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Saturday, March 21, 2020

[Trump] said Wednesday that he was invoking the Defense Production Act to help fight "our war against the Chinese virus." His choice of words was not a faux pas. Trump has been using the provocative term regularly even though he's been criticized for it (and maybe even because he has been), suggesting that China is the villain behind America's predicament rather than a victim of the same outbreak.

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Ironically, the Defense Protection Act is necessary in part because of Trump's imprudent fixation on China. His trade war placed tariffs on a vast array of Chinese-made products, including things we really need right now, such as medical equipment and protective gear for health care providers. As a result, China shifted its focus to other countries, and its sales to the U.S. slumped.

But instead of engaging in introspection about how his policies might have played a role in the shortage, not to mention in the United States' delayed response to the outbreak, the president as usual tried to shift blame elsewhere. When asked by a reporter why he continued to refer to the coronavirus in terms that offended Chinese officials, Trump responded petulantly, "Because it comes from China. That's why," adding that Chinese officials shouldn't have said that the outbreak was caused by an American soldier.

No, they shouldn't have; there's absolutely no evidence to suggest that. Nevertheless, it's rich to hear Trump complain about the conspiracy theory, given that he routinely trades in disinformation, legitimizing crackpot ideas while raising suspicions about objective facts.

The war of words between the two countries comes at a time when, like it or not, the U.S. needs China more than ever. Not just for producing so many products on which we depend, but for the knowledge gained by virtue of suffering through the first outbreak. We need all the data and all the help we can get right now about what worked and what didn't to prepare for the expected onslaught of COVID-19 cases in the U.S.

#1 | Posted by tonytripoli at 2020-03-21 07:55 AM | Reply

Someone needs to remind that woman that the medication that keeps her personality at a manageable state thereby making her barely tolerable to be around... in probably made in China.

#2 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2020-03-21 10:37 AM | Reply

I agree that China bashing is a futile effort.

Besides, it distracts from Trump bashing. To many here, one is more fun than the other.

#3 | Posted by eberly at 2020-03-21 10:44 AM | Reply

Besides, it distracts from Trump bashing. To many here, one is more fun than the other.

#3 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Not when it devolves to harassment of innocent people.

This has been going on for some time. People I work with (I'm in academia so plenty of asians...) have stories of people coming up to them and saying stupid stuff like "how'd you get into the country?" when they were born here and have lived here their entire lives.

#4 | Posted by jpw at 2020-03-21 10:59 AM | Reply

Trump bashing.

#3 | Posted by eberly at 2020-03-

I'd hoped we'd passed that stage and are now on Trump satanization.

#5 | Posted by Zed at 2020-03-21 11:07 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

5

well, you have.

#6 | Posted by eberly at 2020-03-21 11:07 AM | Reply

#7 | POSTED BY JEFFJ AT 2020-03-21 11:08 AM | FLAG: EYE ROLL

Ya see here's the thing... you have no way of knowing the veracity that. It's nothing more than accusations and rumors that started when the "trade war" conversations were going on.

FACT is republic0wn and other numbskulls like you were more interested in inserting tariffs and having the cost of those tariffs paid for by you the consumer. Your team didn't want to talk about the virus. Your team downplayed it. ergo GFY

There must be half a dozen videos demonstrating what I am saying is true. Youtube it... months of talking to China the virus wasn't seen as incidental to the conversation the world has watched with incredulity Trumplethinskiners deflect and deny the importance of it for months.

#8 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2020-03-21 11:35 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Good thing righties have come up with a way to distract from President Zero's incompetence.

Facts

China did bad things

China is not the USA

We have little to no power over what China does or doesn't do or did or didn't do

Nothing China did or didn't do or does or doesn't do impacts what we can do to protect ourselves

What President Zero does or doesn't do can and will impact our ability to protect ourselves

We, theoretically, have power over what President Zero does

#9 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-03-21 11:45 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Am I imagining it or is the bearded redneck in the passenger seat grinning at his mom/sister/wife's racist jokes?

#10 | Posted by tonytripoli at 2020-03-21 11:46 AM | Reply

Has anyone noticed when Gunga Dimwit and Piss Boy started talking about China's actions?

It was just after President Zero recognized the gravity of the situation and changed from "No Big Deal" to "Big Deal" meaning he needed to, and started to, excuse his past behavior.

#11 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-03-21 11:48 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 6

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#7 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

Perhaps. China is already seeking redemption by trying to help others.

And Trumpy will also have his own day of reckoning soon because of his lies and negligence.

In November.

Blaming Trumpy's lies and negligence on someone else is so typical of this clown pose and his hateful crew.

#12 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-03-21 11:48 AM | Reply

you have no way of knowing the veracity that.

Um, yeah we do. It's been widely reported and what we still don't know is probably worse than what is known.

Blaming Trumpy's lies and negligence on someone else is so typical of this clown pose and his hateful crew.
#12 | POSTED BY DONNERBOY

Nobody is doing that, numbnuts.

#13 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-03-21 11:51 AM | Reply

"It was just after the CCP tried to deflect blame by alleging that the origin of the virus was our military. "

Actually it was just after the CDC said to NOT call it the China Virus.

Trumpy saw his opening to insult and disparage and immediately tried to defect from his own ignorance to China's mistakes.

Blaming Trumpy's lies and negligence on someone else is so typical of this clown pose and his hateful crew.
#12 | POSTED BY DONNERBOY

Nobody is doing that, numbnuts.

#13 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

You are not engaging in China basing? You could have fooled me. I have seen you on several threads trying to gin up some Trumpy China hate.

Blaming and deflecting to China for Trumpy's negligence is exactly what you are doing. Perhaps you need to become a little more self aware of what it is you are doing when you are not looking.

#14 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-03-21 12:05 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Blaming and deflecting to China for Trumpy's negligence is exactly what you are doing.

No I'm not, moron.

#15 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-03-21 12:11 PM | Reply

Here's a tip - The CCP deserves everything it gets and then some.

THEY are the reason this is a global pandemic.

#16 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-03-21 12:12 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I'd hoped we'd passed that stage and are now on Trump satanization.

#5 | Posted by Zed at 2020-03-21 11:07 AM | Reply

well, you have.

#6 | Posted by eberly at 2020-03-2

It's the Trump virus after the first 1,000 American deaths.

Trump achieves the status of evil incarnate at the first 10,000.

#17 | Posted by Zed at 2020-03-21 12:14 PM | Reply

THEY are the reason this is a global pandemic.
#16 | Posted by JeffJ

Everyone agrees with that, the virus did originate in China after all.

So now you can stop carrying President Zero's water and post something productive.

#18 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-03-21 12:16 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

China tried to hide a local outbreak for 2 months, while trying to control it and responding drastically once it got out of control.

The GOP tried to deny a pandemic for 2 months, while trying to profit off it instead of preparing and alerting Americans.

The GOP are terrorists.

#19 | Posted by bored at 2020-03-21 12:21 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#20 | Posted by JeffJ at 202

It's been explained to you.

#21 | Posted by Zed at 2020-03-21 12:29 PM | Reply

#20 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-03-21 12:27

Are the scientists calling it that? Or just Trump?

#22 | Posted by Zed at 2020-03-21 12:30 PM | Reply

I think COVID-19 should be named after whatever country experiences the most deaths, and unfortunately that may be here.

#23 | Posted by Zed at 2020-03-21 12:31 PM | Reply

Are the scientists calling it that? Or just Trump?

#22 | POSTED BY ZED

Just Trump and his racist and ignorant deplorables.

I wonder why that is. (No actually I don't).

#24 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-03-21 12:36 PM | Reply

#25 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

Still unsure of what irony means...

At the very least stop acting as if you're not parroting Trump's propaganda.

#26 | Posted by jpw at 2020-03-21 12:56 PM | Reply

#25. Not once in that video did any news station use the term wuhan virus, china virus, wuhan coronavirus, etc. except Trump and Fox news.

#28 | Posted by Petrous at 2020-03-21 01:03 PM | Reply

Trump bashing puts everyone at risk.

#29 | Posted by Petrous at 2020-03-21 01:04 PM | Reply

Sorry Jeff, my 'snark' didnt post at the end of my comment

#31 | Posted by Petrous at 2020-03-21 01:11 PM | Reply

#25 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

I ha love seen the coverage.

You sound desperate deplorable.

What you are doing is projecting. I am not spreading propaganda or misinformation.

I am not trying to shift the blame to China. That is you spreading right wing misinformation. China has a responsibility and China is apparently already trying to make it right with the world.

Nut right now is the time for Trumpy to make it right with the world.

#32 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-03-21 01:15 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

China bashing is a deflection from the US failed response to Corona.

US leadership needs to focus on the problems and fix them, not desperately look for someone to blame their failings on.

#33 | Posted by bored at 2020-03-21 01:17 PM | Reply

China's fault
Trump's fault
Somebody's fault
Not my fault.

#34 | Posted by Petrous at 2020-03-21 01:21 PM | Reply

" China bashing is a deflection from the US failed response to Corona."

it's covering up the big lie, which is that trump fumbled in the early days but is on track now.

he is not. he is still peddling deep state conspiracies, attacking the press, and lying constantly.

#35 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2020-03-21 01:32 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

desperately look for someone to blame their failings on.

#33 | POSTED BY BORED

It should never have been mentioned.

But Trump and, by the transitive property, his deplorables cannot help themselves.

#36 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-03-21 01:34 PM | Reply

Gunga Dimwit is suffering from OCD-Obsessive China Disorder

#37 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-03-21 01:48 PM | Reply

Calling it "Chinese virus/Wuhan virus" isn't allowed here because it's racist. Don't say it. Don't start discussions in threads defending why it's OK to say it.

#38 | Posted by rcade at 2020-03-21 02:20 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I guess Dos Equis virus wasn't cutesy enough for JeffJ any more?

This is no time for JeffJ to not be on-message with Trump!

#39 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-21 02:24 PM | Reply

The truth about China is bad enough. The have about one million Uighur Muslims in concentration camps, hundreds of thousands of prisoners of conscience, if you happened to forget about the clamp down on Falun Gong and the home Church movement. The Chinese use these prisoners as a organ bank. They have murdered more of their own citizens than any in other in history, likely 100 million if the deliberate famine orchestrated by Mao is included.
As far as this new virus goes. Don't imply something sinister when simple incompetence is more likely. The Chinese are bad about eating and keeping wild animals in open markets. The workers at that lab entered the enclosures of the animals, including fruit bats, wore no protective clothing. Add the population density of a major Chinese city, and it is surprising that doesn't happen more often.
The truth is China is an aggressive, very dangerous tyranny and they have us by the throat. They not so subtly reminded us they produce practically all our drugs or basic components and are ready to use this monopoly as a weapon.
We really should look as other source of medications, such as domestic production. Maybe even not buy goods from China. Walmart would have a conniption.

#40 | Posted by docnjo at 2020-03-21 06:52 PM | Reply

#38

It's not racist, but whatever. Your house, your rules.

#41 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-03-21 08:24 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

, which is that trump fumbled in the early days but is on track now.

Fumbled?

Federal, State, City local governments were notified of a Public Health Emergency Jan 31st.

Secretary Azar Declares Public Health Emergency for United States for 2019 Novel Coronavirus

"While this virus poses a serious public health threat, the risk to the American public remains low at this time, and we are working to keep this risk low," Secretary Azar said. "We are committed to protecting the health and safety of all Americans, and this public health emergency declaration is the latest in the series of steps the Trump Administration has taken to protect our country."
www.hhs.gov

What were we doing in Jan/Feb?
Worried about witnesses?
Calling Trumps xenophobic?

Was this ever in the MSM? Ever put out there for public consumption? To heed warning, to prepare?

This whole charade that nothing was done, is preposterous, governments around the country knew of the impending risk from this point forward.

They spent their time working through red tape, regulations.

#42 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2020-03-21 08:36 PM | Reply

Trump said it was under control and would go away in April.

Testing was fumbled.

Trump messaging countered the need to socially isolate until early March.

The US is last in covid response.
Last.

#43 | Posted by bored at 2020-03-21 10:29 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

What were we doing in Jan/Feb?
Worried about witnesses?
#42 | POSTED BY ANDREAMACKRIS

Why aren't all states on stay-at-home orders right now?
Not worried about Coronavirus?

#44 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-21 10:39 PM | Reply

Why aren't all states on stay-at-home orders right now?

Why should they be? All of China didn't go under "stay-at-home" orders? Wuhan did because that is where the outbreak virus was.

Not worried about Coronavirus?

Not worried about impeachment any longer? Why?

The US is last in covid response.

Perhaps because we stopped China travel early. God Bless Trump!

But Canada kept right on allowing it.

Feb 15th or so China banned exporting of surgical N95 Masks that the US government ordered.

The World Needs Masks. China Makes Them " But Has Been Hoarding Them.
www.nytimes.com

#45 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2020-03-21 10:50 PM | Reply

"Testing was fumbled."

A woman who was on the verge of death from coronavirus
Was given an experimental drug to treat coronavirus
before she even tested positive for coronavirus

because she did not have any contact with China, the CDC would not test her at first. www.sciencemag.org

But she tested positive.
So where did the Coronavirus come from?

This was on Feb 26.
At that point the CDC knew.
THEY KNEW.

#46 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-21 10:54 PM | Reply

"Feb 15th or so China banned exporting of surgical N95 Masks that the US government ordered."

These things happen in trade wars.
That's why you shouldn't go around starting them.

#47 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-21 10:55 PM | Reply

Hospitals?

Hospital beds?

Ventilators?

Doctors?

State controlled .. Feds really can't help except with cash....

America Doesn't Have Enough Hospital Beds To Fight the Coronavirus. Protectionist Health Care Regulations Are One Reason Why.
The most acute of those problems: America simply doesn't have enough hospital beds to handle the expected influx of patients suffering from COVID-19. In many places, that shortage of beds is the result of state-level regulations"known as "certificate of need" laws, or CON laws"that artificially limit the supply of medical equipment. Those laws help politically powerful hospital chains limit regional competition and inflate health care costs, but they also create shortages of medical equipment that could prove disastrous during a pandemic.
reason.com

If your State, County, City isn't prepared VOTE THEM OUT.

#48 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2020-03-21 10:57 PM | Reply

These things happen in trade wars.

This would have happened without the "trade war", you really are clueless aren't you?

#49 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2020-03-21 10:59 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

So why not buy American, if that would have happened without a trade war, or is Trump really that clueless?

#50 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-21 11:03 PM | Reply

Between Feb 15 and today, on which day(s) did Trump address the N95 mask shortage that Trump knew was coming?

#51 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-21 11:05 PM | Reply

Why aren't all states on stay-at-home orders right now?
Why should they be? All of China didn't go under "stay-at-home" orders? Wuhan did because that is where the outbreak virus was.

It's in every state and we lack the testing capabilities to get a good idea of just how widespread it is.

That's why.

The US is last in covid response.
Perhaps because we stopped China travel early. God Bless Trump!

Except it didn't do a damn thing except placate gullible morons like you.

If your State, County, City isn't prepared VOTE THEM OUT.

#48 | POSTED BY ANDREAMACKRIS

Same goes for Trump!

#52 | Posted by jpw at 2020-03-22 12:12 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Is there some reason eberly and the rest can't hold Trump accountable for anything? I'm beginning to think these guys are the kind who attended the Charlottesville rally but don't want to directly admit it, so they vehemently defend Trump, hoping their reputations will be helped in the process.

#53 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2020-03-22 01:03 AM | Reply

#53 | Posted by BruceBanner I have never seen an individual wearing a hood or a swastika at a Trump rally, but I have seen the protesters outside waving the hammer and sickle. Criticize those whom you disagree with, but don't build a straw man. Distrust of politicians is as American as apple pie. I don't trust the Damn Yankee. I trust Ol'Footinmouth less.

#54 | Posted by docnjo at 2020-03-22 06:17 AM | Reply

I don't trust the Damn Yankee. I trust Ol'Footinmouth less.

#54 | POSTED BY DOCNJO

Then you're an intellectually lazy moron.

#55 | Posted by jpw at 2020-03-22 10:50 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

#52

Are you seriously suggesting the January 31 China travel restrictions had zero impact?

#56 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-03-22 11:33 AM | Reply

Are you seriously suggesting the January 31 China travel restrictions had zero impact?

#56 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

Not zero.

But a worthless empty gesture.

Too little too late. The virus had already escaped.

Damn you are dumb. Maybe you should watch contagion or outbreak or any other virus movie again.

Once the virus is out closing the borders only made things worse. Especially since everyone had plenty of time to leave if they could. And if they could. They did.

Because the Chinese could escape thru Italy and other countries they did. The only way that would have helped is if ALL countries closed their borders at the same time.

Trumps lack of leadership abilities did not allow for that. Unfortunately.

#57 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-03-22 11:50 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Keep exploring parallel universes, JEFF. You're bound to find one where Trump has done a good job.

#58 | Posted by Zed at 2020-03-22 11:53 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Are you seriously suggesting the January 31 China travel restrictions had zero impact?

#56 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

By itself it had minimal impact for two reasons:

1. Travelers were still coming in through Europe

2. Introduction of new cases would have only sped up the kinetics of the spread

Inhibiting travel from Chy-Nuh while doing nothing else was incompetence.

#59 | Posted by jpw at 2020-03-22 11:56 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

#59. So major restrictions of travel from the country of origin had minimal impact?

Is that just your well informed opinion or are you at least partially drawing that conclusion based on info you've received from sources you trust?

#60 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-03-22 12:35 PM | Reply

If that came across as snide it wasn't my intent. I give you a lot of deference on this subject.

#61 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-03-22 12:36 PM | Reply

"So major restrictions of travel from the country of origin had minimal impact?"

As does closing the barn door after all the cows are gone.

You can argue about it until the cows come home but there is no way you can prove it helped at all. Much less measure it.

It would only be speculation.

I speculate that if we had immediately implemented testing at the borders instead of closing them we would have done much better.

You cannot stop a virus like covid19 if you don't know where it is.

I also speculate that we were actually lucky this time.

It could have been much worse. Odds are it will be someday.

#62 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-03-22 01:04 PM | Reply

You can argue about it until the cows come home but there is no way you can prove it helped at all. Much less measure it.

It actually would be pretty easy to extrapolate.

Over the 2 months prior to the restrictions, how many people flew in from China. Compare that with how many flew in after the restriction. I don't have access to that date but to say that it can't be measured is flat-wrong.

#63 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-03-22 01:32 PM | Reply

Is that just your well informed opinion or are you at least partially drawing that conclusion based on info you've received from sources you trust?

#60 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

Informed opinion.

Shutting the door after it's already in the house while doing nothing to deal with what got in makes the door closing minimally important.

It bought time, time that was squandered.

#64 | Posted by jpw at 2020-03-22 01:42 PM | Reply

Playing the blame game is not helpful now; it only plays into conspiracy theories about how this was intentional. There's plenty of time to sort things out after the emergency part is past.

#45 | POSTED BY CORKY AT 2020-03-22 05:08 PM

#65 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2020-03-22 06:20 PM | Reply

^I'm the village idiot....duh derp duuuuuhhhh

#66 | Posted by jpw at 2020-03-23 12:29 AM | Reply

THe comfy times of memeing from afar about the wu-flu, aka the communist chinese wuhan corona virus, or coronachan, are of the past.
Godspeed to all those Chinese coofers sealed into their apartments by their government; I hope they made it out in good health. Who here believes the wu-flu suddenly ended in choynur?

#67 | Posted by berserkone at 2020-03-23 01:32 AM | Reply

Jeff...please stop thinking, it's just not working for you. You are merely devolving Nulli style.

#68 | Posted by bocaink at 2020-03-23 07:28 AM | Reply

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