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Wednesday, March 25, 2020

The intuitive idea that objects influence each other because they're in physical proximity is soon to become another of those beliefs that turn out to be wrong when we look deeper.

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The details are unimportant, especially at this early stage. But the takeaway lesson is that the intuitive idea that objects influence each other because they are close in space is soon to become another of those easy beliefs that turn out to be wrong when we look deeper. The smoothness of space is soon to become an illusion that hides a tiny and complex world of causal interactions, which do not live in space"but which rather define and create space as they create the future from the present.

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I still don't buy that non-locality can be arbitrarily faster than light.

#1 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2020-03-25 10:26 PM | Reply

I'm interested if these phenomena that are faster than light are truly instantaneous, or are they just so fast that it's well beyond our capacity to measure.

In other words, is there a warp 2, warp 3, etc. Or is there just all the speeds up to light speed, but the only thing faster is infinite speed.

#2 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-25 10:46 PM | Reply

#2 We should be seeing Cherenkov radiation but we aren't.

#3 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2020-03-25 10:53 PM | Reply

"#2 We should be seeing Cherenkov radiation but we aren't.

#3 | POSTED BY HELIUMRAT "

Cherenkov radiation is produced when light is forced to slow down due to its medium. It is not from FTL or "warp".

#4 | Posted by goatman at 2020-03-25 10:58 PM | Reply

OK. I loved that article.

Our experience and the laws of newtonian and relativistic physics are the results of averages of inconceivable numbers of events.
"To get a sense of how much is involved in this average, we expect that during each second there are around 1e120 elementary events happening within each cubic centimeter of space."

What this seems to mean is that there is no warp 2, warp 3 - there is no distance for entailed pairs. There is no speed that can be measured between a change on one side of the pair and the change observed in the second. it is instant because there is no locality/proximity (no distance) between them. The distance we perceive is an average of events defining our experience (and previously known laws).

While we watch the quantum event we call entanglement from our reference of experience of averages, the two particles have no such reference, nor is their interaction bound by such.

At least that's what I get out of this.

#5 | Posted by YAV at 2020-03-25 11:12 PM | Reply

#5 Look deeper.

No wait that's too deep. AAARRRGGGHHH....

#6 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2020-03-25 11:31 PM | Reply

snoofy, Goatman, this is is for you: www.youtube.com

"Any reaction would have been better than no reaction at all".

You may NW me later.

#7 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2020-03-26 12:28 AM | Reply

You need to see 'Avenue 5' on HBO Go. It an absurd comedy that takes place on a busted spaceship with dead bodies and ---- orbiting it.

pretty funny.

#8 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2020-03-26 12:37 AM | Reply

So for every particle, it there some entangled partner someplace, and it's just a matter of finding the pairs?

Because creating entangled pairs in the lab isn't easy; they often come out decoupled.

#9 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-26 12:47 AM | Reply

pretty funny.
#8 | POSTED BY SHEEPLESCHISM

Seconded.

#10 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-03-26 12:50 AM | Reply

Or is there just all the speeds up to light speed, but the only thing faster is infinite speed.

"You will begin to touch heaven, Jonathan, in the moment that you touch perfect speed. And that isn't flying a thousand miles an hour, or a million, or flying at the speed of light. Because any number is a limit, and perfection doesn't have limits. Perfect speed, my son, is being there." - Richard Bach, Jonathan Livingston Seagull

#11 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2020-03-26 10:05 AM | Reply

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