared for it thanks to our corrupt president we have to deal with that right now.

#45 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-03-19 12:42 PM | Reply

Spoke with a business owner today who surprised me.

He is still shaking hands. He's conservative.

There are liberal and conservative business owners who aren't getting it.

Maybe the US will need to declare national emergency.

#46 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2020-03-19 05:00 PM | Reply

Fox News is going to be sued for
$$$ billions $$$
by people who listened to Fox News and heard about the hoax and went out and socialized and got Coronavirus.

It's the American Way.
I think RightOCenter is already drafting the paperwork!

#47 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-19 10:15 PM | Reply

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