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Wednesday, March 25, 2020

Many of the largest [COVID-19] outbreaks have been in regions where the weather is cooler, leading to speculation that the disease might begin to tail off with the arrival of summer. Many experts, however, have already cautioned against banking too much on the virus dying down over the summer.

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#1 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2020-03-25 12:36 PM | Reply

@#1

That is a pretty good summary of the article, though perhaps a bit too terse.

We do know some, but not enough.

The coronavirus is so new, that we do not yet know what and how much of prior virus infections we can apply to coronovirus.

I've been watching countries south of the equator to see what is happening there.

#2 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-03-25 12:49 PM | Reply

#2 Australia has it. But really, Saudi Arabia, Kenya, Ethiopia and Iran say no to weather impact, unless it's only warm weather and not apocalypse-level super-hot that stops it.

#3 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2020-03-25 01:24 PM | Reply

#3

If it lasts here in a Phoenix summer, we're all doomed.

#4 | Posted by willowby at 2020-03-25 08:25 PM | Reply

Its hot temperatures with high humidity. E.g., not Pheonix.

#5 | Posted by horstngraben at 2020-03-25 10:37 PM | Reply

Yea global warming!

#6 | Posted by goatman at 2020-03-25 10:39 PM | Reply

Yea global warming!
#6 | Posted by goatman

Seasonal warming, not global warming.

#7 | Posted by horstngraben at 2020-03-25 10:40 PM | Reply

@#4 ... If it lasts here in a Phoenix summer ...

There are a few levels of "lasts" to think about.

1- the heat kills it off completely. Once summer hits, the virus dies for good.

2- the heat makes the virus less virulent. When winter returns, so does the contagion.

3- the heat has little to no effect on the virus.

My opinion at this point is that #2 may be the best we can expect, with #3 possible.

Today, Dr Fauci mentioned that he is seeing a "seasonal" aspect to the virus, that it may be a seasonal affliction, like the flu.

#8 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-03-25 10:43 PM | Reply

"Seasonal warming, not global warming.

#7 | POSTED BY HORSTNGRABEN "

I understand that. But if the proggies are to be believed the fewer snows, hotter summers, more intense hurricanes the last several years are because of global warming. So if this summer is hotter than 40 years (or one year ago) ago because of global warming, I say, "Yea global warming"

#9 | Posted by goatman at 2020-03-25 10:44 PM | Reply

@#8

Will coronavirus be a seasonal illness? Here's what top health expert Fauci says
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...Americans need to prepare for the possibility of COVID-19 coming back as a seasonal illness, Dr. Anthony Fauci said during a White House press briefing on Wednesday.

Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases and a member of the White House Coronavirus Task Force, said there have been cases in Africa and the Southern Hemisphere, which is approaching colder seasons.

"If they have a substantial outbreak, it will be inevitable that we'll get a cycle around the second time," he said.

Studies have shown humid, warm weather could slow the pandemic, according to The Washington Post. They point to the virus possibly slowing during summer and coming back in the fall. ...


#10 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-03-25 10:45 PM | Reply

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There will be a second greater level of infection outbreak.

#11 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2020-03-25 10:50 PM | Reply

I think you are right there will be at least one, and probably more, waves, but each shoulld be less severe since more people will have developed an immunity, or a vaccine becomes available.

#12 | Posted by goatman at 2020-03-25 10:54 PM | Reply

@#11

The other aspect that needs to be figured out is...

Are the antibodies that the body creates for the virus this year stable enough to last until next year? Or will those who get the virus this year not be immune to re-infection were the virus to return next year?


#13 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-03-25 10:57 PM | Reply

I understand that. But if the proggies are to be believed the fewer snows, hotter summers, more intense hurricanes the last several years are because of global warming. So if this summer is hotter than 40 years (or one year ago) ago because of global warming, I say, "Yea global warming"
#9 | Posted by goatman

I put the measurements of fewer snows and hotter summers in the context of agriculture in respect to increased uncertainty in production. Lower crop production and more (costly) inputs. Fewer snows and hotter summers are a mother effer. Call me a proggie if you like.

#14 | Posted by horstngraben at 2020-03-25 11:01 PM | Reply

It would indeed be ironic if Covid-19 somehow were a byproduct of MMGW. Mother Nature fighting back. Actions have consequences even when we are unable to perceive the link.

#15 | Posted by moder8 at 2020-03-25 11:26 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

For all the BS here on this subject --- only time will tell.

#16 | Posted by MSgt at 2020-03-25 11:41 PM | Reply

"Its hot temperatures with high humidity. E.g., not Pheonix."

Then it wouldn't be still occurring here in S. Florida. If it continues here then the idiotic theory that warm weather will end it is totally disproven. That was a stupid statement by a stupid man....Donald Trump.....hot weather just makes life more difficult for first responders, etc. I'm no biologist but warm moist air is probably an incubator for disease.

#17 | Posted by danni at 2020-03-26 08:01 AM | Reply

2- the heat makes the virus less virulent. When winter returns, so does the contagion.

3- the heat has little to no effect on the virus.

My opinion at this point is that #2 may be the best we can expect, with #3 possible.

Today, Dr Fauci mentioned that he is seeing a "seasonal" aspect to the virus, that it may be a seasonal affliction, like the flu.

#8 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER AT 2020-03-25 10:43 PM | FLAG:

At least #2 would buy us time with medical advances over the summer.

#18 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2020-03-26 09:03 AM | Reply

I'm no biologist but warm moist air is probably an incubator for disease.

#17 | POSTED BY DANNI

Then why are you commenting so confidently?

Case rates are significantly less in tropical countries.

Are they testing at the same rate? Not sure, that's the primary question. But case rates in the tropics are less.

And seasonal influenza decreases in the summer because a. people aren't in close proximity so much b. wamer, humid temps are less favorable for the virus in the environment.

#19 | Posted by jpw at 2020-03-26 10:35 AM | Reply

I think you are right there will be at least one, and probably more, waves, but each shoulld be less severe since more people will have developed an immunity, or a vaccine becomes available.

#12 | POSTED BY GOATMAN

Both 1918 H1N1 and 2009 H1N1 started around the same time as SARS-CoV-2 and were worse the following autumn.

A successful vaccine helped stop H1N1 2009 after that autumn/winter peak, but there isn't a chance of getting a SARS-CoV-2 vaccine rolled out that fast.

#20 | Posted by jpw at 2020-03-26 10:37 AM | Reply

#3 | Posted by HeliumRat

Just now starting to see average highs in the low 80s in a lot of those places. Some are not even in the 80s yet.

#21 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2020-03-26 10:44 AM | Reply

No ...
There will be a second greater level of infection outbreak.

#11 | POSTED BY ANDREAMACKRIS

You mean Trump's not going to single handedly punch the virus in the face saving all of humanity?

#22 | Posted by CrisisStills at 2020-03-27 05:32 AM | Reply

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