Drudge Retort: The Other Side of the News
Saturday, March 21, 2020

In an extraordinary exchange on Friday, President Donald Trump viciously attacked an NBC News reporter who asked what his message would be to Americans who are frightened by the coronavirus pandemic that is spreading across the country.

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Portrait of man unravelling.

#1 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-03-21 12:51 AM | Reply

Jeff's unraveling by desperately deflecting blame from Trump by blaming China.

#2 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2020-03-21 01:05 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Jeff's unraveling by desperately deflecting blame from Trump by blaming China.

#2 | Posted by LauraMohr

Trump's doing the same thing.

He was briefed about this spreading in the U.S. months ago and did nothing to prepare us.

In fact, he was still denying it would be a problem in the U.S. last week.

#3 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2020-03-21 01:26 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1


... President Donald Trump viciously attacked an NBC News reporter ...

Yeah. Pres Trump needs to work on how he responds to those who do not agree with him.

That is a substantially great thing about the press, they ask questions of those in power that I would ask. They, effectively, are my proxy.

Pres Trump is telling me directly that my concerns are "nasty."

Pres Trump has not a clue regarding how to lead a country in the time of crisis, so he lashes out. Against those who the Constitution guarantees.

Sad to see the augst position of the Office of the President being trashed in such a manner.

So very Sad.

#4 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-03-21 01:28 AM | Reply

Don't most presidents have some kind of PR staff that stops that kind of public nonsense?

#5 | Posted by REDIAL at 2020-03-21 02:02 AM | Reply

@#5 ... Don't most presidents have some kind of PR staff that stops that kind of public nonsense? ...

Most Presidents don't need the staff you mention to prevent them from saying stupid things.

Pres Trump seem to be of a differing opinion.

And I'll leave it at that for now.

#6 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-03-21 02:07 AM | Reply

He needs a rally fix ... his ego is going through withdrawals.

#7 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2020-03-21 05:10 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

OOOOOOOOOO the republicl0wn penchant for blaming the victim is starting early. They must be desperate.

#8 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2020-03-21 06:40 AM | Reply

It has been clear for many years to anybody who bothers paying attention that this guy is self-serving, incompetent and utterly incapable of empathy. This crisis is only exacerbating those failings.

#9 | Posted by cbob at 2020-03-21 08:15 AM | Reply

Time to invoke the 25th amendment.

#10 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2020-03-21 09:49 AM | Reply

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Trump is cracking under the pressure.

He is not fit for the job.

#11 | Posted by bored at 2020-03-21 10:34 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#10 - I completely agree.

Trump and Pence are a danger to all of us.

Trump, specifically, is ignoring reality and doing nothing substantial, only lying, attacking, calling names, deriding those that are in charge, and anyone who dares to point out the dire situation we're in.

We should be on a war footing against this disease. Not hearing from the President that some malaria medicine will cure this (a complete lie), or attacking reporters who are asking soft-ball questions that go to the heart of what we're feeling.

Instead, it's the opposite. They are making us and particularly those on the front line vulnerable. They are putting all of us in danger. No, no past tense. They put all of us in danger and are continuing to do so.

There is no "let's move on and forget the mistakes of the past" when every single day they repeat the lies, look for others to blame, deflect, refuse to lead, refuse to get the PPE we need to those on the front line, and so much more.

They've made themselves a joke. They are people that can't be trusted, can't be believed, and can't be relied on.

#12 | Posted by YAV at 2020-03-21 10:44 AM | Reply

Seems like the response of a guilty conscience.

#13 | Posted by jpw at 2020-03-21 10:54 AM | Reply

Donald Trump attends these events expecting adulation. When it's not there the mask slips.

#14 | Posted by Zed at 2020-03-21 10:58 AM | Reply

refuse to get the PPE we need to those on the front line

#12 | Posted by YAV at

Someone in the Trump family MUST be expecting to make a fortune because of this.

#15 | Posted by Zed at 2020-03-21 10:59 AM | Reply

Trump's emotional IQ is very low. So much so as to put him in an emotionally stunted category.

#16 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-03-21 11:18 AM | Reply

Me to Trump: "I say, you're a terrible human being."

#17 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-03-21 11:19 AM | Reply

"Wartime president" by a baboon's rose-red butt. Who in their right mind would share a foxhole with such a coward?

#18 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2020-03-21 11:49 AM | Reply

Does anyone slightly doubt that President Zero is setting up canceling the election?

#19 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-03-21 12:00 PM | Reply

Me to Trump: "I say, you're a terrible human being."

#17 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY

Agreed.

It's tough to say these things when you need to but I think an excellent response would have been something like:

"Then if that is your best response then I would say that you are a terrible President."

#20 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-03-21 12:10 PM | Reply

Time to invoke the 25th amendment.
#10 | Posted by aborted_monson

That time came long ago. But Rs will never let it happen. 90% of them think he's doing a great job.

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#21 | Posted by SomebodyElse at 2020-03-21 12:21 PM | Reply

How convenient this thread left off where the reporter's leading question was,

"Is it possible your impulse to put a positive spin on things may be giving Americans a false sense of hope?"

And then the reporter had the gall to get offended when Trump said he was a bad reporter.

Actually...the reporter is a lying hypocrite for introducing the idea of false hope and then attacking the president.

Basically the reporter is saying...."you didn't shoot down my comment so that makes you guilty of saying it".

The reporter accused Trump of putting a spin on things and Trump accused him of sensationalism.

Sounded like tit for tat.

He was a bad reporter.

#22 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2020-03-21 01:34 PM | Reply | Funny: 4 | Newsworthy 2

I read that trump wants to be thanked for his masterful handling of the pandemic.

If it were up to me, he would instead be imprisoned.

#23 | Posted by contrecoup at 2020-03-21 01:35 PM | Reply

bill- trump is deranged, that you continue to gargle his balls speaks volumes about you.

#24 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2020-03-21 01:36 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

He was a bad reporter.

#22 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

Talking to a very very bad President. A good President would have risen above and the petty partisan politics to reassure and unite us.

Unfortunately, Trumpy being his Trumpy Self cannot do that.

Instead he attacks individuals from his high perch and anyone who dares disagrees with him and confront him on it. If you disagree with Trumpy then you are labeled "nasty".

Sad!

#26 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-03-21 01:43 PM | Reply

"I don't rely on one place for information."

Apparently that is not helping your reading comprehension.

A confrontational fourth estate has always been good for America.

Too bad deplorables can't read and learn from history.

Time for you to grow up. America needs you to behave now.

Resume being deplorable after we put out the fire and we won't even mention it until we flatten the curve.

Maybe the Army Corps of Engineer can get some industrial strength duct tape for Trumpy and we would all be safer.

#27 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-03-21 01:48 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The reporter should have asked the demented schitstain if the number of infected was near zero yet.

#28 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2020-03-21 01:54 PM | Reply

I'm watching the press conf.: trump can't stop ------------, deflecting, preening, taking imaginary credit for imaginary accomplishments.

And people will still vote for him.

We are so screwed.

#29 | Posted by contrecoup at 2020-03-21 02:04 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Donner,

"A confrontational fourth estate has always been good for America."

And then you have some idea people won't be defensive?

The reporter baited Trump and got smacked down for it.

You think emotional intelligence means acting like a machine and never showing emotion?

Trump was visually annoyed, said what he was thinking and got himself back under control.

#30 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2020-03-21 02:06 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

How convenient this thread left off where the reporter's leading question was,
"Is it possible your impulse to put a positive spin on things may be giving Americans a false sense of hope?"
And then the reporter had the gall to get offended when Trump said he was a bad reporter.
Actually...the reporter is a lying hypocrite for introducing the idea of false hope and then attacking the president.
Basically the reporter is saying...."you didn't shoot down my comment so that makes you guilty of saying it".
The reporter accused Trump of putting a spin on things and Trump accused him of sensationalism.
Sounded like --- for tat.
He was a bad reporter.
#22 | Posted by BillJohnson

WOW, so much to parse here.

1. The initial question you point to is actually not really a negative question. It imparts on the president neutral to positive spin (impulse to put a positive spin on things). Yes it is somewhat challenging that that impulse is giving the Americans a false sense of hope. That question is certainly not outside the range of questions a president should be able to answer
2. That question could EASILY be handled tactfully and productively along the lines of Americans need hope, We are doing everything in our power to solve the problem and I am optimistic that our efforts will bear positive results-a no brainer really
3. False hope accurately defines the president saying a cure is available when it is not. Is it strong language? Yes
4. It is the job of the press to challenge authority
5. The challenge that the press offers should guide the president to doing the right thing-leading and consoling a scared population
6. The initial question actually gave the president an opportunity to lead ie show he is on top of things and demonstrating his mastery of the situation. The second question gave the opportunity to give solace to the nation.
7. Someone else on the DR pointed out that the reporter was representing them in the questioning, i.e. don't give me false hope of a cure, give me solace as I am scared.
8. Instead we got a president denying responsibility and insulting the media (in this situation a stand in for the American people) and completely failing at his job.

What this showed me was that the president is scared, really really scared. He viewed a neutral to slightly tough question as a direct attack on him-he has done this several times this week. His response shows his state of mind.

If he weren't such an abominable human being one could almost feel pity for him.

#31 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-03-21 02:07 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Con,

I am only referring to this incident.

Since I don't watch all the press conferences or read every word uttered by anyone, I don't hear all the truth stretching that goes on (and I'm sure there's plenty).

It's only this particular interaction I am referring.

The reporter probably got the response he was hoping for.

#32 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2020-03-21 02:09 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

How convenient this thread left off where the reporter's leading question was ...

Stop making excuses. Every one of the reporter's questions was fair. The question that set him off was a softball.

#33 | Posted by rcade at 2020-03-21 02:14 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

"The reporter baited Trump and got smacked down for it."

The reporter spoke to Trumpy in his own language (trolled him) and Trumpy took the bait hook line and sinker and continued his partisan hate and dived right into the muck to divide and spread more hate. Continually attacking the press Does nothing but feed his base. You.

And here you are as usual defending his hateful lunacy.

You must be one of them Proud Boys!

#34 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-03-21 02:16 PM | Reply

Trump was visually annoyed, said what he was thinking and got himself back under control.

#30 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

Yes we know. Trump lost control again.

Trump needs to shut the hell up and let the adults do what needs to be done.

Whenever Trumpy speaks Trumpy the stock market tanks. Thankfully this is Saturday. Trump spoke a painfully long time today.

#35 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-03-21 02:19 PM | Reply

The reporter explicitly gave trump the opportunity to have a "the only thing we have to fear is fear itself" moment with his country.

He pissed on it, and on us.

Those of you still supporting him should pull your heads out of your situpons toot sweet.

#36 | Posted by contrecoup at 2020-03-21 02:24 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

"You think emotional intelligence means acting like a machine and never showing emotion?"

If Trump is your example of emotional intelligence, that explains everything about you.

#37 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-21 02:27 PM | Reply

Rcade,

You did leave off the opening question the reporter asked when you posted the thread.

That was my point.

Trump's answer wasn't only responding to the reporter asking, "What do you say to Americans who are scared?"

Trump's answer was also responding to the reporters baiting question at the very start suggesting Trump is lying.

Why are you distorting this part of the interaction?

I mean...the reporter started out by implying Trump is just lying to Americans and then acting like he would believe Trump now?

#38 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2020-03-21 02:28 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

BillJohnson,

The important thing about the President's answer... is the President's answer.
The question which made the words come out of his mouth is practically immaterial.

History books aren't going to say the reporter's name.
I bet you don't even know the reporter's name without looking.

#39 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-21 02:38 PM | Reply

Donald J Trump is the President of the United States of America trying to tell a good story.

Peter Alexander is journalist for NBC looking for a good story to tell.

Only one of them is doing their job.

#40 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-03-21 02:39 PM | Reply

Re 39

Sorry about that snoofy.

I gave away the answer before I saw your (very good) post.

#41 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-03-21 02:41 PM | Reply

Trump's answer was also responding to the reporters baiting question at the very start suggesting Trump is lying.

Jesus. Every question Alexander asked was fair. All you've shown is that Trump was asked the kind of questions any competent reporter would ask any president in a crisis like this.

Instead of twisting yourself in a pretzel to "prove" that he wasn't answering the question "What do you say to Americans who are scared?", but was instead answering something else entirely in an act of three dimensional chess mad monkey president-fu, why not admit that the question was a softball and Trump handled it poorly?

#42 | Posted by rcade at 2020-03-21 02:43 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Obama would have had a great moment with that softball question. He would have hit a grand slam game-winner.

Trump on the other hand, struck out at the plate and then attempted to charge the mound to fight the pitcher and proceeded to kick dirt on the umpire's cleats.

#43 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2020-03-21 02:59 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Rcade,

"why not admit that the question was a softball and Trump handled it poorly?"

Why don't you admit the opening question was a rhetorical question intended to be an insult and got the response the reporter deserved?

Then the reporter asked a 2nd question that wasn't exactly a real question either. sort of like, "can you tell me how to be happy?"

The point of the press conference was to discuss what is currently being done so that's the answer to the 2nd question. "how can people feel better" isn't a real question.

Trump's negative response was to the 1st question but being represented in the news as an answer to the 2nd question (if you call that a real question).

Fake news.

#44 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2020-03-21 03:05 PM | Reply | Funny: 2 | Newsworthy 1

"rhetorical question intended to be an insult and got the response the reporter deserved?"

Nobody cares about the reporter, dumbass.

#45 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-21 03:07 PM | Reply

BillJohnson,
It wasn't a private question.
It was a question for Trump to answer to the whole world.

He couldn't do it, much like you can't answer half the questions that come your way, so then you put people on your "Do Not Respond To" list and pout.
You honestly make Trump look emotionally competent. I guess that's why you look up to him. You know he's a better man than you.

#46 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-21 03:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Bill, that 2nd question was a real question, in fact, the most real question that can be asked of the president at this time.

This crisis is starting to hit home with me. I am somewhere between anxious and scared, because someone I care about may have the virus.

The president is our leader in this crisis. His answer SHOULD give me solace.

Instead, it makes me fear for the future

#47 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-03-21 03:19 PM | Reply

Why don't you admit the opening question was a rhetorical question intended to be an insult and got the response the reporter deserved?

That's nonsense. You must think Trump is pathetic. He can't even answer a softball question without your help providing a complicated explanation about what he said.

Pence answered the question fine. You're losing a lot of credibility when you can't even admit Trump handled the question poorly.

Reagan would've answered that question like it was the end of a movie.

#48 | Posted by rcade at 2020-03-21 03:22 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Reagan would've answered that question like it was the end of a movie. #48 | POSTED BY RCADE

Exactly. I feel like anyone with an inkling of public persona media training and self awareness of the severity of the situation would have been waiting for such a softball thrown over the plate. No other president would have fumbled that opportunity as Trump did.

#49 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2020-03-21 03:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Snoofy,

I gave up the "do not respond" list.

#50 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2020-03-21 03:27 PM | Reply

Good for you.
You should give up defending Trump's abysmal swing at a softball too.

#51 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-21 03:28 PM | Reply

"No other president would have fumbled that opportunity as Trump did"

This was what you liked about him four years ago.
What happened?

#52 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-21 03:29 PM | Reply

What happened? #52 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

The last six to twelve months.

#53 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2020-03-21 03:32 PM | Reply

Truth,

Without going in details, it is hitting home with me too.

What do you tell people who are scared?

If they don't know by now they haven't been listening.

STAY HOME, AVOID PEOPLE, DON'T TOUCH YOUR FACE AND WASH YOUR HANDS OFTEN

#54 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2020-03-21 03:33 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"No other president would have fumbled that opportunity as Trump did"

President Bartlet would have hit it out of the park.

#55 | Posted by REDIAL at 2020-03-21 03:35 PM | Reply

"What do you tell people who are scared?"

What a weird thing to ask.
This whole thread, you've been defending telling them Peter Alexander is a terrible reporter.

#56 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-21 03:35 PM | Reply

When you wash your hands with soap and water, sing the ABC song.

That's how long to scrub.

#57 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2020-03-21 03:47 PM | Reply

Bill,

The response I would expect would be along the lines of: "Federal, state and local authorities, in concert with private industry and the heroic healthcare professionals are doing all that they can do to find a cure, to help those who are sick and protect the most vulnerable among us. Your senators and representatives are working with our administration to develop economic policies to provide economic security to all Americans. Americans have seen tough times before and we are a strong nation and even today that strength is shining through from the dedicated scientists seeking a cure, to the doctors and nurses on the front line providing aid to the sick to volunteers providing assistance to the homebound. We will get through this together."

What we got was a image of a President who is scared --------. Which makes me wonder. why is he scared --------? Is it because he is terrified of the impact on himself? Or is it because, he being privy to a lot more information than I am, understands that this situation is far more hopeless than it appears to those without the information he has.

And I don't think that my thinking is radical in the least; as has been pointed out no other president would have responded like he did. Which, again, makes one wonder WHY he reacted that way.

#58 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-03-21 03:50 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Posts like #59 are why I can't flag anyone any longer.

#60 | Posted by YAV at 2020-03-21 03:53 PM | Reply

Truth,

"What we got was a image of a President who is scared --------."

If he's not scared, I'd say he's not the right person for the job.

If Trump is revealing his feelings, well...ok....I like that in people.

It's people who never show feeling and always act like they are perfectly in control who scare me.

#61 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2020-03-21 03:55 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"When you admit you left off an important part of the conversation, I'll say Trump could have been nicer."

BillJohnson,
This is called "bargaining" and it doesn't give you the legitimacy you're hoping for.
In fact, it does the exact opposite.
Goatman used to do this all the time: "I'll give up my guns if you'll give up abortion."
What you're doing is the opposite of having a conversation. You're finding reasons not to have the conversation.

Thanks for reading and understanding.
Stay safe.

#62 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-21 03:57 PM | Reply

Truth,

"Federal, state and local authorities, in concert with private industry and the heroic healthcare professionals are doing all that they can do to find a cure, to help those who are sick and protect the most vulnerable among us. Your senators and representatives are working with our administration to develop economic policies to provide economic security to all Americans. Americans have seen tough times before and we are a strong nation and even today that strength is shining through from the dedicated scientists seeking a cure, to the doctors and nurses on the front line providing aid to the sick to volunteers providing assistance to the homebound. We will get through this together."

Haven't we been hearing something similar to that over and over and over and over and over for weeks now?

Come on...really.

"you're a terrible reporter"...I liked much better. He wasn't reporting news. He wasn't even asking real questions.

Ok...I'm done...I'm beating a dead horse.

#63 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2020-03-21 04:00 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Bill, I am really trying hard to not attack you.

Let me try explaining this in a different way.

The POTUS is the most powerful person in America, and arguably the world.

So, those of us with less power, when faced with a crisis, look to the person with more power to assure us that the crisis is under control

By under control I don't mean solved, I mean that they have the situation in hand and are working towards a solution.

Thus the role of the POTUS as consoler-in-chief.

No matter what questions are thrown at the president, he must demonstrate CONTROL of himself, if nothing else, to demonstrate that he is in control of the situation.

When a president acts out of control, that him being questioned in enough to make him angry, those that look to him for leadership must ask themselves WHY is he not in control?

In other words, there is NO question at all that justifies a president losing his temper at a time like this.

#64 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-03-21 04:00 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 6

Bill, the President doesn't have the luxury of expressing his fear at this time. That is a VERY basic job requirement for the President.

Why? Because people will react to that fear. If the most powerful person in the world is scared and showing it, then what can I do as an average citizen. The message his fear gives is that the situation is hopeless.

I pray you understand what hopelessness will lead to.

#65 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-03-21 04:03 PM | Reply

"Haven't we been hearing something similar to that over and over and over and over and over for weeks now?"

You don't seem to understand how "messaging" works.
How many times did you say the Pledge of Allegiance when you were a schoolboy? Every damn day.
How many ads have you seen for Coke and McDonald's in your lifetime? Too many to count.
How many times have you heard Trump and Trumpers talk about Her Emails?

When you're in church, which you shouldn't be these days but nevermind that, how many times have you heard The Lord's Prayer?
Get it?

#66 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-21 04:04 PM | Reply

Haven't we been hearing something similar to that over and over and over and over and over for weeks now?

Not from the president. All I have seen is denial of the crisis, followed by terror and hopelessness.

#67 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-03-21 04:05 PM | Reply

The only dead horse that you are beating is yourself Bill Johnson.

#68 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2020-03-21 04:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I pray you understand what hopelessness will lead to.
#65 | Posted by truthhurts a

Ugh, after posting that I remembered that republicans are a death and nihilism cult.

#69 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-03-21 04:07 PM | Reply

Truth,

I didn't see fear in Trump's face. I saw anger.

My comment was to you who said you did.

You are correct. He needs to be a strong leader but at the same time he is human.

He spoke confidently and assuredly.

I really don't know what you think you're seeing.

But if you see fear...ok.

(you are I both know he's feeling the same feelings as everyone else)

#71 | Posted by Billjohnson at 2020-03-21 04:24 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"I know Rogers will never admit he left off an important part of the conversation when he started this thread."

You know you're making a demand that will never be satisfied.

Yet you still make it.

You're on a road to nowhere.

That was my point.

#73 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-21 04:27 PM | Reply

You could follow the leadership of the Democrats:

#74 | Posted by visitor_ at 2020-03-21 04:53 PM | Reply

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#75 | Posted by visitor_ at 2020-03-21 04:53 PM | Reply

"Spoken like a true liberal."

WTAF does that mean?

Trump wasn't scared. Trump was furious that some nobody, some fake reporter would have the cojones to question his awesomeness, the God Emperor of Queens, the fat messiah.

Trump is a worthless, ignorant, amoral hairbag.

Hope this helps...

#76 | Posted by contrecoup at 2020-03-21 05:00 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

I think it's time to stop trying to engage Bill in any way, at least as it pertains to Trump. He's hopeless, just like Trump is hopeless.

I stumbled upon a Twitter thread today by a journalism professor who says the time has come for the news media to stop engaging with Trump. He says Trump is beginning to use these daily press briefings as a surrogate for his rallies.

Even today, when 45 started out with more of an action based statement, he still couldn't resist the opportunity to get in a few digs at the media that he hates so much. This is his game, and he's good at it, in a self-serving way. Whatever he says to insult reporters fires up his base. And then the "battle" becomes the news, rather than what really matters. The substance of the questions is irrelevant; it's simply the fact that he takes on the Enemy of the People, the Fake News. He's a malignant narcissist, incapable of shame, and he sees everything as either pro-Trump or anti-Trump.

Trump is never happier than when he is putting somebody down, and when he does so, he's throwing his half-wit supporters red meat. Let's stop serving up the meat.

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#78 | Posted by cbob at 2020-03-21 05:15 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

The more I watch all these news conferences, the more I wish Cuomo was the president.

#79 | Posted by willowby at 2020-03-21 05:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Goatman used to do this all the time: "I'll give up my guns if you'll give up abortion."
POSTED BY SNOOFY "

You're a ---- liar, snoofy. I'm pro-abortion and have said so many times. I have never stated nor implied I am anti-abortion. I've spoken against late term partial-birth abortions where a baby is partially removed from the womb before it is killed, but I have never asked anyone to give up abortion, or for the US to abolish it, or to "trade" it.

#80 | Posted by goatman at 2020-03-21 05:28 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

Not about you, Goatman.

"I'm pro-abortion and have said so many times."

That actually underscores the point I was making.

Aren't you a Vietnam Era Veteran? Remember the Octagonal Table? It's a tragic example of the type of negotiation that goes on when neither side is actually willing to make meaningful concessions. Like you aren't when it comes to gun control.

#81 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-21 05:35 PM | Reply

"I've spoken against late term partial-birth abortions where a baby is partially removed from the womb before it is killed"

Why would you be against that?
You must know nothing about why that procedure is done.
You'll find strong allies in BillJohnson and JeffJ in that proud ignorance.

#82 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-21 05:36 PM | Reply

"#81 | POSTED BY SNOOFY "

I'm not playing your deflection games.

You blatantly lied in post 62. Grow a pair and own it.

#83 | Posted by goatman at 2020-03-21 05:38 PM | Reply

"the more I wish Cuomo was the president."

I thought his dad had a real shot after his Democratic Convention speech in what was it, 1984?

It's funny how the Founding Fathers rejected all claims to noble entitlements, yet we still have political dynasty families. Some parts of human nature can't simply be legislated away.

#84 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-21 05:40 PM | Reply

"You blatantly lied in post 62."

No I didn't.
You must be losing your memory.

#85 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-21 05:40 PM | Reply

Bill, be nice to the sheepish self constructed lepers.

You're hurting their feelings.

They love their leper colony.

Look at the volume of posters on this board.

It's a poll to itself.

#86 | Posted by Yknot at 2020-03-21 05:41 PM | Reply

Oh, wait, was it my memory?

You used to argue you'd give up the Second if we give up the Fourth and Fifth.

Does that sound right, Goatman?

Thanks for setting the record straight!

#87 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-21 05:42 PM | Reply

"As noted, these types of abortions are extremely rare. Although both the rate and number of abortions have steadily fallen in the U.S., an estimated 1 million procedures are performed each year, according to the Guttmacher Institute.

These procedures remain very safe, considerably more so than pregnancy and birth, in fact. Of these abortions, 91.4% are performed in the first trimester, less than 14 weeks into pregnancy. Just 1.3% of abortions are performed at or after 21 weeks, and an estimated 0.2% of all abortions involve the dilation and evacuation procedure. And why would women seek them in the first place?"

www.forbes.com

#88 | Posted by Corky at 2020-03-21 05:42 PM | Reply

I blatantly misremembered in post #62.
Mea culpa.

#89 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-21 05:43 PM | Reply

#69 Accepted.

"You used to argue you'd give up the Second if we give up the Fourth and Fifth."

Fourth. And yes, I did say that in the context that just as giving up the 2nd amendment would save lives, so would giving up the 4th.

#90 | Posted by goatman at 2020-03-21 05:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The point is you have zero intentions of ever giving up the 2nd.

So you're not making a real offer.

You're stonewalling by making an offer you know neither party will accept.

Which is what BillJohnson is doing with his "I'll accept X if you accept Y" shtick.

#91 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-21 05:48 PM | Reply

You know....your comment sounds vaguely threatening just like any other...ummm...leader.....would say if you question their authority.
Seriously...I've never tried to be anything other than myself.

POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON AT 2020-03-21 05:15 PM | REPLY

WARNING WARNING WARNING You're writing checks your body can't cash.

#92 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2020-03-21 05:50 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Which is what BillJohnson is doing with his "I'll accept X if you accept Y" shtick.

Yeah why would you ever want to compromise in a Democracy .. Dictatorship sure, but Democracy .. crazy talk.

#93 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2020-03-21 05:50 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"Yeah why would you ever want to compromise in a Democracy"

^
If you don't love America you should just leave America.
Sail away now!

#94 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-21 05:52 PM | Reply

"Seriously...I've never tried to be anything other than myself."

Still saying you're gay, and only having sex with a woman, BillJohnson?

I mean, I do give you credit for literally decades of consistently!

#95 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-21 05:54 PM | Reply

What a narcissistic -----.

#96 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2020-03-21 06:26 PM | Reply

I mean...the reporter started out by implying Trump is just lying to Americans and then acting like he would believe Trump now?

#38 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

Bull.

"What do you say to the Americans who are scared? Nearly 200 dead, 14,000 who are sick. Millions, as you witnessed, who are scared right now. What do you say to Americans who are watching you right now who are scared?" asked NBC News White House correspondent Peter Alexander.
Where is any implication in this extended question that Trump is lying?

My belief is that Trump heard these three sentences as Alexander blaming him for the dead and sick. That's the only plausible reason he answered that way. His mind was on HIMSELF, not the unambiguous meaning of those sentences, nor Alexander's attempt to give Trump the opportunity to be presidential in a time of crisis. Instead Trump made it about him and his feelings.

Trump is a narcissistic sociopath and anyone who's sober that doesn't see that may need counseling themselves.

#97 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-03-21 06:32 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

"You must think Trump is pathetic."

Trump is pathetic. But it's also disingenuous to say he was responding specifically to the last question, which he probably didn't even listen to because he was still seeing red from the one before it. You're practically handing his supporters an excuse to deflect by ignoring this.

#98 | Posted by sentinel at 2020-03-21 06:42 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

A leader's words stand by themselves.

Trying to contextualize them is the deflection.

Now go paint a Swastika on something for good luck, would ya?

#99 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-21 06:45 PM | Reply

Here's an article which more accurate describes the exchange:

metro.co.uk

But go on, accuse me of making excuses for him, even though I fully supported his impeachment and would like to see him removed from office ASAP.

#100 | Posted by sentinel at 2020-03-21 06:48 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Looking back at what Trump said, I do think that he was replying to the earlier question about whether he was giving Americans false hope. He wasn't trying to answer Alexander's last question.

But again, this is all on Trump. He wasn't fast enough on his feet to answer it when it was asked, he needed time to think of a response and probably didn't even hear Alexander's last question, he lashed out at the previous one.

But again, it goes right back to what I said before, Trump made this about HIM and his feelings and he never thought for a moment about the fact most people reading the account or casually viewing it would not draw this distinction.

And the fact that it happened during the greatest uncontrollable crisis of our lifetimes only cements the fact that Trump's sole interest is in the welfare of himself, not the welfare of the people in this nation.

#101 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-03-21 07:06 PM | Reply

"Here's an article which more accurate describes the exchange"

You really think the words of some fake news MSM reporter and the words of the President of the United States are equally important to history?
Give it a rest.

#102 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-21 07:19 PM | Reply

"Looking back at what Trump said, I do think that he was replying to the earlier question about whether he was giving Americans false hope. He wasn't trying to answer Alexander's last question."

Yeah, and in 8th grade, I accidentally skipped a question on the test and bubbled in all my answers a row above where they were supposed to be on the Scantron form.

Do you think the teacher gave me a pass on that, or did I have to live my my mistake, Sentinel?

#103 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-21 07:22 PM | Reply

#92 | Posted by LauraMohr

Richard Thompson fan?

#104 | Posted by Angrydad at 2020-03-21 08:23 PM | Reply

TRump and his entire cabinet of grifters, fools, religious nut cases and liars must resign for the good of mankind. Let them steal what they can carry out but just be gone.

#105 | Posted by tknees at 2020-03-21 09:05 PM | Reply

(you are I both know he's feeling the same feelings as everyone else)

#71 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON AT 2020-03-21 04:24 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

You're also a psychopath idiot? I learn something every day.

#106 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2020-03-22 12:20 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

If they don't know by now they haven't been listening.
STAY HOME, AVOID PEOPLE, DON'T TOUCH YOUR FACE AND WASH YOUR HANDS OFTEN

#54 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

People aren't looking for a repeat of the CDC's guidelines.

That's not what a real leader would have answered with anyway.

No wonder you can't understand people's lack of faith in Trump, you don't even know what qualities make for a good leader.

#107 | Posted by jpw at 2020-03-22 12:48 AM | Reply

You could follow the leadership of the Democrats:

#74 | POSTED BY VISITOR_

You guys are so thin on excuses you're trotting out this ridiculous nonsense.

---- man. Just admit Trump isn't the man for the job. You'll survive, I promise.

#108 | Posted by jpw at 2020-03-22 12:52 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Obama would give a prime time speech in which he would be crying when he leveled with us that a half million Americans are likely to die from coronavirus and the pandemic is epxected to last 18 months with multiple waves of illness.

And then Republicans would accuse him of showboating and exaggerating the threat and complaining he didn't call it the Chinese virus and that his suit didn't look very Presidential.

#109 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-22 01:01 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The ad I see on this page is Trump giving a Heil Hitler like salute in front of the American flag and it says donate to Trump 2020. I guess they're going to run the same campaign as in 2016.

#110 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2020-03-22 01:38 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Just admit Trump isn't the man for the job. You'll survive, I promise.

#108 | Posted by jpw at 2020-03-22 12:

I'm not sure about this debate whether Trump was angry or frightened snapping at that reporter. He was likely both.

I've never seen the word "gaslighting" used so much as now. The current effort is to gaslight the nation into accepting Trump has done a good job with COVID-19 despite the fact that we've had a front-row seat to his lies and failures since the start.

I checked out the local HEB last night. There are long, long rows of shelves empty. I live in a Red town in a Red state. Gaslighting isn't going to work any more, not even here.

#111 | Posted by Zed at 2020-03-22 09:13 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

you are I both know he's (Trump) feeling the same feelings as everyone else

#71 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON AT 2020

No, he's not.

#112 | Posted by Zed at 2020-03-22 09:14 AM | Reply

you are I both know he's (Trump) feeling the same feelings as everyone else

#71 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

You and I both know Humpy Trumpy is not well.

Trumpy is not normal. No matter how much you want to think that is so. It is not.

Egotistical narcissistic and very dumb are not very good combos.

#113 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-03-22 11:43 AM | Reply

Since it's happening...

www.youtube.com

#114 | Posted by madbomber at 2020-03-22 02:33 PM | Reply

The epitome of madness will be re-electing this douche bag in November.

#115 | Posted by BingyBunny at 2020-03-22 03:13 PM | Reply

I've never seen the word "gaslighting" used so much as now.

To be fair, the term is grossly overused, especially on twitter. Pretty much any time someone lies you can find it being referred to as "gaslighting." For some reason this drives me mad.

#116 | Posted by JOE at 2020-03-22 03:15 PM | Reply

For some reason this drives me mad.

#116 | POSTED BY JOE

Then it's working!!

Moo ha ha!

#117 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-03-22 03:26 PM | Reply

Playing the blame game is not helpful now; it only plays into conspiracy theories about how this was intentional. There's plenty of time to sort things out after the emergency part is past.

#45 | POSTED BY CORKY AT 2020-03-22 05:08 PM

#118 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2020-03-22 06:20 PM | Reply

Wow - you're posting that on multiple threads now? Like your out of context post of another poster's words apply?

You've lost it.

#119 | Posted by YAV at 2020-03-22 07:49 PM | Reply

Once you go full dotard you never go back.

#120 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2020-03-22 07:53 PM | Reply

Wow - you're posting that on multiple threads now? Like your out of context post of another poster's words apply?

You've lost it.

#119 | POSTED BY YAV

Look for the origin of his multiple c/p's. I think you'll get a chuckle when you get what he's actually doing.

#121 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-03-22 08:52 PM | Reply

Look for the origin of his multiple c/p's. I think you'll get a chuckle when you get what he's actually doing.

I did and I posted the link on one of the threads:

"Context matters. You think that was clever or meaningful, RoC? You think that that post has any meaning here? Here's the context:
drudge.com"

You can figure out how much of a chuckle I got out of it.

#122 | Posted by YAV at 2020-03-22 10:55 PM | Reply

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