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Thursday, March 19, 2020

Once signed into law by Trump, the over $100 billion bill will provide some sick leave, childcare leave, and a variety of other measures. But negotiations over a much larger bill to save the economy have just begun.

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We could have had this done a week ago.

#1 | Posted by Zed at 2020-03-19 09:33 AM | Reply

We should have had many things done months ago that they are just now addressing because the administration was in total denial until the pandemic has become monumental. We need a real President, not this Libertarian crazy person.

#2 | Posted by danni at 2020-03-19 10:11 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

We need a real President, not this Libertarian crazy person.

#2 | POSTED BY DANNI AT 2020-03-19 10:11 AM | REPLY | FLAG:

Actually he's wannabe libertaricl0wns. That $#!t goes out the door the minute they have to pay for it themselves.

But you watch... just as when Bushturd2 left office in disgrace suddenly the clown brigade will morph into "I was really always more like a libertarian than a republican" nonsense. That is what they did last time this batch will do the same. libertaricl0wns are just delusional, disillusioned republicl0wns shape shifting after they screw up... nothing more. They are incapable of surviving by their own tenets.

#3 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2020-03-19 10:45 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Thanks Pelosi!

#4 | Posted by bored at 2020-03-19 11:24 AM | Reply

Our children and grandchildren are sooo screwed.

#5 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2020-03-19 11:56 AM | Reply

"We need a real President, not this Libertarian crazy person."

If Trump was a libertarian, you wouldn't be getting your taxpayer-funded check.

#6 | Posted by madbomber at 2020-03-19 12:01 PM | Reply

"Libertaricl0wns are just delusional, disillusioned republicl0wns shape shifting after they screw up... nothing more. They are incapable of surviving by their own tenets."

Not at all. In fact some polls showed that Gary Johnson pulled as many votes away from Hillary as he did from Trump. It's not hard to imagine that there are a lot of socially liberal fiscal conservatives out there who traditionally identify as Democrats vote libertarian if/when the party starts going off the rails. I think with Hillary it was different because she was very centrist-just not well liked.

#7 | Posted by madbomber at 2020-03-19 12:08 PM | Reply

And you would love that. Why? Just a turd. Mean to the bone, people have needs, government should at least try to help. The military is government,not too libertarian when it comes to YOUR bread and butter,huh, total F**king hypocrite. You make me want to SPEW!!

#8 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2020-03-19 12:10 PM | Reply

"If Trump was a libertarian, you wouldn't be getting your taxpayer-funded check."

Even Libertarians fear massive panic. Any money Congress gives us now is an attempt to avoid a panic which would endanger everyone in this country, rich, poor and in between.

#9 | Posted by danni at 2020-03-19 12:14 PM | Reply

"Not at all. In fact some polls showed that Gary Johnson pulled as many votes away from Hillary as he did from Trump. It's not hard to imagine that there are a lot of socially liberal fiscal conservatives out there who traditionally identify as Democrats vote libertarian if/when the party starts going off the rails. "

Obama did raise maximum income taxes to 39%. Was that "going off the rails?" His policies DID resurrect the Bush economy, put millions back to work, saved millions of homes, and actually was moving towards a balanced budget. Then Trump came in and blew up the budget, slashed taxes again and, predictably, destroyed the economy again. It seems that is what Republicans love to do. Democrats build, Republicans destroy.

And Gary Johnson? Who gives a s**t about Gary Johnson? Why does anyone run for office when they know the best they can achieve is to be a spoiler in the race? It's irresponsible and actually quite unpatriotic. I wouldn't spit on Johnson if he was on fire.

Truth that Republicans and Libertarians deny though now courts have begun recognizing: More votes were suppressed in Swing States that the margin by which Trump won in those states. Laugh, pretend otherwise but it is a f*****g fact and pretty soon, as our world gets worse, Americans are going to start wanting to know how we ended up with this con man in the WH and hold those responsible for it accountable.

#10 | Posted by danni at 2020-03-19 12:22 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Nader, Stein, Johnson: what do they all have in common? Egos. Ego before country is a terrible thing. When Bernie lost to Hillary, even after the DNC cheated him, he still did what was best for the nation. That's a patriot. Those other three aren't.

#11 | Posted by danni at 2020-03-19 12:25 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Our children and grandchildren are sooo screwed.

#5 | POSTED BY WHATSLEFT AT 2020-03-19 11:56 AM | FLAG: SCUSE ME?

MY generation was handed a nuke bomb.

Thus farrrrrrr.... we've managed not to use it... and maybe... just maybe, if this virus culls enough from the crazy pool.... the progeny will survive.

#12 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2020-03-19 12:33 PM | Reply

"Thus farrrrrrr.... we've managed not to use it... and maybe... just maybe, if this virus culls enough from the crazy pool.... the progeny will survive."

Unfortunately viruses don't evaluate sanity before they infect.

#13 | Posted by danni at 2020-03-19 12:38 PM | Reply

"Even Libertarians fear massive panic."

The human response to this thing has been worse than the damn virus itself.

"Any money Congress gives us now is an attempt to avoid a panic which would endanger everyone in this country, rich, poor and in between."

Not really. It's no longer a rich vs. poor argument. This is young vs. old. Basically, the entire world is being put on hold for old people.

#14 | Posted by madbomber at 2020-03-19 02:17 PM | Reply

And Gary Johnson? Who gives a s**t about Gary Johnson? Why does anyone run for office when they know the best they can achieve is to be a spoiler in the race?

I dunno. We could ask Bernie.

"It's irresponsible and actually quite unpatriotic. I wouldn't spit on Johnson if he was on fire."

Would you spit on Bernie as well?

#15 | Posted by madbomber at 2020-03-19 02:19 PM | Reply

This whole COVID thing...is anyone seeing the positive sides? It's basically shattering paradigms that have existed for centuries. My kids no longer attend school in person. They do it via internet. How is this going to shape education in the future? And working from home...why would an employer pay for a brick and mortar space when they can simply pay the employee to do the work from home.

Like I said, the response has been stupid, IMO, but it's creating disruptive changes that will likely lead to a new normal, where society takes all the lessons learned from this thing and applies them in an environment where the population isn't perceived as being held at risk.

#16 | Posted by madbomber at 2020-03-19 02:24 PM | Reply

And Gary Johnson? Who gives a s**t about Gary Johnson? Why does anyone run for office when they know the best they can achieve is to be a spoiler in the race? It's irresponsible and actually quite unpatriotic.

How is it irresponsible and unpatriotic?

#17 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-03-19 02:27 PM | Reply

The human response to this thing has been worse than the damn virus itself.

I said from the beginning that social and economic disruptions would be worse than the virus itself.

So far that's holding true.

#16 | Posted by madbomber

I was listening to NPR in the car this morning on my way in to work and they were talking about how theater companies are worried about the precedent of movies being directly released to consumers for rent or streaming.

The worry is that people will get used to watching new releases in the comfort of their own homes and that studios won't return to the previous model of there being a period of time where the movie is only available in theaters.

Interesting thinking about how many other aspects of our economy could be shown as unnecessary in that regard in the coming months.

#18 | Posted by jpw at 2020-03-19 03:22 PM | Reply

Madbomber,you're 45 or so? Logan's run, you'd have been dead and gone,15 years now.
Do you want that for everyone, or just Everyone not you?
This plague, is going to show everyone's ASS before it's over, you can be sure.

#19 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2020-03-19 03:36 PM | Reply

#19

The mortality rate for those under 50 is

#20 | Posted by madbomber at 2020-03-19 03:57 PM | Reply

#19

The mortality rate for those under 50 is less than .4%. 50-59 it's 1.3%. 60-69 is 3.6%. 70-79 is 8%. The last group is at 14.8%

Let me flip this around. If you had a .4% chance of something good happening in return for a massive upheaval in your life, would you take it?

That's 1/250 odds. I'm not really worried about contracting COVID, and I am less worried about dying from it. What I am worried about are the long-term effects if the world remains shut down. If that's the case, we may as well have the plague running rampant. Or the Nipa Virus. In eighteen months-if it goes on that long, there may not be much left.

But I say that as the eternal pessimist. What I have seen from my vantage point is that society is adapting incredibly quickly to the new paradigm. The challenge will be with those who refuse to adapt.

Also, I learned something. I had initially used the "less than" sign before .4%, which seemed to have triggered some weird deletion function.

#21 | Posted by madbomber at 2020-03-19 04:00 PM | Reply

"The worry is that people will get used to watching new releases in the comfort of their own homes and that studios won't return to the previous model of there being a period of time where the movie is only available in theaters."

Sounds like one of them rich white man burdens.

Never heard of Netflix or amazon prime? There are countless ways to see a movie at home already. So what it's not a "new release". There are hundreds of thousands of "old releases". Ugly people have been practicing social distancing their whole lives. It's called patience. Welcome to their world. After people figure out how to not give each other the cooties they will be back at the movies and everywhere. Humans are primates and primates are social creatures.

#22 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-03-19 04:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Never heard of Netflix or amazon prime? There are countless ways to see a movie at home already. So what it's not a "new release". There are hundreds of thousands of "old releases".

Why would you say something so stupid? Duh, I've never heard of streaming services.

The point, moron, is that people will get accustomed to ordering new releases at home instead of going to a theater, leading to a lack of incentive to return to the old model when this thing passes.

#23 | Posted by jpw at 2020-03-19 04:22 PM | Reply

"Ugly people, like me, have been practicing social distancing our whole lives. It's called patience. Welcome to my world."

ft

#24 | Posted by eberly at 2020-03-19 04:59 PM | Reply

#22/#23

Paradigm shift.

Even before COVID, studios were discussing the possibility of premium streaming services where a family could rent a new release at home. I think the problem is setting a price point that is amenable to consumers, but still high enough to ensure the movie is profitable. Personally, I can't step foot in a theater without dropping $60-$80...so it seems like the price point is fairly high.

Theaters would likely be a thing of the past though.

#25 | Posted by madbomber at 2020-03-19 05:07 PM | Reply

Life could return to normal. If immunity was developed or the virus became widespread. Eventually. Not much good for the people here now. Game over, check and mate.

#26 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2020-03-20 01:29 AM | Reply

"Ugly people, like me, have been practicing social distancing our whole lives. It's called patience. Welcome to my world."

ft

#24 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Exactly Beverly. Welcome to our world.

And stop swinging your purse at me!

#27 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-03-20 10:59 AM | Reply

"The point, moron, is that people will get accustomed to ordering new releases at home instead of going to a theater, "

I didn't call you a moron and I wasn't referring to you personally.

I was referring to humans in general.

The point was humans are primates. And primates are social animals. You can't change them in a few weeks and you will not keep them from doing social things for very long and definitely not forever. It's in our nature to be social.

Sorry you took it personally.

Now having said that there are some very fine movies that do address social isolation and the issues that will arise. Also some great virus flicks. We should all take a break and watch them.

Also watch World War Z and when you go out pretend you have the virus and stay away from everyone else like they have it. But don't chop off your hand if you touch someone. Just go wash it. A lot.

#28 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-03-20 11:07 AM | Reply

"Also some great virus flicks. We should all take a break and watch them."

Contagion. This weekend. With my kids.

Followed immediately by Requiem for a Dream.

I have daughters. They'll never kiss, or do drugs.

#29 | Posted by madbomber at 2020-03-20 02:28 PM | Reply

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