Drudge Retort: The Other Side of the News
Sunday, March 22, 2020

As coronavirus continues to spread through the U.S., resulting in the deaths of at least 33 people and threatening to topple many aspects of Americans' daily lives, right-wing media is going against the advice of public health experts by trying to rebrand COVID-19 as the "Wuhan" or "Chinese" virus.

Advertisement

More

Comments

Admin's note: Participants in this discussion must follow the site's moderation policy. Profanity will be filtered. Abusive conduct is not allowed.

^official name is SARS-CoV-2.

Anything else is bullschit games.

Moron.

#2 | Posted by jpw at 2020-03-23 12:49 AM | Reply

"You start out in 1954 by saying, "N-----, n-----, n-----." By 1968 you can't say "n-----" -- that hurts you, backfires. So you say stuff like, uh, Hong Kong Flu."

#3 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-23 12:52 AM | Reply

#4 | POSTED BY GOATMAN

So make the effort.

Not hard.

#5 | Posted by jpw at 2020-03-23 01:10 AM | Reply

You are the inconsistent one, not I. You said a few days ago that SARS-CoV-2 was too difficult to say, so you called it something else.

Yeah. But I make the effort to call it what it's named.

Leaving you for our obsessive last word.

Bullschit idiot.

It's too bad the Encyclopedia Dramatica page for the Drudge Retort is no longer there. You're graph of posts over time was priceless.

#7 | Posted by jpw at 2020-03-23 01:27 AM | Reply

If this virus is Chinese does that mean that swine flu , which was first found in 98 in American pigs, should have been called American flu ?

I could care less what name they use .. it's all a distraction from what's really important now...what the f#$% are we going to do...just blame China or mobilize our military and industry to get through this crazy time.

#8 | Posted by 503jc69 at 2020-03-23 07:21 AM | Reply

Also known as the WuTang Flu

#9 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2020-03-23 08:35 AM | Reply

It's too bad the Encyclopedia Dramatica page for the Drudge Retort is no longer there.

I was able to find it - finally:

encyclopediadramatica.wiki

#10 | Posted by YAV at 2020-03-23 11:34 AM | Reply

"I was able to find it - finally:
encyclopediadramatica.wiki

POSTED BY YAV "

I always thought that was a cool and well done page. Glad you found it.

Who was the original author of it, anyway?

#11 | Posted by goatman at 2020-03-23 11:35 AM | Reply

#13 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020

Scientists (remember them?) no longer use the regional nickname system for viruses. They do something else much different. You know this by now.

Your line of argument on this matter reflects political desperation and the standard Trumpite ploy of finding some bad guy not named Trump.

#14 | Posted by Zed at 2020-03-23 12:45 PM | Reply

Jeff's had this explained to him repeatedly, and he's chosen not to hear it.

#15 | Posted by YAV at 2020-03-23 12:57 PM | Reply

Advertisement

Advertisement

You just won't listen.
You won't acknowledge.
You won't be honest.
And you continue to ascribe motivations to others that aren't true.
As I said on another thread just now - kindly GFY, Jeff.

#17 | Posted by YAV at 2020-03-23 01:09 PM | Reply

#16 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-03-23 01:06 PMFlag: (Choose)FunnyNewsworthyOffensiveAbusive

Stupid.

There are one hundred reasons to hate Trump.

He's no victim but you're something of a pimp.

#18 | Posted by Zed at 2020-03-23 01:17 PM | Reply

#19 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-03-23 01:20 PMFlag: (Choose)FunnyNewsworthyOffensiveAbusive

AFTER Trump used it as an excuse.

#20 | Posted by Zed at 2020-03-23 01:25 PM | Reply

#19 | Posted by JeffJ at

Not any more. Except apparently for you.

#21 | Posted by Zed at 2020-03-23 01:27 PM | Reply

Geographcal origin was already discussed.
On multiple threads.
With you.

Even on this one you brought up JPW's use of Wuhan, and JPW explained it clearly, and I did as well, that was the geography, not "China." I also explained that once it was names novel coronavirus that's when the name changed in use. You desperately keep trying to change that timing to correspond to some unknot propaganda campaign that apparently the entire world Press is all tied into and China's made everyone stop using a name that was NEVER common.

There's only one reason to use "China virus" and you and people like you are the reason. It doesn't accomplish anything except ferment hate and racism, which spills over to our own citizens that appear to be asian. You keep saying this is all China's fault, period. No one else's. We're all victims. Poor us! If only China would - what? Agree with you? What would that change?

People have tediously explained each term - like "German Measles" and "Spanish Flu" and "Chinese Food" to you and why, but this one, despite you constantly testifying to the reason it's so important to you to call in what you do, you won't admit what you're actually doing.

Hell, I even showed you the image of Trump's address with "corona" crossed out and in Trump's sharpie handiwork, the word "Chinese" written above. As accurate as his sharpie outline of the hurricane hitting Alabama.

#22 | Posted by YAV at 2020-03-23 01:31 PM | Reply

How many times do examples need to be provided before this truth is accepted.

When Trump went to the WH podium with prepared remarks that clearly showed that he had crossed out the word corona and replaced it with China in front of the word "virus", there was no doubt his intent was racist.

The Washington Post story headline was describing the origin of the virus by using the word Chinese.

I agree that context matters. Just saying "Chinese virus" or "China virus" necessarily isn't racist in and of itself if there is a need to inform the reader/listener of the virus' origin. It's also perfectly acceptable to say "the coronavirus which emerged from China."

But intent matters, and Trump makes his intent perfectly clear. When standing with a collection of rank professional leaders who all refer to the virus by its technical name COVID-19 or coronavirus, while the President chooses to use an entirely different moniker says all that needs to be said.

The virus is not carrying a Chinese flag in it's RNA, it's a virus and doesn't care what the nationality is of the people it infects.

Too bad Jeff is deaf to the cacophony of illogic he continues to foist unendingly.

#23 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-03-23 01:32 PM | Reply

"Tony, but China and China alone is the reason this thing became a global pandemic due to their actions."

Government has the power to stop a pandemic?

Is that at the Federal level, or the state level, or how does that work, in your mind, JeffJ?

#26 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-23 01:39 PM | Reply

The only difference I can see is orange man bad.

As I said:
You just won't listen.
You won't acknowledge.
You won't be honest.
And you continue to ascribe motivations to others that aren't true.

GFY, Jeff.

#27 | Posted by YAV at 2020-03-23 01:39 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Funny how our Government under Trump can't seem to stop it.
In fact, Trump busy throwing all our health officials under the bus on Twitter.

#28 | Posted by YAV at 2020-03-23 01:40 PM | Reply

"West Nile ALL still commonly used today and none of those are considered racist."

Trump is racist.

#29 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-23 01:40 PM | Reply

#28 That's because by the time our government was aware people were already infected.

#31 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-03-23 01:42 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Oh really, Jeff?

Then why is it called "German Measles?"
We'll just do one for now.

#32 | Posted by YAV at 2020-03-23 01:43 PM | Reply

If it isn't racism, why refer to it as China virus instead of Covid virus?

#33 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-03-23 01:47 PM | Reply

"#28 That's because by the time our government was aware people were already infected."

So?
By the time China's government was aware people were already infected too.

#36 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-23 01:54 PM | Reply

#34 - Except mine applies to multiple conversations with Jeff on one subject, and I am not having any conversations with Mohr, so the applicability is meaningless.

#37 | Posted by YAV at 2020-03-23 01:54 PM | Reply

hmmm
MERS-Middle East Respiratory Syndrome-1st reported in Saudi Arabi, sooooooo NOT at all like Covid

Not only are you racist but you are ignorant as well

#38 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-03-23 01:55 PM | Reply

"How about MERS or West Nile?"

What's racist about "Middle Eastern Respiratory Syndrome?"
What's racist about "West Nile?"

#39 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-23 01:55 PM | Reply

In 1976, Ebola virus (EBOV) was first identified in Yambuku, 111 kilometers (69 mi) from the Ebola River, but Peter Piot decided to name it after the river so that the town would not be associated with the disease's stigma. en.wikipedia.org

Notice anything, JeffJ?

#41 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-23 01:58 PM | Reply

Notice anything, JeffJ?
#41 | Posted by snoofy a

I've noticed something! Gunga Dimwit is a racist!

#43 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-03-23 01:59 PM | Reply

(69 mi) from the Ebola River

Nice.

#44 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2020-03-23 02:01 PM | Reply

From drudge.com

BTW, using a country's name doesn't make something racist. German measles was named for the Scientists (Germans) that discovered it.

If you want to know is something is racist, ask yourself why did someone say that was racist? Then use a dictionary and look up the word.
racist | resst |
adjective
prejudiced against or antagonistic towards a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized: we are investigating complaints about racist abuse.

Now tell me what you honestly think about Trump crossing out "Corona," the actual name of the type of virus, and putting "Chinese" in instead, was all about? Was it to be antagonistic towards the Chinese?

That's why "racist" fits.

#46 | Posted by YAV at 2020-03-23 02:02 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"What do you call that restaurant that specializes in Peking Duck, Hot and sour soup, and Egg rolls?"

That's a Chinese restaurant.
It's serving up food made in the tradition of the Chinese culture.

What do you call that zoonotic virus that can spread to human, bats, and pangolins?

#47 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-23 02:02 PM | Reply

I know Chinese fortune cookies do not come from China. Never have.

#48 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-03-23 02:04 PM | Reply

Nope. Invented by Americans.

Like the Spanish Flu which the U.S. actively exported to the rest of the world from Camp Funston in Fort Riley, Kansas and then actively joined in and blamed Spain for it because they reported it.

www.cdc.gov

#49 | Posted by YAV at 2020-03-23 02:09 PM | Reply

"I know Chinese fortune cookies do not come from China. Never have."

True, but they were first served up in Chinese restaurants, so they got roped into the American undersatnding of what Chinese food is.
It's a bit like when you hear that Shel Silverstein song on St. Patricts Day.

Anyway, you know what ad you don't see any more?
Calgon's "Ancient Chinese Secret!"
www.youtube.com

#51 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-23 02:13 PM | Reply

"it must logically follow that Chinese fortune cookie is racist."

You and JeffJ pick the most ridiculous crosses to hang each other from.
Anyway, don't let me stop you.

#52 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-23 02:14 PM | Reply

Because the stigma of a virus that's projected to kill 1-2 million Americans

is pretty much on par with

The stigma of a cookie.

#53 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-23 02:15 PM | Reply

A cookie that was invented in 1918 should be judged by its name 100 years later.

I can't recall the last time I hear them referred to as "Chinese fortune cookies."
All I hear is "Fortune cookies" now.

I guess there's no point in blaming the Chinese for something we invented that people like.

#55 | Posted by YAV at 2020-03-23 02:19 PM | Reply

#54 - see #46.

#56 | Posted by YAV at 2020-03-23 02:20 PM | Reply

Snoofy, one can always find a "But, but, but this is different" argument.

^
Not hard to do, not a wrong thing to do, when the things being ridiculously paralleled are
a cookie
and
a disease that's projected to kill a million Americans.

#58 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-23 02:25 PM | Reply

tsuechong.com

#60 | Posted by YAV at 2020-03-23 02:46 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

That's because by the time our government was aware people were already infected.

The U.S. had its first case on the same day that South Korea had its first case.

They handled it aggressively and had testing, protection and detection systems ready.

We didn't.

Compare how it's going there vs. how it's going here.

#61 | Posted by rcade at 2020-03-23 03:11 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Wow this thread got sliced and diced by the blog god.

#62 | Posted by jpw at 2020-03-23 03:33 PM | Reply

They handled it aggressively and had testing, protection and detection systems ready.

They prepared after their previous pandemics.

South Koreans, unlike Europeans and Americans, were also primed to treat the coronavirus as a national emergency, after a 2015 outbreak of Middle East respiratory syndrome in the country killed 38.
www.nytimes.com

This is what happens when the MSM treats a president with kid gloves.

Judge Obama by this tragedy, judge Trump by the next.

#64 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2020-03-23 06:36 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

Judge Obama by this tragedy, judge Trump by the next.

#64 | Posted by AndreaMackris

Make the Black man responsible for killing 2.5 Americans?

#65 | Posted by Zed at 2020-03-23 06:50 PM | Reply

Judge Obama by this tragedy, judge Trump by the next.

#64 | Posted by AndreaMackris

Make the Black man responsible for killing 2.5 million Americans?

#66 | Posted by Zed at 2020-03-23 06:59 PM | Reply

Zeka, Ebola, MERS.

#67 | Posted by visitor_ at 2020-03-23 07:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Banana, Roadrunner, CATS.

#68 | Posted by YAV at 2020-03-23 08:25 PM | Reply

Re-brand? Wha was it not a China originated virus? I personally like WuFlu : )

#69 | Posted by MSgt at 2020-03-23 11:07 PM | Reply

What difference does it make at this point in this pandemic where it came from?

It could have just as easily come from mAndrea's cooties.

OK, more easily.

#70 | Posted by Corky at 2020-03-23 11:13 PM | Reply

It could have just as easily come from mAndrea's cooties.

Perhaps, but my guess its from that "--------" country, cuz no one died from my cooties.

#71 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2020-03-23 11:19 PM | Reply

Make the Black man responsible for killing 2.5 Americans?
#65 | POSTED BY ZED

Is that all, what are you worried about....

#72 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2020-03-23 11:20 PM | Reply

"just as easily come from mAndrea's cooties."

Cooties???

How fccking old are you?

#73 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2020-03-23 11:21 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Old enough to communicate to the illiterate in their own terms.

I reply to you, after all.

#74 | Posted by Corky at 2020-03-23 11:34 PM | Reply

ZIKA, MERS, EBOLA. All named after the locations from which they are believed to have originated.

#75 | Posted by visitor_ at 2020-03-24 12:17 AM | Reply

The CDC lists the geographical origins of all sorts of viruses and maladies.

#76 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-03-24 12:52 PM | Reply

China is the name of a country; it's not a geographical feature.

#77 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-24 12:53 PM | Reply

German Measles, Lyme Disease, West Nile Virus, Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever, St. Louis Encephalitis, La Crosse Encephalitis, Lassa Fever, Marburg Virus Disease, Omsk Hemorrhagic Fever, Ross River Fever.

#78 | Posted by visitor_ at 2020-03-24 02:01 PM | Reply

#78 The only country named in your ridiculous flailing about was Germany.
And we don't use the term German Measles any more.
We call it Rubella, as in MMR vaccine -- measles, mumps, rubella.

Keep digging, I'm sure you'll make your way to China eventually!

#79 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-24 02:03 PM | Reply

Or Hong Kong. As in Hong Kong Flu. It's fairly recent that snowflakes at WHO and CDC didn't want to people's feelz by naming disease after regions.

#80 | Posted by visitor_ at 2020-03-24 05:49 PM | Reply

"It's fairly recent that snowflakes at WHO and CDC didn't want to people's feelz by naming disease after regions."

Whereas you do want to hurt people's feelings.
I assure you, we get it.

#81 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-24 05:51 PM | Reply

#74

Perhaps you need to look up what "illiterate" means.

#82 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2020-03-24 06:20 PM | Reply

"Perhaps you need to look up what "illiterate" means.

#82 | POSTED BY RIGHTOCENTER "

It's been many years, so I could be wrong, but right after I joined here someone (and I'm pretty sure it's the same guy) said something about someone decapitating their hand in an accident.

#83 | Posted by goatman at 2020-03-24 06:35 PM | Reply

Comments are closed for this entry.

Home | Breaking News | Comments | User Blogs | Stats | Back Page | RSS Feed | RSS Spec | DMCA Compliance | Privacy | Copyright 2020 World Readable

Drudge Retort