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Tuesday, March 24, 2020

As New York reported more than 5,000 new coronavirus cases and an infection rate that's doubling roughly every three days, Governor Andrew Cuomo lashed out at the Trump administration for relying on corporations to voluntarily make life-saving ventilators.

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...The state now expects it will need as many as 140,000 hospital beds, up from an earlier projection of 110,000. The state has 53,000 hospital beds and 3,000 ICU beds. It will need as many as 40,000 ICU beds, he said.

"These are troubling and astronomical numbers," he said.

Deborah Birx, the State Department physician who advises Vice President Mike Pence on the government's response to the outbreak, said Monday night that the New York area was in deep danger.

"The New York Metro area of New Jersey, New York City and parts of Long Island have an attack rate close to 1 in a thousand," she said. "This is five times what the other areas are seeing. Through the high-throughput lab investigations, we're finding that 28% of the submitted specimens are positive from that area where it's less than 8% in the rest of the country."

Fastest Rate

"Clearly, the virus had been circulating there for a number of weeks to have this level of penetrance into the general community," Birx said....


#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-03-24 12:24 PM | Reply

What's happening there is terrifying.

One of the difficulties of handling this pandemic is the fact that taking an action today doesn't change the numbers for at least 10-14 days.

I think part of why New York numbers are growing is because they're testing aggressively now. Other places that aren't (such as Florida) have a lot more cases they don't even know about yet.

#2 | Posted by rcade at 2020-03-24 12:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

America is too stupid and self interested too survive. If India can lock down 1.3 billion people,what's our problem? No sense of common interest, we are raised from infancy to love only ME,ME,ME,ME. This virus marks the end of America as a "great" power. Mark my words, a steep decline in life expectancy,per capita income, and other social measures of improvement will be seen going forward.

#3 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2020-03-24 12:35 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Donald Trump is the cause of more LOSING for Americans than any other individual in our history,and that's really saying something.

#4 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2020-03-24 12:37 PM | Reply

@#2 ... the fact that taking an action today doesn't change the numbers for at least 10-14 days. ...

The delay can be even longer. I've read some medical articles that said something along the lines of...

Time from infection until symptoms appear, 10 to 14 days.

Those symptoms tend to be minor, or even asymptomatic.

In most people, those minor symptoms tend to go away in another 10 to 14 days. But in a few people, those mild symptoms turn severe at the end of that second 10 to 14 day period.

So it could be nearly three weeks before severe symptoms appear in someone who had been infected.

From the very beginning, the long incubation period concerned me greatly. My concern has not diminished over the ensuing weeks.


#5 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-03-24 12:40 PM | Reply

COVID-19 in NY becomes 'bullet train,' with ominous peak just 2 weeks away
abc7ny.com

...[NY Gov Cuomo] offered a stinging assessment of the federal government's responsiveness to the urgent need for ventilators,

He said he told Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar: "Look at the first word in the title of the agency you run. It is health. Your first priority is health. You have 20,000 ventilators in the stockpile. Release the ventilators to New York. How can we be in a situation where you can have New Yorkers possibly dying because they can't get a ventilator, but a federal agency saying I'm going to leave the ventilators in the stockpile? I mean, have we really come to that point," asked the governor....


#6 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-03-24 02:08 PM | Reply

"I think part of why New York numbers are growing is because they're testing aggressively now. "

Yes, testing sites are going up all around the state.

#7 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-03-24 02:08 PM | Reply

Eric Feigl-Ding @DrEricDing (Epidemiologist, Health Economist)|

New York Gov. @andrewcuomo to federal leaders: "You pick the 26,000 people who are going to die unless you send more ventilators!" Wow. #COVID19

#8 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-03-24 02:23 PM | Reply

Cuomo Becomes Trump's Target as He Demands Ventilators Now
www.bloomberg.com

...As New York reported more than 5,000 new coronavirus cases and an infection rate doubling roughly every three days, Governor Andrew Cuomo lashed out at President Donald Trump for relying on corporations to fast-track the manufacture of life-saving ventilators.

"You can't do this on a voluntary basis," Cuomo said Tuesday during a news conference in at the Jacob K. Javits Convention Center in Manhattan, which is being converted into a temporary hospital. He warned that many victims of Covid-19, the disease caused by the coronavirus, will die needlessly without ventilation.

"You pick the 26,000 people who are going to die," he said.

The president said in a televised town hall that the governor was ungrateful and had failed to prepare his state. "He shouldn't be talking about us," Trump said.

Trump, unable to hold his mass campaign rallies at a time when most Americans are staying home, has turned to daily coronavirus briefings not only to impart information -- much of which contradicts his own experts' advice -- but to air grievances. During a Fox News appearance on Tuesday, the president, who thrives on having an enemy, found one in Cuomo....


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#9 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-03-24 02:39 PM | Reply

If only the virus would show Trump a lack of fealty.

#10 | Posted by bored at 2020-03-24 02:49 PM | Reply

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The president said in a televised town hall that the governor was ungrateful and had failed to prepare his state. "He shouldn't be talking about us," Trump said.

That's going to be the standard line moving forward-blame governors for not preparing their state.

No mention of blaming Trump for not preparing the country.

#11 | Posted by jpw at 2020-03-24 03:38 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Do you mean exponential and not logarithmic growth? N(t) = N(0)e^at

#12 | Posted by visitor_ at 2020-03-24 05:31 PM | Reply

Quid Pro Quo Coronavirus:

Josh Marshall @joshtpm

On Governors asking for help, Trump says, "It's a two way street they have to treat us well too." ....

twitter.com

And he wonders why people hate him. . . .

#13 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-03-24 05:54 PM | Reply

20,000 ventilators sitting in reserve while New Yorkers choke to death is starting to seem like enemy action. Trump did just move out of N.Y. when he realized most there hate him.. now they are the epicenter of a coronavirus outbreak and getting the cold shoulder from D.C.... very suspect.

#14 | Posted by 503jc69 at 2020-03-24 06:34 PM | Reply

"20,000 ventilators sitting in reserve while New Yorkers choke to death is starting to seem like enemy action. Trump did just move out of N.Y. when he realized most there hate him.. now they are the epicenter of a coronavirus outbreak and getting the cold shoulder from D.C.... very suspect.

#14 | POSTED BY 503JC69 "

Explain how it's Trump's fault unutilized ventilators are sitting idle. Is he now supposed to manage all hospitals? Would he have been at fault last year if needed ventilators weren't being used? Wouldn't all you lefties who have been crying for 3.5 years that Trump is always overstepping his power get a little pissed if he micromanaged hospitals?

One day you guys want Trump to curb his powers, then the next you guys want Trump to personally manage hospital equipment.

Consistency and the left. Never the twain shall meet.

#15 | Posted by goatman at 2020-03-24 06:38 PM | Reply

On Governors asking for help, Trump says, "It's a two way street they have to treat us well too."

^
Five Dimensional Chess.

#16 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-24 06:39 PM | Reply

#15 New York says they need 30,000 ventilators and Trump send 400 and leaves 20000 in reserve and they still sit idle... forget about before, why not send them immediately?

#17 | Posted by 503jc69 at 2020-03-24 07:10 PM | Reply

New York is better situated, as bad as it is, for the actions they've taken. Other states aren't going to be as fortunate. This model will let you look at the outcomes for each state based on various scenarios: Lockdown, Shelter in Place, Social Distancing, No action:

https://covidactnow.org
NOTE: This model is intended to help make fast decisions, not predict the future.

Definitions may be found here:
docs.google.com

#18 | Posted by YAV at 2020-03-24 07:47 PM | Reply

It also will give you the "run out of hospital beds" tipping point.

#19 | Posted by YAV at 2020-03-24 07:51 PM | Reply

Explain how it's Trump's fault unutilized ventilators are sitting idle. Is he now supposed to manage all hospitals? Would he have been at fault last year if needed ventilators weren't being used? Wouldn't all you lefties who have been crying for 3.5 years that Trump is always overstepping his power get a little pissed if he micromanaged hospitals?
One day you guys want Trump to curb his powers, then the next you guys want Trump to personally manage hospital equipment.

Good grief, Goat. Why in the world would Gov Cuomo except Trump to release ventilators held in NY state hospitals? He wouldn't. He would, however, expect him to release ventilators held in a national stockpile and controlled by FEMA:

Cuomo wants all of what he called a current federal stockpile of 20,000 ventilators to brace for the coming "apex" in cases, which he says will arrive as soon as 14 days.

Vice President Mike Pence announced that thousands of ventilators will be sent from the national stockpile to New York as the state grapples with the coronavirus pandemic.

www.cnn.com

"Consistency and the left. Never the twain shall meet."

Common sense and the right. Never the twain shall meet?

#20 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-03-24 08:02 PM | Reply

#20 Or how about: Knee-jerk reaction and the right. Always the two shall intertwine.

#21 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-03-24 08:03 PM | Reply

"Cuomo wants all of what he called a current federal stockpile of 20,000 ventilators to brace for the coming "apex" in cases, which he says will arrive as soon as 14 days."

Cuomo is a very eloquent speaker, but there was one point he made which was disingenuous. He implied New York is going to have their apex first, and then another state would have one, and then a third, and so on. The reality is that many states will have overlapping apexes, and FEMA also needs to have reserves in case some other situation happens where they are needed. I get that he was trying to light a fire to sound the alarm about the situation in his state, but I also understand the federal government's reluctance to put all their eggs in one basket.

#22 | Posted by sentinel at 2020-03-25 12:32 AM | Reply

It would be unfair to all the people who won't get ventilators in a few weeks, to give people ventilators now.

#23 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-25 12:34 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#22 - Some states are taking this seriously. Some states aren't doing much about this, other states can't get their Governor to do squat, so individual counties are implementing shelter-in-place orders.

The peaks are going to be all over the place based on what states do what. Mississippi, Alabama, Tennessee, Oklahoma, Missouri, Kansas, Nebraska, S. Dakota, and Idaho have done very little.

States like Florida and Texas - are quite frankly, run by idiots. Texas is on track for 430,000 deaths, and Florida for 320,000 unless they buckle down. Florida's 3 most populated counties are implementing their own 'shelter-in-place' orders in face of their governor that is adamantly opposed to taking such action.

covidactnow.org<>

#24 | Posted by YAV at 2020-03-25 06:42 AM | Reply

Barring a miracle cure arriving today or tomorrow, we are not at the beginning of the end; we are at the beginning of the beginning:

Erin Burnett @ErinBurnett

Mayor of New Orleans told me tonight that OVER HALF of EMS personnel in her city are under quarantine. In NYC, sick callouts of NYPD are 2700-2800. Getting closer to 10% of force. To state the obvious, these numbers matter...

Icarus Stone @KratzerAllen

Replying to @ErinBurnett

my daughter is an infectious disease specialist in a New Orleans hospital and she has been exposed to virus and has to work 16 hour shifts with no extra pay. She is on her 4th day using same mask and gown. It is all I can do to control my anger at our federal government

twitter.com

#25 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-03-25 07:07 AM | Reply

Explain how it's Trump's fault unutilized ventilators are sitting idle. Is he now supposed to manage all hospitals? Would he have been at fault last year if needed ventilators weren't being used? Wouldn't all you lefties who have been crying for 3.5 years that Trump is always overstepping his power get a little pissed if he micromanaged hospitals?
One day you guys want Trump to curb his powers, then the next you guys want Trump to personally manage hospital equipment.
Consistency and the left. Never the twain shall meet.

#15 | POSTED BY GOATMAN

You really don't know?

The Feds have 20,000 ventilators in storage to send out whenever they want.

Trump sent them 400, Pence sent them 4,000. The need 30,000.

#26 | Posted by Sycophant at 2020-03-25 12:27 PM | Reply

Are 20000 ventilators all the Feds have? Cause there are other places that are going to need them too.

#27 | Posted by visitor_ at 2020-03-25 05:45 PM | Reply

It would be unfair to send anyone ventilators, if there's not enough for everyone.
Better to have 20,000 ventilators not get used at all.
That's the fairest thing to do.

#28 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-25 05:46 PM | Reply

Are 20000 ventilators all the Feds have? Cause there are other places that are going to need them too.

Ventilators are portable. The entire supply should be in circulation as they're immediately needed. And as that need inevitably ebbs, they can be sent to wherever they're needed later.

#29 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-03-25 05:54 PM | Reply

It's expected that many areas will see an apex at the same time. By the time NYC doesn't need them anymore, those areas will also have seen their apex pass too. Sorry LA, NYC got all the ventilators.

#30 | Posted by visitor_ at 2020-03-25 06:03 PM | Reply

"Sorry LA, NYC got all the ventilators."

Exactly.
Better if no one gets the ventilators, right Visitor_?

#31 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-25 06:16 PM | Reply

A ventilator breathes for people, right? I wonder whats the difference between a ventilator and a well fitting CPAP machine is, then?

My CPAP machine fits very snugly into my nostrils. The mask type didn't work on me because of my beard. So the sleep disorder doctor gave me the nostril fitting one. I can't fight it or overcome it with my own natural breathing, that's how well fitting it is and how powerful the machine is. It breathes for me at night because of apnea.

#32 | Posted by goatman at 2020-03-25 06:50 PM | Reply

It doesn't breathe for you.

It provides
Constant Positive Airway Pressure

AdventHealth Pulmonologist, Dr. Steven Tomski, said:
CPAP machines are not an effective treatment for COVID-19 patients. They operate using room air that is pressurized, not high-flow oxygen. That is why physicians and scientists are not using them as a COVID-19 treatment. Even hospital-grade CPAPs or Bi-level PAPs, which can have oxygen added into their mix, are not a valid option due to the increased risk of putting secretions into aerosol form. Which means an increased risk for exposure to the virus for people caring for or near the patient.
wlos.com

#33 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-25 07:16 PM | Reply

"It provides
Constant Positive Airway Pressure
#33 | POSTED BY SNOOFY "

That's what a ventilator does as well. It just does it from the trachea and not the mouth or nostrils. I use one to breathe for me when I get apnea. I'm quite aware of what they do.

#34 | Posted by goatman at 2020-03-25 07:24 PM | Reply

The simplest way to understand that CPAP won't work is that they aren't using CPAP.

The next simplest way to understand that CPAP won't work is to read the quote from Dr. Tomski in #33.

#35 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-25 07:42 PM | Reply

"The next simplest way to understand that CPAP won't work is to read the quote from Dr. Tomski in #33.
#35 | POSTED BY SNOOFY "

Actually, the FDA said they can with monitoring. And having used one and knowing it is impossible to stop them from breathing for you, I believe this article.

www.fda.gov

Have you ever used a CPAP, snoofy?

#36 | Posted by goatman at 2020-03-25 07:52 PM | Reply

"I believe this article."

Me too.
CPAP is only indicated in the least extreme, not the most extreme, instances.

#37 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-25 07:55 PM | Reply

"CPAP is only indicated in the least extreme, not the most extreme, instances.
#37 | POSTED BY SNOOFY "

But it works in some cases. So why not use it for those? And why not solve the filtration problem and make it even broader in its use?

#38 | Posted by goatman at 2020-03-25 07:59 PM | Reply

"But it works in some cases. So why not use it for those?"

Good idea, that they already thought of, which is why the link in #36 exists.

#39 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-25 08:00 PM | Reply

Not only CPAP, but iron lung devices.

#40 | Posted by goatman at 2020-03-25 08:04 PM | Reply

I'm sure the Smithsonian's collection of historic iron lung devices will be put to good use.

Iron Lung (not to be confused with Aqualung) en.wikipedia.org
Its use is largely obsolete in modern medicine, as superior breathing therapies have been developed[citation needed], and due to the eradication of polio in the U.S.[1]
...
Joan Headley of Post-Polio Health International said that as of May 28, 2008, there were about 30 patients in the U.S. still using an iron lung.

#41 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-25 08:08 PM | Reply

"I'm sure the Smithsonian's collection of historic iron lung devices will be put to good use.
Iron Lung (not to be confused with Aqualung) en.wikipedia.org
Its use is largely obsolete in modern medicine, as superior breathing therapies have been developed[citation needed], and due to the eradication of polio in the U.S.[1]
...
Joan Headley of Post-Polio Health International said that as of May 28, 2008, there were about 30 patients in the U.S. still using an iron lung.

POSTED BY SNOOFY "

I'm not talking about those. I'm talking about the modern devices that do the same thing but are some sort of breastplate looking thing -- not a metal cylinder.

You really thought I was talking about the things they used to put polio victimms into, and not the modern ones, or was this a troll?

#42 | Posted by goatman at 2020-03-25 08:10 PM | Reply

I thought you were talking about iron lung machines, as described in the Wikipedia page I linked to, titled "Iron Lung," and with no disambiguation page for other non-standard uses of the term.

#43 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-25 08:13 PM | Reply

We're all thinking outside the box on this, Goatman, and I'm glad you are too.
That's probably our best bet to stem the bleeding, as it were.

The other day they said you can actually re-use N95 masks if you bake them in the oven at 175 at 30 minutes, or something like that.

#44 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-25 08:15 PM | Reply

"We're all thinking outside the box on this, Goatman, and I'm glad you are too.
That's probably our best bet to stem the bleeding, as it were.
The other day they said you can actually re-use N95 masks if you bake them in the oven at 175 at 30 minutes, or something like that.

#44 | POSTED BY SNOOFY "

It's certainly far more productive than the blame game or yet another "Trump sucks" thread. As a wise leftie once said, "Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." Mrs. Roosevelt would more surely smile on those solution seekers than the idiots who think puking out the same mindless "Trump sucks" accomplishes anything.

I'll try baking my mask. Good to get that information out. I have a dozen of them, but I won't use a new one until the previous one is in tatters. I'll probably still spray it with Lysol after each use. I should have enough. So far I've used it four times for short trips to the store the last two weeks.

#45 | Posted by goatman at 2020-03-25 08:30 PM | Reply

""Iron Lung," and with no disambiguation page for other non-standard uses of the term.

#43 | POSTED BY SNOOFY "

I guess I used the term generically -- i.e. a device that raises your lungs to create negative pressure in them, thus pulling in air. Kind of like saying "Jello" or "Kleenex" for any gelatine dish or nose tissue even though those are brand names.

#46 | Posted by goatman at 2020-03-25 08:32 PM | Reply

I feel if NASA engineers could, in < 24 hours come up with a CO2 scrubber adapter using a plastic bag, cardboard, duct tape, space suit hose and literally fitting a square peg into a round hole to keep the Apollo 13 astronauts alive, we can make CPAP filtration systems and whatever adaptations are necessary to breathe for people.

As already noted, mine breathes for me. Obviously they provide more than positive pressure or I wouldn't be able to exhale. But exhaling does not take any assistance, just as an inflated balloon doesn't need assistance to let loose its air. The CPAP doesn't suck air out of my lungs, it allows it to escape naturally. The same would happen in a Covid infected lung. It's not like Covid stiffens the lungs -- it makes it momre difficult to inhale, I presume due to muscaler/diaphragm issues (guessing on this) But the lungs are still elastic from what I understand.

I couldn't wear the mouth CPAP because of my beard. So the VA gave me one that fits tightly in (Not around) my nostrils. They are literally hollow plugs to which the compressor hooks to. I have to wear a rubber band to keep my jaw closed or the positive pressure would simpply escape through my mouth and not inflate my lungs. Just to satisfy scientific curiosity, I tried to fight it. I couldn't. Air escaped through the plug in my nostrils, making an amusing fart sound, btw.

#47 | Posted by goatman at 2020-03-25 08:43 PM | Reply

Speaking of Eleanor, did you know that Paul Simon's song Mrs. Robinson was originally Mrs Roosevelt, but he changed it for "The Graduate". I just learned this a few weeks ago listening to an old Paul Simon interview with David Susskind, I think it was.

#48 | Posted by goatman at 2020-03-25 08:47 PM | Reply

www.cnbc.com

Tax the rich or maybe just ask them for help.

One million millionaires

#49 | Posted by Petrous at 2020-03-25 08:52 PM | Reply

#48 I agree but you're talking about one scrubber vs. needing hundreds of thousands of ventilators.

That being said, I'm pretty sure a wet-dry reversible Shop-Vac has most of what's needed...

This isn't even MacGyver level stuff.
That moron from Tool Time ought to be sufficient.

#50 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-25 08:57 PM | Reply

So, the city with a million millionaires can't outbid the makers? Maybe offer some money for anyone to make them. Heck, buy em from other states.

Richest freaking city cant even buy any?

#51 | Posted by Petrous at 2020-03-25 08:58 PM | Reply

Goat on the N95's I have also heard if you leave it for 9 days you can reuse it because that's long enough for the virus to die, but as with any medical advice on the internet best to check it yourself.

I have 5 N95 surgical masks which I don't use because I don't know how to tie it on correctly. I am going to donate 4 to the hospital and keep one for an absolute emergency. Ironically a nurse gave them to me in December when I worked on her fireplace because she was worried about how much dust and soot I had to breath in while working on a fireplace. I wish I remembered which customer it was I would give them back to her rather than donate if I did.

#52 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2020-03-25 09:17 PM | Reply

"I agree but you're talking about one scrubber vs. needing hundreds of thousands of ventilators."

True, but once the technique is there, mass production should be easy -- even if by hand. There are a lot of people sitting at home who would love to be working.

Think Rosie the Riveter. Except for old people like us who actually know who she was, most people don't understand the power of a country like the US if we put our mind to it. The ones who don't remember will have to be taught and it will be a lesson they may draw on 50 years later.

#53 | Posted by goatman at 2020-03-25 09:21 PM | Reply

* "The song was originally titled Mrs. Roosevelt and had absolutely nothing to do with the plot of the movie. It was a tribute to Eleanor Roosevelt and it described another more innocent era."

www.thevintagenews.com

Lest anyone get the wrong impression.

#54 | Posted by Corky at 2020-03-25 09:45 PM | Reply

I've got four N95 masks. Two of them we used on the flight home. I might spray them with the weak bleach solution my wife made and added essential oils for odor. She's been using it on countertops, door knobs, sinks, etc..

#55 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2020-03-25 09:46 PM | Reply

"Think Rosie the Riveter."

Think about time.
The US ramped up WWII production over years.
Europe was at war for two years before we got our hands dirty.
The virus started wreaking having here in two weeks, not years.

We have weeks, not years.

#56 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-25 10:08 PM | Reply

There's a lot CPAPs out there. Better than nothing.

ideas.4brad.com

#57 | Posted by visitor_ at 2020-03-25 10:11 PM | Reply

""Think Rosie the Riveter."
Think about time.
The US ramped up WWII production over years.
Europe was at war for two years before we got our hands dirty.
The virus started wreaking having here in two weeks, not years.
We have weeks, not years.

#56 | POSTED BY SNOOFY "

So are you saying the we can't come together to conquer this because of time?

#58 | Posted by goatman at 2020-03-25 10:18 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

- because of time?

With his most important work being done mostly here, Snoofy has little free time.

#59 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2020-03-26 01:17 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

So are you saying the we can't come together to conquer this because of time?

#58 | POSTED BY GOATMAN

Time AND space.

There is not enough time to bring deplorables back to reality. And not enough space for Trumpy's lies.

I Hope your cpap can save you from Trumpy's lies. Maybe put some of that positive pressure in your ears.

#60 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-03-26 10:44 AM | Reply

#60

So you are saying we need a TARDIS?

#61 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2020-03-26 02:34 PM | Reply

BTW since the thread is about NY anyone heard from Hagbard?

#62 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2020-03-26 02:47 PM | Reply

anyone heard from Hagbard?

He gave me a NW flag yesterday, though to be fair many would proudly do so as their last act on this earth.

#63 | Posted by JOE at 2020-03-26 02:55 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"So are you saying the we can't come together to conquer this because of time?"

Yes.

Another reason we can't come together is people like you, and Trump, who say we should't put the whole country on lockdown, and we shouldn't be suing Federal power to conquer this.
Having the coastal states on lockdown while the heartland is Business As Usual is the opposite of coming together to conquer this.
Having the Federal government take a back seat is the opposite of coming together to conquer this.

It's splitting us up to conquer this.

#64 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-26 03:46 PM | Reply

Conquer what? The Beer Flu?
Relax. Don't fall for the dem hoax.

#65 | Posted by bored at 2020-03-26 04:00 PM | Reply

I am sure this helped

Despite coronavirus fears, annual Chinatown Lunar New Year Parade to go on as planned
abc7ny.com

Commissioner Oxiris Barbot
@NYCHealthCommr
Today our city is celebrating the #LunarNewYear parade in Chinatown, a beautiful cultural tradition with a rich history in our city. I want to remind everyone to enjoy the parade and not change any plans due to misinformation spreading about #coronavirus.
twitter.com

#66 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2020-03-26 04:18 PM | Reply

#68 first response to that Tweet:

@NYCHealthCommr
This happened in 1918 too. It was called the "Death Parade"
daily.jstor.org

#67 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-26 04:21 PM | Reply

"The parade is scheduled for Feb. 9 at 1 p.m."

Yeah, that's just not relevant. At all. What was your intention posting that?

#68 | Posted by YAV at 2020-03-26 06:19 PM | Reply

There still was no coronavirus in NY in February. The first case was March 1st. Dumbass.

nypost.com

#69 | Posted by YAV at 2020-03-26 06:22 PM | Reply

What was your intention posting that?

God blessing donald.

#70 | Posted by REDIAL at 2020-03-26 06:50 PM | Reply

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