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Friday, March 27, 2020

General Motors Co. and ventilator maker Ventec Life Systems Inc. had much of what they needed in place to ramp up production of breathing machines that would help coronavirus patients survive and recover.

They were just waiting on the Trump administration to place orders and cut checks.

And then, just as frustration was mounting within the largest U.S. carmaker and its partner over the federal government finalizing the details, President Donald Trump went on the attack Friday. He accused the company of moving too slowly and charging too much, specifically criticizing Chief Executive Officer Mary Barra....

The Twitter missives are a remarkable turnabout from the night before, when Trump told Fox News he wasn't invoking the Cold War-era Defense Production Act to compel manufacturers to make ventilators because companies including GM had already stepped up.

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...GM was growing exasperated with the Trump administration because after more than a week of around-the-clock work, the carmaker and Ventec had turned an auto-parts plant in Kokomo, Indiana, into a near-ready ventilator-assembly facility. Suppliers are secured for the 700 components needed to make the machines.

The automaker has even started hiring because the 300 workers on staff won't be enough to handle the proposed volume, a person familiar with the situation said.

The holdup now is that the federal government hasn't decided how many machines it will need, how many producers it will hire and, by extension, how much it will have to pay Ventec.

Originally, the two manufacturers were talking about $250 million that would go to the Seattle-based company and its components suppliers to get production moving, said people familiar with the matter, who asked not to be identified because the project hasn't been finalized....


#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-03-27 01:01 PM | Reply

Trump thinks he can blame corona on the Chinese and dems, so the more deaths the better for his reelection, and according to the DoJ, Trump is allowed to kill people if it helps his reelection.

#2 | Posted by bored at 2020-03-27 01:36 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#2 | POSTED BY BORED

Stop spreading your disinformation.

#3 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2020-03-27 01:39 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

@#2 ... so the more deaths the better for his reelection ...

I think Pres Trump is focused more on the state of the stock market (as an indirect indicator of the economy) for an indication of his re-election chances.

Pres Trump seems to be more concerned about packing churches on Easter Sunday than he is about helping Americans get well.

To wit:

www.vox.com

... During the White House coronavirus news conference on March 24, CBS reporter Paula Reid asked Trump to respond to the fact that experts "on both sides of the aisle have said that reopening the country by Easter is not a good idea." Indeed, public health experts broadly agree that Trump's Easter timeline is premature, given that the coronavirus outbreak is nowhere near under control in America and relaxing social distancing at this stage could make things even worse.

Trump, however, is undeterred. Instead of addressing the substance of Reid's question, he went on the attack against her and suggested experts who think his timeline is a bad idea are motivated by politics.

"I think there are certain people that would like it to not open so quickly, I think there are certain people that would like it to do financially poorly, because they think that would be very good as far as defeating me at the polls," Trump said. ...




#4 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-03-27 01:54 PM | Reply

Dumbass Trump is fine with people dying.

He just said "I don't believe you need 40K or 30K ventilators. You go to a hospital and they have one or two."

We need more now, and we're going to need a LOT more than 30-40k. This man is out of his frikken mind.

#5 | Posted by YAV at 2020-03-27 02:03 PM | Reply

@#5 ... He just said "I don't believe you need 40K or 30K ventilators. You go to a hospital and they have one or two." ...

I have often asked if Pres Trump actually believes the lies and misinformation he propagates.

Now that "people dying" is the result of his misinformation and lying, I can only conclude that he actually believes what he says or that he cares little about people dying.

#6 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-03-27 02:24 PM | Reply

#6 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER

I just wish his supporters would finally own up to the fact that this isn't some Democratic political stunt as Trump was hoping to convince his supporters it was.

So people like SNIPER need to stop considering as such and call Trump out for the lackluster of a leader he truly is.
Couple that with Trump calling Cuomo and New York emergency personnel liars when they ask for 40,000 ventilators. Who the ---- does he think he is? America is not some small business where every decision and action must be first cognizant of the bottom line. And your talking about a guy that spends money quite extravagantly, both in his personal life and of the tax payer's dollars while POTUS, yet he can't come to the conclusion that spending the money to provide 40,000 ventilators to New York during the most significant crisis in a century would be a good idea?

Not only that, but he thinks it's another hoax? Someone is trying to get one over on him?

According to MACKRIS, he was HEAVILY duped by the Chinese back in January, believing that they were diligently getting ahead of the virus spread. So maybe he's hyper paranoid even of those who look like him; you know, white, male and rich.

#7 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-03-27 02:31 PM | Reply

We need more now, and we're going to need a LOT more than 30-40k. This man is out of his frikken mind.
#5 | POSTED BY YAV

Heard a doctor explain that if this does follow the pattern involved with the Spanish flu, we can expect a high amount of deaths in the spring, with a leveling off and eventual dip in the summer, with a strong resurgence in the fall.

About a million people died of Spanish flu in the Spring, dropped significantly in the summer, but it then came back with a vengeance in the fall, killing ten times that died in the spring.

Point here being is, Trump has ZERO concept of preparation. He might be right, New York does not currently need 40,000 ventilators, but the actual need may not be far off from that number. However, it wouldn't be prudent of New York to start stockpiling ventilators for the inevitable second wave coming, which could very well be far worse than the first. Better to prepare for the worst and hope for the best, IMO.

Lastly, it does make me wonder, once Florida finally acknowledges the hell it's about to face, will they be afforded all the ventilators they request? I'm guessing that yes, Florida will be given anything they want by this administration while New Yorkers will experience what it feels like to swim up river in peanut butter.

#8 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-03-27 02:37 PM | Reply

*would be prudent of New York...

#9 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-03-27 02:38 PM | Reply

Trump is far too stupid, self involved,and venial, to be anywhere outside of General population,at a state or federal penitentiary.

#10 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2020-03-27 03:07 PM | Reply

Trump Tells GM to Make Ventilators Under Defense Production Law
www.bloomberg.com

...The HHS secretary "shall use any and all authority available under the Act to require General Motors Company to accept, perform, and prioritize contracts or orders for the number of ventilators that the Secretary determines to be appropriate," President Trump said in an order....

#11 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-03-27 04:11 PM | Reply

Womp womp.

#12 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-27 04:12 PM | Reply

Womp womp.

#13 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-27 04:12 PM | Reply

Oops oops.

#14 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-27 04:12 PM | Reply

As a follow up to my #8:

COVID19 appears to have a low mutation rate (8.68*10-4 substitutions/site/year in a genome size of ~30k) [source for mutation rate: www.biorxiv.org]. So this means the virus mutates on an average of ~1 nucleotide/week (multiply substitution rate by genome size and divide by 52 weeks in a year). There is an average of 4-10 nucleotide dissimilarity when comparing viral genomes from Wuhan, China to NYC. Based on this, for COVID19 to mutate sufficiently to change mutagenicity of major surface proteins is exceedingly unlikely in the time frame of a few years.

This means that developing a vaccine is technically feasible with our currently technology (the methodology to rapidly develop a vaccination entails making mRNA vaccine). This does not preclude a "second wave" occurring from infection of people not previously infected and who are currently in areas that have not been hard hit yet by the virus before herd immunity is reached either by recovery from infection or sufficient vaccination.

Edit: Should also add, based on the mutation rate, it's unlikely for someone previously infected to become re-infected with the COVID19 again within the timeframe of a few years. Serology (blood antibody) tests are being developed to identify patients who have been infected and recovered to the point we can definitely say they are immune.

Take the information for what it is and tell me it's not convincing in spite of the source.

#15 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-03-27 04:44 PM | Reply

IOW, good news and looking like we won't be experiencing a timeline similar to Spanish flu as I had feared.

#16 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-03-27 04:45 PM | Reply

"Based on this, for COVID19 to mutate sufficiently to change mutagenicity of major surface proteins is exceedingly unlikely in the time frame of a few years"

^
Molecular evolution remains the strongest evidence for evolution, and probably always will be, since that's where the rubber meets the road.

#17 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-27 05:01 PM | Reply

What's wrong with GM? Obama bailed them out and handpicked their executives. Now they're playing games. Ford didn't need a bailout or prodding to help out. GM needs die as a corporation.

#18 | Posted by visitor_ at 2020-03-28 12:28 PM | Reply

Ford debt downgraded to junk status www.barrons.com

Maybe not the best time to use them as an example?

#19 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2020-03-28 12:37 PM | Reply

They're an example of a corporation that didn't need to be coerced into producing ventilators.

#20 | Posted by visitor_ at 2020-03-28 12:40 PM | Reply

Looks like Obama's handpicked CEO was trying be a virus profiteer.

#21 | Posted by visitor_ at 2020-03-28 12:42 PM | Reply

As long as it kills off a large number is Trumps base, then cool.
Those people are too stupid to live anyhow.

#22 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2020-03-28 08:42 PM | Reply

^^ Glee spotting.

#23 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2020-03-28 08:55 PM | Reply

Looks like Visitor_ is an idiot. Not that that is news.

#24 | Posted by REDIAL at 2020-03-28 09:10 PM | Reply

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